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Target and catch % database site? (1 Viewer)

You might find that you like ours just as much or more.
Did you guys ever adjust yours to reflect true target / catch %?You know, eliminate obvious non targets such as throw aways by QB's when under pressure that were in the area of a WR & then adjust the target / catch % accordingly.

If you guys would do that, you'd set yourselves apart from the rest & have a real winner on your hands. Otherwise, except for the window dressing, you're just showing the same stats as everyone else. :shrug:

 
You might find that you like ours just as much or more.
Did you guys ever adjust yours to reflect true target / catch %?You know, eliminate obvious non targets such as throw aways by QB's when under pressure that were in the area of a WR & then adjust the target / catch % accordingly.

If you guys would do that, you'd set yourselves apart from the rest & have a real winner on your hands. Otherwise, except for the window dressing, you're just showing the same stats as everyone else. :thumbup:
I believe, and Doug will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong, that our target numbers come from the game recaps and adjust for thrown away balls, penalties, etc.
 
Anthony Borbely said:
What can't you see with Firefox? I use it and haven't had any problems.
Screen ShotHere is the screenshot. I have this problem (ads cover text and jarble text) on many of the pages at FBGs when I use Fire Fox.

Also...it doesn't matter what I set the text size at.

 
Anthony Borbely said:
Tillmanisahero said:
You might find that you like ours just as much or more.
Great work...just wish you would work out the Firefox compatibility issues. I hate that I have to use IE to look at some of your websites this year. Last year I didn't have that problem.
What can't you see with Firefox? I use it and haven't had any problems.
Same here. I only use Firefox and it works great for me. All pages at Footballguys do. I think it might be on your end Till.
 
Anthony Borbely said:
What can't you see with Firefox? I use it and haven't had any problems.
Screen ShotHere is the screenshot. I have this problem (ads cover text and jarble text) on many of the pages at FBGs when I use Fire Fox.

Also...it doesn't matter what I set the text size at.
Go here and post your problem, and it will help to post the image you posted in the shark pool. Hopefully the computer gurus can help you out. Good luck.
 
Anthony Borbely said:
What can't you see with Firefox? I use it and haven't had any problems.
Screen ShotHere is the screenshot. I have this problem (ads cover text and jarble text) on many of the pages at FBGs when I use Fire Fox.

Also...it doesn't matter what I set the text size at.
Do you have firefox minimized and/or do you have a widget or something that would restrict it's size?If I'm not mistaken, the page is a smidge off when not 100% the width of the monitor. Just a smidge

 
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Wow.

I've always liked Chambers but that number is...well sick. Harrington didn't help much but I don't think he (Chambers) has ever had a number much higher than 50% has he?

 
You might find that you like ours just as much or more.
Did you guys ever adjust yours to reflect true target / catch %?You know, eliminate obvious non targets such as throw aways by QB's when under pressure that were in the area of a WR & then adjust the target / catch % accordingly.

If you guys would do that, you'd set yourselves apart from the rest & have a real winner on your hands. Otherwise, except for the window dressing, you're just showing the same stats as everyone else. :lmao:
I believe, and Doug will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong, that our target numbers come from the game recaps and adjust for thrown away balls, penalties, etc.
Hey Jene,I suggested to Joe last year that you guys might want to do that & he said while you guys currently don't, it was something he'd look into for this year.

Just as an FYI, penalties automatically wipe out plays & any resulting stats.

Anyway I was just wondering if Joe had decided to try implementing true target / reception % this year?

I know it would be extra work, but it would really put you guys on a whole other level, compared to what everyone else is doing.

 
You might find that you like ours just as much or more.
Did you guys ever adjust yours to reflect true target / catch %?You know, eliminate obvious non targets such as throw aways by QB's when under pressure that were in the area of a WR & then adjust the target / catch % accordingly.

If you guys would do that, you'd set yourselves apart from the rest & have a real winner on your hands. Otherwise, except for the window dressing, you're just showing the same stats as everyone else. :goodposting:
I believe, and Doug will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong, that our target numbers come from the game recaps and adjust for thrown away balls, penalties, etc.
Hey Jene,I suggested to Joe last year that you guys might want to do that & he said while you guys currently don't, it was something he'd look into for this year.

Just as an FYI, penalties automatically wipe out plays & any resulting stats.

Anyway I was just wondering if Joe had decided to try implementing true target / reception % this year?

I know it would be extra work, but it would really put you guys on a whole other level, compared to what everyone else is doing.
Good enough. I understand the issue with penalties. If you're looking for a reception/target percentage, it's not helpful. It may make a small difference in the total target numbers that would be worth considering.I based my original response from a old 2005 post in our staff discussion room and may have misread it. I know that our recappers make their own determination of targets, just wasn't sure which number was transferred to the database. Data entry may be the issue there, but I'm again talking out of turn.

 
Anthony Borbely said:
What can't you see with Firefox? I use it and haven't had any problems.
Screen ShotHere is the screenshot. I have this problem (ads cover text and jarble text) on many of the pages at FBGs when I use Fire Fox.

Also...it doesn't matter what I set the text size at.
Do you have firefox minimized and/or do you have a widget or something that would restrict it's size?If I'm not mistaken, the page is a smidge off when not 100% the width of the monitor. Just a smidge
Good thought, Bri. When I narrow down my Firefox window, though, I get a horizontal scrollbar rather than squeezing the content.Tilllmanisahero > Based on the screenshot it looks like you're running Firefox on Windows XP. Which version of Firefox are you running? (You can find it on the "Help" menu by clicking on "About Mozilla Firefox". I'm on 2.0.0.5)

 
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You might find that you like ours just as much or more.
Did you guys ever adjust yours to reflect true target / catch %?You know, eliminate obvious non targets such as throw aways by QB's when under pressure that were in the area of a WR & then adjust the target / catch % accordingly.

If you guys would do that, you'd set yourselves apart from the rest & have a real winner on your hands. Otherwise, except for the window dressing, you're just showing the same stats as everyone else. :shrug:
I believe, and Doug will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong, that our target numbers come from the game recaps and adjust for thrown away balls, penalties, etc.
Hey Jene,I suggested to Joe last year that you guys might want to do that & he said while you guys currently don't, it was something he'd look into for this year.

Just as an FYI, penalties automatically wipe out plays & any resulting stats.

Anyway I was just wondering if Joe had decided to try implementing true target / reception % this year?

I know it would be extra work, but it would really put you guys on a whole other level, compared to what everyone else is doing.
Good enough. I understand the issue with penalties. If you're looking for a reception/target percentage, it's not helpful. It may make a small difference in the total target numbers that would be worth considering.I based my original response from a old 2005 post in our staff discussion room and may have misread it. I know that our recappers make their own determination of targets, just wasn't sure which number was transferred to the database. Data entry may be the issue there, but I'm again talking out of turn.
Hey Jene,I think you might have misunderstood me on the penalties thing.

Those plays never happened so they're never in the stats.

You never see a pick thrown by a QB that was called back by penalty as a stat.

You never see pass attempt, completion or yardage for a QB on a play that was called back by penalty.

You never see a rushing attempt or yardage for a RB on a play that was called back by penalty.

You never see a sack credited to a defender on a play that was called back by penalty.

You never see a reception or yardage for a WR on a play that is called back by penalty.

...etc...etc...etc...

I'd be very surprised if ya'lls target / reception % included such non plays. But I don't think ya'll do, as your numbers are in line with everyone else's.

My point was more for say when the QB is still in the pocket & will get called for intentional grounding unless he throws it away in the general vicinity of an eligible receiver. The QB throws a clear & obviously uncatchable ball, yet the stats everyone goes off show it as a target to the receiver that he did not catch.

Going even deeper are the targets to a WR that are clearly under thrown (skipping off the turf 10' shy of the WR) or over thrown (15' too high) etc... & the WR has no chance at that pass, yet the pass is still counted as a target to that the WR, which he did not catch.

That was more what I meant by asking if you guys were going to show a WR's true target / reception % this year.

As I said, I know Joe & me talked about it last year & he said it was something he'd look into, but was a little leery as he thought it might be too subjective.

Anyway, I was just curious if ya'll had decided to try it this year?

And don't get me wrong Jene, FBG's stuff is great as is. Love having everything at my fingertips. Just something that I think would only further seperate you guys from rest of the fanatsy football sites out there (like ya'll aren't already head & shoulders above everyone else). :thumbup:

 
Anthony Borbely said:
What can't you see with Firefox? I use it and haven't had any problems.
Screen ShotHere is the screenshot. I have this problem (ads cover text and jarble text) on many of the pages at FBGs when I use Fire Fox.

Also...it doesn't matter what I set the text size at.
Do you have firefox minimized and/or do you have a widget or something that would restrict it's size?If I'm not mistaken, the page is a smidge off when not 100% the width of the monitor. Just a smidge
Good thought, Bri. When I narrow down my Firefox window, though, I get a horizontal scrollbar rather than squeezing the content.Tilllmanisahero > Based on the screenshot it looks like you're running Firefox on Windows XP. Which version of Firefox are you running? (You can find it on the "Help" menu by clicking on "About Mozilla Firefox". I'm on 2.0.0.5)
Same version for me 2.0.0.5
 
Tillmanisahero, try this:

1. hold the Ctrl key

2. run your mousewheel upward two clicks. (EDIT: maybe three)

 
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I haven't received mine yet, but it looks like Football Outsiders may have a great listing of dropped passes in the 2007 Pro Football Prospectus.

Here's a great article on adjusted completion percentage for QBs. In it they mention that Miami led the league in dropped passes with 46, Seattle was second with 43, Philly with 40, NO with 39, and GB with 39. Buffalo actually had the fewest dropped passes with just 12 dropped passes. :coffee: (That might be some info to chew on right there) My guess is that they have the rest of that information in the Prospectus but I don't know that for sure.

Today they'll be posting and article on which QBs had the biggest accuracy problems and which ones suffered the most from the pass rush.

(I can't wait until my Pro Football Prospectus arrives. Along with the FBG mag that's all I need for fantasy/football reading material)

 
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Hey Jene,

I think you might have misunderstood me on the penalties thing.

Those plays never happened so they're never in the stats.

You never see a pick thrown by a QB that was called back by penalty as a stat.

You never see pass attempt, completion or yardage for a QB on a play that was called back by penalty.

You never see a rushing attempt or yardage for a RB on a play that was called back by penalty.

You never see a sack credited to a defender on a play that was called back by penalty.

You never see a reception or yardage for a WR on a play that is called back by penalty.

...etc...etc...etc...

I'd be very surprised if ya'lls target / reception % included such non plays. But I don't think ya'll do, as your numbers are in line with everyone else's.

My point was more for say when the QB is still in the pocket & will get called for intentional grounding unless he throws it away in the general vicinity of an eligible receiver. The QB throws a clear & obviously uncatchable ball, yet the stats everyone goes off show it as a target to the receiver that he did not catch.

Going even deeper are the targets to a WR that are clearly under thrown (skipping off the turf 10' shy of the WR) or over thrown (15' too high) etc... & the WR has no chance at that pass, yet the pass is still counted as a target to that the WR, which he did not catch.

That was more what I meant by asking if you guys were going to show a WR's true target / reception % this year.

As I said, I know Joe & me talked about it last year & he said it was something he'd look into, but was a little leery as he thought it might be too subjective.

Anyway, I was just curious if ya'll had decided to try it this year?

And don't get me wrong Jene, FBG's stuff is great as is. Love having everything at my fingertips. Just something that I think would only further seperate you guys from rest of the fanatsy football sites out there (like ya'll aren't already head & shoulders above everyone else). :bag:
:jawdrop: (I kid.)This is a great idea though and I would love to see FBG try to implement it. I agree that it would make the already worthwhile subscription that much better than the competition.

 

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