Sorry. I thought you wanted details of the how it happened.You guys aren't celebrating Tanner's success enough. For that I say shame on you.
I fear Oats will hit 300 before he hits 210. At 6'4, you could easily hit 3 bills.[/end thread]Eat less.
Unlikely. I've never been north of 245, and that's with really just letting go. 210 is far more likely.I fear Oats will hit 300 before he hits 210. At 6'4, you could easily hit 3 bills.[/end thread]Eat less.
I want it all.Sorry. I thought you wanted details of the how it happened.You guys aren't celebrating Tanner's success enough. For that I say shame on you.
That way of thinking is why you're fat.I want it all.Sorry. I thought you wanted details of the how it happened.You guys aren't celebrating Tanner's success enough. For that I say shame on you.
It only gets more difficult as we age. 3 bills may have been a little too high, I'll refine it to 275.Unlikely. I've never been north of 245, and that's with really just letting go. 210 is far more likely.I fear Oats will hit 300 before he hits 210. At 6'4, you could easily hit 3 bills.[/end thread]Eat less.
Oats
you like to gamble.
Create a weight loss contest (pre and post pics of your scale needed)
Put up $500 (or whatever) dollars. If you lose 15% (or 10%?) of your weight by whatever date you keep your 500
If you don't, you pay 500 to the person with the highest percentage of weight loss.
Can invite as many people as possible - I'd jump in, even though I'm already down 30 ell bees this year, I have a ways to go.
Nothing would motivate you more than to not pay me 500 bucks and if you hit your 15% reserve weight, you keep your dollars.
Of course everything other than the scale pics is on your honor which is tough to do with the interwebs but I know you're an honest guy.
I'm a complete moron....![]()
It's basically Atkins. Drop your carbs down to below 20 per day (most of those should come from vegetables).
And you have to exercise. Even if it just walking.
:notes:You’ll keep acceptable foods lists handy and polish your arithmetic skills. In phase 1, for example, you’re allowed 20 grams a day of “net carbs” (pull out the food list), 12 to 15 of them from “foundation vegetables” (pull out another list) high in fiber. But as for fat, you don’t even have to trim it off your steak.
Okay, here's the part where I admit I'm perhaps a.....bit of a drinker. Giving up teh booooze is going to be harder than anything food related. I've heard that vodka can be substituted in moderation, but would be interested in hearing from fellow drink hounds what they did on this diet.Gm et. al:
http://www.atkins.com/program/phase-1/what-you-can-eat-in-this-phase.aspx
if you get through those 2 weeks following it perfectly, we can talk about Phase 2. Phase 1 is the hardest part.
I also have the book that is complete with recipes and the science behind it.
I'd be happy to ship it to you GM as long as you pass it on to someone else when done.
Cutting out the fried chicken and grape soda will probably be the hardest part of the diet.I'm a black coffee drinker. That has zero impact on this, right? I see all sorts of breakfast suggestions for decaf coffee. I'd rather drink out of the toilet.
You count carbs by the gram. There's carb counting sites. For example a typical slice of bread has 36 grams of carbs. You can't have a single slice. So first you have to eliminate grains including rice and oats, crackers and chips. Because of their sugar content a small apple has about 25 grams of carbs. You can't have one. So second you have eliminate sugar even in its healthier forms. A typical potato has about 35 grams of carbs in it. So you can't have one let alone a bag of fries. Most root veggies are going to be too high in carbs for a 20 gram limit. Best to eliminate them too. So you have to fill up on protein and fat. Bacon and cheese topped burgers without the bun. Bigass salads. Check your dressing for sugar). That type of thing.I'm a complete moron....![]()
It's basically Atkins. Drop your carbs down to below 20 per day (most of those should come from vegetables).
And you have to exercise. Even if it just walking.
When you say 'drop your carbs down to below 20 per day' is there a website that can count these? I'm having trouble understanding what 20 carbs would be. What's the measurement?
I know, for example, that an apple is about 75-85 calories. So I can calorie count. Just never counted carbs. Same way/ease as calories?
Pretty much this.You count carbs by the gram. There's carb counting sites. For example a typical slice of bread has 36 grams of carbs. You can't have a single slice. So first you have to eliminate grains including rice and oats, crackers and chips. Because of their sugar content a small apple has about 25 grams of carbs. You can't have one. So second you have eliminate sugar even in its healthier forms. A typical potato has about 35 grams of carbs in it. So you can't have one let alone a bag of fries. Most root veggies are going to be too high in carbs for a 20 gram limit. Best to eliminate them too. So you have to fill up on protein and fat. Bacon and cheese topped burgers without the bun. Bigass salads. Check your dressing for sugar). That type of thing.I'm a complete moron....![]()
It's basically Atkins. Drop your carbs down to below 20 per day (most of those should come from vegetables).
And you have to exercise. Even if it just walking.
When you say 'drop your carbs down to below 20 per day' is there a website that can count these? I'm having trouble understanding what 20 carbs would be. What's the measurement?
I know, for example, that an apple is about 75-85 calories. So I can calorie count. Just never counted carbs. Same way/ease as calories?
I lost almost 100 pounds doing this 7 years ago and I've kept it off. 6-3 197 this morning. I eat whatever I want, but I just don't eat so much anymore. I skip meals for small snacks, and pig out at night with things like steamed veggies.
Good news here.
That doesn't work.Furiously Fap to Feline Fotos Five Times Daily
I'm planning to switch over from beer, wine, and scotch to just scotch. Tanner was saying he drank hard liquor during his routine. It seems like the least problematic. Because yeah,I ain't giving up booze either.Okay, here's the part where I admit I'm perhaps a.....bit of a drinker. Giving up teh booooze is going to be harder than anything food related. I've heard that vodka can be substituted in moderation, but would be interested in hearing from fellow drink hounds what they did on this diet.Gm et. al:
http://www.atkins.com/program/phase-1/what-you-can-eat-in-this-phase.aspx
if you get through those 2 weeks following it perfectly, we can talk about Phase 2. Phase 1 is the hardest part.
I also have the book that is complete with recipes and the science behind it.
I'd be happy to ship it to you GM as long as you pass it on to someone else when done.
Let's see what I can learn and how I begin before you need to ship off the book. I'd rather shave with a butter knife than ship anything, so hold off for now or send to Otis.
And thanks!
Yes, four big fat legs.This could have legs.I'll take you on Oat.
This is super helpful. Thanks JB. I'm going to give this a whirl.Pretty much this.After my divorce I went 325 to 185 over the course of a year (gained quite a bit back, I'm back around 230 but have been pretty honest on the diet since last Fall)You count carbs by the gram. There's carb counting sites. For example a typical slice of bread has 36 grams of carbs. You can't have a single slice. So first you have to eliminate grains including rice and oats, crackers and chips. Because of their sugar content a small apple has about 25 grams of carbs. You can't have one. So second you have eliminate sugar even in its healthier forms. A typical potato has about 35 grams of carbs in it. So you can't have one let alone a bag of fries. Most root veggies are going to be too high in carbs for a 20 gram limit. Best to eliminate them too. So you have to fill up on protein and fat. Bacon and cheese topped burgers without the bun. Bigass salads. Check your dressing for sugar). That type of thing.I'm a complete moron....![]()
It's basically Atkins. Drop your carbs down to below 20 per day (most of those should come from vegetables).
And you have to exercise. Even if it just walking.
When you say 'drop your carbs down to below 20 per day' is there a website that can count these? I'm having trouble understanding what 20 carbs would be. What's the measurement?
I know, for example, that an apple is about 75-85 calories. So I can calorie count. Just never counted carbs. Same way/ease as calories?
I lost almost 100 pounds doing this 7 years ago and I've kept it off. 6-3 197 this morning. I eat whatever I want, but I just don't eat so much anymore. I skip meals for small snacks, and pig out at night with things like steamed veggies.
Good news here.
With this, you're either all in or all out. Once you detox the sugar cravings and get rid of the insulin roller coaster foods, you stop craving it. But one bite of ice cream or a beer or pasta, and you end up ruining the diet and snap your body out of ketosis.
Ketosis is what happens on a severely limited carbo diet - your body starts burning stored fat as opposed to the grams of sugar currently in your body.
When you eat something high in sugar, you snap out of ketosis and it can take 5-10 days to get back into it.
There is no cheating, but after a few months, you'll forget what half that crap tastes like and not care for it even if it's sitting right in front of you. You also wind up feeling fuller with less food naturally overtime.
Typical day for me:
2 scrambled eggs with cheese, bacon and half an avocado
diced red onion, cucumber, tomato, and feta cheese mixed with Greek Dressing served over a cold piece of salmon or arctic char
Cheeseburger/Steak with cauliflower "rice" (grate a head of cauliflower with the largest holes on your grater - microwave it for 5 mins - salt and pepper) - honestly can barely taste the difference from regular rice. It's truly remarkable how well it comes out.
Eventually you're energy will come back after the first 5 days or so and you'll have more energy than you did before. I walk an hour 3 days a week and then do a circuit training program at the gym for 90 minutes 3 days a week.
I always sound like one of those vegans who wants everyone to know they are a vegan in these types of threads - I hope it's not coming off as obnoxious but it just worksbetter than anything else works (for me).
You can do it and it does work. Whenever you feel like eating crap, think about what you'd like to look like at the end of the diet, not how good that crap tastes.This is super helpful. Thanks JB. I'm going to give this a whirl.Pretty much this.After my divorce I went 325 to 185 over the course of a year (gained quite a bit back, I'm back around 230 but have been pretty honest on the diet since last Fall)You count carbs by the gram. There's carb counting sites. For example a typical slice of bread has 36 grams of carbs. You can't have a single slice. So first you have to eliminate grains including rice and oats, crackers and chips. Because of their sugar content a small apple has about 25 grams of carbs. You can't have one. So second you have eliminate sugar even in its healthier forms. A typical potato has about 35 grams of carbs in it. So you can't have one let alone a bag of fries. Most root veggies are going to be too high in carbs for a 20 gram limit. Best to eliminate them too. So you have to fill up on protein and fat. Bacon and cheese topped burgers without the bun. Bigass salads. Check your dressing for sugar). That type of thing.I'm a complete moron....![]()
It's basically Atkins. Drop your carbs down to below 20 per day (most of those should come from vegetables).
And you have to exercise. Even if it just walking.
When you say 'drop your carbs down to below 20 per day' is there a website that can count these? I'm having trouble understanding what 20 carbs would be. What's the measurement?
I know, for example, that an apple is about 75-85 calories. So I can calorie count. Just never counted carbs. Same way/ease as calories?
I lost almost 100 pounds doing this 7 years ago and I've kept it off. 6-3 197 this morning. I eat whatever I want, but I just don't eat so much anymore. I skip meals for small snacks, and pig out at night with things like steamed veggies.
Good news here.
With this, you're either all in or all out. Once you detox the sugar cravings and get rid of the insulin roller coaster foods, you stop craving it. But one bite of ice cream or a beer or pasta, and you end up ruining the diet and snap your body out of ketosis.
Ketosis is what happens on a severely limited carbo diet - your body starts burning stored fat as opposed to the grams of sugar currently in your body.
When you eat something high in sugar, you snap out of ketosis and it can take 5-10 days to get back into it.
There is no cheating, but after a few months, you'll forget what half that crap tastes like and not care for it even if it's sitting right in front of you. You also wind up feeling fuller with less food naturally overtime.
Typical day for me:
2 scrambled eggs with cheese, bacon and half an avocado
diced red onion, cucumber, tomato, and feta cheese mixed with Greek Dressing served over a cold piece of salmon or arctic char
Cheeseburger/Steak with cauliflower "rice" (grate a head of cauliflower with the largest holes on your grater - microwave it for 5 mins - salt and pepper) - honestly can barely taste the difference from regular rice. It's truly remarkable how well it comes out.
Eventually you're energy will come back after the first 5 days or so and you'll have more energy than you did before. I walk an hour 3 days a week and then do a circuit training program at the gym for 90 minutes 3 days a week.
I always sound like one of those vegans who wants everyone to know they are a vegan in these types of threads - I hope it's not coming off as obnoxious but it just worksbetter than anything else works (for me).
The 5 F's diet is huge in EuropeFuriously Fap to Feline Fotos Five Times Daily
How successful could he have been? He still hasn't made the list.Otis said:You guys aren't celebrating Tanner's success enough. For that I say shame on you.
Chaos Commish said:You count carbs by the gram. There's carb counting sites. For example a typical slice of bread has 36 grams of carbs. You can't have a single slice. So first you have to eliminate grains including rice and oats, crackers and chips. Because of their sugar content a small apple has about 25 grams of carbs. You can't have one. So second you have eliminate sugar even in its healthier forms. A typical potato has about 35 grams of carbs in it. So you can't have one let alone a bag of fries. Most root veggies are going to be too high in carbs for a 20 gram limit. Best to eliminate them too. So you have to fill up on protein and fat. Bacon and cheese topped burgers without the bun. Bigass salads. Check your dressing for sugar). That type of thing.General Malaise said:I'm a complete moron....Officer Pete Malloy said:![]()
It's basically Atkins. Drop your carbs down to below 20 per day (most of those should come from vegetables).
And you have to exercise. Even if it just walking.
When you say 'drop your carbs down to below 20 per day' is there a website that can count these? I'm having trouble understanding what 20 carbs would be. What's the measurement?
I know, for example, that an apple is about 75-85 calories. So I can calorie count. Just never counted carbs. Same way/ease as calories?
I lost almost 100 pounds doing this 7 years ago and I've kept it off. 6-3 197 this morning. I eat whatever I want, but I just don't eat so much anymore. I skip meals for small snacks, and pig out at night with things like steamed veggies.
Good news here.
All good, man. I appreciate it.John Bender said:Pretty much this.Chaos Commish said:You count carbs by the gram. There's carb counting sites. For example a typical slice of bread has 36 grams of carbs. You can't have a single slice. So first you have to eliminate grains including rice and oats, crackers and chips. Because of their sugar content a small apple has about 25 grams of carbs. You can't have one. So second you have eliminate sugar even in its healthier forms. A typical potato has about 35 grams of carbs in it. So you can't have one let alone a bag of fries. Most root veggies are going to be too high in carbs for a 20 gram limit. Best to eliminate them too. So you have to fill up on protein and fat. Bacon and cheese topped burgers without the bun. Bigass salads. Check your dressing for sugar). That type of thing.General Malaise said:I'm a complete moron....Officer Pete Malloy said:![]()
It's basically Atkins. Drop your carbs down to below 20 per day (most of those should come from vegetables).
And you have to exercise. Even if it just walking.
When you say 'drop your carbs down to below 20 per day' is there a website that can count these? I'm having trouble understanding what 20 carbs would be. What's the measurement?
I know, for example, that an apple is about 75-85 calories. So I can calorie count. Just never counted carbs. Same way/ease as calories?
I lost almost 100 pounds doing this 7 years ago and I've kept it off. 6-3 197 this morning. I eat whatever I want, but I just don't eat so much anymore. I skip meals for small snacks, and pig out at night with things like steamed veggies.
Good news here.
After my divorce I went 325 to 185 over the course of a year (gained quite a bit back, I'm back around 230 but have been pretty honest on the diet since last Fall)
With this, you're either all in or all out. Once you detox the sugar cravings and get rid of the insulin roller coaster foods, you stop craving it. But one bite of ice cream or a beer or pasta, and you end up ruining the diet and snap your body out of ketosis.
Ketosis is what happens on a severely limited carbo diet - your body starts burning stored fat as opposed to the grams of sugar currently in your body.
When you eat something high in sugar, you snap out of ketosis and it can take 5-10 days to get back into it.
There is no cheating, but after a few months, you'll forget what half that crap tastes like and not care for it even if it's sitting right in front of you. You also wind up feeling fuller with less food naturally overtime.
Typical day for me:
2 scrambled eggs with cheese, bacon and half an avocado
diced red onion, cucumber, tomato, and feta cheese mixed with Greek Dressing served over a cold piece of salmon or arctic char
Cheeseburger/Steak with cauliflower "rice" (grate a head of cauliflower with the largest holes on your grater - microwave it for 5 mins - salt and pepper) - honestly can barely taste the difference from regular rice. It's truly remarkable how well it comes out.
Eventually you're energy will come back after the first 5 days or so and you'll have more energy than you did before. I walk an hour 3 days a week and then do a circuit training program at the gym for 90 minutes 3 days a week.
I always sound like one of those vegans who wants everyone to know they are a vegan in these types of threads - I hope it's not coming off as obnoxious but it just worksbetter than anything else works (for me).
6' and at last check by my Dr.....Otis said:GM: current height and weight, and goal weight?
I'm not a big sweet/sugar guy, but love fruit. I can't drink coffee with any cream or sugar anymore. I don't eat junk food like chips very often. I never eat dessert unless it's a holiday. Donuts make me a wee bit nauseous. But I'm an apple a day kind of guy so that's gone in this diet. Fare thee well.If you drop sugar for a reasonable amount of time, products that are artificially sweetened will taste way too strong when you try them.
Yep - bowl 12 eggs. Choke em down with some bacon and sliced cucumbers or something.I'm not a big sweet/sugar guy, but love fruit. I can't drink coffee with any cream or sugar anymore. I don't eat junk food like chips very often. I never eat dessert unless it's a holiday. Donuts make me a wee bit nauseous. But I'm an apple a day kind of guy so that's gone in this diet. Fare thee well.If you drop sugar for a reasonable amount of time, products that are artificially sweetened will taste way too strong when you try them.
I also don't eat breakfast at home during the week and have always just had fruit at work. I suppose I should boil a bunch of eggs and make some bacon for the week?