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Teams where no one RB is likely to get 15-20 touches (1 Viewer)

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These days it's nice just to find a RB that is going to get 15+ touches a game, they're getting harder and harder to find. I thought it might be interesting to get a rundown of teams where it likely is a 2 or 3 back approach and not any one RB is likely to get 15-20 touches a game.

1. Green Bay: Since Ryan Grant checked out 2 years ago it has been a miss mash of stuff and none of it seems to stick. It could be they just haven't found the new guy but this offense does not seem to allow a RB to get any rhythm going and so I have to think the upside for the RB1 is about 10-15 carries a game tops. Maybe more in the 9-12 range with a pretty decent split going to 2 backs here. If the guys are never going to get a big workload then what is the point of having them on your roster? Or better yet just pass on them.

2. Miami: The preseason game the other night showed Daniel Thomas has a few more moves we didn't see last season. Watched him hurdle a guy on a pass out int he flat, turned it up for another 3-4 yards, that was impressive. I think Bush will be more of a receiver than a running back. I would not be surprised if Thomas ends up with the most carries now as I see the offense starting to come together. Maybe Bush will have something like 8-10 carries a game, 4-5 receptions and that will flux a lot as the Miami passing game is very stitched together right now...Thomas to me looks like 10-12 carries a game, 1-2 catches as well, Lama Miller an afterthought at this point. Thomas will get most of the goal line work. He is going so late int he drafts, like him in best ball as an RB5 that will score higher for you. But at the end of the day no matter how great he does he likely is not going to see more than about half the load tops...if Bush were to go down however I could see Thomas getting a much bigger workload.

3. Detroit: You tell me I'm wrong. Kevin Smith has gone from undrafted to 5th round now. Someone has to explain that to me because he hasn't been able to handle a full workload yet. The OL is not there yet, I see Detroit going back to airing it out as much as possible. Who is going to touch it 20 times a game here in the backfield?

4. New Orleans: So many mouths to feed and Pierre Thomas is still a factor there. Ivory might have to be cut, he would be unemployed for about 2 minutes.

What have you all got?

 
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These days it's nice just to find a RB that is going to get 15+ touches a game, they're getting harder and harder to find. I thought it might be interesting to get a rundown of teams where it likely is a 2 or 3 back approach and not any one RB is likely to get 15-20 touches a game. 1. Green Bay: Since Ryan Grant checked out 2 years ago it has been a miss mash of stuff and none of it seems to stick. It could be they just haven't found the new guy but this offense does not seem to allow a RB to get many rhythm going and so I have to think the upside for the RB1 is about 10-15 carries a game tops. Maybe more in the 9-12 range with a pretty decent split going to 2 backs here. If the guys are never going to get a big workload then what is the point of having them on your roster? Or better yet just pass on them. 2. Miami: The preseason game the other night showed Daniel Thomas has a few more moves we didn't see last season. Watched him hurdle a guy on a pass out int he flat, turned it up for another 3-4 yards, that was impressive. I think Bush will be more of a receiver than a running back. I would not be surprised if Thomas ends up with the most carries now as I see the offense starting to come together. Maybe Bush will have something like 8-10 carries a game, 4-5 receptions and that will flux a lot as the Miami passing game is very stitched together right now...Thomas to me looks like 10-12 carries a game, 1-2 catches as well, Lama Miller an afterthought at this point. Thomas will get most of the goal line work. He is going so late int he drafts, like him in best ball as an RB5 that will score higher for you. But at the end of the day no matter how great he does he likely is not going to see more than about half the load tops...if Bush were to go down however I could see Thomas getting a much bigger workload. 3. Detroit: You tell me I'm wrong. Kevin Smith has gone from undrafted to 5th round now. Someone has to explain that to me because he hasn't been able to handle a full workload yet. The OL is not there yet, I see Detroit going back to airing it out as much as possible. Who is going to touch it 20 times a game here in the backfield?4. New Orleans: So many mouths to feed and Pierre Thomas is still a factor there. Ivory might have to be cut, he would be unemployed for about 2 minutes. What have you all got?
Carolina - With three NFL caliber starting RBs on their roster they all will be feed the ball. Worse yet, DeAngelo is looking better catching the ball this year and Tolbert is showing amazing power. Stewart is caught in a sandwich where either Williams or Tolbert could replace him. Throw Cam in the mix as a running threat and the touches get even thinner.
 
personally I think Smith gets 15+ touches....right now he is plan A, B, and C in the backfield...they also look to him in the passing game....and IIRC he had some decent receptions with nice YAC ability last year....I also think the fact that he is on a high powered offense that should be making frequent trips into the red zone is a bonus....not a ton of 3 and out in DET....Smith will be on the field a ton and if DET gets out to a decent lead (and even if they don't) I think Smith has a very good shot at plenty of touches...how that changes when LeShoure comes back...I'm not sure tho...

 
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These days it's nice just to find a RB that is going to get 15+ touches a game, they're getting harder and harder to find. I thought it might be interesting to get a rundown of teams where it likely is a 2 or 3 back approach and not any one RB is likely to get 15-20 touches a game. 1. Green Bay: Since Ryan Grant checked out 2 years ago it has been a miss mash of stuff and none of it seems to stick. It could be they just haven't found the new guy but this offense does not seem to allow a RB to get many rhythm going and so I have to think the upside for the RB1 is about 10-15 carries a game tops. Maybe more in the 9-12 range with a pretty decent split going to 2 backs here. If the guys are never going to get a big workload then what is the point of having them on your roster? Or better yet just pass on them. 2. Miami: The preseason game the other night showed Daniel Thomas has a few more moves we didn't see last season. Watched him hurdle a guy on a pass out int he flat, turned it up for another 3-4 yards, that was impressive. I think Bush will be more of a receiver than a running back. I would not be surprised if Thomas ends up with the most carries now as I see the offense starting to come together. Maybe Bush will have something like 8-10 carries a game, 4-5 receptions and that will flux a lot as the Miami passing game is very stitched together right now...Thomas to me looks like 10-12 carries a game, 1-2 catches as well, Lama Miller an afterthought at this point. Thomas will get most of the goal line work. He is going so late int he drafts, like him in best ball as an RB5 that will score higher for you. But at the end of the day no matter how great he does he likely is not going to see more than about half the load tops...if Bush were to go down however I could see Thomas getting a much bigger workload. 3. Detroit: You tell me I'm wrong. Kevin Smith has gone from undrafted to 5th round now. Someone has to explain that to me because he hasn't been able to handle a full workload yet. The OL is not there yet, I see Detroit going back to airing it out as much as possible. Who is going to touch it 20 times a game here in the backfield?4. New Orleans: So many mouths to feed and Pierre Thomas is still a factor there. Ivory might have to be cut, he would be unemployed for about 2 minutes. What have you all got?
Carolina - With three NFL caliber starting RBs on their roster they all will be feed the ball. Worse yet, DeAngelo is looking better catching the ball this year and Tolbert is showing amazing power. Stewart is caught in a sandwich where either Williams or Tolbert could replace him. Throw Cam in the mix as a running threat and the touches get even thinner.
Good 1 BnB, wasn't sure how to frame that. I do think every week that either DWill or JStew will get 15+ touches but when and who and how...that's a mystery, add in Tolbert for good measure and I'm right there with you.
 
Patriots and Redskins, perenially
I thought about both, good choices. I knew there would be more than 4 or 5. I'm thinking at least 1/3 of the league is like this.
personally I think Smith gets 15+ touches....right now he is plan A, B, and C in the backfield...they also look to him in the passing game....and IIRC he had some decent receptions with nice YAC ability last year....I also think the fact that he is on a high powered offense that should be making frequent trips into the red zone is a bonus....not a ton of 3 and out in DET....Smith will be on the field a ton and if DET gets out to a decent lead (and even if they don't) I think Smith has a very good shot at plenty of touches...how that changes when LeShoure comes back...I'm not sure tho...
Nice counterpunch/point SR.
 
These days it's nice just to find a RB that is going to get 15+ touches a game, they're getting harder and harder to find. I thought it might be interesting to get a rundown of teams where it likely is a 2 or 3 back approach and not any one RB is likely to get 15-20 touches a game. 1. Green Bay: Since Ryan Grant checked out 2 years ago it has been a miss mash of stuff and none of it seems to stick. It could be they just haven't found the new guy but this offense does not seem to allow a RB to get any rhythm going and so I have to think the upside for the RB1 is about 10-15 carries a game tops. Maybe more in the 9-12 range with a pretty decent split going to 2 backs here. If the guys are never going to get a big workload then what is the point of having them on your roster? Or better yet just pass on them. 2. Miami: The preseason game the other night showed Daniel Thomas has a few more moves we didn't see last season. Watched him hurdle a guy on a pass out int he flat, turned it up for another 3-4 yards, that was impressive. I think Bush will be more of a receiver than a running back. I would not be surprised if Thomas ends up with the most carries now as I see the offense starting to come together. Maybe Bush will have something like 8-10 carries a game, 4-5 receptions and that will flux a lot as the Miami passing game is very stitched together right now...Thomas to me looks like 10-12 carries a game, 1-2 catches as well, Lama Miller an afterthought at this point. Thomas will get most of the goal line work. He is going so late int he drafts, like him in best ball as an RB5 that will score higher for you. But at the end of the day no matter how great he does he likely is not going to see more than about half the load tops...if Bush were to go down however I could see Thomas getting a much bigger workload. 3. Detroit: You tell me I'm wrong. Kevin Smith has gone from undrafted to 5th round now. Someone has to explain that to me because he hasn't been able to handle a full workload yet. The OL is not there yet, I see Detroit going back to airing it out as much as possible. Who is going to touch it 20 times a game here in the backfield?4. New Orleans: So many mouths to feed and Pierre Thomas is still a factor there. Ivory might have to be cut, he would be unemployed for about 2 minutes. What have you all got?
I don't think K Smith is going to get 20 touches/game, after the 1st 2 weeks. With LeShoure out weeks 1-2, and Best probably going on the PUP, you've got Smith, Williams, and Bell. I figure weeks 1-2, Smith will get about 16 carries/game, and 3-4 receptions/game. So he might get 20/game those 2 weeks. After LeShoure comes back, assuming he's healthy, I would expect Smith to drop to around 10-12 carries/game, but I would expect the receptions to stay about the same (he's a pretty good receiver). This is, of course, reliant on Smith's health. I am definitely intrigued by your take on Miami. I don't think they are going to be a offensive juggernaut, but if Thomas were to get around 200 total touches, he could pose some value. I would love to hear other opinions about Miami's RBs.
 
IMO Reggie Bush is a lock for 15+ touches in Miami. He could easily have 50 catches.

Agree with Packers, Lions, Saints, Redskins and Patriots though.

 
These days it's nice just to find a RB that is going to get 15+ touches a game, they're getting harder and harder to find. I thought it might be interesting to get a rundown of teams where it likely is a 2 or 3 back approach and not any one RB is likely to get 15-20 touches a game. 1. Green Bay: Since Ryan Grant checked out 2 years ago it has been a miss mash of stuff and none of it seems to stick. It could be they just haven't found the new guy but this offense does not seem to allow a RB to get any rhythm going and so I have to think the upside for the RB1 is about 10-15 carries a game tops. Maybe more in the 9-12 range with a pretty decent split going to 2 backs here. If the guys are never going to get a big workload then what is the point of having them on your roster? Or better yet just pass on them. 2. Miami: The preseason game the other night showed Daniel Thomas has a few more moves we didn't see last season. Watched him hurdle a guy on a pass out int he flat, turned it up for another 3-4 yards, that was impressive. I think Bush will be more of a receiver than a running back. I would not be surprised if Thomas ends up with the most carries now as I see the offense starting to come together. Maybe Bush will have something like 8-10 carries a game, 4-5 receptions and that will flux a lot as the Miami passing game is very stitched together right now...Thomas to me looks like 10-12 carries a game, 1-2 catches as well, Lama Miller an afterthought at this point. Thomas will get most of the goal line work. He is going so late int he drafts, like him in best ball as an RB5 that will score higher for you. But at the end of the day no matter how great he does he likely is not going to see more than about half the load tops...if Bush were to go down however I could see Thomas getting a much bigger workload. 3. Detroit: You tell me I'm wrong. Kevin Smith has gone from undrafted to 5th round now. Someone has to explain that to me because he hasn't been able to handle a full workload yet. The OL is not there yet, I see Detroit going back to airing it out as much as possible. Who is going to touch it 20 times a game here in the backfield?4. New Orleans: So many mouths to feed and Pierre Thomas is still a factor there. Ivory might have to be cut, he would be unemployed for about 2 minutes. What have you all got?
I don't think K Smith is going to get 20 touches/game, after the 1st 2 weeks. With LeShoure out weeks 1-2, and Best probably going on the PUP, you've got Smith, Williams, and Bell. I figure weeks 1-2, Smith will get about 16 carries/game, and 3-4 receptions/game. So he might get 20/game those 2 weeks. After LeShoure comes back, assuming he's healthy, I would expect Smith to drop to around 10-12 carries/game, but I would expect the receptions to stay about the same (he's a pretty good receiver). This is, of course, reliant on Smith's health. I am definitely intrigued by your take on Miami. I don't think they are going to be a offensive juggernaut, but if Thomas were to get around 200 total touches, he could pose some value. I would love to hear other opinions about Miami's RBs.
I'm a huge Lamar Miller fan, big Canesfan, he is not blowing anyone away at camp or in the games right now and Miami is not asking him to do a lot either meaning they are not giving him a lot of opps. Miller in dynasty, fine, Miller in redraft, he shouldn't even be on your list. Thomas will see the goal line work. I can see him getting 12-13 carries a game, his box score over 4 weeks might look like this...13/45/TD, 2/8...9/26, 3/15...14/50/TD, 1/10...8/20, no rec...I think Thomas could have upside of about 7-8 rushing TD assuming Tannehill doesn't scramble which he might but that also would lengthen drives out which is not a bad things for Miami. Bush I see as getting about 7-10 carries a game but a lot more receptions...8/30, 5/40...9/35, 4/28/TD...10/50, 3/25...11/44, 5/35...I just don't see where Miami is going to be pounding the ball with Bush like Sporano did last season.
 
IMO Reggie Bush is a lock for 15+ touches in Miami. He could easily have 50 catches.Agree with Packers, Lions, Saints, Redskins and Patriots though.
Miami is not focusing on running the ball much when he is out there, seem much more intent to run with Thomas in the game. Just my observations from the other night, could be completely wrong.
 
1. Green Bay: Since Ryan Grant checked out 2 years ago it has been a miss mash of stuff and none of it seems to stick. It could be they just haven't found the new guy but this offense does not seem to allow a RB to get any rhythm going and so I have to think the upside for the RB1 is about 10-15 carries a game tops. Maybe more in the 9-12 range with a pretty decent split going to 2 backs here. If the guys are never going to get a big workload then what is the point of having them on your roster? Or better yet just pass on them.
Have to disagree with this the most out of anything. See Ryan grant circa 2007-2009....McCarthy loves to have a 1 back system to allow them to be the focal point for the running game but no one seized the job in the past. He was even quoted as to saying something to this sort in the past couple weeks that he prefers a 1 back system instead of the RBBC approach. "Green Bay Packers ‏@packers---McCarthy: Don't prefer RB by committee, players determine it. There's benefits to it, but if an individual can carry load, he will. #Packers"I think this is the reason why you almost need to take Starks and Benson on draft day both for very cheap and then see which one breaks out.Current ADP:Benson - 113Starks - 135Of note: I personally would only go this route if you go QB-WR-WR-TE in your first 4 picks making you need to be creative on your RB starters like Brown, BGE, Stewart, Hillis, Hightower. Benson/Starks would be a great RB3 with potential and hopefully by week 7 or 8 you could actually drop one of them for an up and comer waiver wire acquistion.
 
I'll add SF to this list. Gore had a pretty solid 18.5 touches per game, but I don't see him getting close to those numbers for three main reasons:

1) Age/durability concerns. Gore has been healthier than he normally gets credit for, but with his age and mileage, I expect SF will try to reduce his overall load.

2) Hunter is a legit NFL RB and SF will expand his role, partially due to point 1 and partially due to his talent.

3) Game plan. I don't see SF being as run dominant this year due to a tougher schedule and the investment in the passing game.

 
These days it's nice just to find a RB that is going to get 15+ touches a game, they're getting harder and harder to find. I thought it might be interesting to get a rundown of teams where it likely is a 2 or 3 back approach and not any one RB is likely to get 15-20 touches a game. 1. Green Bay: Since Ryan Grant checked out 2 years ago it has been a miss mash of stuff and none of it seems to stick. It could be they just haven't found the new guy but this offense does not seem to allow a RB to get many rhythm going and so I have to think the upside for the RB1 is about 10-15 carries a game tops. Maybe more in the 9-12 range with a pretty decent split going to 2 backs here. If the guys are never going to get a big workload then what is the point of having them on your roster? Or better yet just pass on them. 2. Miami: The preseason game the other night showed Daniel Thomas has a few more moves we didn't see last season. Watched him hurdle a guy on a pass out int he flat, turned it up for another 3-4 yards, that was impressive. I think Bush will be more of a receiver than a running back. I would not be surprised if Thomas ends up with the most carries now as I see the offense starting to come together. Maybe Bush will have something like 8-10 carries a game, 4-5 receptions and that will flux a lot as the Miami passing game is very stitched together right now...Thomas to me looks like 10-12 carries a game, 1-2 catches as well, Lama Miller an afterthought at this point. Thomas will get most of the goal line work. He is going so late int he drafts, like him in best ball as an RB5 that will score higher for you. But at the end of the day no matter how great he does he likely is not going to see more than about half the load tops...if Bush were to go down however I could see Thomas getting a much bigger workload. 3. Detroit: You tell me I'm wrong. Kevin Smith has gone from undrafted to 5th round now. Someone has to explain that to me because he hasn't been able to handle a full workload yet. The OL is not there yet, I see Detroit going back to airing it out as much as possible. Who is going to touch it 20 times a game here in the backfield?4. New Orleans: So many mouths to feed and Pierre Thomas is still a factor there. Ivory might have to be cut, he would be unemployed for about 2 minutes. What have you all got?
Carolina - With three NFL caliber starting RBs on their roster they all will be feed the ball. Worse yet, DeAngelo is looking better catching the ball this year and Tolbert is showing amazing power. Stewart is caught in a sandwich where either Williams or Tolbert could replace him. Throw Cam in the mix as a running threat and the touches get even thinner.
Good 1 BnB, wasn't sure how to frame that. I do think every week that either DWill or JStew will get 15+ touches but when and who and how...that's a mystery, add in Tolbert for good measure and I'm right there with you.
That won't happen every week. DWill will start. Likely will get pulled on 3rd down. Will get pulled after any run over 10 yards or any run where he goes OB on the Panthers sideline. Problem is that Tolbert will be in for 50% of the plays at FB and likely all the time inside the 10. DWill and Stew will be within 5 carries of each other most of the games. That means if if Stweart gets 15, Dwill will have 10, Tolbert 5, and Cam another 3-5. 35 touches is starting to get up there.
 

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