TLEF316
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So long story somewhat short.....I was less than 100% happy at my current job for a variety of reasons. I've been there for just over 5 years. I'm having a huge year this year from a production stand point (due in part to a change in our philosophy. We've gotten a lot more aggressive) after a not-so-good year last year and I'm on track for a pretty significant bonus and some pretty big accolades. That being said, I basically have all the responsibilities and technical skills of a "senior" version of my current position but haven't been given that title yet. (mostly due to my sub-par production year last year)
About a month ago, I noticed that my previous employer (who I left about 5 years ago after they closed our office) had an opening. I decided it was a good time to look around a little bit, interviewed and got an offer this morning. We went back and forth a little bit, but they finally came to the table with what amounts to a 30% raise off my current salary plus a 20% signing bonus (again, based on my current salary). The thought process behind that bonus was that they recognize that I'd be leaving behind a really big number (possible like 150% of that signing bonus depending on how the rest of the year goes) to jump ship now.
I approached my current employer this morning with the recruiting company's initial offer (they've gone up a bit since then with minimal prodding). My boss' boss (my direct report isn't very strong) came back and offered me like a 13% raise on my current salary (which still comes in like 13 racks short of the competing offer). No other incentives or concessions and he claims that's all he can do without bumping me up a pay band (which he claims he can't do based on my poor 2014) Although he insisted that I'm on track for the promotion if I keep doing what I'm doing, he can't make any promises. His boss (our branch manager) also pulled me into his office this afternoon and gave me the hard sell on staying. Insisted that I come back to him If I get to the point where I'm leaning towards leaving. Makes me think there's a little bit more $$ available if I want it.
At the end of the day, there are pros and cons to both jobs. The current job has a shorter commute (although neither one is bad), the familiarity of my current role and accounts and greater advancement opportunity long term (Our home office is here and there are plenty of potential job openings down the road). The new role is obviously a lot more $$$ and a potentially better manager (although the woman I'd be reporting to hasn't impressed me too much so far). Also, the fact that they're willing to offer me so much more $$ makes me think that they really want me.
I'm someone who tends to be pretty loyal and I'd hate to basically throw away these 6 months of busting my ### to move some place new. If I move, the rest of the year is basically a throw-away and I have to start from scratch next year with no relationships and the "new guy" book of potential customers. It could take a while before I'm producing at a high level again.
So I'm still not sure which way I'm leaning, but my uncle (Who is a CEO of a pretty big company and whose business judgement I trust) made a point about taking the counter offer (if I decide to do that). He feels that if I do that, I'll always be "that guy" who just took an interview to leverage a few extra bucks. He thinks that it will always be held against me going forward (and will probably lower the raise I hopefully get next year if I earn my promotion). He feels that it will establish me as the guy who's just in it for the money and doesn't really care about anything else.
I don't want to be that guy (and really don't NEED the extra money. My initial decision to look around was based on other factors) but its a big raise to pass up. Barring a jump to management, it could be like 5-6 years before I get to this pay level at my current position.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Really struggling with this one. I don't like change and I was really hoping they'd bring a little more to the table in terms of a counter. They've had a ton of turnover (we're already looking to fill a spot and had to go external to the lack of quality internal candidates) and can't really afford to lose my production and experience.
About a month ago, I noticed that my previous employer (who I left about 5 years ago after they closed our office) had an opening. I decided it was a good time to look around a little bit, interviewed and got an offer this morning. We went back and forth a little bit, but they finally came to the table with what amounts to a 30% raise off my current salary plus a 20% signing bonus (again, based on my current salary). The thought process behind that bonus was that they recognize that I'd be leaving behind a really big number (possible like 150% of that signing bonus depending on how the rest of the year goes) to jump ship now.
I approached my current employer this morning with the recruiting company's initial offer (they've gone up a bit since then with minimal prodding). My boss' boss (my direct report isn't very strong) came back and offered me like a 13% raise on my current salary (which still comes in like 13 racks short of the competing offer). No other incentives or concessions and he claims that's all he can do without bumping me up a pay band (which he claims he can't do based on my poor 2014) Although he insisted that I'm on track for the promotion if I keep doing what I'm doing, he can't make any promises. His boss (our branch manager) also pulled me into his office this afternoon and gave me the hard sell on staying. Insisted that I come back to him If I get to the point where I'm leaning towards leaving. Makes me think there's a little bit more $$ available if I want it.
At the end of the day, there are pros and cons to both jobs. The current job has a shorter commute (although neither one is bad), the familiarity of my current role and accounts and greater advancement opportunity long term (Our home office is here and there are plenty of potential job openings down the road). The new role is obviously a lot more $$$ and a potentially better manager (although the woman I'd be reporting to hasn't impressed me too much so far). Also, the fact that they're willing to offer me so much more $$ makes me think that they really want me.
I'm someone who tends to be pretty loyal and I'd hate to basically throw away these 6 months of busting my ### to move some place new. If I move, the rest of the year is basically a throw-away and I have to start from scratch next year with no relationships and the "new guy" book of potential customers. It could take a while before I'm producing at a high level again.
So I'm still not sure which way I'm leaning, but my uncle (Who is a CEO of a pretty big company and whose business judgement I trust) made a point about taking the counter offer (if I decide to do that). He feels that if I do that, I'll always be "that guy" who just took an interview to leverage a few extra bucks. He thinks that it will always be held against me going forward (and will probably lower the raise I hopefully get next year if I earn my promotion). He feels that it will establish me as the guy who's just in it for the money and doesn't really care about anything else.
I don't want to be that guy (and really don't NEED the extra money. My initial decision to look around was based on other factors) but its a big raise to pass up. Barring a jump to management, it could be like 5-6 years before I get to this pay level at my current position.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Really struggling with this one. I don't like change and I was really hoping they'd bring a little more to the table in terms of a counter. They've had a ton of turnover (we're already looking to fill a spot and had to go external to the lack of quality internal candidates) and can't really afford to lose my production and experience.
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