Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
not a bad thought.
ATL has Rams/SF/CAR
CIN has CLE/PIT/HOU
Both still have their byes though.
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**Streaming Defense** Weeks 14-16 FF Playoffs (1 Viewer)
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ATL has Rams/SF/CAR
CIN has CLE/PIT/HOU
Both still have their byes though.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
With a big bye week (first week with 6 teams), some Ds dropped to the wire, including BUF and LA.
BUF seems like a no-brainer grab, but noticed some back and forth here about them in terms of whether they are truly holds or streamers.
Any thoughts on these two going forward, as either holds or streamers? BUF has a WK 10 bye so not sure if that makes them less of longer term hold or not.
Rams' schedule not too terrible after their bye this week:
CAR @NYJ MIA @NO @NE ATL @SEA SF AR
BUF schedule after their bye looks fairly favorable:
JAX
@OAK
PIT
CLE
MIA
@NYJ
BUF seems like a no-brainer grab, but noticed some back and forth here about them in terms of whether they are truly holds or streamers.
Any thoughts on these two going forward, as either holds or streamers? BUF has a WK 10 bye so not sure if that makes them less of longer term hold or not.
Rams' schedule not too terrible after their bye this week:
CAR @NYJ MIA @NO @NE ATL @SEA SF AR
BUF schedule after their bye looks fairly favorable:
JAX
@OAK
PIT
CLE
MIA
@NYJ
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Same boat. I was going to target NYJ pretty aggressively but opted for DAL instead. Wentz is finally starting to look like a rookie and DAL will be well rested and playing at home.
TZMarkie
Footballguy
I had Buffalo in several of my leagues, my two biggest in fact.
I just flat dropped them this week. I really have no concern if they get snagged, since their immediate schedule is bad plus the bye in week 10.
Also, I have brutal byes that week, so I knew weeks ago I was going to have to start preparing for that.
If I can I will try and snag them during their bye week, then play them rest-of-season.
I would like to get them back, but it won't be a disaster if I cant pick them back up, at least in my case....I think they are at the lower end of "must start".
I don't really keep defenses unless they are blockbuster plays week in and week out.
TZM
Insein
Footballguy
Playing them. Schwartz changed up his scheme slightly last week and came with some blitz's to disrupt Bradford.
This week I expect the same but to stop Zeke in the run game. They'll go all out to stop the run and bottle up Witten. It'll be similar to the Pitt game in that Dez might get 100+ yds on 10 catches but minimize the damage overall.
It's a divisional game that usually has both teams going back and forth. Expect a 27-24 kind of game. It all depends on whether a defensive or ST TD is mixed in.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah, liked the 2 week matchup and (correctly) figured all the other streaming teams would target the Jets.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Leaning towards San Diego over NYJ and Dallas. Here's my reasoning...
Sd next 3 games broncos, titans, dolphins.
Not sure Cleveland is a great matchup with mccown starting. Of course if Hogan starts they are the best play.
Sd had the most points so far. The other two teams are near the bottom.
Joey Bosa is a beast.
Sd next 3 games broncos, titans, dolphins.
Not sure Cleveland is a great matchup with mccown starting. Of course if Hogan starts they are the best play.
Sd had the most points so far. The other two teams are near the bottom.
Joey Bosa is a beast.
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Yenrub
Footballguy
I just read that the Titans are going to be without 2 starters in the secondary Perrish Cox & Rashad Johnson.
I don't know much about either player so I don't know what type of an effect their absence will have on the defense
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Thanks for the insight, TZM -- very helpful. Wonder if the return of Shaq Lawson helps the Bills D out that much more or not going forward.
Torn between TN and Dallas.
I have Seattle but just can't bring myself to start them @NO. Don't see a ton of upside there since Brees is out of his mind at home.
TN seems like the easy choice, but Bortles has a good history against the TN secondary -- 5 TDs last year in Nashville -- and TN is missing a CB. Thursday night game usually = low score, but with two screwey teams like this, who knows.
The Dallas/PHI game seems like a defensive battle, but I could see each team playing it very conservatively on offense. Low score, but minimal turnovers.
I have Seattle but just can't bring myself to start them @NO. Don't see a ton of upside there since Brees is out of his mind at home.
TN seems like the easy choice, but Bortles has a good history against the TN secondary -- 5 TDs last year in Nashville -- and TN is missing a CB. Thursday night game usually = low score, but with two screwey teams like this, who knows.
The Dallas/PHI game seems like a defensive battle, but I could see each team playing it very conservatively on offense. Low score, but minimal turnovers.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
no love for an underrated Chicago D @ home vs an awful Minny Offence?
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Any thoughts on Carolina? They just don't look the same in the secondary this year, but they are out there on the wire.
David Johnson is a beast. He was barely contained by Seattle. I can't imagine what he'll do against CAR.
Johnson's dominance should give Palmer enough play action opportunities to score points.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Agreed here. I'm just having a hard time getting behind dallas which is my other option and choice. Other than the Green Bay they haven't pushed the needle on defense. And even that game, their turnovers were somewhat Green Bay's fault rather than great play. (Maybe that's just the Rodgers owner in me talking) They seem like a solid NFL defense, but a poor mans fantasy defense.
Insein
Footballguy
I can't even tell if they're a solid NFL defense. This is a lot like the 2014 season where Murray had 400+ carries. The Dallas defense was on the field the least amount of time as compared to every other defense by about 8-10 plays a game. It's because the OL and RB mauled people and controlled the clock.
This year they're again in the bottom 10 of defensive plays per game (8th lowest plays on defense). So their defense hasn't really been tested.
wlwiles
Footballguy
I had picked them up on Tuesday and was thinking this exact thing. Then someone dropped the Jets, so I scooped them instead. Jets next three weeks: CLE, MIA, LA, then the bye. Figured I could ride them for the next couple and not have to worry about streaming.
Kind of an AC question here, but since both of these Ds are streamers this week, the hell with it...
...how would you rank TN vs. Dallas D? Both seem like solid options this week.
Dallas seems like the safer play.
TN possibly with more upside in a sloppy game, but on the flip side Bortles could wake up vs. a banged up/horrible secondary.
...how would you rank TN vs. Dallas D? Both seem like solid options this week.
Dallas seems like the safer play.
TN possibly with more upside in a sloppy game, but on the flip side Bortles could wake up vs. a banged up/horrible secondary.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Both are comparatively solid plays, and actually would lean more to TEN -- think they can generate a little more sack pressure and be disruptive against a badly slumping JAX team, especially on home field.
I like DAL this week at home after the bye, but I think PHI poses more of a threat than JAX.
Braktastic
Footballguy
I'm a bit nervous about Josh McCown's return.
I'm wildly over-exposed on the Jets defense this week. I've got them in 3/4 of my leagues.
gethugefast1
Footballguy
ha, i had opportunity to pick up TEN or DAL, i decided DAL because of them coming off bye and being home. well rested and a home crowd for a 5-1 team against NFCE rivalry... yea, i like their chances
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
FWIW -- I'm running DAL out there as well this weekend.ha, i had opportunity to pick up TEN or DAL, i decided DAL because of them coming off bye and being home. well rested and a home crowd for a 5-1 team against NFCE rivalry... yea, i like their chances
Dallas is oddly ranked very very low by pretty much all the "experts."
Fantasy pros has them at 14.
On the flip side, Dodds and Tremblay have Dalls ranked 4th and 3rd respectively.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Got TEN in just now but might drop out at last minute and decide between DAL and CHI. Like both of them this week. Bears D hasn't given up a ton of points most weeks.
boilerdave
Footballguy
I picked up the Browns (have the Ravens on bye).Chaka said:
shadyridr
Footballguy
Everyone has SD defense ranked low too even though they are a top ten defense and face a poor Denver offense. I don't get it.
Jimbo Slice
Footballguy
Sucks Tennessee dominated the game but the D had nothing to show for it fantasy wise
scott46984
Footballguy
Cincy or Phil available both available in my league. Philly has been good scoring D but don't like the matchup vs Dallas much which is probably why they are out there. Cincy doesn't seem to score much (vs Wash this week). Anybody else considering similar and thoughts?
wlwiles
Footballguy
If Philly is available I'd pick them up and start them every week. That defensive front is going to generate a ton of sacks and pressures, forcing turnovers. Plus they've got dangerous returners, so a better than average chance at a return TD. Even against Dallas' O line I'd roll them out there
irish eyes
Footballguy
I KNEW I shouldn't have streamed the sh@@@y Tenn def last night. 2 damn sacks against most sacked qb & ZERO picks against the human turnover machine. I hope titans don't won another game. Oh yeah and they get shredded in 2nd half... @@@@ you tenn
JFS171
Footballguy
I've wondered this too - and while I haven't checked the stats, Joey Bosa is a monster and seems to be really helping their front. The problem is in the secondary -- they lost Verrett to a torn ACL and Flowers hasn't played since week 3, though it sounds like he'll return this week. That should help quite a bit.
Denver's offense doesn't scare me - I think the Chargers will actually be pretty solid here. For me it's between them, Dallas, and Buffalo. I want to hold Buffalo, but I don't like starting anyone against the Patriots, then Seattle, then a bye...
JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo
Footballguy
Did they get shredded or were they just playing prevent? It does suck to get a crappy 4 points from such a juicy match-up
Chargers might be my target moving forward to use alongside Tennessee, since I missed out on Dallas.
TartanLion
Footballguy
dropped BUF this week. Was primed to go with TEN but then pulled out last minute.
Right now I've got CHI in over SD and DAL but they all seem like a bit of a toss up tbh
Right now I've got CHI in over SD and DAL but they all seem like a bit of a toss up tbh
Captain Hook
Footballguy
you mean besides the two sacks and the FR?
really frustrating to have played them and watch them dominate in the first half just to give up a ####load of yards and points in the second half and "lose those points"
Currently have Tampa Bay. Would you use any of the teams below instead:
Det
SD
Cin
Chi
Cle
Det
SD
Cin
Chi
Cle
From the Rent-a-Defense column: "The Buccaneers had four sacks and three takeaways last week, and four takeaways the week before. They are hot since the offense committed to the run, and the defensive line should be healthier. A home team with momentum is always a solid rent-a-defense play."
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Rodrigo Duterte
Footballguy
That's not what Bloom is saying. Nor are the results of the last 3 out of 4 weeks. But maybe you know something different.
Rodrigo Duterte
Footballguy
No offense buddy but holy cow were you wrong on all accounts. The Giants defense had a field day. The Rams did not in fact have an even decent offense, as I tried to point out prior (finished with 10 points). The other post mentioned you would definitely take the Rams but I think that was an IF you were betting, right? Hope so. Anyway, we all have those days.
What are you thinking this week? It's ugly out there.
Because I value the opinions here. So which one team of the following is the best choice:
Det
SD
Cin
Chi
Cle
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I was shocked to see Dallas so low in most places. To me it was a no-brainer. Safe floor as Dallas plays ball control and keeps games low scoring which is also what Philly wants to do. Add in rookie QB playing a road game and the possibility for some turnovers is high.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
Yeah those 3 games were vs the dregs of the nfl in la, sf, and Anderson led Panthers. So I guess vs the dregs they are playable. This week they play vs Oakland who is dead last in points allowed to opposing defenses.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
really not a good one in the bunch - highest rated and most likely IMO for special team score would be Bengals but o/u for that game is 49 (still less than TB/Oak). I might go against the grain and take DET on the road in the hopes that Osweiler is terrible again and Miller is limited.
GL
Weebs210
Footballguy
