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TE Rico Gathers, Free Agent (1 Viewer)

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Cowboys TE Rico Gathers was arrested for marijuana possession Friday night in Frisco, Texas.

The arrest occurred around 10 PM local time. According to Brandon George of the Dallas Morning News, Gathers has posted bond and is about to be released from jail. Cowboys EVP Stephen Jones implied earlier this week that Gathers was likely to make the team's 53-man roster but Friday's arrest may call that into question. Even if he survives final cuts, the former Baylor basketball player won't have any fantasy significance.

 
Lemme guess, according to some of you, this is now going to be "the reason" that he got cut and wasn't the starting TE in Dallas.

 
Deamon said:
Lemme guess, according to some of you, this is now going to be "the reason" that he got cut and wasn't the starting TE in Dallas.
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According to some this is probably the Cowboys organizations fault.  If they weren't so old school he would already have put up massive numbers and be locked in as a surefire hall of famer and no way they cut him for this then.

 
smbkrypt24 said:
According to some this is probably the Cowboys organizations fault.  If they weren't so old school he would already have put up massive numbers and be locked in as a surefire hall of famer and no way they cut him for this then.
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Ya I was hoping he didn't have any off the field issues so that he could just plain old suck and not be picked up by ANY team and this would be over.  Now it's still going to be that the only things holding him back were his coach in Dallas and his marijuana arrest. 

The only "perfect stash" relating to this guy was the one in his glovebox.

 
Deamon said:
Ya I was hoping he didn't have any off the field issues so that he could just plain old suck and not be picked up by ANY team and this would be over.  Now it's still going to be that the only things holding him back were his coach in Dallas and his marijuana arrest. 

The only "perfect stash" relating to this guy was the one in his glovebox.
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Haha I was trying to find a way to work in the perfect stash into my post, but couldn't.  Solid post.

 
Deamon said:
Lemme guess, according to some of you, this is now going to be "the reason" that he got cut and wasn't the starting TE in Dallas.
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I agree with the first part of your sentence but not the last.  I was hearing he wasn't going to be cut, but now this arrest probably assures it.  As for his playing time, he would have been buried on the depth chart even if he had made the team.

 
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Getting busted for weed while fighting for a roster spot = dumb.

No one says he's a potential superstar.  He can't be as long as he can't be trusted as a full-time player, and as long as he's on Dallas especially, he never would be.  But people do believe he can contribute as a receiver to a team severely lacking in playmakers on offense.

Hopefully if they keep him on the roster, they utilize him at least as a red zone and passing situation receiver and put him in situations where he can contribute but not be relied on to block.  Defenses will have to account for him if he lines up on the outside with either a linebacker or a safety, and he can be a physical mismatch in either case.  If they don't plan to do that, I can't see a reason they'd use a roster spot on him.

He'd get picked up by someone with an offensive scheme that can use that type of player if they cut him.

 
BigSteelThrill said:
Jerruh dont care about no weed or no blow. 

Can you help him win?  Can you help him make a profit?  If so, you're sticking around.
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rockaction said:
Yep. 
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 For the hundred millionth time Jerry isn’t making any personal decisions and hasn’t for about 4 or 5 years. 

 Also, let’s pretend that Jerry Jones is still running things, are the Cowboys the only team with a player who smokes weed? 

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
For the hundred millionth time Jerry isn’t making any personal decisions and hasn’t for about 4 or 5 years. 

 Also, let’s pretend that Jerry Jones is still running things, are the Cowboys the only team with a player who smokes weed? 
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Italics: Okay. Cool.  

Bolded: God no. And I personally think it's stupid that it results in suspension. Guys' careers are getting ruined over something that is relatively private and benign.  

 
I said earlier even The Clapper probably isn't dumb enough to cut Rico. There may very well come a time when it makes sense to cut him, but it certainly isn't right now.

Rico simply has an enormous amount of raw ability/potential & the Cowboys can use a playmaking receiver. It's not rocket science.

For FF purposes, I'm still holding. Like all stashes (with the exception of Rico's kind of stash), they're at the bottom of my roster. How long I hold depends on many factors, but I believe you hold at least until we see what happens in the regular season due to his upside.

If after a few games he's not getting PT, reevaluate the roster spot. That said, as long as the situation is hopeful, I can possibly see myself holding Rico all year & reevaluating in the offseason.

 
So .... as a guy that actually has been following Rico to see if there is any dynasty value.  Did he actually make the team or did he get released?

 
Saint said:
So .... as a guy that actually has been following Rico to see if there is any dynasty value.  Did he actually make the team or did he get released?
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He made the team, dispite his arrest which is even more encouraging. It means they value his talent.

It will be the funny and cool thing to do to say that Jerry and the Cowboys always keep drug drug addicts, but we’re talking about weed here. Every team has two or three guys that have been busted for weed.

 
lod001 said:
He's a zero. I wouldn't even consider him in a 14 team dynasty league. He's not even on a high end passing O.
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I think people are excited because they see him as a fantasy compiler, a touchdown and garbage-time dependent tight end who can't block but can get open and catch the ball.  

He's a guy you can probably grab late and hope goes for sixty yards and a garbage time touch. 

 
Chaka said:
Will everyone please either stop with the nonsense back and forth or take it to PM?

You're killing the thread at a point where it actually may be relevant.

Rico getting busted for weed AND still making the team is a very interesting development.
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Yep. If people can't see the upside with Rico, they're either blind or aren't looking (or don't want to see it). I can't say it any plainer than that.

It doesn't mean he'll ever hit, but Rico is certainly worth a stash in most any dynasty league with him making the 53. The Cowboys are actually a nice situation for Rico, but it remains to be seen if he'll be given a legit chance in Dallas or if they can get creative with his raw talent & see what he can do.

We (& they) should know more by now about Rico's chances to be a move TE/Joker in their offense, but it is what it is.

 
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Has there been any news at all in Dallas as to WHY they kept him?  He can't block, that's obvious, and it doesn't seem they have any use for a TE who can't block like other teams might. 

They certainly didn't need a 4th TE when they have 3 other guys.  None of them are threats in the passing game for anything meaningful like Gathers could be, but why did the Cowboys use a roster spot on Gathers then?  

If he's inactive on gamedays, I'd think the spot could be used better.  If he's active and they use him in the red zone and in obvious passing situations, he can certainly contribute for the Cowboys.  No idea if that'll be enough volume to contribute as a fantasy TE.

I'm in three leagues, I own him in one of the three and he's rostered in the other two also.  All are TE premium with rosters ranging from 24 to 34 players.  

 
Steelers4Life said:
Has there been any news at all in Dallas as to WHY they kept him?  He can't block, that's obvious, and it doesn't seem they have any use for a TE who can't block like other teams might. 

They certainly didn't need a 4th TE when they have 3 other guys.  None of them are threats in the passing game for anything meaningful like Gathers could be, but why did the Cowboys use a roster spot on Gathers then?  

If he's inactive on gamedays, I'd think the spot could be used better.  If he's active and they use him in the red zone and in obvious passing situations, he can certainly contribute for the Cowboys.  No idea if that'll be enough volume to contribute as a fantasy TE.

I'm in three leagues, I own him in one of the three and he's rostered in the other two also.  All are TE premium with rosters ranging from 24 to 34 players.  
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Nobody knows. Like I said in my previous post, we SHOULD know more, but Garrett & company have handled Rico poorly.

I'll be interesting to see if he's active week 1. I honestly have no idea.

My advice, especially in TE premium leagues, is to at least hold him through week 1 & see what happens.

 
After a summer of bashing him and with every beat writer and know-it-all saying he'd be cut, the Cowboys used a roster spot on him despite carrying three other tight ends and a marijuana-related arrest that morning.  A team that doesn't place some value on his abilities wouldn't have done that in that situation, but people are so blinded by what they think they know that they aren't even noticing that.  Or maybe it's just the Cowboys being stupid, who knows.  Maybe he's eventually cut later this week or soon after the season starts.  But until his role is determined, it's foolish for anyone to think they know.

I'm not sure why people are so adamantly against Gathers.  He's STILL a better lottery ticket than the guys who are littering the bench of every somewhat deep league who lack upside and most of whom aren't anything but mediocre even if they do hit.  IF he manages to land in a situation where he can catch passes but not be asked to block, how relevant he can be will depend entirely on how much action he sees.  Anyone who thinks they know how that'll work out is way too full of themselves and not really worth responding to.  Dialogue is cool and everyone can have different opinions.  But no need to be a #####.  So much stupidity in this thread,

 
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Steelers4Life said:
After a summer of bashing him and with every beat writer and know-it-all saying he'd be cut, the Cowboys used a roster spot on him despite carrying three other tight ends and a marijuana-related arrest that morning.  A team that doesn't place some value on his abilities wouldn't have done that in that situation, but people are so blinded by what they think they know that they aren't even noticing that.  Or maybe it's just the Cowboys being stupid, who knows.  Maybe he's eventually cut later this week or soon after the season starts.  But until his role is determined, it's foolish for anyone to think they know.

I'm not sure why people are so adamantly against Gathers.  He's STILL a better lottery ticket than the guys who are littering the bench of every somewhat deep league who lack upside and most of whom aren't anything but mediocre even if they do hit.  IF he manages to land in a situation where he can catch passes but not be asked to block, how relevant he can be will depend entirely on how much action he sees.  Anyone who thinks they know how that'll work out is way too full of themselves and not really worth responding to.  Dialogue is cool and everyone can have different opinions.  But no need to be a #####.  So much stupidity in this thread,
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I prefer a much different lotto ticket TE than Rico. He doesnt even have a thread yet. I may very well start one

 
modogg said:
oh c'mon. Dude is a scrub who may get a few catches for the Cowboys because they have a horrendous team and no options for pass catchers. Their number 1 guy is a dude who is always hurt and was the #2 in that lovely Jax passing game for the last few years. 

this thread is a joke, because Rico Gathers is a joke
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You make a valid point and I was completely on board with it right up until Rico made the team after getting busted for weed.

He looks a lot more like a stash today than he has at any point.

He doesn't offer redraft value but he apparently has shown enough to convince the Cowboys he may offer ROI in the future.

 
Steelers4Life said:
After a summer of bashing him and with every beat writer and know-it-all saying he'd be cut, the Cowboys used a roster spot on him despite carrying three other tight ends and a marijuana-related arrest that morning.  A team that doesn't place some value on his abilities wouldn't have done that in that situation, but people are so blinded by what they think they know that they aren't even noticing that.  Or maybe it's just the Cowboys being stupid, who knows.  Maybe he's eventually cut later this week or soon after the season starts.  But until his role is determined, it's foolish for anyone to think they know.

I'm not sure why people are so adamantly against Gathers.  He's STILL a better lottery ticket than the guys who are littering the bench of every somewhat deep league who lack upside and most of whom aren't anything but mediocre even if they do hit.  IF he manages to land in a situation where he can catch passes but not be asked to block, how relevant he can be will depend entirely on how much action he sees.  Anyone who thinks they know how that'll work out is way too full of themselves and not really worth responding to.  Dialogue is cool and everyone can have different opinions.  But no need to be a #####.  So much stupidity in this thread,
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:goodposting:

 
Do not bicker with other posters and call each other names.

Do not talk about how stupid this (or any) thread is.

Do stay on the topic of this (and any other) thread.

 
Chaka said:
You make a valid point and I was completely on board with it right up until Rico made the team after getting busted for weed.

He looks a lot more like a stash today than he has at any point.

He doesn't offer redraft value but he apparently has shown enough to convince the Cowboys he may offer ROI in the future.
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it is a strange one. If the Cowboy intended on keeping him, and he has known weaknesses like blocking, i don't understand why they would not put him in more in the pre-season to get more work. Maybe they think just holding onto him all year and having him just practice with the team will set him up for next year. 

 
Steelers4Life said:
uAfter a summer of bashing him and with every beat writer and know-it-all saying he'd be cut, the Cowboys used a roster spot on him despite carrying three other tight ends and a marijuana-related arrest that morning.  A team that doesn't place some value on his abilities wouldn't have done that in that situation, but people are so blinded by what they think they know that they aren't even noticing that.  Or maybe it's just the Cowboys being stupid, who knows.  Maybe he's eventually cut later this week or soon after the season starts.  But until his role is determined, it's foolish for anyone to think they know.

I'm not sure why people are so adamantly against Gathers.  He's STILL a better lottery ticket than the guys who are littering the bench of every somewhat deep league who lack upside and most of whom aren't anything but mediocre even if they do hit.  IF he manages to land in a situation where he can catch passes but not be asked to block, how relevant he can be will depend entirely on how much action he sees.  Anyone who thinks they know how that'll work out is way too full of themselves and not really worth responding to.  Dialogue is cool and everyone can have different opinions.  But no need to be a #####.  So much stupidity in this thread,
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Good point. I see people mention TE prospects who even if they become their team's starter, would be close to worthless (as far as FF).

One of the most important factors for long-term dynasty success is to know how to manage the bottom of your roster. Upside is key after your starters & top backups, yet some people can't understand why Rico should be stashed in most dynasty leagues.

They'll pass over Rico to roster Joe Blow, who might have an easier path to a starting job or maybe even be a starter (one of the many TEs in the NFL with a limited FF ceiling). So what does Joe Blow get them? A mediocre FF TE at best & similar to what you can find in waivers on a weekly basis. This kind of mistake is made over & over & over again.

No thanks. It makes much more sense to use your last roster spot on a player with Rico's potential.

 
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modogg said:
it is a strange one. If the Cowboy intended on keeping him, and he has known weaknesses like blocking, i don't understand why they would not put him in more in the pre-season to get more work. Maybe they think just holding onto him all year and having him just practice with the team will set him up for next year. 
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Not directed at you personally, but the issue with his blocking seems overblown at this point. Yes, it's more important in the Cowboys offense than for other teams, but it's not like Jarwin or Schultz have shown themselves to be amazing blockers either. Rico has size and willingness and that goes a long way. 

 
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