TE Greg Dulcich, NYG (2 Viewers)

[BobbyLayne]

being criminally misused by Payton

IMO

don’t hold any shares but in another system this guy could be Sam Laporta (sans the blocking aspect)

And the ability to actually stay on the field. Guys always hurting his hammy

Welp Sam is hurt rn so jury is out on that front

But yeah Dulcich lacks the most important ability (consistent availability)

The irony of my statement did dawn on me as I was typing that in light of the calf injury for LaPorta but until he misses I figured I’d give him the benefit of the doubt.

tore his meniscus last fall

instead of preparing for the draft he rehabbed his knee to play in the bowl game

they put in a wildcat package to get him some rushing attempts

1. Anybody can get hurt. At anytime. Until it becomes an annual thing it’s not a thing. 1A. is there are so many examples of “injury prone” guys who became Ironman types (Stafford, Mattison) or put together several healthy consecutive injury free seasons (Fred Jones, Keenan Allen, et al)
2. Tells you a lot about this guy and why he’s a Holmes/MCDC type guy. Loyal, hardworking, probably calls his mom often.

 

[menobrown]

Regarding his usage I can't say I've seen enough to be critical of Payton. He's not a full time starter, I think we all know that, but he was playing a lot in week one. So I still can't figure out his role as he's barely played. And what we really don't know, and maybe won't now, is what his role will look like if/when they shed some WR's.

Now what I will be super critical over is that he was playing at all last night. This is gross injury mismanagement. He appeared to be limited in his workload before having the setback. With a soft tissue injury you should not be in management mode at this point in the season and you absolutely should not be when you could have given him an extra 10 days rest before your next game. His original injury was 33 days before this game. An injury so bad they put him on IR but deemed him recovered enough to play limited snaps. That's dumb. If they had waited one more week they would have given him extra recovery time that was almost 1/3rd of the recovery time of his original injury. That's what you do unless you are in some absolute must win game and this was not it.

 

[FarFromHome]

Didn't even roster for 24 hrs. Dropped. Ha ha

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Guy's hamstrings are tighter than a violin. Disappointing waste of talent. On my watch list now.

 

[KingPrawn]

Has there been any update since last night's leaving the game early with a hamstring? Anything post-game as to the severity? Felt a tweak and playing it safe sort of thing? More serious? Anything?

 

[FantasyGuru24]

Starting him over LaPorta tonight ..

Hope this was a joke

Unfortunately, no

 

[menobrown]

Has there been any update since last night's leaving the game early with a hamstring? Anything post-game as to the severity? Felt a tweak and playing it safe sort of thing? More serious? Anything?

I'd say great question because I've been having the same thoughts and can't find nothing.

Would really like to know as I got waivers running tomorrow morning. Hate to say I've never owned a player more in my life so this really stings but these are TE premium leagues and I'd like some more info before I start chopping him off.

 

[BigAl21]

Starting him over LaPorta tonight ..

Hope this was a joke

Unfortunately, no

Gotta change your handle “Guru”.

 

[FantasyGuru24]

Starting him over LaPorta tonight ..

Hope this was a joke

Unfortunately, no

Gotta change your handle “Guru”.

Lmao .. One silly mistake. I’ll bounce back .. I was afraid of LaPorta being ruled out and didn’t have any roster space to pick up another TE.

 

[BigAl21]

Starting him over LaPorta tonight ..

Hope this was a joke

Unfortunately, no

Gotta change your handle “Guru”.

Lmao .. One silly mistake. I’ll bounce back .. I was afraid of LaPorta being ruled out and didn’t have any roster space to pick up another TE.

Well that makes a little more sense. I was just messing with you

 

[menobrown]

Has there been any update since last night's leaving the game early with a hamstring? Anything post-game as to the severity? Felt a tweak and playing it safe sort of thing? More serious? Anything?

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#Broncos coach Sean Payton said everything medically was followed in bringing back TE Greg Dulcich from hamstring injury. He reinjured it. Payton said he understands Dulcich is frustrated. Said they are moving forward with things but didn't give any timetable.

 

[Faust]

Broncos TE Greg Dulcich (hamstring/foot) has renewed swelling in his foot, according to head coach Sean Payton.

The second-year tight end has dealt with injuries all season and has appeared in only two games for the Broncos. The team opened his 21-day window for return earlier in the week, but it appears unlikely that he’ll play in Week 16 with this new swelling, which Payton confirmed was unrelated to a previous injury. However, Sean Payton did say that he expects Dulcich to play in the regular season, so it’s sounds like there’s some optimism that he’ll return to action by Week 17 or 18, not that it would help many fantasy managers for this season.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Broncos TE Greg Dulcich (hamstring/foot) has renewed swelling in his foot, according to head coach Sean Payton.

The second-year tight end has dealt with injuries all season and has appeared in only two games for the Broncos. The team opened his 21-day window for return earlier in the week, but it appears unlikely that he’ll play in Week 16 with this new swelling, which Payton confirmed was unrelated to a previous injury. However, Sean Payton did say that he expects Dulcich to play in the regular season, so it’s sounds like there’s some optimism that he’ll return to action by Week 17 or 18, not that it would help many fantasy managers for this season.

Complete and total bust

 

[JohnnyU]

Broncos TE Greg Dulcich (hamstring/foot) has renewed swelling in his foot, according to head coach Sean Payton.

The second-year tight end has dealt with injuries all season and has appeared in only two games for the Broncos. The team opened his 21-day window for return earlier in the week, but it appears unlikely that he’ll play in Week 16 with this new swelling, which Payton confirmed was unrelated to a previous injury. However, Sean Payton did say that he expects Dulcich to play in the regular season, so it’s sounds like there’s some optimism that he’ll return to action by Week 17 or 18, not that it would help many fantasy managers for this season.

Complete and total bust

Little early for that isn't it considering he has been injured all year?

 

[menobrown]

Broncos TE Greg Dulcich (hamstring/foot) has renewed swelling in his foot, according to head coach Sean Payton.

The second-year tight end has dealt with injuries all season and has appeared in only two games for the Broncos. The team opened his 21-day window for return earlier in the week, but it appears unlikely that he’ll play in Week 16 with this new swelling, which Payton confirmed was unrelated to a previous injury. However, Sean Payton did say that he expects Dulcich to play in the regular season, so it’s sounds like there’s some optimism that he’ll return to action by Week 17 or 18, not that it would help many fantasy managers for this season.

Complete and total bust

Little early for that isn't it considering he has been injured all year?

Right. All we know right now is that he was a bust this year and it's fair to have extreme concerns he can ever remain healthy.

The talent has flashed. But it's all still a mystery on how Payton wanted to use him. I own(ed) him a lot and really don't even know what I lost, might have been huge, or not.

At this point I'm just hoping to get a game or two out of him this year to see if we can pick up on his intended use so I can try and figure out what we got in this offense but doubt he'll get much run in a game if he plays at all this year.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Broncos TE Greg Dulcich (hamstring/foot) has renewed swelling in his foot, according to head coach Sean Payton.

The second-year tight end has dealt with injuries all season and has appeared in only two games for the Broncos. The team opened his 21-day window for return earlier in the week, but it appears unlikely that he’ll play in Week 16 with this new swelling, which Payton confirmed was unrelated to a previous injury. However, Sean Payton did say that he expects Dulcich to play in the regular season, so it’s sounds like there’s some optimism that he’ll return to action by Week 17 or 18, not that it would help many fantasy managers for this season.

Complete and total bust

Little early for that isn't it considering he has been injured all year?

Right. All we know right now is that he was a bust this year and it's fair to have extreme concerns he can ever remain healthy.

The talent has flashed. But it's all still a mystery on how Payton wanted to use him. I own(ed) him a lot and really don't even know what I lost, might have been huge, or not.

At this point I'm just hoping to get a game or two out of him this year to see if we can pick up on his intended use so I can try and figure out what we got in this offense but doubt he'll get much run in a game if he plays at all this year.

No reason to rush him back at this point. He's going to need a couple games of limited action to just even get back to the rhythm of playing against real competition. It would be the equivalent of whatever Trautman is going to offer. And then the season is over. Just let him take the next 8 months off and try again next season.

 

[menobrown]

Broncos TE Greg Dulcich (hamstring/foot) has renewed swelling in his foot, according to head coach Sean Payton.

The second-year tight end has dealt with injuries all season and has appeared in only two games for the Broncos. The team opened his 21-day window for return earlier in the week, but it appears unlikely that he’ll play in Week 16 with this new swelling, which Payton confirmed was unrelated to a previous injury. However, Sean Payton did say that he expects Dulcich to play in the regular season, so it’s sounds like there’s some optimism that he’ll return to action by Week 17 or 18, not that it would help many fantasy managers for this season.

Complete and total bust

Little early for that isn't it considering he has been injured all year?

Right. All we know right now is that he was a bust this year and it's fair to have extreme concerns he can ever remain healthy.

The talent has flashed. But it's all still a mystery on how Payton wanted to use him. I own(ed) him a lot and really don't even know what I lost, might have been huge, or not.

At this point I'm just hoping to get a game or two out of him this year to see if we can pick up on his intended use so I can try and figure out what we got in this offense but doubt he'll get much run in a game if he plays at all this year.

No reason to rush him back at this point. He's going to need a couple games of limited action to just even get back to the rhythm of playing against real competition. It would be the equivalent of whatever Trautman is going to offer. And then the season is over. Just let him take the next 8 months off and try again next season.

Payton has already said a few times he anticipates him playing this season.

 

[Kevrunner]

Saw he was practicing at training camp today, hoping that he can finally stay healthy, for dynasty owners, unless you have small bench spots, he’s gotta be worth a gamble still I would think.

 

[Max Power]

After the top 15 or so TEs... I think you can arrange 16-32 in any order you want. He falls in that flier range as a guy with upside, but he needs to show something this year to stay on the radar.

 

[Faust]

'It's a blessing to be back': TE Greg Dulcich making an impact early in training camp, grateful to return to practice

 

[Faust]

The Coachspeak Index
#Broncos OC Joe Lombardi on Greg Dulcich:

“You just feel his speed out there. When he’s on the move, it’s hard for people to cover him… Once he catches it, if he’s got some space, you can just feel him just eating up yardage as he turns and runs with the ball. So, just a very explosive player that we’re excited about his health, and hopefully that continues.”

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[Jacob's Ladder]

Get ready. My pick for fantasy breakout for the year. The guy is a flat out mismatch nightmare. He’s had problems staying off the trainer’s table, but the skillset is there. If he has a handle on his health like camp reporting may have you believe, I see you him in a Colston type role. Roll the dice. Boom or bust. League winner or week 3 drop for almost zero cost.

ETA . Full disclosure. Nix looks good. I’ve grabbed Sutton, Franklin and Dulcich. It’s not hard to see Nix throwing for 4K. Someone had to catch those balls and every catcher on the team is cheap cheap cheap.

 

[Stoneworker]

IMO any expectation of a Dulcich breakout should be tempered by the emergence of a relative unknown named Lucas Krull.

At 6'6" 260, super fluid and great hands, Krull flashed last year and Payton loves him. He'll see the field quite a bit this year not just due to talent but my guess is Payton will want to hedge his Dulcich exposure.

"I thought he's had a good week," Payton said about Krull on Thursday. "I said, 'If you didn't notice, everyone in the media was looking down at their rosters to see who [No.] 85 was.' I said, 'Someday soon, they're going to know who 85 is.' He's looking sharp." - Sean Payton May 24, 2024

Sean Payton Hypes Broncos TE Lucas Krull: 'They're Gonna Know Who 85 Is'

Lucas Krull 2023 Highlights

 

[gbill2004]

Thoughts on this dude rest of this season?

 

[Jppaul]

Thoughts on this dude rest of this season?

who?

 

[gbill2004]

Thoughts on this dude rest of this season?

who?

Greg Dulcich.

 

[Jppaul]

Thoughts on this dude rest of this season?

who?

Greg Dulcich.

sorry, I guess my sarcasm, even with didn't come through the internet

 

[gbill2004]

Thoughts on this dude rest of this season?

who?

Greg Dulcich.

sorry, I guess my sarcasm, even with didn't come through the internet

Probably because it wasn't funny.

 

[Jppaul]

Thoughts on this dude rest of this season?

who?

Greg Dulcich.

sorry, I guess my sarcasm, even with didn't come through the internet

Probably because it wasn't funny.

it wasn't supposed to be... it was supposed to be a statement on his FF production, now and into the future. Apologies if that wasn't blantantly obvious.

 

[gbill2004]

Thoughts on this dude rest of this season?

who?

Greg Dulcich.

sorry, I guess my sarcasm, even with didn't come through the internet

Probably because it wasn't funny.

it wasn't supposed to be... it was supposed to be a statement on his FF production, now and into the future. Apologies if that wasn't blantantly obvious.

He had 8 targets two weeks ago, which led the Broncos. He's worth discussing in this current TE lanscspe. Thanks for your valuable contribution

 

[menobrown]

Thoughts on this dude rest of this season?

Tough to say but even in this depressed TE landscape not a lot to feel good about.

Week two was a little encouraging even if the production was lacking. 8 targets, 69.5% route participation which is not great but I think was top 10 for TE's in week two.

Then week three brought a drastic drop in playing time, routes and zero targets.

They were leading early on in that game and he was on the injury report(shocking I know but not for hamstrings) so maybe that was at play but he's an absolute wild card I'd hate to rely on but am forced to on several McBride/Njoku teams this week, unless I can find something else.

Intend to cut him on some dynasty teams today, one of which is TEP.

Would cut and move on most places but mainly play TEP and not a lot sitting around and I"m dealing with a lot of TE injuries.

I think I'm going to be forced to start him in 2-3 leagues this week, depending on health status of my other TE's, and I hope he makes me eat me regret cutting him in those dynasty leagues.

 

[Jppaul]

Thoughts on this dude rest of this season?

who?

Greg Dulcich.

sorry, I guess my sarcasm, even with didn't come through the internet

Probably because it wasn't funny.

it wasn't supposed to be... it was supposed to be a statement on his FF production, now and into the future. Apologies if that wasn't blantantly obvious.

He had 8 targets two weeks ago, which led the Broncos. He's worth discussing in this current TE lanscspe. Thanks for your valuable contribution

how many catches on those 8 targets?

my contribution stands. Also, I never understood the like for this guy to begin with.

you do you, but you asked for feedback, I gave it

 

[ShamrockPride]

Thoughts on this dude rest of this season?

Tough to say but even in this depressed TE landscape not a lot to feel good about.

Week two was a little encouraging even if the production was lacking. 8 targets, 69.5% route participation which is not great but I think was top 10 for TE's in week two.

Then week three brought a drastic drop in playing time, routes and zero targets.

They were leading early on in that game and he was on the injury report(shocking I know but not for hamstrings) so maybe that was at play but he's an absolute wild card I'd hate to rely on but am forced to on several McBride/Njoku teams this week, unless I can find something else.

Intend to cut him on some dynasty teams today, one of which is TEP.

Would cut and move on most places but mainly play TEP and not a lot sitting around and I"m dealing with a lot of TE injuries.

I think I'm going to be forced to start him in 2-3 leagues this week, depending on health status of my other TE's, and I hope he makes me eat me regret cutting him in those dynasty leagues.

The problem was Week 2 he was dropping passes all over the place. Watched him drop 2 that hit him right in the gloves with nobody around him.

You do that and a guy like Payton is going to penalize you. I think that's what the big drop-off in involvement was last week.

 

[gbill2004]

Thoughts on this dude rest of this season?

Tough to say but even in this depressed TE landscape not a lot to feel good about.

Week two was a little encouraging even if the production was lacking. 8 targets, 69.5% route participation which is not great but I think was top 10 for TE's in week two.

Then week three brought a drastic drop in playing time, routes and zero targets.

They were leading early on in that game and he was on the injury report(shocking I know but not for hamstrings) so maybe that was at play but he's an absolute wild card I'd hate to rely on but am forced to on several McBride/Njoku teams this week, unless I can find something else.

Intend to cut him on some dynasty teams today, one of which is TEP.

Would cut and move on most places but mainly play TEP and not a lot sitting around and I"m dealing with a lot of TE injuries.

I think I'm going to be forced to start him in 2-3 leagues this week, depending on health status of my other TE's, and I hope he makes me eat me regret cutting him in those dynasty leagues.

The problem was Week 2 he was dropping passes all over the place. Watched him drop 2 that hit him right in the gloves with nobody around him.

You do that and a guy like Payton is going to penalize you. I think that's what the big drop-off in involvement was last week.

Interesting. I didn't see that game so thanks. He had a really promising rookie season so I see some value here

 

[JohnnyU]

I'm sick of having him on one of my rosters. He's a damn roster clogger.

 

[Jppaul]

He had a really promising rookie season so I see some value here

despite what the numbers suggest, he didn't.

to be fair, i'm biased as Denver sucks at drafting pass catchers, well, all of the offense, except they're ok at drafting OL.

 

[Jppaul]

Denver sucks at drafting pass catchers, well, all of the offense

Hopefully, Nix changes this, but did you know the best QB Denver has ever drafted was Tim Tebow?

 

[JohnnyU]

I will take the first 3rd round rookie pick offered in dynasty for this guy.

 

[Jail]

He hit waivers in both my dynasty leagues today. Not TEP.

 

[socrates]

I am not especially optimistic that Dulcich will ever provide much fantasy production. However, Bo Nix is in the infancy stages of his development. This offense should improve and expand as Nix grows more comfortable and confident.

 

[JohnnyU]

I am not especially optimistic that Dulcich will ever provide much fantasy production. However, Bo Nix is in the infancy stages of his development. This offense should improve and expand as Nix grows more comfortable and confident.

Yes, but isn't it one thing after another with Dulcich? He's in year 3 already.

 

[socrates]

I am not especially optimistic that Dulcich will ever provide much fantasy production. However, Bo Nix is in the infancy stages of his development. This offense should improve and expand as Nix grows more comfortable and confident.

Yes, but isn't it one thing after another with Dulcich? He's in year 3 already.

Absolutely.

 

[menobrown]

I am not especially optimistic that Dulcich will ever provide much fantasy production. However, Bo Nix is in the infancy stages of his development. This offense should improve and expand as Nix grows more comfortable and confident.

Yes, but isn't it one thing after another with Dulcich? He's in year 3 already.

Technically but I view him from the lens of a second year player since he barely played last year.

 

[socrates]

I am not especially optimistic that Dulcich will ever provide much fantasy production. However, Bo Nix is in the infancy stages of his development. This offense should improve and expand as Nix grows more comfortable and confident.

Yes, but isn't it one thing after another with Dulcich? He's in year 3 already.

Technically but I view him from the lens of a second year player since he barely played last year.

Excellent point. Injuries have no doubt hampered his young career. I am not ready to drop Dulcich yet in Dynasty. Dulcich was limited by injury leading up to last week's game, but in Week #2, he led the team in targets, for whatever that is worth.

 

[JohnnyU]

I am not especially optimistic that Dulcich will ever provide much fantasy production. However, Bo Nix is in the infancy stages of his development. This offense should improve and expand as Nix grows more comfortable and confident.

Yes, but isn't it one thing after another with Dulcich? He's in year 3 already.

Technically but I view him from the lens of a second year player since he barely played last year.

Excellent point. Injuries have no doubt hampered his young career. I am not ready to drop Dulcich yet in Dynasty. Dulcich was limited by injury leading up to last week's game, but in Week #2, he led the team in targets, for whatever that is worth.

You have a lot of patience. So does my wife. 27 years into our marriage she is still waiting on me to perform.

 

[Football Jones]

Dulcich's upside is capped because of his blocking. He's terrible. I was pretty high on him coming out and liked what I heard from Payton about the Joker role in the offseason last year, but Dulcich's ceiling has taken a dive.

Kincaid is in a similar situation, although, Knox is a much better player than Trautman. I've always been leery of poor blockers at the TE position, but with the resurgence of the running game in the NFL, the F-type TEs could see their roles lessoned.

Make or break year for Dulcich.

 

[JohnnyU]

Dulcich's upside is capped because of his blocking. He's terrible. I was pretty high on him coming out and liked what I heard from Payton about the Joker role in the offseason last year, but Dulcich's ceiling has taken a dive.

Kincaid is in a similar situation, although, Knox is a much better player than Trautman. I've always been leery of poor blockers at the TE position, but with the resurgence of the running game in the NFL, the F-type TEs could see their roles lessoned.

Make or break year for Dulcich.

Coby Fleener

 

[Football Jones]

Dulcich's upside is capped because of his blocking. He's terrible. I was pretty high on him coming out and liked what I heard from Payton about the Joker role in the offseason last year, but Dulcich's ceiling has taken a dive.

Kincaid is in a similar situation, although, Knox is a much better player than Trautman. I've always been leery of poor blockers at the TE position, but with the resurgence of the running game in the NFL, the F-type TEs could see their roles lessoned.

Make or break year for Dulcich.

Coby Fleener

Many of the F-type TEs have purposely put on weight to play the position in the NFL. I think some of these guys (Dulcich, etc.) would benefit from getting back to their natural weight and move to WR. That’s essentially what they are, anyway (at least on passing downs). They’d be a little quicker/faster with less weight, which would help them in the big slot role that a lot of them do now. 6’3 - 6’5/225 - 235 can be a tough cover for DBs on size, alone.

We might start seeing more Y-types getting drafted higher with how offenses seem to be trending.

 

[Stoneworker]

Dulcich's upside is capped because of his blocking. He's terrible. I was pretty high on him coming out and liked what I heard from Payton about the Joker role in the offseason last year, but Dulcich's ceiling has taken a dive.

Kincaid is in a similar situation, although, Knox is a much better player than Trautman. I've always been leery of poor blockers at the TE position, but with the resurgence of the running game in the NFL, the F-type TEs could see their roles lessoned.

Make or break year for Dulcich.

IMO the blocking was the reason Dulcich's snaps were significantly reduced from Wk 2 to Wk 3. Not the Wk 2 drops.

Denver came out much more aggressive with Nix downfield passing (requiring more pocket time). They also needed (and still need) to get the run game going.

 

[JohnnyU]

Dulcich's upside is capped because of his blocking. He's terrible. I was pretty high on him coming out and liked what I heard from Payton about the Joker role in the offseason last year, but Dulcich's ceiling has taken a dive.

Kincaid is in a similar situation, although, Knox is a much better player than Trautman. I've always been leery of poor blockers at the TE position, but with the resurgence of the running game in the NFL, the F-type TEs could see their roles lessoned.

Make or break year for Dulcich.

IMO the blocking was the reason Dulcich's snaps were significantly reduced from Wk 2 to Wk 3. Not the Wk 2 drops.

Denver came out much more aggressive with Nix downfield passing (requiring more pocket time). They also needed (and still need) to get the run game going.

Can I trade him for a 2025 3rd round rookie pick to another dynasty league? Because my league isn’t interested.