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Tajae Sharpe WR Titans (4 Viewers)
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JoeSteeler
Footballguy
sorry - it was 1.12, 1.16 and 1.16
1.16 - Myles Jack and Deion Jones went 1.14 and 1.15
1.12 - None
1.16 - Bosa at 1.13
Stealthycat
Footballguy
I was just saying ... the hype is getting a little crazy (dropping White for Sharpe) ..... I'm thinking 50-750-4 or something like that, WR3 numbers
preseason isn't real season
preseason isn't real season
kutta
Footballguy
Keep in mind that a lot of people play dynasty leagues so it's alwasy good to hear about a late-round standout rookies who might turn into something down the road. Some of the hype is being driven by that.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
2.06 & 3.09Amused to Death said:
NeverEnough
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pennystock
Footballguy
He was just picked at 8.01 in a MFL 
I like him this year but that is way too rich. Was picked ahead of T. Austin, T. Smith, C. Coleman, M. Thomas...
I like him this year but that is way too rich. Was picked ahead of T. Austin, T. Smith, C. Coleman, M. Thomas...pantherclub
Footballguy
I like him way better than T Austin.
The Hank
Footballguy
Thats nutsHe was just picked at 8.01 in a MFL
Manster
Footballguy
He looks to be Mariotas guy.....he looked great against the Carolina 1st team D.....I like in redraft a lot.....I love him in dynasty.He was just picked at 8.01 in a MFL
Chaka
Footballguy
It seems early but I don't have much problem with him being ahead of those guys.He was just picked at 8.01 in a MFL
Austin is a low volume player on a bottom 5 offense and is coming off of a career year for TDs. It's highly doubtful he gets anywhere near 10 TDs again in his career.
T.Smith is a go-route only player but has Captain Checkdown as his QB.
C.Coleman hasn't even been on the field and when he gets there will have 3 legitimate competitors for targets on a run fist team.
M.Thomas is the new flavor of the month in N.O., we talk about the next emerging WR in N.O. every single year and it rarely plays out that way.
In a dynasty format I could see taking Coleman over Sharpe but he's the only one. For as good as Thomas may, or may not, be he is only going to have maybe two years with Brees playing at an elite level. Sharpe and Mariota could be together for a decade.
pennystock
Footballguy
Wow, was expecting a lot more responses like The Hank's than people defending that pick. I get the love, all the buzz has been very positive so far. But in my opinion 8.01 is wayyyy too early, even if you think he will outperform people like T. Austin (which while possible I personally think is unlikely barring injury). In the range of possibilities you are picking him I believe at his absolute peak value. In another MFL I'm in he is still available and we're at the 10/11 turn.
Remember Agholor last year? Was similar situation IIRC, rookie WR, got a lot of buzz in camp, had a really good preseason game. I get that they are different and I'm not saying Sharpe will end up the same way but the risk is absolutely there and has to be factored into his price. T. Austin finished at WR28 last year in PPR and is still young enough where you can expect to see further development. I especially like him in MFLs because you don't have to figure out which weeks are boom vs. bust. T. Smith is similar and in a much better situation this year with Chip Kelly I believe, with very few other options. C. Coleman and M. Thomas are probably the most comparable and I'm probably a bit biased there based on where they were all drafted.
Anyway, again, not saying Sharpe will be bad this year at all, in fact I already have drafted him in 4 completed MFLs when he was going much later. Considering the rick/reward I like him as a late round flier and probably wouldn't consider him until probably the 13th or so...which I guess means I won't be getting him anymore
Remember Agholor last year? Was similar situation IIRC, rookie WR, got a lot of buzz in camp, had a really good preseason game. I get that they are different and I'm not saying Sharpe will end up the same way but the risk is absolutely there and has to be factored into his price. T. Austin finished at WR28 last year in PPR and is still young enough where you can expect to see further development. I especially like him in MFLs because you don't have to figure out which weeks are boom vs. bust. T. Smith is similar and in a much better situation this year with Chip Kelly I believe, with very few other options. C. Coleman and M. Thomas are probably the most comparable and I'm probably a bit biased there based on where they were all drafted.
Anyway, again, not saying Sharpe will be bad this year at all, in fact I already have drafted him in 4 completed MFLs when he was going much later. Considering the rick/reward I like him as a late round flier and probably wouldn't consider him until probably the 13th or so...which I guess means I won't be getting him anymore
Stealthycat
Footballguy
that's what I meant when I said now the sneak play is WR Mathews .... the Sharpe hype has taken him to beyond what his value truly is, switch towards the guy now UNDERvalued ..... Mathews
The Hank
Footballguy
I'm very much willing to pull the trigger at the 10/11 turn but as much as I think the guy will do well this year, I can't invest a 8 in him where there are other guys like Corey Coleman, Devin Funchess or Tyler Boyd readily available.pennystock said:Wow, was expecting a lot more responses like The Hank's than people defending that pick. I get the love, all the buzz has been very positive so far. But in my opinion 8.01 is wayyyy too early, even if you think he will outperform people like T. Austin (which while possible I personally think is unlikely barring injury). In the range of possibilities you are picking him I believe at his absolute peak value. In another MFL I'm in he is still available and we're at the 10/11 turn.
Remember Agholor last year? Was similar situation IIRC, rookie WR, got a lot of buzz in camp, had a really good preseason game. I get that they are different and I'm not saying Sharpe will end up the same way but the risk is absolutely there and has to be factored into his price. T. Austin finished at WR28 last year in PPR and is still young enough where you can expect to see further development. I especially like him in MFLs because you don't have to figure out which weeks are boom vs. bust. T. Smith is similar and in a much better situation this year with Chip Kelly I believe, with very few other options. C. Coleman and M. Thomas are probably the most comparable and I'm probably a bit biased there based on where they were all drafted.
Anyway, again, not saying Sharpe will be bad this year at all, in fact I already have drafted him in 4 completed MFLs when he was going much later. Considering the rick/reward I like him as a late round flier and probably wouldn't consider him until probably the 13th or so...which I guess means I won't be getting him anymore
Franknbeans
Footballguy
I took him @ 14.09 in the IBL (18 rounds, 12 teams)
I think the problem with 8 is you don't want a WR there. Many of us have switched away from stud RB drafting and have two early WRs. The cupboard starts to get bare in round 8 while QBs, TEs (and if you're one of those for top D and top K) seem like better picks.
Funchess didn't do squat last year. You could surely see an argument that someone likes Sharpe better. He looked good in preseason, very hard to bring down but Ginn is still a game breaker and they gotta go to him X amount of times to see if he'll break one.
I don't see Boyd getting much love when Eifert returns. I haven't checked on his injury in a while. A team that has a RB for big passing plays doesn't usually use the 3rd WR too too much.
I like Coleman a ton.
As I see it, these are all rookies (Funchess still is, til he does something to prove he's not) and it's all opinion. I like this guy better no I like that guy. I don't think there's a right and wrong here.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
I suppose that might be a better drop than White. Sort of depends on in Steve Smith is able to play a lot this season and how that might affect Aiken's opportunity.
I kind of see Sharpe and Aiken as a wash. Either could have a better season. Aiken is more established.
You could try to make a 2 for one trade to free up a roster spot for Sharpe as another alternative. To me Aiken or Sharpe is a toss up.
pennystock
Footballguy
My point is 8.01 is too early. 8.01 is the 85th pick in the draft. Using the data you just quoted and actually looking up his ADP using the same criteria he is going on average at pick 142. But go ahead and take him at 8.01, for all I know you're spot on and he'll light the world on fire. If we were talking about the end of the 12th/early 13th, I would be okay with that pick. But if people really start taking him as early as this person did, I don't think there is value in that pick.
I think your math is wrong here man, headsup
10 team 8 rounds puts him the pick at 81
12 team 8 rounds would make it 97
dipandglide
Footballguy
What is his ceiling in dynasty leagues? Mid-wr2?
pennystock
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
In my 12 team, super-flex redraft the 61st WR doesn't come off the board until rounds 15-16. I think you found one aberrant MFL draft, that may or may not have had a dynasty component, and are getting way too concerned over it.
According the the July 15th MFL data Sharpe wasn't even being drafted.
He may be appearing on more and more radars as the positive reports keep coming but I would be shocked if he averaged being drafted before the 13th round by Labor Day.
And I will reiterate the point that while 8.01 seems way too early (unless there is some kind of dynasty) but I have no problem with him coming off the board before the other stiffs you mentioned.
Oh wow, oops7 full rounds X 12 picks per round = 84 + 1 for first pick in the eighth round = 85? One of us should be really embarrassed Bri, let me know who's got it wrong
CheeseCurds
Footballguy
pennystock
Footballguy
Dude, I'm more than happy to let someone have this guy at 8.01, just thought it was a good example of how the hype on a player can go too far. Not dynasty, draft only best ball league. Cheers.
pennystock
Footballguy
miqws
Footballguy
Sharpe went early second in my draft, I had him mid/late second on my board. To me Sharpe is the kind of player that needs a higher end QB, Mariota is not there yet but I am higher on Mariota than most.
Noah Davis
Footballguy
Sorry six of 10 attempts by Mariotta were at Worley.. I never discredited Sharpe. I said Worley had a bad game, I think it should be taken into account the Panthers are starting rookies at CB. That doesn't mean Sharpe didn't play well, I was just trying to illustrate he wasn't going against Tillman/Norman of last year.
Net effect is still the same - I wouldn't drop Kevin White for him.
http://blackandbluereview.com/daryl-worley-unimpressed-way-played/
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Otis
Footballguy
Coach Otis absolutely loving this guy. Had to include some misdirection in this thread to this point, but here's what the Hawks really feel about him.
Write-up from this morning:
Write-up from this morning:
Otis
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I agree that is probably what they want to do on paper, but I don't think their team is good enough to do that. I think they will be playing from behind enough that the passing game will be fine as well.
Their passing game wasn't so great last year under the same circumstances. Also the run game will be better this year.
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msommer
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abbottjamesr
Footballguy
I don't understand this. If this were true wouldn't there be a single Titan WR in the top 36 WR's in ADP? The cardinals have 3 WR's in the top 36 and a RB that people are projecting to have 60 receptions yet Palmer only averaged 3 more throws per game than Marriota last season. The least passing teams in the league last year averaged 27.1 and 27.9 attempts per game. Lets say the Titans are run heavy to a level not seen in recent times and they only pass 25 times per game, who are all these mouths to feed. Walker will get some and Murray will get a couple per game and then.... So far this preseason Sharpe looks like the WR1 by a long shot. Did Andre Johnson find the fountain of youth?
I don't think Sharpe will push for WR2 numbers but I can see him being a WR3 or Flex play by mid season.
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Milkman
Footballguy
Wright hasn't even played yet. Meh Sharp is the type of player and situation I try and avoid. If you'd like to draft him and think you can pick which games he's going to pop. Go for it.
kutta
Footballguy
But we're taking about a 14th round pick here. There's not much risk in taking him and seeing what happens.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
And Wright has gotten worse every year he's been in the league. He's the third fiddle at WR at best (I say this as a Wright dynasty owner). He's not going to magically bump Sharpe out of the lineup.
Milkman
Footballguy
What's his upside? WR3? No thanks. You'll never feel good about starting him after he has 3 games in a row with 2-3 targets. I'll grab a TE flyer or back up RB in a good situation.
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