CrossEyed
Footballguy
On the Cowboys website it still says "at least 2 weeks" but Wade didn't sound too optimistic at this mornings pc.
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T Glenn to be done for the Year! (1 Viewer)
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It is officially speculative....Yesterday the Cowboys released a statement that appeared briefly on the Cowboys website stating that Glenn was done for the year. Some time later, it was changed to "at least two games". Local morning radio hosts were suggesting that Jerry Jones wanted it changed so that other teams don't know how desperate they are when trying to acquire a replacement WR. That part is speculation. We'll see.
DoubleG
Footballguy
email down?
Penguin
Footballguy
I was under the impression that Miles Austin was looking better than Hurd this summer, more of a natural.I know absolutely nothing about this guy. I've heard his name mentioned before but if you read enough of the SP there are very few players that do NOT get mentioned. Legitimate chance to get some fantasy loving?I'm not so sure about the "faster" part.Please, tell me more.
yinzer
Footballguy
i swear he must do a bump of coke before every series or something. he looks like friggin ET or something with those eyes
Crusaderfan
Footballguy
I watched Wade's news conference on the Dallas Cowboys website and he sure seemed subdued when talking about Terry Glenn. Either Glenn is going to be out for way more than two weeks or Phillips is slightly comatose. Not getting good vibes from the video at all.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Is it confirmed that the statement did really appear (albeit briefly) or is that a rumor? My league with Glenn is the only one I'm in where Crayton is rostered. :(
Bingo.A story was available through the Cowboys and Dallas Morning News websites for approximately 30 minutes last night and early this morning, respecitvely. Each was retracted and an updated report was released.
I caught Phillips' presser on the radio this morning. Paraphasing...
Glenn has a second injury sustained in practice...one of his knees...out at least 2 weeks...sending him to get additional opinions on the injury....nothing definitive at this point....Crayton continues to return kicks...Crayton plays outside on 1st and 2nd downs...hoping for the best
videoguy505
Footballguy
Yes, the statement appeared online for a few hours. It was discussed thoroughly in the other thread.Is it confirmed that the statement did really appear (albeit briefly) or is that a rumor? My league with Glenn is the only one I'm in where Crayton is rostered.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I got this, not sure if it was posted already...
Link
Glenn Out For Season In Dallas?
September 7, 2007 5:10 AM
For at least three minutes Thursday, the Cowboys' team Web site "broke the story" that starting wide receiver Terry Glenn would miss the season after reinjuring his right knee.
A few moments later, that version of the story mysteriously vanished, and was replaced with the much more soothing headline, "Step Back: Knee injury could sideline Glenn for at least two weeks."
The fact that owner/general manager Jerry Jones was the main source for both reports may have confused a couple of readers. Did Glenn make a miraculous recovery or did Jones decide he wanted to keep the Giants in the dark for a couple more days?
In the interest of clarity, Hashmarks has learned that the original version may have been more accurate. Late Thursday night, a member of the organization told me Glenn was indeed finished for the season, but that the Cowboys decided (a little too late) to hold off on making the announcement.
Glenn's agent, Jimmy Gould, told the Dallas Morning News that no decision had been made regarding his client's status. Glenn missed all four preseason games after having a cyst removed from his right knee Aug. 1. He made it through his first full practice Wednesday, but then experienced swelling.
Glenn has only made it through a complete season three times during his 11-year career, but two of those seasons were with the Cowboys (2003 and 2005).
With Glenn out, Patrick Crayton becomes the second receiver. Crayton probably has the best hands on the team, but he lacks Glenn's speed and quickness. Sam Hurd and Miles Austin are next in line, but I'm sure scouting chief Jeff Ireland and his staff will be on the lookout for a veteran.
Stay with us throughout the day for more details.
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Glenn Out For Season In Dallas?
September 7, 2007 5:10 AM
For at least three minutes Thursday, the Cowboys' team Web site "broke the story" that starting wide receiver Terry Glenn would miss the season after reinjuring his right knee.
A few moments later, that version of the story mysteriously vanished, and was replaced with the much more soothing headline, "Step Back: Knee injury could sideline Glenn for at least two weeks."
The fact that owner/general manager Jerry Jones was the main source for both reports may have confused a couple of readers. Did Glenn make a miraculous recovery or did Jones decide he wanted to keep the Giants in the dark for a couple more days?
In the interest of clarity, Hashmarks has learned that the original version may have been more accurate. Late Thursday night, a member of the organization told me Glenn was indeed finished for the season, but that the Cowboys decided (a little too late) to hold off on making the announcement.
Glenn's agent, Jimmy Gould, told the Dallas Morning News that no decision had been made regarding his client's status. Glenn missed all four preseason games after having a cyst removed from his right knee Aug. 1. He made it through his first full practice Wednesday, but then experienced swelling.
Glenn has only made it through a complete season three times during his 11-year career, but two of those seasons were with the Cowboys (2003 and 2005).
With Glenn out, Patrick Crayton becomes the second receiver. Crayton probably has the best hands on the team, but he lacks Glenn's speed and quickness. Sam Hurd and Miles Austin are next in line, but I'm sure scouting chief Jeff Ireland and his staff will be on the lookout for a veteran.
Stay with us throughout the day for more details.
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Insoxicated
Perhaps Crayton hasn't been a deep threat because he's been stuck in the slot... not because he's incapable of filling that role in an acceptable manner? Nobody's saying he's gonna pass Wayne or Housh as the best #2's in the game... just that he is likely a 1000/7-8 guy if Glenn is indeed done.
videoguy505
Footballguy
Only 3 or 4 times.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
McCardell: Been with Wade Philips over in San Diego...could be signed just as a 3rd or 4th WR for the Cowboys.
Antonio Bryant: Floating around somewhere out there.
They could make a trade for another WR but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
I think the Cowboys would still be OK with Crayton and Hurd behnd the awesome TO. Owens might want to start renogotiating his contract NOW!
Antonio Bryant: Floating around somewhere out there.
They could make a trade for another WR but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
I think the Cowboys would still be OK with Crayton and Hurd behnd the awesome TO. Owens might want to start renogotiating his contract NOW!
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BusMan
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From....us?
ESPN Insider Link
Cowboys coach Bill Parcells made an interesting revelation about the injury to wide receiver Terry Glenn. Glenn missed his second day of practice with what is reported as a quad injury. Parcells revealed during his Thursday press conference that Glenn has a bone-on-bone condition in the back of one of his knees.
Because the injury was at the back of the knee, Parcells was technically being honest by saying the problem area was near the quad.
Bone-on-bone conditions can only be repaired by microfracture surgeries, but those procedures are done as a last resort. Glenn can play through this injury even though it's painful. If he doesn't practice Friday, though, he may have to miss the Arizona game.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Really, which post #s in this thread cause I must have missed where it was pasted in here.videoguy505 said:
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Bone on bone...not good. Thanks BusmanFrom....us?
ESPN Insider Link
Cowboys coach Bill Parcells made an interesting revelation about the injury to wide receiver Terry Glenn. Glenn missed his second day of practice with what is reported as a quad injury. Parcells revealed during his Thursday press conference that Glenn has a bone-on-bone condition in the back of one of his knees.
Because the injury was at the back of the knee, Parcells was technically being honest by saying the problem area was near the quad.
Bone-on-bone conditions can only be repaired by microfracture surgeries, but those procedures are done as a last resort. Glenn can play through this injury even though it's painful. If he doesn't practice Friday, though, he may have to miss the Arizona game.
videoguy505
Footballguy
Well that's what you get for only reading the :honda: thread and not the original.
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LordOpie
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How many of y'all picked up Crayton in hopes of packaging him in a trade in a week or two?
Tong Po
Footballguy
Well for starters... how does losing a WR who tallied 1,000 yards and 6 TDs last year have no effect on Tony Romo?redman said:Why?Tong Po said:Not sure how losing a rock solid WR like Glenn would give EVERYBODY in the passing game a bump.Somebody has to suffer.KellysHeroes said:I disagree with dropping Romo at all... last season; he didn't even look at Glenn. everything else is[icon] said:
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Maybe the guy who replaces him will play better.Well for starters... how does losing a WR who tallied 1,000 yards and 6 TDs last year have no effect on Tony Romo?redman said:Why?Tong Po said:Not sure how losing a rock solid WR like Glenn would give EVERYBODY in the passing game a bump.Somebody has to suffer.KellysHeroes said:I disagree with dropping Romo at all... last season; he didn't even look at Glenn. everything else is[icon] said:
yinzer
Footballguy
I'd say dropping Romo 2-3 TDs and about 400 yards is reasonable (IF Glenn is out for the season). We still don't know if he is, as well as if/who they bring in to replace himThis is really making meWell for starters... how does losing a WR who tallied 1,000 yards and 6 TDs last year have no effect on Tony Romo?redman said:Why?Tong Po said:Not sure how losing a rock solid WR like Glenn would give EVERYBODY in the passing game a bump.Somebody has to suffer.KellysHeroes said:I disagree with dropping Romo at all... last season; he didn't even look at Glenn. everything else is[icon] said:
that I picked him over Kitna because I have Roy W and Kitna's INT #'shmm...I might just offer up Romo for Kitna straight up right now before that guy hears about this stuff
Tong Po
Footballguy
Am I the only one in this thread who actually watched Terry Glenn play the past 2 years?He looked pretty good to me.Maybe the guy who replaces him will play better.Well for starters... how does losing a WR who tallied 1,000 yards and 6 TDs last year have no effect on Tony Romo?redman said:Why?Tong Po said:Not sure how losing a rock solid WR like Glenn would give EVERYBODY in the passing game a bump.Somebody has to suffer.KellysHeroes said:I disagree with dropping Romo at all... last season; he didn't even look at Glenn. everything else is[icon] said:
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
Who was that NE Pats WR who got cut?..He be nice on Dallas..Even if Glenn is out 2-4 weeks he's not going to be the same or in shape!
CrossEyed
Footballguy
I didn't say he wasn't good. I said maybe Crayton will play better.Am I the only one in this thread who actually watched Terry Glenn play the past 2 years?He looked pretty good to me.Maybe the guy who replaces him will play better.Well for starters... how does losing a WR who tallied 1,000 yards and 6 TDs last year have no effect on Tony Romo?redman said:Why?Tong Po said:Not sure how losing a rock solid WR like Glenn would give EVERYBODY in the passing game a bump.Somebody has to suffer.KellysHeroes said:I disagree with dropping Romo at all... last season; he didn't even look at Glenn. everything else is[icon] said:
Alias
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Reche Caldwell
CrossEyed
Footballguy
You forgot
ThePittbully
Footballguy
In a 16 team league I have TO, Crayton, and Witten. Im liking this news 
redman
Footballguy
Wow, you mean they're only going to be playing with 10 guys now? None of the other players are capable of catching even a single additional pass? Oh, and because I had Romo last year I also know that Glenn dropped from being a primary receiving option with Bledsoe to only the 3rd option behind Witten when Romo was in the lineup. I've always been a Crayton supporter, but I don't think he'll simply step in and get Glenn's numbers (and BTW those numbers are actually fairly modest, no?). I think you bump TO and Witten, and Crayton more or less gets the rest.Well for starters... how does losing a WR who tallied 1,000 yards and 6 TDs last year have no effect on Tony Romo?redman said:Why?Tong Po said:Not sure how losing a rock solid WR like Glenn would give EVERYBODY in the passing game a bump.Somebody has to suffer.KellysHeroes said:I disagree with dropping Romo at all... last season; he didn't even look at Glenn. everything else is[icon] said:
I just heard Mickey Spagnolia, a writer who runs the Dallas Cowboys website, and he stated the following on a local radio station:
1) The MRI done yesterday revealed that Glenn has torn cartilage in his knee. This is a NEW injury. The injury that Glenn has been recovering from during the preseason is a cyst that was removed from the knee
2) Spagnolia said that they initially ran with the "Glenn will miss the season" on the Cowboy's website because they were told by a close representative from the organization that the injury is season ending. A few minutes later they received a call back from the rep stating that "the MRI looks very bad", but that they aren't "positive" he will miss the entire season at this time.
FYI - Spagnolia has worked for the Cowboys organization for years. He is very credible.
Whether or not Glenn misses the season I think it's safe to say he will be out for quite some time.
1) The MRI done yesterday revealed that Glenn has torn cartilage in his knee. This is a NEW injury. The injury that Glenn has been recovering from during the preseason is a cyst that was removed from the knee
2) Spagnolia said that they initially ran with the "Glenn will miss the season" on the Cowboy's website because they were told by a close representative from the organization that the injury is season ending. A few minutes later they received a call back from the rep stating that "the MRI looks very bad", but that they aren't "positive" he will miss the entire season at this time.
FYI - Spagnolia has worked for the Cowboys organization for years. He is very credible.
Whether or not Glenn misses the season I think it's safe to say he will be out for quite some time.
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Tong Po
Footballguy
Well if Crayton was capable of outplaying Glenn, I would imagine he would have ousted him from his starting spot in the lineup at some point in the past 2 years.This started off as a discussion on who to DROP and who to BUMP based on Terry Glenn being out for the season. My point is, I don't see how Romo can be expected to put up BETTER numbers with no Terry Glenn at his disposal. And I believe logic dictates that he deserves a slight downgrade for the simple fact that he is losing a reliable pass target in Glenn, which is being replaced by an unproven player in Crayton.I didn't say he wasn't good. I said maybe Crayton will play better.Am I the only one in this thread who actually watched Terry Glenn play the past 2 years?He looked pretty good to me.Maybe the guy who replaces him will play better.Well for starters... how does losing a WR who tallied 1,000 yards and 6 TDs last year have no effect on Tony Romo?redman said:Why?Tong Po said:Not sure how losing a rock solid WR like Glenn would give EVERYBODY in the passing game a bump.Somebody has to suffer.KellysHeroes said:I disagree with dropping Romo at all... last season; he didn't even look at Glenn. everything else is[icon] said:
Dought Man
Footballguy
Right, why would you bump everyone else in the offense and drop Romo a little bit? Who is going to be throwing those guys the ball... Marion Barber?KellysHeroes said:I disagree with dropping Romo at all... last season; he didn't even look at Glenn. everything else is[icon] said:
CrossEyed
Footballguy
I really don't understand this thinking. Do younger players not get better as they gain experience? So a 2nd and 3rd year receiver couldn't beat out a veteran. That doesn't men he can never become as good or better than that veteran.
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yinzer
Footballguy
This seems to be the best info I've seen/heard from anywhere. If he has torn cartilage or a torn meniscus, AND needs surgery, I believe that would in all liklihood end his season, at least 10-12 games but he would still need to rehab and get into game shape.Crayton seems like he should be a solid pickup now...but I'd have to drop KJ or Tatum to get him...
Tong Po
Footballguy
I'm not saying its impossible that Crayton could be better than Glenn in that offense. Just saying it's not likely.If you want me to explain my thinking.... I don't think Crayton is as good as Glenn. That's just my opinion. But hey if you feel confident with Crayton, I'm happy for you. Pick the kid up and ride him to a title.
flufhed
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Where was this a honda thread? It's like 88 posts already.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Crayton is not on the WW in any of my leagues.
The WW pick up IMO is now Sam Hurd, who I also have on a couple of rosters and was thinking about cutting. Hurd will slide into the slot on 3rd down now and could make a run at what Crayton has been able to do the past 2 seasons.
Crayton is not a lock to post Glenn like numbers. Parcells did not even want to start him anywhere else but in the slot. I'm just saying.
The WW pick up IMO is now Sam Hurd, who I also have on a couple of rosters and was thinking about cutting. Hurd will slide into the slot on 3rd down now and could make a run at what Crayton has been able to do the past 2 seasons.
Crayton is not a lock to post Glenn like numbers. Parcells did not even want to start him anywhere else but in the slot. I'm just saying.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Post 45 - try to keep up here, sparky.You forgot
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Perhaps romo throws more interceptions due to not being as in sync with Crayton as he was with GlennPerhaps romo has to press more balls in through tighter coverage on Owens since Crayton might be a step down from Glenn Perhaps the yards/TDs that Glenn would have caught might not all be distributed as Passes anymore?Perhaps Dallas might be a little more inclined to run the ball in from the red zone You realize it IS possible to take 900/7 and drop it... split it among whiten and crayton..and still have Romo with slightly lowered production, don't you? Not saying any of these are fact.. but the above scenario is QUITE plausible under the current cicumstances if Glenn is in fact done.Right, why would you bump everyone else in the offense and drop Romo a little bit? Who is going to be throwing those guys the ball... Marion Barber?KellysHeroes said:I disagree with dropping Romo at all... last season; he didn't even look at Glenn. everything else is[icon] said:
yinzer
Footballguy
So how far do you go to get Crayton off the WW if he's on their in your league?
I'm considering dropping my RB5/6 Tatum for him but am thinking thats probably not wise despite lacking WR depth.
I think if I had a guy like Bruce, Porter, Moose, or Furrey I'd drop them, but if I had a Curtis, Hackett, or Marshall I'd probably hold onto them.
I think its somewhat easier if you're going to drop a WR to get him..esp if you got a lot of bench space (but if you do, i'd assume he's probably not on the WW)
damn my 6 man bench!
I'm considering dropping my RB5/6 Tatum for him but am thinking thats probably not wise despite lacking WR depth.
I think if I had a guy like Bruce, Porter, Moose, or Furrey I'd drop them, but if I had a Curtis, Hackett, or Marshall I'd probably hold onto them.
I think its somewhat easier if you're going to drop a WR to get him..esp if you got a lot of bench space (but if you do, i'd assume he's probably not on the WW)
damn my 6 man bench!
videoguy505
Footballguy
disagree with dropping I. Bruce for P. Crayton at this juncture.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
100% agree with this. Bruce was one of the most overlooked WR in every draft this year, be it dynasty, expert, guppie, that guy was just forgotten about.
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1) Glenn isn't 100% sure to be done yet2) Crayton does not have the same skillset as Bruce
3) Bruce, given Holt's dinged-up-nature, will still be a focal point of the Rams offense.
Crayton's UPSIDE is around Bruce's expected output.
EDIT: and I'd like to add that I'm one of the bigger pimpers of Crayton around here if you look a little. Guy COULD go off to the tune of 1000/8 but given Glenn's uncertainty and possible competition for the WR2 slot, Crayton's projection IMHO is around 700/5 with upside.
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LordHusker
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Crayton will be used inside the 20s.How does this affect Julius Jones?
videoguy505
Footballguy
2) Crayton does not have the same skillset as Bruce
3) Bruce, given Holt's dinged-up-nature, will still be a focal point of the Rams offense.
Crayton's UPSIDE is around Bruce's expected output.
Although I feel pressured at times being such a good drafter that I end up with guys like Bruce as my WR4. I don't have room to drop guys to pick up the "flash in the pan" that may, someday, pan out. It's how the guppies catch up as the season goes along, they can afford to drop their wasted draft picks and pick up Week 1 guys like Crayton, or Anquan Boldin and Marques Colston in years past. 9 times out of 10 they end up with a guy who was a week 1 wonder, but, every once and I while I sniffle when thinking if I didn't have a guaranteed WR30 as my 4th guy, I could have dropped him for a breakout.
