Stuck with the 10th or 12th pick ? (1 Viewer)

[EzCrash]

Now that my draft is over allow me to give hope to those owners who are stuck with the last picks of your rounds. I couldn't post this before for fear of owners in my league reading it here.

I am in a 10 team / 1-player keeper league. I won it all last year with RBs like Cory Dillon, Mike Anderson, Thomas Jones and Stephen Davis. Obviously none of these guys were worth keeping so I had no choice but to keep Torry Holt.

Now knowing that 6 of the top 10 backs are being franchised and the remainder will be drafted in the first 9 picks before me .... I decided that this year I would have to switch from my stud RB tendencies and load up on WR. Then, while people are picking their first 2 to 3 WRs in rounds 3 - 5, I would load up on overlooked RBs.

So .... here is how my team turned out. ( and no ... I am not looking for "rate my team" this is a thread for us poor owners looking at those tail end draft spots )

Torry Holt (Franchise)

Marvin Harrison (1st round pick / 10th overall )

Larry Fitzgerald (2nd round pick / 11th overall )

R. Wayne (3rd round )

Now .... those are 3 ( arguably 4 ... I REALLY like Wayne this year as well ) "stud" WRs and our league allows you to start up to 4 WRs and only 1 RB should you so desire.

So, now that I am set at WRs and everyone else has locked up all the "stud" backs I start going after RBs who people think are "done" or simply overlooked or stuck in the dreaded RBBC.

I take:

Ahaman Green in the 4th ( I REALLY wanted to get him here and it worked out - Green is not "done" yet )

Took Carson Palmer here in the 5th ... I just couldn't resist and I think ( re. HOPE ) the knee is fine / 4pts per TD pass so QBs not quite as coveted in our league

Thomas Jones in the 6th ( I had hoped to get Mike Bell here but he was gone and Jones will put up decent numbers or get traded )

Chris Brown in the 7th ( Yeah, he's Fragile Freddie II ... but he has a head case rookie running back behind him )

Tatum Bell in the 8th ( I don't think Tatum will ever be the featured back but we all know that he is a capable "home run" hitter who will get his 10 carries and a couple of receptions every game and will take one to the house every other game or so.

Cedric Benson in the 9th (insurance for Thomas Jones )

Now ... if just one or 2 of those RBs pan out for me I am pretty happy.

Other backs I had targeted were Cory Dillon, Frank Gore and Mike Bell but they went a few picks or even a full round before I was willing to take them.

The bottom line guys ...... if you are sitting at the tail end of this years draft and you know that everyone is going after all the RBs .... load up on the WRs ..... there are plenty of RBs that you can stock pile in the middle rounds while everyone is trying to get their first couple of WRs !!

Good luck to all and hopefully this strategy may help a few of you.

Ez

 

[cr8f]

Had 12th pick in january and took SJax and Rudi

3rd-Wayne

4th-Javon Walker

5th-Crumpler

6th-Eli

Bush in rookie draft.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Now that my draft is over allow me to give hope to those owners who are stuck with the last picks of your rounds. I couldn't post this before for fear of owners in my league reading it here.

I am in a 10 team / 1-player keeper league. I won it all last year with RBs like Cory Dillon, Mike Anderson, Thomas Jones and Stephen Davis. Obviously none of these guys were worth keeping so I had no choice but to keep Torry Holt.

Now knowing that 6 of the top 10 backs are being franchised and the remainder will be drafted in the first 9 picks before me .... I decided that this year I would have to switch from my stud RB tendencies and load up on WR. Then, while people are picking their first 2 to 3 WRs in rounds 3 - 5, I would load up on overlooked RBs.

So .... here is how my team turned out. ( and no ... I am not looking for "rate my team" this is a thread for us poor owners looking at those tail end draft spots )

Torry Holt (Franchise)

Marvin Harrison (1st round pick / 10th overall )

Larry Fitzgerald (2nd round pick / 11th overall )

R. Wayne (3rd round )

Now .... those are 3 ( arguably 4 ... I REALLY like Wayne this year as well ) "stud" WRs and our league allows you to start up to 4 WRs and only 1 RB should you so desire.

So, now that I am set at WRs and everyone else has locked up all the "stud" backs I start going after RBs who people think are "done" or simply overlooked or stuck in the dreaded RBBC.

I take:

Ahaman Green in the 4th ( I REALLY wanted to get him here and it worked out - Green is not "done" yet )

Took Carson Palmer here in the 5th ... I just couldn't resist and I think ( re. HOPE ) the knee is fine / 4pts per TD pass so QBs not quite as coveted in our league

Thomas Jones in the 6th ( I had hoped to get Mike Bell here but he was gone and Jones will put up decent numbers or get traded )

Chris Brown in the 7th ( Yeah, he's Fragile Freddie II ... but he has a head case rookie running back behind him )

Tatum Bell in the 8th ( I don't think Tatum will ever be the featured back but we all know that he is a capable "home run" hitter who will get his 10 carries and a couple of receptions every game and will take one to the house every other game or so.

Cedric Benson in the 9th (insurance for Thomas Jones )

Now ... if just one or 2 of those RBs pan out for me I am pretty happy.

Other backs I had targeted were Cory Dillon, Frank Gore and Mike Bell but they went a few picks or even a full round before I was willing to take them.

The bottom line guys ...... if you are sitting at the tail end of this years draft and you know that everyone is going after all the RBs .... load up on the WRs ..... there are plenty of RBs that you can stock pile in the middle rounds while everyone is trying to get their first couple of WRs !!

Good luck to all and hopefully this strategy may help a few of you.

Ez

I think it's a fine stategy, especially given that you only have to start one RB. My league is similar & I had some great years with guys like Charlie Garner, Tiki, Dunn falling into the 3rd, 4th, or 5th rounds while loading up on WRs early. A league like this allows you to draft against the grain without paying a steep penalty. I like leagues that let a winner be built in many different ways.

 

[Bushman9]

That is a very viable strategy this year because of the potential of many backs. The key is getting those mid rounders to perform in top 15, which is very possible.

I was fortunate picking 10. I got SJax 1.10. Then 11 & 12 both went WR/QB which left Edge at 2.03.

Again, being at the end of the draft this year is not the end of the world & different strategies will work.

 

[Charge]

Been tempted to try this strategy myself in the past. Only problem is, I'm in a 16 team league. Even at that, 3 of the top 6 or 7 WR's can probably be had. Is it worth having third down specialists as running backs tho? It probably can. This exact stategy has been tried probably 4 or 5 times in our league in the past. Produced one superbowl winner. Not bad odds in a 16 team league. Maybe sitting at 10 this year would be a good time to finally pull the trigger.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

I picked 12th in my leage this year. I went FWP, Portis, and then got TO and Thomas Jones . We start 3 Rbs, so you can imagine they go quick.

 

[EzCrash]

Hopefully this strategy will work for several people in 10 - 12 team leagues.

16 team league ?!?!? Ouch ! With so many teams it would seem that there is a HUGE advantage to the teams that have early picks and those at the very tail end start at a MAJOR disadvantage. You get 2 second / 3rd tier players and by the time you pick again your looking at the back up to the back up on most teams ! Well, maybe not that bad .... but still. Each to his own and all I can say is that winning a 16 team league must feel pretty damn good especially if your draft spot is at the tail end.

 

[Vintage_Football]

I think that thats a pretty good strategy, but don't you think that you would have been better off going after just ONE sure-fire RB and leaving off maybe Wayne or whoever you wanted and slipped in just a slightly lesser WR in one of your next RB spots,...thats the only thing that i think i would have changed.

 

[EzCrash]

I think that thats a pretty good strategy, but don't you think that you would have been better off going after just ONE sure-fire RB and leaving off maybe Wayne or whoever you wanted and slipped in just a slightly lesser WR in one of your next RB spots,...thats the only thing that i think i would have changed.

I may have done that but here are the RBs that were available when I took Reggie Wayne in our 3rd round:(Remember .... it is a 1 player keeper ... so at the point I took Wayne I had Holt (keeper), Harrison and Fitz )

Fred Taylor

Deshawn Foster

Ahman Green ( who I ended up getting the next round anyway because everyone was trying to fill their WR needs )

In our 4th round 6 WRs went, 2 RBs ( Fred Taylor and Foster ) and 1 TE

So, when I took Reggie I lost out on Fred Taylor or Deshawn Foster but still got Ahman in the next round.

Persoanlly ... I think Indy will rely more on Manning's arm this year with Edge gone ( that's going out on a limb there with that prediction eh ? ) and so I think .... hope Wayne is good for 1000+ / and 8 - 10 TDs.

I don't want to be the owner who looks like :X every time Jacksonville gets inside the 3 and Freddie gets pulled for whoever.

And personally, I sort of feel like thinking about having both of Manning's main targets this year.

 

[Vintage_Football]

Ok,..i see who was the RBs in the 3rd , but what WR's were available in the 4th....if there were anything like Houshmanzadah, or Lee Evans, or better then i would have took DeShaun Foster, and then took one of those guys in the 5th and then worried about your QB in the 6th since you only get 4pts for TD on your QB, then took DeAngelo Williams for insurance.

 

[EzCrash]

Ok,..i see who was the RBs in the 3rd , but what WR's were available in the 4th....if there were anything like Houshmanzadah, or Lee Evans, or better then i would have took DeShaun Foster, and then took one of those guys in the 5th and then worried about your QB in the 6th since you only get 4pts for TD on your QB, then took DeAngelo Williams for insurance.

Housh went before my pick in the next round but Lee Evans was there until the following round. Personally I feel that:Reggie Wayne + Ahamn Green > DeShaun Foster & Lee Evans or any other WR in that tier.But that's what makes the draft so interesting ... no one KNOWS for sure and I ended up with a combo of players that I like while if you were in the same boat .... you'd prefer the other combo.My point though .... having a late draft pick is not the end of the world this year. Well .... actually .... only time will tell if I am speaking the truth or my strategy makes me into a major goat !

 

[Vintage_Football]

Lets keep up with them, and compare Green + Wayne and Foster + Evans. my e-mail is Vintage_South@Yahoo.com keep me posted,..this could be a interesting little matchup.

 

[Amishboy]

I actually just did WR, WR in a draft today. I have always wanted to try it considering I am a Stud Rb guy normally.

I was in the 10th spot of a 10 team league. My picks.

1. C. Johnson WR

2. T. Holt WR

3. B. Westbrook RB

4. D. Driver (could have had Chambers -personal pref) WR

5. F. Gore RB

6. W. Lundy RB

7. D. Rhodes RB

8. M. Bell RB

9. M.Bulger QB

10. B. Watson TE

11. Carolina DEF

12. J. Kitna QB

13. A. Bryant WR

14. D. Branch WR

15. V. Morency RB

16. G. Jennings WR

17. Cinncinatti DEF

18. I. Bruce WR

19. M. Koenan K

20. J. Stevens TE

21. O. Mare K

As you can see it is possible to field a competitive team, but you have to have faith that one or two of the running backs that I took will pan out.

WEEK 1 STARTERS

QB - M. Bulger

RB - B. Westbrook

- Rhodes - Lundy - Gore

WR - C. Johnson

T. Holt

D. Driver

TE - B. Watson

K - M. Koenan

Def - Carolina

 

[EzCrash]

Lets keep up with them, and compare Green + Wayne and Foster + Evans. my e-mail is Vintage_South@Yahoo.com keep me posted,..this could be a interesting little matchup.

Considering that you list Reggie on your team in your sig .... lets hope I was right on this one .... for both our sakes. My mail is ... ezcrash1(at)cox.netAmish .... very solid team ! Persoanlly I would have LOVED to have Chambers over Driver but I suspect that both could end up with stats very close to each other. ( Is there any doubt that Green Bay will be passing alot in the 3rd / 4th quarter ?? lol )

 

[a_f13nd]

I actually just did WR, WR in a draft today. I have always wanted to try it considering I am a Stud Rb guy normally.I was in the 10th spot of a 10 team league. My picks.1. C. Johnson WR2. T. Holt WR3. B. Westbrook RB4. D. Driver (could have had Chambers -personal pref) WR5. F. Gore RB6. W. Lundy RB7. D. Rhodes RB8. M. Bell RB9. M.Bulger QB10. B. Watson TE11. Carolina DEF12. J. Kitna QB13. A. Bryant WR14. D. Branch WR15. V. Morency RB16. G. Jennings WR17. Cinncinatti DEF18. I. Bruce WR19. M. Koenan K20. J. Stevens TE21. O. Mare KAs you can see it is possible to field a competitive team, but you have to have faith that one or two of the running backs that I took will pan out.WEEK 1 STARTERSQB - M. BulgerRB - B. Westbrook - Rhodes - Lundy - Gore WR - C. Johnson T. Holt D. DriverTE - B. WatsonK - M. KoenanDef - Carolina

That's probably the right move in a 10-team draft, because RB aren't nearly as scarce. I play in a 14-team draft, and drafted from the 14 hole. I really like my team, but I wouldn't feel as good going WR-WR. Droughns fell into my lap in the 3-4, so I took him as my RB3, but I think he would have gone earlier if people knew I hadn't taken a RB.

 

[KevT]

I draft 11 out of 12 in my last draft tomorrow night. As of right now, I'm going in with the intention of drafting WR/WR with my first 2 picks. Of course that could change, if a RB that I really want drops. I don't want Caddy, Edge or Portis. If Rudi/Brown/Jackson slip to me I'll have to take them. Of course my league gives .5 per reception to WR and TE, not to RB, so going WR/WR might help close the distance between my team and the top 3 pick teams.

 

[Team Smokin']

Nice post...good food for thought. I pick from the 11th spot in a 12 teamer coming up soon as well. Been debating getting away from the usual RB/RB and mixing it up, thought maybe RB/WR or even RB or WR/QB if Peyton was still there? Yes, I am even thinking WR/WR.

If Brown or Rudi falls then I will go there. I don't really want Tiki, Caddy, James, Jackson, or Jordan with my #1 pick. Something a little more sexy with S Smith, C Johnson, T Holt, or L Fitzgerald. However, I will most likely go RB/WR.

I believe that RB's like Foster or Dunn, maybe Parker will be available later. And I know that A Green is going to be overlooked as no one wants him. Then there is always Frank Gore, a non-sexy pick, or even Rhodes.

WR's left might include Chambers, S Moss, Kennison, Glenn and for sure T Williamson.

QB's are plentiful in the 7 to 15 range.

So, EzCrash I see your point and there can be some fun had drafting late.

What is a better team:

RB: R Brown

RB: W Dunn

WR: S Smith

WR: C Chambers

OR

RB: D Foster

RB: A Green

WR: S Smith

WR: C Johnson or T Holt

 

[a_f13nd]

Nice post...good food for thought. I pick from the 11th spot in a 12 teamer coming up soon as well. Been debating getting away from the usual RB/RB and mixing it up, thought maybe RB/WR or even RB or WR/QB if Peyton was still there? Yes, I am even thinking WR/WR.If Brown or Rudi falls then I will go there. I don't really want Tiki, Caddy, James, Jackson, or Jordan with my #1 pick. Something a little more sexy with S Smith, C Johnson, T Holt, or L Fitzgerald. However, I will most likely go RB/WR. I believe that RB's like Foster or Dunn, maybe Parker will be available later. And I know that A Green is going to be overlooked as no one wants him. Then there is always Frank Gore, a non-sexy pick, or even Rhodes. WR's left might include Chambers, S Moss, Kennison, Glenn and for sure T Williamson.QB's are plentiful in the 7 to 15 range.So, EzCrash I see your point and there can be some fun had drafting late.What is a better team:RB: R BrownRB: W DunnWR: S SmithWR: C ChambersORRB: D FosterRB: A GreenWR: S SmithWR: C Johnson or T Holt

I wouldn't avoid any of the people you mentioned as RB to avoid. Your team might not be sexy, but it will be better. I'd rather have championships than "sexy" picks.

 

[Vintage_Football]

Amen, I'd rather have LaMont and S.Smith with a DeShaun and a Houshmanzadah.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

12th pick in 2 leagues this year, much prefer the following start

Rd 1 & 2 Cadillac and McGahee

Rd 3 & 4 Wayne and Chambers

Other Draft

Rd 1 & 2 Jordan and McGahee

Rd 3 & 4 Wayne and Chambers

 

[EzCrash]

What is a better team:RB: R BrownRB: W DunnWR: S SmithWR: C ChambersORRB: D FosterRB: A GreenWR: S SmithWR: C Johnson or T Holt

Neither ! They are both going to be competitive and put up a fight every week !

 

[elcohiba]

Without debating picks here's the result of the 12th pick in our redraft start 2 RB league (Manning and S Smith were selected earlier as non RBs)

Moss, Harrison, D.Foster, Moss, TJ, Delhomme, M. Barber, Barlow, G.Jennings, Givens, Elam, Favre, Bears D/ST, Buckhalter, M. Smith, M. Robinson

 

[EzCrash]

Without debating picks here's the result of the 12th pick in our redraft start 2 RB league (Manning and S Smith were selected earlier as non RBs)Moss, Harrison, D.Foster, Moss, TJ, Delhomme, M. Barber, Barlow, G.Jennings, Givens, Elam, Favre, Bears D/ST, Buckhalter, M. Smith, M. Robinson

Delhomme - QBD.Foster and Thomas Jones - RBR. Moss, M. Harrison and S. Moss -WRIn a 12 man league .... looks solid to me ! WR - WR Power !!!Nice Team !And I gotta think that MB III is going to end up as a nice starter 4 to 5 weeks into the season when the Tuna finally realizes that he is a better back then J. Jones.Good luck this year.

 

[gman8343]

Good thread, lots of interesting info in here.

Had the 10th pick in a 12 team league that awards 1ppr to WR/TEs but NOT to RBs. Also QBs TDs are 6 pts, so they tend to go a bit earlier too.

Ended up going WR/WR/TE before grabbing any of my RBs. With the importance of WRs there was a rush in the 3rd-6th round for them, which I anticipated, hoping to nab some value at RB.

Ended up looking like this through the first 7 rounds:

Chad Johnson

Torry Holt

Antonio Gates

Jamal Lewis

Thomas Jones

Cedric Benson

Fred Taylor

If Jamal can have a rebound year I should be in relatively decent shape, especially if Chicago picks a starting RB to give 20 carries a game.

 

[Team Smokin']

Oh, I'm probably going to go with Rudi or Ronnie or Lamont with my 11th pick and one of the top 3-4 WR's at #14, Smith, Johnson, Holt, or Fitzgerald.

Not sure about Edge or S Jackson - hope someone takes them in front of me. I'm sure Tiki goes in the top 5 or 6. Concerned about his TD production?

At #34 and #37 I am targetting Foster or better at RB and Chambers or better at WR.

QB: Delhomme, Hasselbeck, Bulger, or Green

RB: R Bown, Johnson, Jordan, Williams

RB: D Foster, Dunn, Westbrook, McGahee, Portis? Or even Frank Gore (I see him as a real sleeper)

WR: S Smith, Johnson, Holt, Fitzgerald

WR: C Chambers, Wayne, Ward

WR: E Kennison, Evans, Galloway, M Jones

K: Brown or Stover

D/ST: Miami or New England

 

[aardball44]

The stud WR/WR strategy can work for you even if (especially if?) you're drafting in an "early" slot. Just make those WR/WR picks in Rounds 2 and 3 instead of Rounds 1 and 2.

I had Larry Johnson fall into my lap at 1.03 (12-owner league), then watched in amazement at the string of RBs flying off the board until my next pick at 2.10. I added Torry Holt and Larry Fitzgerald in Rounds 2 and 3, then focused on getting a passable RB2 in the 4th round. Kevin Jones was still there, as the other owners were busy trying to add an elite or second-tier WR.

IMO (and according to most rankings I've seen), I got arguably the best RB in the league as well as two Top 5 WRs and a very serviceable RB2.

 

[Darrinll40]

I drafted 10 in a ten team league last night.

1. (10) S. Jackson RB

2. (11) C. Williams RB

3. (30) R. Moss WR

4. (31) R. Wayne WR

5. (50) C. Taylor RB

6. (51) Ro. Williams WR

7. (70) T. Green QB

8. (71) B. Watson TE

9. (90) Mi. Vick QB

10. (91) A. Green RB

11. (110) C. Brown RB

12. (111) L. Coles WR

13. (130) Miami DEF

14. (131) Mi. Clayton WR

15. (150) S. Janikowski K

 

[KevT]

I draft 11 out of 12 in my last draft tomorrow night. As of right now, I'm going in with the intention of drafting WR/WR with my first 2 picks. Of course that could change, if a RB that I really want drops. I don't want Caddy, Edge or Portis. If Rudi/Brown/Jackson slip to me I'll have to take them. Of course my league gives .5 per reception to WR and TE, not to RB, so going WR/WR might help close the distance between my team and the top 3 pick teams.

Just wanted to update this post with my draft, if you don't care, move along: .5 per reception for WR and TE, QBs pass TD = 4 pts, all other scoring is basic

I'll list the first round:

1. SA

2. LJ --- unfortunately Portis slipped to him

3. LT

4. Tiki

5. Edge

6. Steve Jackson

7. Ronnie Brown

8. Steve Smith --- this guy usually has a solid draft, Palmer was his 2nd pick....

9. Manning

10. Chad Johnson

11. Rudie

12. Holt

2.1 Fitz

The .5 per reception for WR and TE was a new rule this year. As you can see a couple people went WR early because of it. I started the draft with 2 people I really wanted. Rudi and Moss. Yes I let Caddy and Lamont slip by my 2nd pick. I didn't want either, just glad Rudi was there so I didn't have to pick one of them.

Here's my team in the order drafted:

1.11 Rudi

2.02 R.Moss

3.11 Driver

4.02 Lewis

5.11 Gonzo

6.02 Ahman

7.11 Coles

8.02 Watson

9.11 Lundy

10.02 Drew Bennett

11.11 Favre

12.02 Bray Edwards

13.11 Miami

14.02 Rivers

15.11 NE

16.02 Koenan

Hated taking Watson in the 8th, after I already had Gonzo, but I didn't want anyone else to have him at this point. Some guys really fell in this draft. Was going for the QBBC is the reason I chose Rivers in the 14th, and going DBBC so that's the reason I have 2 Defenses. My RB's might be a bit weak in depth, but I'm more than happy with them. Gado and Mike Anderson both went in the 9th round, so I was unable to handcuff either one at a reasonable price. I let some guys slip by me in some rounds, because I felt their upside was limited. WR's I'm very happy about.

QB - Favre, Rivers

RB - Rudi, Ahman, JLewis, Lundy

WR - RMoss, Driver, Coles, Bennett, Edwards

DE- Miami, NE

K - Koenan

TE- Watson, Gonzo

edit: forgot to put my TE in, put edited part in italics

 

[aardball44]

Only 14 rounds, eh? One league I drafted in last week scaled back the rosters from 16 to 14 rounds.

I say

But I love the team I drafted and there still are (and will continue to be) viable options on the waiver wire, so it could be worse.

 

[PlayaHata]

I went for the stud WR theory this year as well. I'm in a 16-team league and had the 12th pick. Like the OP, we only HAVE to start 1 RB but we have a flex position that can be RB/WR/TE.

My first 2 picks were Steve Smith and Torry Holt. The RBs I ended up with were Frank Gore, Thomas Jones, Fred Taylor, and Cedric Benson. I figure 1 of those 4 should be able to put up points each week.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

nice post, i'm going to try this in a 10 team redraft league at work going tonight. I'm guessing Chad Johnson with TO, Harrison/Wayne, Boldin or Chambers should be easy enough to get in rounds 1 and 2 from the 8 spot. every mock i run leaves me s.jackson or ronnie brown at 1.08 and i'm not too crazy about either. i'd be happier with dunn in the third or fourth i think. the only RB i can see falling to me at 1.08 to change my plans is Rudi, i'll update tonight after the draft.

 

[EzCrash]

I went for the stud WR theory this year as well. I'm in a 16-team league and had the 12th pick. Like the OP, we only HAVE to start 1 RB but we have a flex position that can be RB/WR/TE.

My first 2 picks were Steve Smith and Torry Holt. The RBs I ended up with were Frank Gore, Thomas Jones, Fred Taylor, and Cedric Benson. I figure 1 of those 4 should be able to put up points each week.

16 team league ? Man, those drafts have got to be nerve racking !T-Jones / Benson

Freddie

Frank Gore

to go with ....

Steve Smith ( his hammy concerned me so I skiped him in favor of Fitz ) and Torry Holt ( my keeper in my league )

Again ... in a sixteen team league ?? Looks like a solid contender to me !

Good luck.

WR - WR POWER !!!!!!