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TE Isaiah Likely, BAL (2 Viewers)

Allegedly. Harbaugh isn’t exactly Mr Transparency.
That's an understatement,

"He's had his back amputated. He's working hard in practice and in the weight room. He'll be questionable next week." :lol:

Seriously, I hope this isn't bad. Baltimore has the best group of pass catchers they've ever had. They are all singular in what they bring and Likely gives them something none of the others do. Plus, this is his contract year.
 
“Small” fracture in his foot. “Could” be back by week 1.

Don’t like foot injuries ☹️
The only small fracture is the one that does not happen to you. Foot injuries can be pesky. I just hope they don't rush him, there is no need. He is in a contract year, so I know he wants to get out on the field asap, but really, I think the league knows he is pretty talented. Be smart and make sure is all the way back before throwing him back in the mix.
 
ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler reports Ravens TE Isaiah Likely suffered “a small foot fracture” and could return for Week 1.
Fowler specifically said, “It’s an early season return and Week 1 is possible.” Likely went down in practice on Tuesday and head coach John Harbaugh told reporters he is expected to be out “a few weeks.” Fowler’s reporting makes the injury sound more significant, though we’re still well over a month out from Week 1. Likely was set to push Mark Andrews for work out of the gates, but the lost practice time will almost certainly prevent that from happening. He could still increase his role as the season goes on, but fantasy managers should plan on him continuing his high-end backup duties to start the year
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“Small” fracture in his foot. “Could” be back by week 1.

Don’t like foot injuries ☹️
The only small fracture is the one that does not happen to you. Foot injuries can be pesky. I just hope they don't rush him, there is no need. He is in a contract year, so I know he wants to get out on the field asap, but really, I think the league knows he is pretty talented. Be smart and make sure is all the way back before throwing him back in the mix.
I’m ok if he misses a few weeks. He was about to get a new contract.
 
Not sure if it was posted in here, but just saw he is Likely to get surgery with a 6 week recovery timeline.

edited to include- Ian tweeted it
 
Not sure if it was posted in here, but just saw he is Likely to get surgery with a 6 week recovery timeline.

edited to include- Ian tweeted it
I think he will be fine for most of the season. Like @efactor said, foot injuries can be tricky, but a small fracture is better than a Lisfranc or Achilles injury.
 
“Small” fracture in his foot. “Could” be back by week 1.

Don’t like foot injuries ☹️
The only small fracture is the one that does not happen to you. Foot injuries can be pesky. I just hope they don't rush him, there is no need. He is in a contract year, so I know he wants to get out on the field asap, but really, I think the league knows he is pretty talented. Be smart and make sure is all the way back before throwing him back in the mix.
I’m at end recovery of 2 small foot fractures right now and pesky is a good description for it.

6 weeks seems realistic but if it’s another week or so it’s hard for me to care to much. I’m heavily invested in Likley in TEP Dynasty leagues but he’s my TE3 or lower in all of them. So long as he’s playing with Andrews he’s more of BB/depth player to me, Andrews himself just a notch above that. I say none of this with respect to their abilities, just very difficult for either to get consistent usage with the other one healthy.

My main fantasy takeaway on this is that Andrews will get off to a super hot start. Could be ideal sell high because it’s not going to continue when Likely is back to full health.

Likley should become a nice discount high upside depth piece in redraft.
 
Every update is getting worse, Andrews might become a decent value
How bad can it be really? A small fracture usually isn't a big deal from what I know and once healed in 6 weeks it's healed. If it was a LisFranc injury I would be more worried. Could he miss a few weeks of the season? Of course. PUP probably to begin the season, but after he is healed from this small fracture, I expect he will be a strong guy to have for the remainder of the season. I only hvae one share in a league I have Andrews, so I don't have a lot of investment to be hoping for something that deep down I don't believe.....or worry about. Now if there is more to this than a small fracture in his foot, then all bets are off.
 
Every update is getting worse, Andrews might become a decent value
How bad can it be really? A small fracture usually isn't a big deal from what I know and once healed in 6 weeks it's healed. If it was a LisFranc injury I would be more worried. Could he miss a few weeks of the season? Of course. PUP probably to begin the season, but after he is healed from this small fracture, I expect he will be a strong guy to have for the remainder of the season. I only hvae one share in a league I have Andrews, so I don't have a lot of investment to be hoping for something that deep down I don't believe.....or worry about. Now if there is more to this than a small fracture in his foot, then all bets are off.
I hear ya, just foot stuff sometimes tends to get complicated and the timeline quickly goes from "will be ready for Beginning of season" to "We hope to have him back before week x"
 
Oh snap, Likely likely to have surgery?

He’s likely likely for week 1, but unknown how likely Likely will be, even though he will 100% still be Likely even if week one isn’t likely.
:oldunsure:

Glad I traded for Andrews this AM! :pickle:
 
BTW, Harbuagh has just updated his timeline and it's now 6-8 weeks.

Based on what I'm adding up to put this in weeks it would mean he would return sometime between games 2-4.
 
BTW, Harbuagh has just updated his timeline and it's now 6-8 weeks.

Based on what I'm adding up to put this in weeks it would mean he would return sometime between games 2-4.
Wouldn't that mean he would have to go on the reserve / pup list after final roster cuts and must have to sit out the first four games of the season?

Here is what I found:
In the NFL, the "PUP" list, or Physically Unable to Perform list, designates players who are injured and unable to participate in football activities. There are two PUP lists: Active/PUP and Reserve/PUP. Players on the Active/PUP list can participate in team meetings and use training facilities, but cannot practice. They count against the active roster limit, but can be activated at any time during training camp. Players on the Reserve/PUP list, which is used after final roster cuts, must sit out the first four games of the season. They don't count against the active roster limit.
 
BTW, Harbuagh has just updated his timeline and it's now 6-8 weeks.

Based on what I'm adding up to put this in weeks it would mean he would return sometime between games 2-4.
Wouldn't that mean he would have to go on the reserve / pup list after final roster cuts and must have to sit out the first four games of the season?

Here is what I found:
In the NFL, the "PUP" list, or Physically Unable to Perform list, designates players who are injured and unable to participate in football activities. There are two PUP lists: Active/PUP and Reserve/PUP. Players on the Active/PUP list can participate in team meetings and use training facilities, but cannot practice. They count against the active roster limit, but can be activated at any time during training camp. Players on the Reserve/PUP list, which is used after final roster cuts, must sit out the first four games of the season. They don't count against the active roster limit.
Would not say they "have to" do these things. They got a few options, including doing nothing. Just focusing on whatever designation they have available during the season, Maybe I'll get one of these labels wrong but it's not what's important, at least for me since if they use any of these designations it would make him IR eligible in my leagues that allow IR>

If they felt reasonably confident he's not ready until around 4 it would behoove them to put him on the Reserve/PUP list. Clear the roster spot, not count as one one of the 8 designated to return from IR usages. Drawback is he's for sure out weeks 1-4.

Putting him on IR also frees up the roster spot, gives them more flexibility in case he can return before week 5 but drawback is they'd be using one of their 8 designated to return from IR allotments.

Do nothing on hope he's back in week 2 or 3 instead of an action that would for sure put him out 4 weeks or burn through a designated return from IR spot.

I'd guess they make their choice on their best estimate they have after cuts are due on when he'll be good to return.

At this point though if I had to put my money on it I'd guess he gets a designation which makes him IR eligible but just a guess TBD.
 
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Ravens Bye is week 7 also. No doubt if he's healed he'll be back on the field right away but got to wonder if there's any complications or setbacks there's a Likely chance we may not see him until week 8.
 
Athletic Article by Ravens beat writer

Likely isn’t expected to be out for the season. In fact, there’s an outside chance he won’t even miss a regular-season game. An MRI taken revealed a small fracture in the tight end’s left foot. He’ll have surgery to stabilize the foot immediately, and the expectation is that he’ll be sidelined for six to eight weeks.

The Ravens’ regular-season opener against the Buffalo Bills is about five weeks away, so it seems overly optimistic to think Likely will be in action on “Sunday Night Football” at Highmark Stadium. However, it’s too early to rule it out. That, in itself, is a win for a Ravens team that depends heavily on its tight ends.


:shrug:
 
To me the biggest disappointment here is there was a lot of smoke around Ravens trading Andrews this year and the Likely injury basically closes the door on this; at the very least it lowers the probability drastically especially if they start out hot and remain SB frontrunners. Not trading Andrews also keeps the possibility open they resign him in the offseason. I think the odds are still very low that happens, but I was looking forward to those odds dropping to 0% pending trading him.

I guess if you are in a rebuild and trying to tank it out for a high draft spot in 2026 its potential good news though; putting off the Likely takeover for another season.
 
To me the biggest disappointment here is there was a lot of smoke around Ravens trading Andrews this year and the Likely injury basically closes the door on this; at the very least it lowers the probability drastically especially if they start out hot and remain SB frontrunners. Not trading Andrews also keeps the possibility open they resign him in the offseason. I think the odds are still very low that happens, but I was looking forward to those odds dropping to 0% pending trading him.

I guess if you are in a rebuild and trying to tank it out for a high draft spot in 2026 its potential good news though; putting off the Likely takeover for another season.
I think at this point in the year the ship had sailed on a Mark Andrews trade regardless of an injury to Likely.
 
To me the biggest disappointment here is there was a lot of smoke around Ravens trading Andrews this year and the Likely injury basically closes the door on this; at the very least it lowers the probability drastically especially if they start out hot and remain SB frontrunners. Not trading Andrews also keeps the possibility open they resign him in the offseason. I think the odds are still very low that happens, but I was looking forward to those odds dropping to 0% pending trading him.

I guess if you are in a rebuild and trying to tank it out for a high draft spot in 2026 its potential good news though; putting off the Likely takeover for another season.
I think at this point in the year the ship had sailed on a Mark Andrews trade regardless of an injury to Likely.
I would have thought so too till I saw like the third article about it in the past two weeks a day before the Likely injury. Not saying that moves the "is this really happening" needle, but it wasn't a one off either. Three different outlets reporting it, felt like a smoke/maybe fire situation.
 
Ian Rapoport
#Ravens TE Isaiah Likely, who is recovering nicely from a broken bone in his foot, is not expected to play in the team’s opener against the #Bills, sources say.

Likely underwent surgery in late July and is healing as expected. He should be ready early in the season.
So is he worth stashing? I punted on TE in my draft and ended up with Henry and Strange. I'm fine rolling with Henry in the first few weeks, especially with his schedule, so Likely makes sense as a stash. The thing that keeps holding me back is that we've been waiting for it to happen for him for years now, and it never seems to. Then again, Andrews is almost certainly in his last year with the team, so you'd think they'd want to hand Likely the keys once he's healthy.

If I don't pick him up, would probably go with Mason Taylor or Ja'Tavion Sanders, who have a whole different type of uncertainty/upside
 
Ian Rapoport
#Ravens TE Isaiah Likely, who is recovering nicely from a broken bone in his foot, is not expected to play in the team’s opener against the #Bills, sources say.

Likely underwent surgery in late July and is healing as expected. He should be ready early in the season.
So is he worth stashing? I punted on TE in my draft and ended up with Henry and Strange. I'm fine rolling with Henry in the first few weeks, especially with his schedule, so Likely makes sense as a stash. The thing that keeps holding me back is that we've been waiting for it to happen for him for years now, and it never seems to. Then again, Andrews is almost certainly in his last year with the team, so you'd think they'd want to hand Likely the keys once he's healthy.

If I don't pick him up, would probably go with Mason Taylor or Ja'Tavion Sanders, who have a whole different type of uncertainty/upside
I'm also weak at TE in one league and looking at Likely and maybe Cade Otton on the waiver wire - Mason Taylor and Ja'Tavion Sanders are both rostered and there's been a buzz associated with both of those players since training camp (I am partial to Sanders and own cheap shares of him in several leagues). I'd go Taylor or Sanders before Likely, who is so up and down week to week - he might make more sense in best ball. I might pull the trigger on Otton actually but the choices are a little rough at this point. I'm thinking some TEs currently rostered will be dropped as we move past week one and some waiver wire darlings emerge.
 
I wouldn't trust Likely for the first half of the season as he is coming off surgery. Andrews is still there and they might ease in Likely - why would they rush him back. I honestly don't think he is worth rostering right now unless you have a bunch of IR spots.
 
Ian Rapoport
#Ravens TE Isaiah Likely, who is recovering nicely from a broken bone in his foot, is not expected to play in the team’s opener against the #Bills, sources say.

Likely underwent surgery in late July and is healing as expected. He should be ready early in the season.
So is he worth stashing? I punted on TE in my draft and ended up with Henry and Strange. I'm fine rolling with Henry in the first few weeks, especially with his schedule, so Likely makes sense as a stash. The thing that keeps holding me back is that we've been waiting for it to happen for him for years now, and it never seems to. Then again, Andrews is almost certainly in his last year with the team, so you'd think they'd want to hand Likely the keys once he's healthy.

If I don't pick him up, would probably go with Mason Taylor or Ja'Tavion Sanders, who have a whole different type of uncertainty/upside
I'm also weak at TE in one league and looking at Likely and maybe Cade Otton on the waiver wire - Mason Taylor and Ja'Tavion Sanders are both rostered and there's been a buzz associated with both of those players since training camp (I am partial to Sanders and own cheap shares of him in several leagues). I'd go Taylor or Sanders before Likely, who is so up and down week to week - he might make more sense in best ball. I might pull the trigger on Otton actually but the choices are a little rough at this point. I'm thinking some TEs currently rostered will be dropped as we move past week one and some waiver wire darlings emerge.
Not to hijack a Likely thread, but what is your opinion of Sanders vs. Taylor? While they're both athletic guys with not a lot of target competition on their teams, I'm inclined to say Sanders because a) he's not a rookie and b) I trust his QB slightly more (imagine anyone saying that about Bryce Young a year ago)
 
Ian Rapoport
#Ravens TE Isaiah Likely, who is recovering nicely from a broken bone in his foot, is not expected to play in the team’s opener against the #Bills, sources say.

Likely underwent surgery in late July and is healing as expected. He should be ready early in the season.
So is he worth stashing? I punted on TE in my draft and ended up with Henry and Strange. I'm fine rolling with Henry in the first few weeks, especially with his schedule, so Likely makes sense as a stash. The thing that keeps holding me back is that we've been waiting for it to happen for him for years now, and it never seems to. Then again, Andrews is almost certainly in his last year with the team, so you'd think they'd want to hand Likely the keys once he's healthy.

If I don't pick him up, would probably go with Mason Taylor or Ja'Tavion Sanders, who have a whole different type of uncertainty/upside
I'm also weak at TE in one league and looking at Likely and maybe Cade Otton on the waiver wire - Mason Taylor and Ja'Tavion Sanders are both rostered and there's been a buzz associated with both of those players since training camp (I am partial to Sanders and own cheap shares of him in several leagues). I'd go Taylor or Sanders before Likely, who is so up and down week to week - he might make more sense in best ball. I might pull the trigger on Otton actually but the choices are a little rough at this point. I'm thinking some TEs currently rostered will be dropped as we move past week one and some waiver wire darlings emerge.
Not to hijack a Likely thread, but what is your opinion of Sanders vs. Taylor? While they're both athletic guys with not a lot of target competition on their teams, I'm inclined to say Sanders because a) he's not a rookie and b) I trust his QB slightly more (imagine anyone saying that about Bryce Young a year ago)
Tough call - Mason Taylor is generally ranked higher by the experts who do this for a living, and for all his faults as a QB, I seem to recall Justin Fields feeding Cole Kmet pretty well in CHI (too lazy to look up the actual stats) - but we are aligned, I like Sanders too. If Bryce Young truly has turned the corner in the pros like I suspect he has, then he is probably a better passing QB than Fields, and with Coker on IR, I think CAR will feature Sanders along with Tet McMillan for at least the first few weeks of the season until Coker returns, if not longer. Both Taylor and Sanders are solid TE prospects though - either one is a nice dart throw at this point. The rookie thing - I dunno, LaPorta and Bowers seem to have blown up that old assumption. For me its about QB play and my tendency to fade all Jets until there's real evidence that they've turned things around.
 
BAL has a wildcard on their roster in Charlie Kolar as well as Andrews and Likely. Kolar hasn’t seen the field much given the depth chart but when he has he looks credible as a pro TE. He’s got great size/mass and depending on the site his RAS coming out (in the same draft as Likely) was either 9.12 or 9.76, meaning he’s a very good athlete. He had serious strength/blocking questions coming into the league but has had 3 years to put on muscle mass and learn blocking skills.

I’m not saying he’ll displace either Andrews or Likely, but if you’re in a big or deep league he might be worth keeping an eye on given the contract situations or in the event of injury.
 
BAL has a wildcard on their roster in Charlie Kolar as well as Andrews and Likely. Kolar hasn’t seen the field much given the depth chart but when he has he looks credible as a pro TE. He’s got great size/mass and depending on the site his RAS coming out (in the same draft as Likely) was either 9.12 or 9.76, meaning he’s a very good athlete. He had serious strength/blocking questions coming into the league but has had 3 years to put on muscle mass and learn blocking skills.

I’m not saying he’ll displace either Andrews or Likely, but if you’re in a big or deep league he might be worth keeping an eye on given the contract situations or in the event of injury.
Good looking out, I actually didn't know much about Kolar and kind of assumed he was a blocking TE. For Henry, Lamar and Zay, I hope he can admirably fill the Likely role. Baltimore's offense was much more efficient last year playing with 2 TEs on the field than it was with just 1.
 
BAL has a wildcard on their roster in Charlie Kolar as well as Andrews and Likely. Kolar hasn’t seen the field much given the depth chart but when he has he looks credible as a pro TE. He’s got great size/mass and depending on the site his RAS coming out (in the same draft as Likely) was either 9.12 or 9.76, meaning he’s a very good athlete. He had serious strength/blocking questions coming into the league but has had 3 years to put on muscle mass and learn blocking skills.

I’m not saying he’ll displace either Andrews or Likely, but if you’re in a big or deep league he might be worth keeping an eye on given the contract situations or in the event of injury.
BAL does like Kolar and eventually my guess is they move on from one of Andrews or Likely and eventually give the TE2 spot to Kolar. If not I could see another team scooping up Kolar to see if he could be their TE1. Obviously he hasn't done anything significant but he does possess a lot of talent and athleticism as you mention. Someone to keep on the radar in dynasty.
 

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