*** Super BOWL XL Game Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[Newman]

So, to all of the people whining about the officiating of this game... do you think Seattle played well enough to win?

I did. I thought they looked like the better team. But it doesn't really matter.I guess I should do the obligatory

 

[Ditka is God]

Awful strange scene watching Cowher out at midfield waiting for Holmgren ... any further word on whether they ever shook hands?????

 

[thejag]

How many holding calls on Pittsburgh today?

0

I've heard that an official can call holding on every play....if he "sees" it.

3 penalties on Pittsburgh tonight: 2 false starts in the first 4 snaps, an offensive PI on a 5 yard screen pass, and that's it.

 

[Clayton Gray]

The Big Ben TD was clearly the correct call. They showed the tip of the ball breaking the plane of the goal line. That's all that is required. Non-issue.

I think the big contention here is that the official runs in from the sideline ready to mark the ball around the 4-6 inch line. He then sees Roethlisberger laying on the goalline and signals TD.

 

[Kleck]

So, to all of the people whining about the officiating of this game... do you think Seattle played well enough to win?

No. My team played poorly. I think both teams played poorly. Actually, the played poorly on offense, but much of that should be credited to solid defense as well.

 

[Willy]

Awful strange scene watching Cowher out at midfield waiting for Holmgren ... any further word on whether they ever shook hands?????

I'd like to know what happened.

 

[Steelers4Life]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off? That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side. It was a huge call, I agree.

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run. Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow. If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too.

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

 

[RoarinSonoran]

Who's the MVP of this abomination? Hines Ward?

Since the refs aren't on the ballot, probably Big Ben. He's the only player you could really say was around all game.

9 for 21 with 2 INTS????????What a joke.

Who's the MVP of this abomination? Hines Ward?

Since the refs aren't on the ballot, probably Big Ben. He's the only player you could really say was around all game.

9 for 21 and 2 picks is worthy of MVP?

Didn't know his stats. There just wasn't anyone else that really stood out, IMO. Several players had brief flashes, but no one appeared to carry the team on his back. For either team.

 

[Clayton Gray]

Congrats to Pittsburgh and their fans.

Hey Shick!,Were you able to apply KY before kickoff?

 

[Angry Cheesehead]

Just started a thread about it.

Bettis is done. Its on the NFL Network.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=224715

 

[Newman]

The Big Ben TD was clearly the correct call. They showed the tip of the ball breaking the plane of the goal line. That's all that is required. Non-issue.

I think the big contention here is that the official runs in from the sideline ready to mark the ball around the 4-6 inch line. He then sees Roethlisberger laying on the goalline and signals TD.

I couldn't tell for sure, but it looked to me like his elbow broke the plane, not the ball. If the elbow but not the ball breaks the plane, should that be a TD? I don't think so, but I'm not positive.

 

[jurb26]

Congrats to Pittsburgh and their fans.

Hey Shick!,Were you able to apply KY before kickoff?

This is sad.

 

[shakeybarn]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off? That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side. It was a huge call, I agree.

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run. Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow. If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too.

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

Sorry bro... you are so in the minority... look on all message boards from all neutral fans... Seattle got jobbed on key plays. Period.

 

[Red Herring]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off? That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side. It was a huge call, I agree.

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run. Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow. If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too.

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

I was with you right up to here -- none of these would/could/should have happened if not for piss poor officiating

 

[Newman]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off? That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

Classic. A Steeler fan defending the refs. Shocking. The DB did more pushing on that play than Jackson.

 

[Kleck]

Congrats to Pittsburgh and their fans.

Hey Shick!,Were you able to apply KY before kickoff?

Not necessary. I'm not going to whine. My team didn't make plays when they had opportunities.

 

[Steelers4Life]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off?  That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side.  It was a huge call, I agree. 

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run.  Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow.  If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too. 

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

Sorry bro... you are so in the minority... look on all message boards from all neutral fans... Seattle got jobbed on key plays. Period.

Instead of saying that, what that I said do you disagree with?

 

[Clayton Gray]

So, to all of the people whining about the officiating of this game... do you think Seattle played well enough to win?

Well if Pittsburgh played well enough to win, then Seattle certainly did.

 

[shakeybarn]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off?  That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side.  It was a huge call, I agree. 

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run.  Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow.  If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too. 

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

I was with you right up to here -- none of these would/could/should have happened if not for piss poor officiating

Noone is denying the 75 yard run... not at all... but the Hass INT shoudl be a non-issue via the 1st and 1yd bad holding call episode. Refs picked the bad spots for the bad calls... plain and simple.

 

[Mik789fl]

Awful strange scene watching Cowher out at midfield waiting for Holmgren ... any further word on whether they ever shook hands?????

There was a wide shot as the clock hit zero and teams were coming onto the field,Holmgren started running towards the left end-zone as if he were chasing down an official.I don't know if he came back to congratulate Cowher. Anyone else see it?

 

[Steelers4Life]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off?  That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

Classic. A Steeler fan defending the refs. Shocking. The DB did more pushing on that play than Jackson.

I think you should watch that play again. Hope grazed his shoulder and didn't impede his progress at all. Jackson extended his arm and pushed off.And I'd hardly say Steeler fans are thrilled with officiating these playoffs. They just overcame some awful calls in the Indy game.

 

[jurb26]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off? That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

Classic. A Steeler fan defending the refs. Shocking. The DB did more pushing on that play than Jackson.

This is the most absurd thing I have heard in a while.

 

[Workhorse]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off? That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side. It was a huge call, I agree.

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run. Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow. If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too.

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

Sorry bro... you are so in the minority... look on all message boards from all neutral fans... Seattle got jobbed on key plays. Period.

Instead of saying that, what that I said do you disagree with?

The PI call. Just AWFUL. There was as much contact the other way. The little bit of contact didn't affect the play at all. And the ref clearly got talked into the call by the DB. Watch the replay from the long angle...The holding call was a complete phantom.

That was NOT a TD. The ball was short. Period.

The delay of game screwup. No way they got that TO in time.

Face it. You won't find ANYONE except a Steelers fan who thinks this was legit.

 

[Chaos Commish]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off? That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side. It was a huge call, I agree.

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run. Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow. If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too.

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

Sorry bro... you are so in the minority... look on all message boards from all neutral fans... Seattle got jobbed on key plays. Period.

Instead of saying that, what that I said do you disagree with?

The PI call. Just AWFUL. There was as much contact the other way. The little bit of contact didn't affect the play at all. And the ref clearly got talked into the call by the DB. Watch the replay from the long angle...The holding call was a complete phantom.

That was NOT a TD. The ball was short. Period.

The delay of game screwup. No way they got that TO in time.

Face it. You won't find ANYONE except a Steelers fan who thinks this was legit.

I'm a Cowboy fan. I was pulling for the Seahawks because they were underdogs. I think the Steeler win was legit.

 

[jurb26]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off? That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side. It was a huge call, I agree.

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run. Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow. If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too.

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

Sorry bro... you are so in the minority... look on all message boards from all neutral fans... Seattle got jobbed on key plays. Period.

Instead of saying that, what that I said do you disagree with?

The PI call. Just AWFUL. There was as much contact the other way. The little bit of contact didn't affect the play at all. And the ref clearly got talked into the call by the DB. Watch the replay from the long angle...The holding call was a complete phantom.

That was NOT a TD. The ball was short. Period.

The delay of game screwup. No way they got that TO in time.

Face it. You won't find ANYONE except a Steelers fan who thinks this was legit.

I'm a Cowboy fan. I was pulling for the Seahawks because they were underdogs. I think the Steeler win was legit.

Hope you're wearing some hater armor.

 

[Clayton Gray]

NFL will admit nothing. Every Wednesday they trot their director of officiating out to explain why you can't believe what you saw on Sunday and why their officials made the right call in every circumstance.

The offensive pass interference -- falls under the letter of the rule, though it's not called that way 99 percent of the time.

Ben's TD -- nothing indisputable on replay, so the ref made the right call.

The holding calls -- absolutely perfect.

Maybe they'll confess on the Hasselbeck tackle; by admitting guilt on a relatively minor infraction, they gain plausibility in their denial of all the other blown calls.

How does he explain away calling a TO with a big fat ZERO on the play clock?

A TO can be called by the Sidelines. Which is what happened.

I'd bet any amount of money that didn't happen. Where are you getting this BS from?

It's the only explanation that could make sense....besides the unbelievable notion that the officials blew it.

 

[RBM]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off?  That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side.  It was a huge call, I agree. 

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run.  Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow.  If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too. 

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

Sorry bro... you are so in the minority... look on all message boards from all neutral fans... Seattle got jobbed on key plays. Period.

Instead of saying that, what that I said do you disagree with?

The PI call. Just AWFUL. There was as much contact the other way. The little bit of contact didn't affect the play at all. And the ref clearly got talked into the call by the DB. Watch the replay from the long angle...The holding call was a complete phantom.

That was NOT a TD. The ball was short. Period.

The delay of game screwup. No way they got that TO in time.

Face it. You won't find ANYONE except a Steelers fan who thinks this was legit.

When do you see a complete game of every little single ticky tack call go against one team?? NeverAwful, awful job by the refs

I cant think of a more underwhelming SB victory

edit: Im a Bear fan. Couldnt care less about either team. Want to be happy for Bettis, Cowher and Ward but am having a hard time

 

[MrNiceGuy]

So who won the MVP?

 

[T Love]

Being a Seahawks fan I am biased, but other nonpartisan people I watched the game with completely agreed. Besides D Jax & Roethlisberger's TD there were many other instances.

The pass interference call on DJax hasn't been called like that all season. It only appeared to be called after the Pitt player reminded the official who he should be rooting for.

Roethlisberger's TD come on. The ref put up his hand to spot the ball until he "remembered" who was supposed to win the game.

Delay of game on Roethlisberger.

Hasselbeck's penalty for tackling.

Stevens fumble in the first half being ruled incomplete.

The pass to Stevens to the one where they called holding (the only other catch he held on to), where was the holding? No replay showed anywhere where there was holding. Madden even commented that it was a bad call.

Randle El's TD pass, there was holding in the exact same instance the Seahawks was called for in the first half.

Watch the first half and the spots the Seahawks were getting then. A number were short of where they should have been. They were spotting the ball where the knee was down, not where the ball was with the knee down. Who knew those poor spots were an omen for how the game would be officiated going forward.

Being jobbed by the officials wasn't just on three to four big plays, but seemed to be consistent over the course of the entire game. That is what is frustrating. I could understand one or two plays going against a team, but consistently poor officiaiting, from the first half through the end of the game was ridiculous (from little stuff like ball spotting to bogus TD calls). Looks like the NFL wanted the Bettis coming home & winning a championship story more than a fairly called game.

WORST OFFICIATED SUPER BOWL EVER!!!

 

[Steelers4Life]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off?  That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side.  It was a huge call, I agree. 

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run.  Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow.  If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too. 

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

Sorry bro... you are so in the minority... look on all message boards from all neutral fans... Seattle got jobbed on key plays. Period.

Instead of saying that, what that I said do you disagree with?

The PI call. Just AWFUL. There was as much contact the other way. The little bit of contact didn't affect the play at all. And the ref clearly got talked into the call by the DB. Watch the replay from the long angle...The holding call was a complete phantom.

That was NOT a TD. The ball was short. Period.

The delay of game screwup. No way they got that TO in time.

Face it. You won't find ANYONE except a Steelers fan who thinks this was legit.

Well, people will have their opinions, and that's OK.I suggest you watch that PI call again... when the WR extends his arm, it's called 9 times out of 10 whether it affects the play or not. I agree that Jackson would've scored otherwise if he didn't push off.

 

[Mik789fl]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off?  That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side.  It was a huge call, I agree. 

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run.  Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow.  If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too. 

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

Sorry bro... you are so in the minority... look on all message boards from all neutral fans... Seattle got jobbed on key plays. Period.

Instead of saying that, what that I said do you disagree with?

The PI call. Just AWFUL. There was as much contact the other way. The little bit of contact didn't affect the play at all. And the ref clearly got talked into the call by the DB. Watch the replay from the long angle...The holding call was a complete phantom.

That was NOT a TD. The ball was short. Period.

The delay of game screwup. No way they got that TO in time.

Face it. You won't find ANYONE except a Steelers fan who thinks this was legit.

I'm a Giants fan,had no interest in either team,just wanted to watch a Super Bowl. The Steeler win was legit. They made more big plays than Seattle. Don't blame the officials because Seattle lost. Blame 2 missed FG's by Brown,an INT by Hasselbeck in the red-zone, poor clock management by Holmgren and bad angles by the DB's on Parker's TD. Pittsburgh-21 Seattle-10,##### about the officials all you want,it ain't gonna change the outcome.

 

[shakeybarn]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off?  That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side.  It was a huge call, I agree. 

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run.  Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow.  If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too. 

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

Sorry bro... you are so in the minority... look on all message boards from all neutral fans... Seattle got jobbed on key plays. Period.

Instead of saying that, what that I said do you disagree with?

The PI call. Just AWFUL. There was as much contact the other way. The little bit of contact didn't affect the play at all. And the ref clearly got talked into the call by the DB. Watch the replay from the long angle...The holding call was a complete phantom.

That was NOT a TD. The ball was short. Period.

The delay of game screwup. No way they got that TO in time.

Face it. You won't find ANYONE except a Steelers fan who thinks this was legit.

Well, people will have their opinions, and that's OK.I suggest you watch that PI call again... when the WR extends his arm, it's called 9 times out of 10 whether it affects the play or not. I agree that Jackson would've scored otherwise if he didn't push off.

Lame brain... rewind your TIVO... find the PUSH part of that.. he didn't PUSH. Period.

 

[Steelers4Life]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off?  That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side.  It was a huge call, I agree. 

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run.  Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow.  If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too. 

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

Sorry bro... you are so in the minority... look on all message boards from all neutral fans... Seattle got jobbed on key plays. Period.

Instead of saying that, what that I said do you disagree with?

The PI call. Just AWFUL. There was as much contact the other way. The little bit of contact didn't affect the play at all. And the ref clearly got talked into the call by the DB. Watch the replay from the long angle...The holding call was a complete phantom.

That was NOT a TD. The ball was short. Period.

The delay of game screwup. No way they got that TO in time.

Face it. You won't find ANYONE except a Steelers fan who thinks this was legit.

Well, people will have their opinions, and that's OK.I suggest you watch that PI call again... when the WR extends his arm, it's called 9 times out of 10 whether it affects the play or not. I agree that Jackson would've scored otherwise if he didn't push off.

Lame brain... rewind your TIVO... find the PUSH part of that.. he didn't PUSH. Period.

Funny, but the guys on the NFL network just said he did.

 

[jurb26]

Well, people will have their opinions, and that's OK.I suggest you watch that PI call again... when the WR extends his arm, it's called 9 times out of 10 whether it affects the play or not. I agree that Jackson would've scored otherwise if he didn't push off.

I disagree that it is called 9 times out of 10, but thats only becuase I think the cercumstances are differnent 9 times out of 10 as well. We do see contact similar to that in coverage all the time. The difference in this case was that Jackson was already open and ran back to the defender and initiated the contact. That appears to be a flagrent PI, especially when you do it directly in front of an official IMO. He was already open and did not need to come back and push off. He did anyway and cost his team. It was a poor judgement by Jackson, not the official.

 

[The_Man]

Funny, but the guys on the NFL network just said he did.

That'll happen when Paul Tagliabue signs your checks.

 

[Darth Cheney]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off?  That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

So is the Locklear holding call, when Haggans was taken down from the side.  It was a huge call, I agree. 

And I'm sorry, but the ball very easily could've broken the plane on Ben's TD run.  Not the entire ball, but the corner of it that was tucked in by his elbow.  If it wouldn't have been called a TD, that call would've stood, too. 

I love how no one cares that Hasselbeck threw a very costly INT or they gave up a 75 yard TD run or they gave up a 40+ yard trick play TD or they scored only 10 points or the Steelers held Seattle to 33% 3rd down conversions or Josh Brown missed 2 field goals or...

It's so much easier to just blame the refs.

Sorry bro... you are so in the minority... look on all message boards from all neutral fans... Seattle got jobbed on key plays. Period.

Instead of saying that, what that I said do you disagree with?

The PI call. Just AWFUL. There was as much contact the other way. The little bit of contact didn't affect the play at all. And the ref clearly got talked into the call by the DB. Watch the replay from the long angle...The holding call was a complete phantom.

That was NOT a TD. The ball was short. Period.

The delay of game screwup. No way they got that TO in time.

Face it. You won't find ANYONE except a Steelers fan who thinks this was legit.

I'm a Cowboy fan. I was pulling for the Seahawks because they were underdogs. I think the Steeler win was legit.

Me too. Congratulations to the Steelers and all their fans on this SuperBowl win......

 

[MallRat]

What a hideous, hideous game.

Awful clock management. Awful quarterbacking. Awful officiating. Awful coaching.

I need to take a shower after watching this miserable thing... Pittsburgh won because they sucked less than Seattle. Oh, and the refs didn't hurt either.

Can we please have another Super Bowl? Indy vs. Chicago? How about New England vs. Carolina again? That would've been nice.

 

[greenroom]

NFL will admit nothing. Every Wednesday they trot their director of officiating out to explain why you can't believe what you saw on Sunday and why their officials made the right call in every circumstance.

The offensive pass interference -- falls under the letter of the rule, though it's not called that way 99 percent of the time.

Ben's TD -- nothing indisputable on replay, so the ref made the right call.

The holding calls -- absolutely perfect.

Maybe they'll confess on the Hasselbeck tackle; by admitting guilt on a relatively minor infraction, they gain plausibility in their denial of all the other blown calls.

How does he explain away calling a TO with a big fat ZERO on the play clock?

A TO can be called by the Sidelines. Which is what happened.

I'd bet any amount of money that didn't happen. Where are you getting this BS from?

A NFL Coach can call a Time Out. It does not have to be a player on the field.I don't understand why you do not understand this. It happens every week a NFL coach will call the time out???

 

[Bears_Man2]

I'm not a Steeler fan obviously & I believe both the PI and Big Ben calls were correct.

The holding call (and the subsequent Hasselback penalty) might be another story.

 

[Steelers4Life]

ANYONE who thinks the call on Locklear was bogus needs to go back and watch that play again.

Haggans got around him and Locklear used his right arm to drag him. He didn't have position and was beaten around the end. It was a huge call, but if anyone can watch that play again and NOT see holding, they're blind.

 

[Bad_Mo]

ONE FOR THE THUMB..FINALLLY

Finally!.....now they can take it outta their arses and put some jewlery on it.

 

[Newman]

This whining about officiating is 100% ridiculous.

HOW can anyone say the PI call was poor when he blatantly extended his arm right in front of the ref to push off?  That's called EVERY time when the receiver completely extends his arm like that, and I'd feel the same way if it were Hines Ward doing it.

Classic. A Steeler fan defending the refs. Shocking. The DB did more pushing on that play than Jackson.

This is the most absurd thing I have heard in a while.

You've got to be kidding me. Let me guess, Steeler fan? Unbelieveable.

 

[The_Man]

ANYONE who thinks the call on Locklear was bogus needs to go back and watch that play again.

Haggans got around him and Locklear used his right arm to drag him. He didn't have position and was beaten around the end. It was a huge call, but if anyone can watch that play again and NOT see holding, they're blind.

I don't think anyone's talking about that call. They're talking about the pass that set up first and goal on the one that was called back, after which Madden watched the replay and said there was no holding.

 

[T Love]

ANYONE who thinks the call on Locklear was bogus needs to go back and watch that play again.

Haggans got around him and Locklear used his right arm to drag him. He didn't have position and was beaten around the end. It was a huge call, but if anyone can watch that play again and NOT see holding, they're blind.

The first one, yes it was the correct call. The second one on the pass to Stevens, absolutely horrible call. Madden even commented he couldn't see where there was holding.

 

[Mik789fl]

ANYONE who thinks the call on Locklear was bogus needs to go back and watch that play again.

Haggans got around him and Locklear used his right arm to drag him.  He didn't have position and was beaten around the end.  It was a huge call, but if anyone can watch that play again and NOT see holding, they're blind.

The first one, yes it was the correct call. The second one on the pass to Stevens, absolutely horrible call. Madden even commented he couldn't see where there was holding.

And of course,if John Madden says it didn't happen,it didn't,because he's never wrong.

 

[The_Man]

ANYONE who thinks the call on Locklear was bogus needs to go back and watch that play again.

Haggans got around him and Locklear used his right arm to drag him.  He didn't have position and was beaten around the end.  It was a huge call, but if anyone can watch that play again and NOT see holding, they're blind.

The first one, yes it was the correct call. The second one on the pass to Stevens, absolutely horrible call. Madden even commented he couldn't see where there was holding.

And of course,if John Madden says it didn't happen,it didn't,because he's never wrong.

Did you see holding on that play? I didn't and it seems a lot of other non-partisan people watching the game didn't either.

 

[Steelers4Life]

ANYONE who thinks the call on Locklear was bogus needs to go back and watch that play again.

Haggans got around him and Locklear used his right arm to drag him.  He didn't have position and was beaten around the end.  It was a huge call, but if anyone can watch that play again and NOT see holding, they're blind.

The first one, yes it was the correct call. The second one on the pass to Stevens, absolutely horrible call. Madden even commented he couldn't see where there was holding.

I'm talking about the 2nd one, and it was Locklear's right arm that dragged down Haggans because Haggans beat him to the outside. No matter what Madden said immediately after the play, it's clear on the replays. I just watched it again.

 

[jurb26]

Lofa = Class act.

 

[Popinski]

Just watched that PI call several times. I think it's a bad call. Jackson extends his arm, yes, but I don't see him pushing off. There was barely any contact between his hand and the defender. The defender's arms first get tangled with Jackson's and then Jackson is trying to free himself of the defender.

I've seen plenty worse, even in front of the official, that isn't called OPI. You have to let them play that out, the defender made contact earlier in the route too. Also, the ref didn't reach for the flag until after Jackson caught the TD.

But, at the most, it cost Seattle 4 points. The one that stands out is the holding call and subsequent blocking call on Hasselbeck which potentially resulted in a 14 point swing.

 

[greenroom]

ANYONE who thinks the call on Locklear was bogus needs to go back and watch that play again.

Haggans got around him and Locklear used his right arm to drag him.  He didn't have position and was beaten around the end.  It was a huge call, but if anyone can watch that play again and NOT see holding, they're blind.

The first one, yes it was the correct call. The second one on the pass to Stevens, absolutely horrible call. Madden even commented he couldn't see where there was holding.

And of course,if John Madden says it didn't happen,it didn't,because he's never wrong.

Umm when you see the highlight trying to point out the holding and you cannot find a hold then yes it did not happen and it was a bad call.