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Tax Guys - Not sure how to proceed - need help (1 Viewer)

belljr

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So I filed my taxes, efiled - then started my kids taxes.

When I go to submit hers it says someone files using her ssn.

I then noticed my federal got rejected because someone else used my dependents ssn number,

I checked her credit reports and all clean.

I assume I need to call the IRS tomorrow? Can I efile again?

Advice?

Did she get ID theft?
 
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This has happened with my daughter’s SSN the last few years. If your daughter is 18+, you won’t be able to call for her. She will need to call to prove she is the one who should use that SSN. They then might give her a PIN that you add to your efile. This can all take a while. My daughter had to call many times before she could finally get through to someone.
 
really ? even if shes an dependent? I can't file my taxes because of it

Was there any other issues with her identity?
 
So I can't sudmit my tax return but my daughter has to call to prove she is an adult dependent so I can file my return?
 
really ? even if shes an dependent? I can't file my taxes because of it

Was there any other issues with her identity?
No, we haven’t noticed anything with her identity.

And, yeah, I had to file with paper last year because I acted too late to get her PIN and ran out of time to file.
 
It’s incredible that this is still so rampant and the IRS seems to have no way to prevent it up front other than everyone establishing a PIN.
 
It’s incredible that this is still so rampant and the IRS seems to have no way to prevent it up front other than everyone establishing a PIN.
Especially since she was on my return for 17 years.

So are they trying to take her refund money? I don't understand the reasoning for this?
 
It’s incredible that this is still so rampant and the IRS seems to have no way to prevent it up front other than everyone establishing a PIN.
The IRS does generally have the capability to suss out fraudulent return filings, and likely could do so for every taxpayer if they wanted to. The problem is that it would very significantly delay tax return processing, and thus very significantly delay people getting their refunds, which is a political PR disaster. There's also strict timeframes in which the IRS can refund a taxpayer's overpayment without paying interest to the taxpayer; undertaking a huge identity theft program like this would cost the IRS a not-insignificant amount of interest on late refunds.
 
It’s incredible that this is still so rampant and the IRS seems to have no way to prevent it up front other than everyone establishing a PIN.
Especially since she was on my return for 17 years.

So are they trying to take her refund money? I don't understand the reasoning for this?
If they have her name and SSN, they can file a tax return with fake W-2 withholding, claim a refund via direct deposit into a fraudulent bank account, the IRS pays the refund to the fraudulent bank account before matching the W-2 withholding to the taxpayer's account (because the W-2 withholding doesn't exist). The IRS often pays out erroneous refunds early on, in an effort to efficiently process tax refunds without delays (see my post above).

The fraudsters collect the refund - or multiple refunds from many different identity theft returns - in a bank account, then drain the bank account and close it. By the time the IRS figures out that an identity theft return has been filed, like right now, the money is long gone and the IRS has no way to claw back the erroneous refund from the scammers.
 
It’s incredible that this is still so rampant and the IRS seems to have no way to prevent it up front other than everyone establishing a PIN.
Especially since she was on my return for 17 years.

So are they trying to take her refund money? I don't understand the reasoning for this?
If they have her name and SSN, they can file a tax return with fake W-2 withholding, claim a refund via direct deposit into a fraudulent bank account, the IRS pays the refund to the fraudulent bank account before matching the W-2 withholding to the taxpayer's account (because the W-2 withholding doesn't exist). The IRS often pays out erroneous refunds early on, in an effort to efficiently process tax refunds without delays (see my post above).

The fraudsters collect the refund - or multiple refunds from many different identity theft returns - in a bank account, then drain the bank account and close it. By the time the IRS figures out that an identity theft return has been filed, like right now, the money is long gone and the IRS has no way to claw back the erroneous refund from the scammers.
I will privately wish full "xXXXXXXX" on these people.

It's funny this is the first year I waited to file knowing I would owe some money. Normally I file as soon as possible. I wonder if that would have mattered if I was "first".

THis sucks. I wonder how they got the information. I'l have to have her put a hold on her reports now I guess.
 
Always knew this was a possibility but never thought about taking steps to prevent it. Similar to how i've frozen my credit, I think this thread has motivated me to create a pin.
 

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