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Super Bowl XLVIII - Date could move.... (1 Viewer)

It's also interesting how the thinking on this has changed over the decades. When the SB was in Detroit in a dome, the NFL said never again because it was below zero and all the corporate people complained it was too cold to leave their hotels. Then I remember when the Georgia dome was built, part of the justification for the dome in a relatively mild climate was to get to host the Super Bowl. Inclement weather that would affect travel in Atlanta is pretty rare and short-lived in any event. Suddenly it's okay to subject all those billionaires to cold weather and potential snow and inconvenience.

I don't think it's a huge deal at the end of the day, just interesting how the thinking has changed. And that future sites will probably be determined in part by whether or not there is a major storm in NY on Feb. 2, 2014. Human reasoning doesn't always make sense.

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Koya said:
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Dear North: Enjoy your one and only Super Bowl.

ETA: OUTDOOR Super Bowl.
We will.Mostly because we are real football fans and not a bunch of #######.
Hey, I'm from the North, too. My point was that this has seemingly created enough of a headache already that I am willing to bet that it will not be considered again for a very long time.
I hear ya, but as noted most of this concern is about logistics, not the game itself. Indy or Detroit could get an arctic push and a huge blizzard just as if not more easily than the NY area and no one was acting all scared for those SBs

 
What would be really nice for Goodell is to have day like the one in the playoffs between the Bears and Eagles where you couldn't see the field in the fog

 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
Everybody loves the Super Bowl, and everybody loves football in the snow, yet somehow everyone hates the idea of a Super Bowl played in the snow.
Not me. It's football. It should be played outside in any type of weather, just the way God intended! I'm hoping for a huge fun football blizzard bowl!

 
Wait, is XLVIIIC the one in a week and a half, or one down the road? Who speaks Roman anymore? Let's call them by their American numbers from here on out, okay?

 
You should have heard Colin dooshheard i mean cowheard whining like a little girl today, saying it isnt fair and these players deserve better than playing in cold & snow. Really are you kidding me. Guess making millions just isn't enough.

 
bro1ncos said:
There has always been contingency plans for the Super Bowl. This is nothing new. Totally blown out of proportion.

As for the tailgating, I have talked to and heard from people that have been multiple Super Bowls and each have said they have never seen tailgating at a SB. The areas surrounding the stadium has been reserved fro corporate tents, tv trucks, etc. Again this is a non-story that is getting attention just because people are against where it is being held this year.
There is actually 1 massive Tailgate party at every SB on the grounds...mostly corporate...probably 15k people. These are all the people the NFL cares about. Presidents of beer companies, entertainers, media members, corporate partners, etc. Leaving a bad taste in their mouths won't be good for the league.

There's another disaster waiting to happen that I haven't seen mentioned much...the 'Super Bowl Alley' they are creating running from Times Square to Macys in Manhattan. There are a lot of corporate partners that planned to have a major presence and investment in that area...these guys taking a financial bath isn't going to be good for the league either.

 
bro1ncos said:
There has always been contingency plans for the Super Bowl. This is nothing new. Totally blown out of proportion.

As for the tailgating, I have talked to and heard from people that have been multiple Super Bowls and each have said they have never seen tailgating at a SB. The areas surrounding the stadium has been reserved fro corporate tents, tv trucks, etc. Again this is a non-story that is getting attention just because people are against where it is being held this year.
There is actually 1 massive Tailgate party at every SB on the grounds...mostly corporate...probably 15k people. These are all the people the NFL cares about. Presidents of beer companies, entertainers, media members, corporate partners, etc. Leaving a bad taste in their mouths won't be good for the league.There's another disaster waiting to happen that I haven't seen mentioned much...the 'Super Bowl Alley' they are creating running from Times Square to Macys in Manhattan. There are a lot of corporate partners that planned to have a major presence and investment in that area...these guys taking a financial bath isn't going to be good for the league either.
I get what you're saying, but these companies all need the NFL way more than the NFL needs them.
 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
McGarnicle said:
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
Everybody loves the Super Bowl, and everybody loves football in the snow, yet somehow everyone hates the idea of a Super Bowl played in the snow. delayed/postponed because a huge blizzard hits the area and all the highways and airports are paralyzed which is a regular occurrence in the region.
FYP
Meh, I'm a Giants season ticket holder and live ~30 minutes from the stadium. I wouldn't say it's a "regular occurrence" in the region. No one here seems to be especially worried about it.

The NFL has contingency plans, of course, just like they have contingency plans for every Super Bowl ever. The biggest issue to me with hosting a Super Bowl in NJ isn't so much the weather, it's that the stadium is kind of in no man's land so all the events leading up to game day are presumably going on in NYC or elsewhere. It doesn't have the same feel as a Super Bowl that's hosted in an actual city.
Good point. I went to the Final Four when it was at the Meadowlands in 1996 (the last time it was held in an arena) and stayed in NYC at the Marriott Marquis in Times Square, which was the tournament HQ. But it just didn't have that air of excitement, and was kind of swallowed up by everything else that is NYC (Broadway shows, etc.).

 
bro1ncos said:
There has always been contingency plans for the Super Bowl. This is nothing new. Totally blown out of proportion.

As for the tailgating, I have talked to and heard from people that have been multiple Super Bowls and each have said they have never seen tailgating at a SB. The areas surrounding the stadium has been reserved fro corporate tents, tv trucks, etc. Again this is a non-story that is getting attention just because people are against where it is being held this year.
There is actually 1 massive Tailgate party at every SB on the grounds...mostly corporate...probably 15k people. These are all the people the NFL cares about. Presidents of beer companies, entertainers, media members, corporate partners, etc. Leaving a bad taste in their mouths won't be good for the league.There's another disaster waiting to happen that I haven't seen mentioned much...the 'Super Bowl Alley' they are creating running from Times Square to Macys in Manhattan. There are a lot of corporate partners that planned to have a major presence and investment in that area...these guys taking a financial bath isn't going to be good for the league either.
I get what you're saying, but these companies all need the NFL way more than the NFL needs them.
True for the Tailgate, although still not good for the NFL's image to give all these people a poor experience.

But as for the Alley, the NFL treats these 'on site' events as individual deals outside of their normal in-season partnerships..so when they come looking for partners for the next cold weather venue...they'll be a lot tougher to find...and the NFL will then be the one losing money.

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Koya said:
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Dear North: Enjoy your one and only Super Bowl.

ETA: OUTDOOR Super Bowl.
We will.Mostly because we are real football fans and not a bunch of #######.
Hey, I'm from the North, too. My point was that this has seemingly created enough of a headache already that I am willing to bet that it will not be considered again for a very long time.
I hear ya, but as noted most of this concern is about logistics, not the game itself. Indy or Detroit could get an arctic push and a huge blizzard just as if not more easily than the NY area and no one was acting all scared for those SBs
The stadiums are in the major metro areas for those venues though, right? I think this one just feels fragmented.

 
Why does everyone want to POo PoO everything even before it happens. Go to the game bundled up and enjoy the atmoshphere, game, and the city. #### people these days with their #####ing and moaning.

 
You should have heard Colin dooshheard i mean cowheard whining like a little girl today, saying it isnt fair and these players deserve better than playing in cold & snow. Really are you kidding me. Guess making millions just isn't enough.
If it's snowy or even really cold and windy, and the passing game is limited, and Peyton is "robbed" of a second ring, we all know we'll never hear the end of it.

 
I love how the NFL threatened Dade County in Florida to build and overhang in the stadium after it rained in the Indy/Chi superbowl or they would never award them another SB and now they have one in NY/NJ.

I'm not against a cold weather SB, but I "get it". My thing is keep the games in the warm weather sites and let the NFL draft travel to all the cold weather cities from year to year.

 
The solution is really simple, build a big domed stadium in Las Vegas.

It has the appropriate number of hotel rooms to accommodate the fans. It has a decent infrastructure of taxis, trolleys and shuttles to get people around. I have been there a ton of times and the airport is easy to get in and out of, They have a large selection of rent a cars.

No worry about the weather.

I know the league wouldn't like the whole gambling aspect of it, but come on, next to March Madness, this has to be one of the biggest wagered on event out there.

 
The solution is really simple, build a big domed stadium in Las Vegas.

It has the appropriate number of hotel rooms to accommodate the fans. It has a decent infrastructure of taxis, trolleys and shuttles to get people around. I have been there a ton of times and the airport is easy to get in and out of, They have a large selection of rent a cars.

No worry about the weather.

I know the league wouldn't like the whole gambling aspect of it, but come on, next to March Madness, this has to be one of the biggest wagered on event out there.
That would be amazing.

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Koya said:
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Dear North: Enjoy your one and only Super Bowl.

ETA: OUTDOOR Super Bowl.
We will.Mostly because we are real football fans and not a bunch of #######.
Hey, I'm from the North, too. My point was that this has seemingly created enough of a headache already that I am willing to bet that it will not be considered again for a very long time.
I hear ya, but as noted most of this concern is about logistics, not the game itself. Indy or Detroit could get an arctic push and a huge blizzard just as if not more easily than the NY area and no one was acting all scared for those SBs
The stadiums are in the major metro areas for those venues though, right? I think this one just feels fragmented.
Valid point, but that has nothing to do with scary ol' man winter

 
The solution is really simple, build a big domed stadium in Las Vegas.

It has the appropriate number of hotel rooms to accommodate the fans. It has a decent infrastructure of taxis, trolleys and shuttles to get people around. I have been there a ton of times and the airport is easy to get in and out of, They have a large selection of rent a cars.

No worry about the weather.

I know the league wouldn't like the whole gambling aspect of it, but come on, next to March Madness, this has to be one of the biggest wagered on event out there.
Why a dome?

 
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Koya said:
ClownCausedChaos2 said:
Dear North: Enjoy your one and only Super Bowl.

ETA: OUTDOOR Super Bowl.
We will.Mostly because we are real football fans and not a bunch of #######.
Hey, I'm from the North, too. My point was that this has seemingly created enough of a headache already that I am willing to bet that it will not be considered again for a very long time.
I hear ya, but as noted most of this concern is about logistics, not the game itself. Indy or Detroit could get an arctic push and a huge blizzard just as if not more easily than the NY area and no one was acting all scared for those SBs
The stadiums are in the major metro areas for those venues though, right? I think this one just feels fragmented.
Valid point, but that has nothing to do with scary ol' man winter
I think it is relevant as far as travel to the game and other events for fans.

 
McGarnicle said:
bro1ncos said:
There has always been contingency plans for the Super Bowl. This is nothing new. Totally blown out of proportion.

As for the tailgating, I have talked to and heard from people that have been multiple Super Bowls and each have said they have never seen tailgating at a SB. The areas surrounding the stadium has been reserved fro corporate tents, tv trucks, etc. Again this is a non-story that is getting attention just because people are against where it is being held this year.
I'm a Giants fan and I thought it was stunningly asinine from the moment they announced it. Really bad storms happen with regularity up there this time of year. If I still lived up there, I'd be going to all the events and I'm sure I'd be proud that the city is hosting the event. But the risk and potential downside is so huge IMO that it should not have been seriously considered.
No problem. We'll take it in Chicago, and we won't ##### about it either.
 
The solution is really simple, build a big domed stadium in Las Vegas.

It has the appropriate number of hotel rooms to accommodate the fans. It has a decent infrastructure of taxis, trolleys and shuttles to get people around. I have been there a ton of times and the airport is easy to get in and out of, They have a large selection of rent a cars.

No worry about the weather.

I know the league wouldn't like the whole gambling aspect of it, but come on, next to March Madness, this has to be one of the biggest wagered on event out there.
Why a dome?
So it can be used year round for other things. When it gets to 115 decrees in the summer, you can sit in nice air-condition seats to see other events.

 
Scoresman said:
Hooper31 said:
The Commish said:
Good Grief Really?? Goodell seems to be playing the part of chicken little very well. First no tailgating/parking...now this?
Its a contingency plan. What's the problem?
Say you had airfare and hotel for specific days assuming a Sunday game, and then they move the game? Can you not see potential problems?
You should have heard Colin dooshheard i mean cowheard whining like a little girl today, saying it isnt fair and these players deserve better than playing in cold & snow. Really are you kidding me. Guess making millions just isn't enough.
The only real issue I've heard (not sure if it was on doosheard or not) was the athletes are on a schedule, and moving the game late in the process one way or another will mess with that schedule. His comment was "imagine Manning with a foot in an ice tub and screaming at him 'hey Peyton lets go, games in an hour!'" Obviously it's not going to be that short, but taking a day off their ritual(s) will be messed up.

 
Scoresman said:
Hooper31 said:
Scoresman said:
Yes they should. Football can be played in snow.

I'm not even getting into the advertising nightmare moving the game would cause. Corporations pay millions if not billions to have their ads run during the Superbowl at a specific time when they know the majority of Americans will have their butts in a sofa watching. Now imagine telling them their ad is getting played on a Monday instead, or having to sort out how much the ads they already paid for are worth on a Monday as opposed to Sunday.

There are so many factors that get affected by moving an event this large. It wont happen.
If the game is played Monday the same people are still going to see the same ads.

I agree it probably won't be moved, but #### happens. How is the news to anyone?
No they wont. The Superbowl starts at 3:30 on the west coast. People work on Mondays. Not everyone is going to take the day off. There will also certainly be a huge drop in the number of Superbowl parties on Monday. So people who normally wouldnt care about the Superbowl but watch anyway because they're at a party, suddenly aren't watching.

Point is, if it gets moved to Monday, there will be significantly less people viewing. A Saturday move would also probably see lower numbers but not nearly as much.
Sure, because MNF always has bad ratings.

 
Scoresman said:
Hooper31 said:
Scoresman said:
Yes they should. Football can be played in snow.

I'm not even getting into the advertising nightmare moving the game would cause. Corporations pay millions if not billions to have their ads run during the Superbowl at a specific time when they know the majority of Americans will have their butts in a sofa watching. Now imagine telling them their ad is getting played on a Monday instead, or having to sort out how much the ads they already paid for are worth on a Monday as opposed to Sunday.

There are so many factors that get affected by moving an event this large. It wont happen.
If the game is played Monday the same people are still going to see the same ads.

I agree it probably won't be moved, but #### happens. How is the news to anyone?
No they wont. The Superbowl starts at 3:30 on the west coast. People work on Mondays. Not everyone is going to take the day off. There will also certainly be a huge drop in the number of Superbowl parties on Monday. So people who normally wouldnt care about the Superbowl but watch anyway because they're at a party, suddenly aren't watching.

Point is, if it gets moved to Monday, there will be significantly less people viewing. A Saturday move would also probably see lower numbers but not nearly as much.
Sure, because MNF always has bad ratings.
They should move it to Thursday. Never enough Thursday games!!!

 
Hooper31 said:
Scoresman said:
Yes they should. Football can be played in snow.

I'm not even getting into the advertising nightmare moving the game would cause. Corporations pay millions if not billions to have their ads run during the Superbowl at a specific time when they know the majority of Americans will have their butts in a sofa watching. Now imagine telling them their ad is getting played on a Monday instead, or having to sort out how much the ads they already paid for are worth on a Monday as opposed to Sunday.

There are so many factors that get affected by moving an event this large. It wont happen.
If the game is played Monday the same people are still going to see the same ads.
:lmao:

Roger, is that you?

 
The solution is really simple, build a big domed stadium in Las Vegas.

It has the appropriate number of hotel rooms to accommodate the fans. It has a decent infrastructure of taxis, trolleys and shuttles to get people around. I have been there a ton of times and the airport is easy to get in and out of, They have a large selection of rent a cars.

No worry about the weather.

I know the league wouldn't like the whole gambling aspect of it, but come on, next to March Madness, this has to be one of the biggest wagered on event out there.
If I may understate my thoughts, this would be a HUGE moneymaker.

 
Scoresman said:
Hooper31 said:
Scoresman said:
Yes they should. Football can be played in snow.

I'm not even getting into the advertising nightmare moving the game would cause. Corporations pay millions if not billions to have their ads run during the Superbowl at a specific time when they know the majority of Americans will have their butts in a sofa watching. Now imagine telling them their ad is getting played on a Monday instead, or having to sort out how much the ads they already paid for are worth on a Monday as opposed to Sunday.

There are so many factors that get affected by moving an event this large. It wont happen.
If the game is played Monday the same people are still going to see the same ads.

I agree it probably won't be moved, but #### happens. How is the news to anyone?
No they wont. The Superbowl starts at 3:30 on the west coast. People work on Mondays. Not everyone is going to take the day off. There will also certainly be a huge drop in the number of Superbowl parties on Monday. So people who normally wouldnt care about the Superbowl but watch anyway because they're at a party, suddenly aren't watching.

Point is, if it gets moved to Monday, there will be significantly less people viewing. A Saturday move would also probably see lower numbers but not nearly as much.
Sure, because MNF always has bad ratings.
:pics:

 
Why does everyone want to POo PoO everything even before it happens. Go to the game bundled up and enjoy the atmoshphere, game, and the city. #### people these days with their #####ing and moaning.
I don't think you understand what might happen here. Some millionaires are going to freeze their asses off. I don't know about you, but I don't want to be around when THAT happens.
 
30 degrees an 10% chance of snow, says the 10 Day forecast.

And a weeks worth of insane parties in the biggest city in the country.

What is the opposite of nightmare? That's what it's gonna be.

 
The solution is really simple, build a big domed stadium in Las Vegas.

It has the appropriate number of hotel rooms to accommodate the fans. It has a decent infrastructure of taxis, trolleys and shuttles to get people around. I have been there a ton of times and the airport is easy to get in and out of, They have a large selection of rent a cars.

No worry about the weather.

I know the league wouldn't like the whole gambling aspect of it, but come on, next to March Madness, this has to be one of the biggest wagered on event out there.
That would be amazing.
yep.

Vegas would be insane if they did this.... oh my...

 
The solution is really simple, build a big domed stadium in Las Vegas.

It has the appropriate number of hotel rooms to accommodate the fans. It has a decent infrastructure of taxis, trolleys and shuttles to get people around. I have been there a ton of times and the airport is easy to get in and out of, They have a large selection of rent a cars.

No worry about the weather.

I know the league wouldn't like the whole gambling aspect of it, but come on, next to March Madness, this has to be one of the biggest wagered on event out there.
That would be amazing.
yep.

Vegas would be insane if they did this.... oh my...
As a resident of the Sin City, I would very much be in favor of this.

 
The solution is really simple, build a big domed stadium in Las Vegas.

It has the appropriate number of hotel rooms to accommodate the fans. It has a decent infrastructure of taxis, trolleys and shuttles to get people around. I have been there a ton of times and the airport is easy to get in and out of, They have a large selection of rent a cars.

No worry about the weather.

I know the league wouldn't like the whole gambling aspect of it, but come on, next to March Madness, this has to be one of the biggest wagered on event out there.
'Solution'?

What's the problem?

 
Instead of moving the game, I'm in favor of just cancelling it all together. Then, have all of the NFL coaches vote in a poll the Top 25 teams. Whoever gets the most votes is crowned National Champion.

 
So, it's early yet, but the weather models are saying a storm could hit that weekend. The forecast will be clearer by early next week.

:popcorn:

 

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