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"Sub Rule" for Players on Injury Report (1 Viewer)

So not one single legit reason to be against this rule then?

I really didn't figure there would be.

So many good things about it without any bad.

 
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So not one single legit reason to be against this rule then?

I really didn't figure there would be.

So many good things about it without any bad.
Agreed. Not one legitimate negative about a rule like this. Just nonsensical arguments from people who can't, or don't want to understand the simple concept, and those who are only interested in what benefits themselves. FF is their #1 priority in life. They don't want, and don't have other responsibilities that conflict with their commitment to FF, so this rule does not benefit them at all. Therefore, since it does not benefit them, they oppose it as it must benefit others which conflicts with their sole desire, which is to win at FF.
 
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As a commissioner I really don't want to be sorting through emails and researching which players that got a 0 were declared out before gametime, switching lineups after games have been played, etc.

My feeling is that submitting a lineup and monitoring a player's status is the job of the team owner. I do see the merit in going with Best Ball though...

 
As a commissioner I really don't want to be sorting through emails and researching which players that got a 0 were declared out before gametime, switching lineups after games have been played, etc.

My feeling is that submitting a lineup and monitoring a player's status is the job of the team owner. I do see the merit in going with Best Ball though...
Why would you have to research anything or sort through emails? No offense, but it sounds like you don't fully understand the concept. Nobody has to email the commissioner. Owners post a message on the league message board for all to see. They do not email the commissioner personally. There really is nothing for the commissioner to do at all, except for the very rare times when this rule comes into play. If/when it does, it's up to the owner to let the commish know, it's not the commish's job to monitor everyone's inactives/subs. Maybe once or twice a season, upon notification by the owner a commish would have to verify a player was inactive and make a lineup change to the sub. Over the course of the season I'd say it would probably take up maybe 5 minutes of the commissioner's time if that. Our commish absolutely loves this rule. He thinks it's the best change our league has ever made, and the league agrees. It's an awesome rule, makes FF so much more enjoyable and lifestyle friendly. We no longer have to interrupt our quality time with our families for FF. We no longer have to be distracted by FF when something more important deserves our attention. I suppose people like us could simply quit FF, but this rule makes doing so unnecessary and we all appreciate it.

Now that I think back, I don't think this rule ever came into effect in my league this season. Not even once. So, commish had zero extra work, and all owners benefitted by not having to monitor last minute inactives or be concerned with making last minute lineup changes.

 
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Suppose you will make the playoffs with a win in week 13. Most weeks you monitor players status right up until kickoff, but this week you're leaving for vacation early Sunday morning. Your QBs are Brees, who is questionable but expected to play, and your backup is Alex Smith. You set your lineup and start Brees in a must-win. When you land in Hawaii, you find out Brees was a last minute scratch, you got a zero at QB and lost by 3 points. Alex Smith had 13 points on your bench. After being an active, competitive owner for 12 weeks, you get knocked out simply because you took your family on vacation?

Obviously, had you not gone on vacation you would've made the switch at QB, right? So, what's the most reasonable solution to what is clearly a problem? Should owners make sure they never take their families on vacations on Sundays? Should owners taking a vacation start lesser players over better players just in case they don't play even though they are expected to? Or should we simply allow owners to post a message stating, "If Brees is inactive start Alex Smith"?

 
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As a commissioner I really don't want to be sorting through emails and researching which players that got a 0 were declared out before gametime, switching lineups after games have been played, etc.

My feeling is that submitting a lineup and monitoring a player's status is the job of the team owner. I do see the merit in going with Best Ball though...
This was by far my biggest concern when I implemented the rule. I went out of my way to put the onus on the owners to try to eliminate commissioner overhead. If you want to submit a request, that's on you to post it on the message board. I'm not going to be making threads or reminding anyone. If you want to claim a request when a player doesn't play? You need to email me a link to the post, timestamped prior to the earliest kickoff of any player involved, because I'm not checking the conditional thread. If there's an "edit by" at the end of the post, and the edit time is after kickoff, the claim is void. Tough luck. Claims need to be in by Wednesday morning or they're forfeit. You need to include a link to the gamebook that specifically mentions the player as a gameday inactive, (this is before www.nfl.com/inactives existed). Nobody can submit double-conditionals, or anything so convoluted that I'd have trouble following or there'd be room for misinterpretation.

And the result of all that concern that it would add a lot of work for me? Much ado about nothing. Since 2007, I've probably processed a dozen claims. Guys shot me a message to let me know, I went into the commissioner options and spent 15 seconds swapping the players out, and that was it. If I've spent more than 20 minutes actually dealing with conditional requests in the nine years of my league's existence, I'd be shocked. It's a complete nothing-burger.

 
As a commissioner I really don't want to be sorting through emails and researching which players that got a 0 were declared out before gametime, switching lineups after games have been played, etc.

My feeling is that submitting a lineup and monitoring a player's status is the job of the team owner. I do see the merit in going with Best Ball though...
Why would you have to research anything or sort through emails? No offense, but it sounds like you don't fully understand the concept. Nobody has to email the commissioner. Owners post a message on the league message board for all to see. They do not email the commissioner personally. There really is nothing for the commissioner to do at all, except for the very rare times when this rule comes into play. If/when it does, it's up to the owner to let the commish know, it's not the commish's job to monitor everyone's inactives/subs.Maybe once or twice a season, upon notification by the owner a commish would have to verify a player was inactive and make a lineup change to the sub. Over the course of the season I'd say it would probably take up maybe 5 minutes of the commissioner's time if that. Our commish absolutely loves this rule. He thinks it's the best change our league has ever made, and the league agrees. It's an awesome rule, makes FF so much more enjoyable and lifestyle friendly. We no longer have to interrupt our quality time with our families for FF. We no longer have to be distracted by FF when something more important deserves our attention. I suppose people like us could simply quit FF, but this rule makes doing so unnecessary and we all appreciate it.

Now that I think back, I don't think this rule ever came into effect in my league this season. Not even once. So, commish had zero extra work, and all owners benefitted by not having to monitor last minute inactives or be concerned with making last minute lineup changes.
With our site (CBS) we get an email notification when you post a message to the entire league.

So it is the owner's responsibility to notify the commish? Okay but the commish has to verify the player was declared out before kickoff and make the substitution. If it happens a lot then I could see it being a PITA. If it happens as infrequently as you say then I don't see why it is worth the bother.

We have some whiners in our league. I could see some of our owners not liking it when they are tracking their game, thinking they are winning and then a sub comes in after the fact and they get the loss. And then others might say "My player was listed as questionable but was kept on the sideline and didn't play a down -- I should be able to sub him too."

I think I would prefer a best ball league over a league with subs but that's just my :2cents:

 
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With our site (CBS) we get an email notification when you post a message to the entire league.

So it is the owner's responsibility to notify the commish? Okay but the commish has to verify the player was declared out before kickoff and make the substitution. If it happens a lot then I could see it being a PITA. If it happens as infrequently as you say then I don't see why it is worth the bother.

We have some whiners in our league. I could see some of our owners not liking it when they are tracking their game, thinking they are winning and then a sub comes in after the fact and they get the loss. And then others might say "My player was listed as questionable but was kept on the sideline and didn't play a down -- I should be able to sub him too."

I think I would prefer a best ball league over a league with subs but that's just my :2cents:
Verifying that a player was declared out anymore is as simple as typing in www.nfl.com/inactives. It used to be more of a pain, (it meant tracking down individual gamebooks).

The reason it's worth the bother is that it helps owners even when it doesn't come into play. Let's say that Drew Brees is listed as questionable every week of the year, but he plays 15 of the 16 weeks, anyway. Yes, an owner who listed a conditional claim on him every week would only cash in once... but he's benefitting every single week. Without conditionals, he needs to check every Sunday at 12:45 to make sure this isn't the one in sixteen weeks where Drew Brees is out. Most of that effort is wasted, since Brees usually winds up playing.

Even on weeks where a conditional isn't claimed, it still obviates the need to be tied to your computer watching for inactives.

If you don't like the setting lineups aspect of fantasy football, Best Ball is a great option, too. But I happen to like setting lineups, so Best Ball isn't an appealing solution for me.

 
As a commissioner I really don't want to be sorting through emails and researching which players that got a 0 were declared out before gametime, switching lineups after games have been played, etc.

My feeling is that submitting a lineup and monitoring a player's status is the job of the team owner. I do see the merit in going with Best Ball though...
You don't have to sort through anything at all.

If it happens, the team owner will make you well aware of it.

Or if the software allows it, you don't have to do anything at all.

 

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