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TE Trey McBride, ARZ (1 Viewer)
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jm192
Footballguy
Ertz is 32. Tore his ACL in November. It's further complicated by a torn MCL. His recovery will be slower than a straight forward ACL tear.
According to Rotoworld, The Cardinals can save 6.8 million by cutting him after June 1.
He may be back and play week 1. But there's a pathway to McBride being TE1 to start the season and maybe all season. No idea what to think of him for redraft. But certainly interesting in Dynasty after this past week's performance.
I'm curious why you posted this in the McBride thread when almost everything for him seems like the arrow is pointing up?
Spookytooth
Footballguy
Every year in my 12 tm 27 man roster dynasty league, I get a mid to late season waiver claim that shouldn’t have been there in the first place. McBride was my lucky available claim this past year
The Frankman
Footballguy
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Not seeing much buzz here yet, but damn I'm all in on this guy with Ertz on IR
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Because I think he can do more with Ertz's role, assuming their reps consolidate somewhat. Ertz had three games with six catches so far, and that is basically a cap and drop spot. I think McBride could do some work after the catch and craft bigger role.
brewer
Footballguy
Because if he really gets all of his points plus what Zach Ertz was getting, he would be sitting around TE5 right now.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Trey seems like a pretty good consolation prize for missing out on Kinkaid.
Kyler Murray coming back would be one reason
Terpman22
Footballguy
Bc they were kinda splitting targets. McBride should now get all the targets he was getting himself (3 per game) + what Ertz was getting (6+ per game). He should produce moving forward.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
With all due respect, what size leagues are we talking if Ertz is on your wires? I can see that in 10 team leagues, but the position being such a void, ertz was rostered in everything 12 teams and up. I'm not saying he or McBride is a stud but he's young guy on a team that will be in bad game scripts.
You could say same thing about Kincaid/Knox.
I would imagine in single PPR leagues he's a high quality flier at least. I play in 32 TE premium redraft/dynasty leagues and neither Ertz or McBride are available in a single one, and most of the rosters are 20 with one going to 22.
People started moving on McBride heavily last week in my leagues, he was available in several until last week. I can't speak for others but I started picking him up in a few leagues last week on notion Ertz stood a good chance of getting traded. Why they featured old Ertz so heavily coming off an ACL was confusing to me and for sure seemed like they thought McBride might not be good so I can see someone taking that angle and dismissing him, especially in a non-TE format.
But I'm a stout believer in the year two TE breakout theory. Arizona is 4th in the league right now in TE targets. McBride himself has mainly looked solid to me, nothing spectacular but that was never his game, just a guy that catches everything. But I will say he had that hurdle last week which was the most athletic play I've ever seen from him and we've seen a large amount of highly succesful fantasy TE's who don't wow you with athleticism.
Year two breakout theory, heavy target load which has high chance of sustainability since the team team trailing a lot and does not have a strong running game or a lot of weapons, getting Kyler back all at a barren position and my question would be more why would someone not take a flier on him then why.
12 team ppr leagues, Ertz has largly been on the wire all year in all 4 leagues I am in
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Fair enough, had a different experience here, not that it matters significantly but he was 54 percent rostered on CBS before yesterday
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Pulled the trigger on McBride. He should see a ton of targets, Kyler is back soon and the Cards will likely be down a lot, leading to tons of passes.
Worth the risk imo.
Worth the risk imo.
Insein
Footballguy
That's what I'm debating now. Have Meyer on the bench behind Goedert. Wondering if McBride is a better option. Nothing about his 2022 stats screams must have though and the fact that my league mates have left him sitting there all day leads me to believe he's probably just a guy.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
He's just a guy. But he's just a guy in a fantasy postion that's brutal to fill. Seems like he should get targets. That's a start for tight end production
Pietaster2
Footballguy
Was surprised McBride was still on the WW in my competitive redraft money league today when I got him. Dropped a RB handcuff to secure him prior to LaPorta's week nine bye. Shame that McBride will be up against the stingy Browns D that week, but we can't always have it all. I'm excited about this pickup because the upside is huge if most or all of the Ertz targets go to McBride.
Who knows, maybe he'll tear it up the next couple of weeks and I'll shop LaPorta for another piece at a position I need. Or he'll be a "JAG" and I'll just dump him after he serves his bye week fill-in purpose. I got him for free today because my league slept on him, so I just can't lose.
Who knows, maybe he'll tear it up the next couple of weeks and I'll shop LaPorta for another piece at a position I need. Or he'll be a "JAG" and I'll just dump him after he serves his bye week fill-in purpose. I got him for free today because my league slept on him, so I just can't lose.
Phantom Knight
Footballguy
+1 (and Ertz now out of the picture for a while).
Phantom Knight
Footballguy
I just picked him up to back up Waller. My thinking is that I have my starter. This is a backup play, all the known quantities are taken, I'd rather play the upside and see if it pans out especially with Kyler due back hopefully this week. I picked up McBride just before Ertz was moved to the IR, that news clearly leaves me more comfortable with the pickup.
Of course, Waller is more likely to miss games (even now he is questionable with a hammy). Should I have need to start McBride at some point, and should he not have produced enough to inspire confidence, the same JAGS that are available today will most likely still be available.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Has that feel of a 7 target game for 23 yards.
greedygoat
Footballguy
Kincaid went for 30% of FAAB this week and McBride went for 1%.
EBF
Footballguy
McBride is definitely not "just a guy". Pretty talented. Top TE drafted last year. He had a decent little stretch towards the end of his rookie season. A 41 yard game, a 55 yard game, and a 78 yard game all within 4 weeks. Not earth-shattering, but solid. I was very surprised to see the ghost of Zach Ertz favored over him to start the season. Could be a slight arrow down, or could just be a team showing too much deference to the vet.
There's an interesting ceiling here now that Ertz is out of the picture. I think McBride has potential to become a Chris Cooley or Owen Daniels level TE, which is to say not elite, but startable in FF. Game script should favor his chances, though the QB situation is problematic until Kyler is back. Well worth a roll of the dice though.
One caveat I'll add is that it seems curiously hard for TEs to make the jump to real relevance. It's like there's a glass ceiling above everyone who isn't Andrews or Kelce. Some pretty talented guys have not been able to crack weekly relevance. I was high on people like Engram, Ebron, Njoku, and Hurst. It never really happened for them in FF. I could see that outcome for McBride because it's hard to break out of that 450-600 yard type of territory. And while I don't think he's a JAG, I don't think he has a Gronk/Gonzo/Kelce type of ceiling either.
There's an interesting ceiling here now that Ertz is out of the picture. I think McBride has potential to become a Chris Cooley or Owen Daniels level TE, which is to say not elite, but startable in FF. Game script should favor his chances, though the QB situation is problematic until Kyler is back. Well worth a roll of the dice though.
One caveat I'll add is that it seems curiously hard for TEs to make the jump to real relevance. It's like there's a glass ceiling above everyone who isn't Andrews or Kelce. Some pretty talented guys have not been able to crack weekly relevance. I was high on people like Engram, Ebron, Njoku, and Hurst. It never really happened for them in FF. I could see that outcome for McBride because it's hard to break out of that 450-600 yard type of territory. And while I don't think he's a JAG, I don't think he has a Gronk/Gonzo/Kelce type of ceiling either.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Debating dropping pitts for him as my TE2. Will try to trade him first but I think Trey out performs him the rest of the way. Pitts schedule the only thing going for him
FairWarning
Footballguy
Picked him up to replace Goddard on his bye in two weeks, too bad it’s vs Cleveland. hoping the game script favors him, AZ seems to use the TE a decent amount.
I believe I read today that Ertz was #6 YTD in TE targets. Those targets have to go somewhere so why not McBride.
Pietaster2
Footballguy
I’m doing the same thing while LaPorta’s on bye. If they target McBride 9 times and he goes 6 of 9 with 50 yards and a TD and gets us 17 points, we’ll be smiling.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
BAL has given up the 2nd fewest points to TE in PPR
CLE (Wk 9) has given up the fewest points to TE in PPR
GLA
CLE (Wk 9) has given up the fewest points to TE in PPR
GLA
coyote5
Footballguy
Buzz kill.
