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*** Super BOWL XL Game Thread *** (1 Viewer)

I have absolutely no rooting interest, as a Redskins and Broncos fan I'm currently hating both teams.

It was a horrible pass interference call, and if anything should have been illegal contact on the defender a few moments earlier when he put his hands on the receiver making a cut.

It wasn't a TD. The TV shot from inside the endzone makes the ball look closer to the endzone line than it is. When he got hit, the ball didn't go backwards. It went straight down to the 6" line... where the ref was going to spot it until Ben moved the ball into the endzone from the ground.

However... there's no way Seattle should have given up that 3 and 28. It looked like Boulware was waiting for the ball to get to Ward instead of just stepping in front and knocking it down. I think he was afraid of cutting in and having the ball go over his head, but it should have been an easy pick.

The Steelers are lucky to be in the game, much less have the lead.

 
First half thoughts...

Darrell Jackson clearly pushed off on the TD, but he probably didn't have to.  All he had to do was stop and turn around... it would've been a TD.  He probably could've had a TD late in the 1st half too, but he ran the route too close to the sideline.

Seattle had plenty of opportunities to score early.  They had 3 or 4 straight drives starting near midfield and managed to get only 3 points.  The Steelers' defense has been awesome when they needed to be.

The Steelers are doing a tremendous job on Alexander.  If they can take away Jackson with some safety help, I like their chances to cover Engram and Jurevicious. 

Ben hasn't been extremely sharp, but he was looking much better as the 2nd quarter was finishing up.  That seam pass to Wilson was the first pass he threw that looked sharp.  He missed some open guys early off of play action, and Ward should've caught the pass in the end zone.  He catches that ball 75% of the time.

To me, it looked like Ben's TD was too close to be overturned.  If he was short, it was by a centimeter.  If he was in, it was by the tip of the ball by his elbow.  Whatever the call on the field was would stand.
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A replete, but biased post.
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Biased? What's biased about it?
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:towelwave: Steelers Fan :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: Saying that the PI was a correct call.

Saying that Ben's TD was a correct call.

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PI on D-Jax is not called 90% of the time.

Steelers TD was not a TD. Too close to overturn, but it was not a TD.

Steelers offense looks awful. They have not done anything except a reverse and a semi-hail mary pass.

The Seahawks D has looked more sharper than everybody expected.

S Alex has not done much, Parker even less.

Hasselbeck is doing reasonably well.

I hope someone will rise in the 2nd half and remove doubts about the refs influencing the result.

 
Yeah, that was ugly for Seattle. They outplayed the Steelers, yet are down 4--if Pitt pulls it together at all, it'll be curtains.
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On the other hand, they've been the first team in the playoffs that Pittsburgh hasn't jumped all over right out of the gate. I'm willing to bet that they're frustrated but I'm also willing to bet that they're thinking they can win this game.
 
Yeah, that was ugly for Seattle.  They outplayed the Steelers, yet are down 4--if Pitt pulls it together at all, it'll be curtains.
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On the other hand, they've been the first team in the playoffs that Pittsburgh hasn't jumped all over right out of the gate. I'm willing to bet that they're frustrated but I'm also willing to bet that they're thinking they can win this game.
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I think the two weeks off really hurt the Steelers.THey just do not look as sharp.

 
Why can't we get a couple high school bands from Seattle and Pittsburgh for the half-time show, then get back to football? :wall:

 
I thought the PI call was correct. Granted, it isn't usually called, but he clearly pushed off.

As for the Ben TD, I don't know. Too close to call from the angle of the camera. I don't think it could have been reversed either way. If it wasn't called a TD on the field, replay woulddn't have changed that.

The Steeler D is playing well. Seattle has had field position the whole game but only has 3 points to show for it.

If Ben doesn't play better in the second half I think Seattle pulls this one out.

We'll see.

 
First half thoughts...

Darrell Jackson clearly pushed off on the TD, but he probably didn't have to.  All he had to do was stop and turn around... it would've been a TD.  He probably could've had a TD late in the 1st half too, but he ran the route too close to the sideline.

Seattle had plenty of opportunities to score early.  They had 3 or 4 straight drives starting near midfield and managed to get only 3 points.  The Steelers' defense has been awesome when they needed to be.

The Steelers are doing a tremendous job on Alexander.  If they can take away Jackson with some safety help, I like their chances to cover Engram and Jurevicious. 

Ben hasn't been extremely sharp, but he was looking much better as the 2nd quarter was finishing up.  That seam pass to Wilson was the first pass he threw that looked sharp.  He missed some open guys early off of play action, and Ward should've caught the pass in the end zone.  He catches that ball 75% of the time.

To me, it looked like Ben's TD was too close to be overturned.  If he was short, it was by a centimeter.  If he was in, it was by the tip of the ball by his elbow.  Whatever the call on the field was would stand.
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A replete, but biased post.
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Biased? What's biased about it?
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:towelwave: Steelers Fan :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: Saying that the PI was a correct call.

Saying that Ben's TD was a correct call.

:towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave:
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OK. I'm a Steelers fan, but I said Ben wasn't sharp for most of the first half and Ward should've caught the TD. I said the Steelers defense has played very well considering that the Seahawks started 3 or 4 drives near midfield and have 3 points to show for it. That's not biased.As for your 2 points...

Darrell Jackson clearly DID push off with his right arm. I said he didn't have to, but he did.

And I didn't say Ben was in. I said the call on the field was going to stand no matter what it was because the replays weren't conclusive no matter how much some people want them to be. It looked like the tip of the ball that was tucked away by his elbow could've cross the line before he was hit, but if it did, it was by an inch either way.

 
the first half has been very disappointing..hopefully the 2nd half is better..(but as long as the Steelers win, i could really care less)

 
I thought the pilon is in-bounds? D-Jax's right foot hit the pilon before stepping out.

I've gotta be wrong, though, since no one's talking about that Seattle TD hosing.

 
Wow great refs in this game.. Bens is not a TD and I have seen others do worse pushing off and not get called... They must be showing the Steelers that they are sorry about almost giving the game to the Colts a month back.. Interesting game but bad calls all ready... Not a fan of either just make the call correct. Now on with the game...

 
Yeah, that was ugly for Seattle. They outplayed the Steelers, yet are down 4--if Pitt pulls it together at all, it'll be curtains.
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On the other hand, they've been the first team in the playoffs that Pittsburgh hasn't jumped all over right out of the gate. I'm willing to bet that they're frustrated but I'm also willing to bet that they're thinking they can win this game.
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The Steelers were losing at halftime to the Bengals in the wild card round.
 
I thought the pilon is in-bounds? D-Jax's right foot hit the pilon before stepping out.

I've gotta be wrong, though, since no one's talking about that Seattle TD hosing.
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thats what i asked. is the pilon inbounds?
 
This is 2006. You'd think they could put an RFID in the ball to determine where it is at all times. Contraversies like this would be greatly diminished, if not eliminated. Put one in a baseball for balls and strikes as well.

 
I thought the pilon is in-bounds? D-Jax's right foot hit the pilon before stepping out.

I've gotta be wrong, though, since no one's talking about that Seattle TD hosing.
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It should matter where the balll was in regards to the goalline when he foot went out of bounds, but Emmitt Smith made the foot-swipe famous and they seem to disregard the ball when the feet are in play.
 
First half thoughts...

Darrell Jackson clearly pushed off on the TD, but he probably didn't have to.  All he had to do was stop and turn around... it would've been a TD.  He probably could've had a TD late in the 1st half too, but he ran the route too close to the sideline.

Seattle had plenty of opportunities to score early.  They had 3 or 4 straight drives starting near midfield and managed to get only 3 points.  The Steelers' defense has been awesome when they needed to be.

The Steelers are doing a tremendous job on Alexander.  If they can take away Jackson with some safety help, I like their chances to cover Engram and Jurevicious. 

Ben hasn't been extremely sharp, but he was looking much better as the 2nd quarter was finishing up.  That seam pass to Wilson was the first pass he threw that looked sharp.  He missed some open guys early off of play action, and Ward should've caught the pass in the end zone.  He catches that ball 75% of the time.

To me, it looked like Ben's TD was too close to be overturned.  If he was short, it was by a centimeter.  If he was in, it was by the tip of the ball by his elbow.  Whatever the call on the field was would stand.
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A replete, but biased post.
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Biased? What's biased about it?
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:towelwave: Steelers Fan :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: Saying that the PI was a correct call.

Saying that Ben's TD was a correct call.

:towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave:
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OK. I'm a Steelers fan, but I said Ben wasn't sharp for most of the first half and Ward should've caught the TD. I said the Steelers defense has played very well considering that the Seahawks started 3 or 4 drives near midfield and have 3 points to show for it. That's not biased.As for your 2 points...

Darrell Jackson clearly DID push off with his right arm. I said he didn't have to, but he did.

And I didn't say Ben was in. I said the call on the field was going to stand no matter what it was because the replays weren't conclusive no matter how much some people want them to be. It looked like the tip of the ball that was tucked away by his elbow could've cross the line before he was hit, but if it did, it was by an inch either way.
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Not saying that your not correct in your answers.I personally think the PI call was very weak. heck they could of called Pitt for Def PI for holding him if they called him for the push off. But To me it should have been a NO Call.

The TD was close, Plus I think they would of went for it on 4th down which kinda makes it a non factor.

But you asked what bias and since your a Steelers fan you will see it for the Steelers. But that is what true Football fans do.

 
This is 2006. You'd think they could put an RFID in the ball to determine where it is at all times. Contraversies like this would be greatly diminished, if not eliminated. Put one in a baseball for balls and strikes as well.
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:goodposting:
 
The volume was messed up at the start of the Stones' halftime show. But still, they didn't sound great. I did like McCartney last year though.

At least there's no Ashlee Simpson.

 
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Good calls on both the PI and Big Ben TD. Thought the nose hit the line before he tucked it in.

True that guys get away with what D-Jax did 95% of the time. Then again, those games aren't the Super Bowl & this crew's done a great job so far.

 
I thought the pilon is in-bounds? D-Jax's right foot hit the pilon before stepping out.

I've gotta be wrong, though, since no one's talking about that Seattle TD hosing.
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thats what i asked. is the pilon inbounds?
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Can anyone answer this???? This is exactly what I was wondering??? Because when a RB dives and hits it, its automatically a TD. But then again, that RB probably has established position already.So if Jackson got his left foot down, then his right foot hit the pilon...is that possession and a TD??

 
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I thought the pilon is in-bounds?  D-Jax's right foot hit the pilon before stepping out.

I've gotta be wrong, though, since no one's talking about that Seattle TD hosing.
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It should matter where the balll was in regards to the goalline when he foot went out of bounds, but Emmitt Smith made the foot-swipe famous and they seem to disregard the ball when the feet are in play.
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I can see that it should matter where the ball is (even though, as you point out, with Emmitt it didn't matter), but even if it was called right here, shouldn't his 2nd foot hitting the pilon make his foot "in", so the catch should count even if the ball is spotted at the 1 yd line?
 
Good calls on both the PI and Big Ben TD. Thought the nose hit the line before he tucked it in.

True that guys get away with what D-Jax did 95% of the time. Then again, those games aren't the Super Bowl & this crew's done a great job so far.
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couldn't agree more.
 
Good calls on both the PI and Big Ben TD. Thought the nose hit the line before he tucked it in.

True that guys get away with what D-Jax did 95% of the time. Then again, those games aren't the Super Bowl & this crew's done a great job so far.
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So you are saying they make the wrong call 95% of the time? Come on... If you're not going to call it all year, don't do it in the Super Bowl.
 
The Stones are "taking it home", so at least there's that.
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Horrible half time show. Someone needs to tell the Stones to quit doing meth. Lets hope the 2nd half is worth watching...
 
First half thoughts...

Darrell Jackson clearly pushed off on the TD, but he probably didn't have to.  All he had to do was stop and turn around... it would've been a TD.  He probably could've had a TD late in the 1st half too, but he ran the route too close to the sideline.

Seattle had plenty of opportunities to score early.  They had 3 or 4 straight drives starting near midfield and managed to get only 3 points.  The Steelers' defense has been awesome when they needed to be.

The Steelers are doing a tremendous job on Alexander.  If they can take away Jackson with some safety help, I like their chances to cover Engram and Jurevicious. 

Ben hasn't been extremely sharp, but he was looking much better as the 2nd quarter was finishing up.  That seam pass to Wilson was the first pass he threw that looked sharp.  He missed some open guys early off of play action, and Ward should've caught the pass in the end zone.  He catches that ball 75% of the time.

To me, it looked like Ben's TD was too close to be overturned.  If he was short, it was by a centimeter.  If he was in, it was by the tip of the ball by his elbow.  Whatever the call on the field was would stand.
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A replete, but biased post.
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Biased? What's biased about it?
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:towelwave: Steelers Fan :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: Saying that the PI was a correct call.

Saying that Ben's TD was a correct call.

:towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave: :towelwave:
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OK. I'm a Steelers fan, but I said Ben wasn't sharp for most of the first half and Ward should've caught the TD. I said the Steelers defense has played very well considering that the Seahawks started 3 or 4 drives near midfield and have 3 points to show for it. That's not biased.As for your 2 points...

Darrell Jackson clearly DID push off with his right arm. I said he didn't have to, but he did.

And I didn't say Ben was in. I said the call on the field was going to stand no matter what it was because the replays weren't conclusive no matter how much some people want them to be. It looked like the tip of the ball that was tucked away by his elbow could've cross the line before he was hit, but if it did, it was by an inch either way.
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Not saying that your not correct in your answers.I personally think the PI call was very weak. heck they could of called Pitt for Def PI for holding him if they called him for the push off. But To me it should have been a NO Call.

The TD was close, Plus I think they would of went for it on 4th down which kinda makes it a non factor.

But you asked what bias and since your a Steelers fan you will see it for the Steelers. But that is what true Football fans do.
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"Biased" has a negatvie conotation. I think what I said was pretty objective.The PI call was made for 2 reasons - it was directly in front of the referee (or back judge, or whatever he is) and Jackson's arm was FULLY extended when he did it. That call is made every time when the WR's arm is extended like that. As a Seattle fan, I'd be pissed off because all Jackson had to do was stop and take 2 steps back without touching Hope and it's a TD.

 
I thought the pilon is in-bounds?  D-Jax's right foot hit the pilon before stepping out.

I've gotta be wrong, though, since no one's talking about that Seattle TD hosing.
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It should matter where the balll was in regards to the goalline when he foot went out of bounds, but Emmitt Smith made the foot-swipe famous and they seem to disregard the ball when the feet are in play.
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I can see that it should matter where the ball is (even though, as you point out, with Emmitt it didn't matter), but even if it was called right here, shouldn't his 2nd foot hitting the pilon make his foot "in", so the catch should count even if the ball is spotted at the 1 yd line?
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Sure, but I don't think his foot hit the foam (from the one replay that I saw).
 
There should be rule....Nobody over the age of 60 allowed to perform at a NFL game.....including national anthem.

 
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