Tavaris Jackson would demand a trade?!?! (1 Viewer)

[Zoomanji]

Sorry if this is a :toyota: but I really don't want to wade through the Favre threads since its not about Favre

Jackson says he would demand a trade if Favre is signed. Oh, OK, that's nice but what team would want him? Personally I'd rather have Rosenfelds. I don't see much potential with Jackson and apparently he may have an ego problem if he thinks he can demand a trade. Really who would want him as anything more than a back-up?

 

[Kuz]

Sorry if this is a :toyota: but I really don't want to wade through the Favre threads since its not about FavreJackson says he would demand a trade if Favre is signed. Oh, OK, that's nice but what team would want him? Personally I'd rather have Rosenfelds. I don't see much potential with Jackson and apparently he may have an ego problem if he thinks he can demand a trade. Really who would want him as anything more than a back-up?

yeah. I think there may of been a thread but I'm with you. But Jackson asking for a trade really doesn't mean much when there won't be many teams lining up for his services..

 

[Yenrub]

I think the Seahawks should give a look. Hasselbeck is getting up there and he has back problems.

Bring him in to compete with Wallace

I also think Seattle would be a good place for Vick if he gets reinstated

 

[Avery]

Sorry if this is a :toyota: but I really don't want to wade through the Favre threads since its not about FavreJackson says he would demand a trade if Favre is signed. Oh, OK, that's nice but what team would want him? Personally I'd rather have Rosenfelds. I don't see much potential with Jackson and apparently he may have an ego problem if he thinks he can demand a trade. Really who would want him as anything more than a back-up?

He has some great physical tools and I'd be interested to see what he can do with some decent coaching and a coach not messing with his head by repeatedly calling him the starter and then benching him.Assuming he won't cost much, seems like a decent gamble for a QB starved team to take.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

To be honest, if I'm a saavy GM like Marty Hurney - why not roll the dice here?

Jackson has had his moments and is still very young. IMO, I think he's showed signs of getting it, even though he still has some difficult stretches. People forget though that he went to Alabama State. When he was drafted, he was completely raw. He is 26 and has ability.

I was listening to someone on the radio this weekend...may have been Kiper who said that if the competition was only between Jackson and Rosenfels based on OTA and mini-camp work, that Jackson would be the clear winner.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

If I'm Jackson, I'd ask out too. He still does have the tools, it just seems like they were never going to be patient with him in Minnesota. Maybe for good reason, considering the window of opportunity with a top flight RB.

I agree, very little risk in trading for him, because I don't think the price will be that high.

 

[T Bell]

The answer is Brad Childress . . . at his next job.

 

[The Man With No Name]

he had a 95.4 QB rating last season. That is pretty good.

 

[rzrback77]

To be honest, if I'm a saavy GM like Marty Hurney - why not roll the dice here?Jackson has had his moments and is still very young. IMO, I think he's showed signs of getting it, even though he still has some difficult stretches. People forget though that he went to Alabama State. When he was drafted, he was completely raw. He is 26 and has ability.I was listening to someone on the radio this weekend...may have been Kiper who said that if the competition was only between Jackson and Rosenfels based on OTA and mini-camp work, that Jackson would be the clear winner.

FYI - He was originally at Arkansas and transferred out to Alabam State when Matt Jones took over as a Freshman. The transferring adds to the difficulty of putting it all together in my opinion.

 

[CiscoKid]

Sorry if this is a :toyota: but I really don't want to wade through the Favre threads since its not about FavreJackson says he would demand a trade if Favre is signed. Oh, OK, that's nice but what team would want him? Personally I'd rather have Rosenfelds. I don't see much potential with Jackson and apparently he may have an ego problem if he thinks he can demand a trade. Really who would want him as anything more than a back-up?

Zoomanji, being a fellow Eagles fan, I'd really like the Birds to somehow land Jackson. I'm not convinced as of yet that Kolb is the QB of the future, and Jackson would have a couple of years to battle with Kolb while developing further behind McNabb. I really think it would be a win-win for him and the team and he'd be a near perfect fit. Of course, he would be a backup here which is sort of the point you were making, but I think that the time to develop would really do him good. I think if you give him some time with a decent coaching staff he could still be very good down the road...

 

[Gopher State]

Green Bay would be a good place for Jackson, since Rogers is made of peanut brittle

 

[MAC_32]

Derek Anderson should be traded for before Turdvaris, if there's a buyer for Jackson I feel sorry for that team's fans.

 

[VTjkru]

Green Bay would be a good place for Jackson, since Rogers is made of peanut brittle

16/16

 

[Traders2001]

Denver ..

Orton is worthless ...

 

[BigJim®]

it just seems like they were never going to be patient with him in Minnesota.

4 years isn't enough patience?

 

[Yenrub]

it just seems like they were never going to be patient with him in Minnesota.

4 years isn't enough patience?

The guy has been improving every year. His QB rating has gone up each season 62.5-70.8-95.4

 

[mozzy84]

Do you guys actually think he's going to demand a trade? jackson has not come out and said that like the OP mentioned... The only way I see Jackson asking for a trade is if he feels he will actually be cut come august. And what would the vikes possible fetch for him that would make it worth there while (I don't think they are going to cut him)? Assuming Favre signs they would have by FAR the best depth in the division at qb and I could see him beating out Sage for the #2 spot with the limited work both are going to get, Jackson should have a decent leg up on that battle. I could also see them using him and harvin in the wildcat this year.

 

[BigJim®]

it just seems like they were never going to be patient with him in Minnesota.

4 years isn't enough patience?

The guy has been improving every year. His QB rating has gone up each season 62.5-70.8-95.4

QB rating? Really? I think Tarvaris' QB rating has been sufficiently debunked on this very board. Contributing to this awesome 2008 QB rating were:1/1 8 100.0 [QB rating 100.0] 8/10 105 80.0 [QB Rating 143.8] 11/17 163 64.7 [QB rating 135.5] If there is better example of why QB rating means nothing, I'd love to see it. Let's be serious for a moment. Any QB worth his salt would not only rise to the level of mediocrity, but would flourish with this running game.

 

[Yenrub]

it just seems like they were never going to be patient with him in Minnesota.

4 years isn't enough patience?

The guy has been improving every year. His QB rating has gone up each season 62.5-70.8-95.4

QB rating? Really? I think Tarvaris' QB rating has been sufficiently debunked on this very board. Contributing to this awesome 2008 QB rating were:1/1 8 100.0 [QB rating 100.0] 8/10 105 80.0 [QB Rating 143.8] 11/17 163 64.7 [QB rating 135.5] If there is better example of why QB rating means nothing, I'd love to see it. Let's be serious for a moment. Any QB worth his salt would not only rise to the level of mediocrity, but would flourish with this running game.

It’s not just his QB rating that is improvingHis completion percentage has increased (ever so slightly) each yearHis yards per attempt has increased each yearHis interception ratio has decreased each yearHis touchdown percentage has increased each yearHe may not be improving at the rate you or the Vikings would like to see but it’s hard to argue that the guy is improving

 

[KellysHeroes]

more like he gets released, I doubt they would get a 6th for him.

 

[Banger]

He's got some raw tools but he's been given a shot for a couple years and hasn't taken the team to the next level. The Vikes are built to win now and the biggest thing holding them back was the QB position. You can show me QB ratings or any other stats that may support him but at the end of the day my eye test tells me he's not a very good QB right now. I thought that going into the season last year and he did absolutely nothing to change my mind, in fact he's affirmed my thought and apparently the coaching staff now agrees.

He was in one of the BEST situations in the entire league (great line, great running game, pretty good wrs) in terms of being put in a position to succeed and while he hasn't been a train wreck he hasn't shown he can make the team a winner. I don't think he'd be the starter for any team in the league right now....he might be in competition with Campbell, Russell, Edwards, Hill, if he were acquired by those teams but put in those offenses would he be any better than they were? I really don't think so...

 

[flufhed]

If the asking price is low I could see the Titans taking a shot. Fisher likes athletic QBs, and Jackson has at least shown more long-term potential than Young.

 

[BigJim®]

He may not be improving at the rate you or the Vikings would like to see but it’s hard to argue that the guy is improving

I think you've nailed it here. You'll have a hard time finding a fan of another NFL team willing to sacrifice 5 seasons on a developmental QB, based on really insignificant baby steps over 4 seasons. I really don't bother with numbers since I've had the opportunity to watch TJ throw for 150 yards a game even while facing 8 man fronts that are selling out to stop Peterson. That said, TJ had one flukish 4 TD game in a 160 yard effort, and other than that he's tossed 16 TDs over the better part of 3 seasons. That's laughable. He's had plenty of time to develop and I don't see the game ever slowing down for him. Any other team is welcome to take him.

 

[meeka]

more like he gets released, I doubt they would get a 6th for him.

I heard on the radio last week here in the Twin Cities that there are rumblings that they would keep Booty as the #3 development QB and cut T-Jack.

 

[BigJim®]

more like he gets released, I doubt they would get a 6th for him.

I heard on the radio last week here in the Twin Cities that there are rumblings that they would keep Booty as the #3 development QB and cut T-Jack.

I'd be highly in favor of this move. Makes sense to assume at this point that Favre is a done deal for this season, and potentially next season. Common sense says no backup will get action this season, and Booty came with much higher pedigree having experienced significant success in USC's system. Pretty nice transition to NFL success among other USC QBs who succeeded in that system. Based on seeing nothing of Booty in Purple, and 30 games of TJ in purple, I definitely develop Booty over TJ knowing perhaps the next 2 years would be holding a clipboard.

 

[bigchee]

He may not be improving at the rate you or the Vikings would like to see but it’s hard to argue that the guy is improving

I think you've nailed it here. You'll have a hard time finding a fan of another NFL team willing to sacrifice 5 seasons on a developmental QB, based on really insignificant baby steps over 4 seasons. I really don't bother with numbers since I've had the opportunity to watch TJ throw for 150 yards a game even while facing 8 man fronts that are selling out to stop Peterson. That said, TJ had one flukish 4 TD game in a 160 yard effort, and other than that he's tossed 16 TDs over the better part of 3 seasons. That's laughable. He's had plenty of time to develop and I don't see the game ever slowing down for him. Any other team is welcome to take him.

Interesting numbers between Favre and Jackson coming down the stretch of the season:Brett Favre’s last five games:2005: 1167 yards 1 TD 10 Ints 56.7% completion, 54.4 QB rating2006: 1251 yards 4 TDs 8 Ints 53.8% completion, 70.1 QB rating2007: 799 yards 6 TD’s 7 Ints 59% completion, 73.2 QB rating2008: 1011 yards 2 TD’s 8 Ints 56% completion, 57.5 QB rating (ok...ok...use the injury clause here)Viking QB’s last five games- Ferrotte (one and a half games) and Jackson (four and a half games) :2008: 1012 yards 9 TD’s 4 Ints 64.5% completion, 100.6 QB ratingInteresting indeed....

 

[Hinezer]

He may not be improving at the rate you or the Vikings would like to see but it’s hard to argue that the guy is improving

I think you've nailed it here. You'll have a hard time finding a fan of another NFL team willing to sacrifice 5 seasons on a developmental QB, based on really insignificant baby steps over 4 seasons. I really don't bother with numbers since I've had the opportunity to watch TJ throw for 150 yards a game even while facing 8 man fronts that are selling out to stop Peterson. That said, TJ had one flukish 4 TD game in a 160 yard effort, and other than that he's tossed 16 TDs over the better part of 3 seasons. That's laughable. He's had plenty of time to develop and I don't see the game ever slowing down for him. Any other team is welcome to take him.

Interesting numbers between Favre and Jackson coming down the stretch of the season:Brett Favre’s last five games:2005: 1167 yards 1 TD 10 Ints 56.7% completion, 54.4 QB rating2006: 1251 yards 4 TDs 8 Ints 53.8% completion, 70.1 QB rating2007: 799 yards 6 TD’s 7 Ints 59% completion, 73.2 QB rating2008: 1011 yards 2 TD’s 8 Ints 56% completion, 57.5 QB rating (ok...ok...use the injury clause here)Viking QB’s last five games- Ferrotte (one and a half games) and Jackson (four and a half games) :2008: 1012 yards 9 TD’s 4 Ints 64.5% completion, 100.6 QB ratingInteresting indeed....

This is why, as a Vikings fan, I'm not in favor of move to bring Favre in. Not so much the Jackson argument, but how terrible Favre has been down the stretch. It wasn't just last year with the injury, but the last 5 years. He plays great for most of the season, but wears down at the end of the season. When looking at the Vikings need for QB, when do they need an improvement the most? In crunch time at the end of the season when Favre has failed lately.What I found funny this offseason was that Vikings fans wanted anyone but Jackson because they needed someone that would be reliable down the stretch in the playoffs. Who were the 3 QBs mentioned the most? Favre, Cutler and Garcia. All three had their teams in position to make the playoffs, but failed miserably. However, Jackson played well and helped the Vikings make playoffs. Don't get me wrong, I'd be all for Cutler if the price wasn't so high.

 

[T Bell]

He may not be improving at the rate you or the Vikings would like to see but it’s hard to argue that the guy is improving

I think you've nailed it here. You'll have a hard time finding a fan of another NFL team willing to sacrifice 5 seasons on a developmental QB, based on really insignificant baby steps over 4 seasons. I really don't bother with numbers since I've had the opportunity to watch TJ throw for 150 yards a game even while facing 8 man fronts that are selling out to stop Peterson. That said, TJ had one flukish 4 TD game in a 160 yard effort, and other than that he's tossed 16 TDs over the better part of 3 seasons. That's laughable. He's had plenty of time to develop and I don't see the game ever slowing down for him. Any other team is welcome to take him.

Interesting numbers between Favre and Jackson coming down the stretch of the season:Brett Favre’s last five games:

2005: 1167 yards 1 TD 10 Ints 56.7% completion, 54.4 QB rating

2006: 1251 yards 4 TDs 8 Ints 53.8% completion, 70.1 QB rating

2007: 799 yards 6 TD’s 7 Ints 59% completion, 73.2 QB rating

2008: 1011 yards 2 TD’s 8 Ints 56% completion, 57.5 QB rating (ok...ok...use the injury clause here)

Viking QB’s last five games- Ferrotte (one and a half games) and Jackson (four and a half games) :

2008: 1012 yards 9 TD’s 4 Ints 64.5% completion, 100.6 QB rating

Interesting indeed....

"Brad Childress is walking slowly out to the huddle . . . he looks back to the bench and taps his right arm. Jackson's running in. Childress is shaking Favre's hand and taking the ball from him . . ."