Tebow a QB1?! That's what I heard on the audible... (1 Viewer)

[gsmayes]

the next economic bubble will be Tebow-backed securities.

 

[hines]

if anyone watched the game they saw a guy who does not have the release or accuracy needed to put up any sort of consistent fantasy numbers. he was extremely close to one of the worst games of the season. If there is someone in your league who thinks that Tebow is a legit QB1 please trade him now. he will get rushing yards but his passing ability is so low he will have multiple under 100 yard games

 

[Mile High]

Haters hate, others take the fantasy points and add to the wins column.

 

[Reepicheep]

Haters hate, others take the fantasy points and add to the wins column.

Tebow haters, call us when he stops putting up points. Until then, not really interested, thanks.

 

[Mello]

QB4 in my main this week. Probably QB5 after Brees gets done tonight. Still, those are starting fantasy QB numbers and he was awful for the first 57 minutes.

 

[notdarkyet]

I like to think of Tebow with, like, big eagle's wings, singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with, like, an angel band, and I'm in the front row, and I'm hammered drunk...

 

[footballnerd]

if anyone watched the game they saw a guy who does not have the release or accuracy needed to put up any sort of consistent fantasy numbers. he was extremely close to one of the worst games of the season. If there is someone in your league who thinks that Tebow is a legit QB1 please trade him now. he will get rushing yards but his passing ability is so low he will have multiple under 100 yard games

looked like a guy going through his first start of the season, and kicking it into gear when it counted

 

[proninja]

I don't own the guy but I kept hearing him touted on the audible from Bloom..... Something like he's a QB1 should be valued for an RB1 in a trade? Really? If he can't do it against Miami he ain't doing it any time soon.... I like the show and I guess you have to take a stand but..... Someone should be eating crow this week...

Well, you got that part right

 

[Donnybrook]

I like to think of Tebow with, like, big eagle's wings, singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with, like, an angel band, and I'm in the front row, and I'm hammered drunk...

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

if anyone watched the game they saw a guy who does not have the release or accuracy needed to put up any sort of consistent fantasy numbers. he was extremely close to one of the worst games of the season. If there is someone in your league who thinks that Tebow is a legit QB1 please trade him now. he will get rushing yards but his passing ability is so low he will have multiple under 100 yard games

He's started 4 games in his career and broke 20 fantasy points in each of them. That's as consistent as you get.

 

[Jake22]

If his throws look like that every week, he's gonna have some weeks with some very ugly stats...He overthrew a WIDE OPEN Decker by more than 10 yards, it would have been a sure 80 yard TD too, you can't be missing on those plays every week like that, and the fact that his throw was nowhere near his WR makes me wonder if he can keep doing that and keep his job.

I know he pulled it out in the end with 2 late TD's, but he struggled all day to do it...maybe his throws get better as he plays more, maybe not, we shall see in a few weeks.

 

[Trizzler]

If his throws look like that every week, he's gonna have some weeks with some very ugly stats...He overthrew a WIDE OPEN Decker by more than 10 yards, it would have been a sure 80 yard TD too, you can't be missing on those plays every week like that, and the fact that his throw was nowhere near his WR makes me wonder if he can keep doing that and keep his job.

I know he pulled it out in the end with 2 late TD's, but he struggled all day to do it...maybe his throws get better as he plays more, maybe not, we shall see in a few weeks.

And who exactly would Tebow be losing his job to? Kyle Orton? Brady Quinn?He won the damn game despite being down two scores in the 4th quarter. You don't pay quarterbacks to throw for 300 yards; you pay them to be team leaders and win games. If Tebow can do that without ever throwing for more than 170 yards, then defenses aren't exactly shutting him down.

Not like Denver has Aaron Rodgers or even Matt Flynn on the bench. Tebow is the starter for the remainder of the season, unless Elway becomes so fixated on Luck that he hires a crippled blind hobo off the street to play quarterback.

Cam Newton and Tebow have the same number of career wins, yet Tebow got his two in just four starts. Stop blindly hating the guy and respect the facts.

 

[Run It Up]

QB4 in my main this week. Probably QB5 after Brees gets done tonight. Still, those are starting fantasy QB numbers and he was awful for the first 57 minutes.

Do they play the 0-6 Dolphins every week? How many times does he throw for less than 100 yds in the first 3 QTRs before he doesnt deliver in the 4th QTR? Id imagine somewhere around wk 8.

 

[Angus82]

If his throws look like that every week, he's gonna have some weeks with some very ugly stats...He overthrew a WIDE OPEN Decker by more than 10 yards, it would have been a sure 80 yard TD too, you can't be missing on those plays every week like that, and the fact that his throw was nowhere near his WR makes me wonder if he can keep doing that and keep his job.

I know he pulled it out in the end with 2 late TD's, but he struggled all day to do it...maybe his throws get better as he plays more, maybe not, we shall see in a few weeks.

And who exactly would Tebow be losing his job to? Kyle Orton? Brady Quinn?He won the damn game despite being down two scores in the 4th quarter. You don't pay quarterbacks to throw for 300 yards; you pay them to be team leaders and win games. If Tebow can do that without ever throwing for more than 170 yards, then defenses aren't exactly shutting him down.

Not like Denver has Aaron Rodgers or even Matt Flynn on the bench. Tebow is the starter for the remainder of the season, unless Elway becomes so fixated on Luck that he hires a crippled blind hobo off the street to play quarterback.

Cam Newton and Tebow have the same number of career wins, yet Tebow got his two in just four starts. Stop blindly hating the guy and respect the facts.

"Cam Newton and Tebow have the same number of career wins". You are correct ,sir. As of right now(being a Bills fan) I would take Dalton, Newton, and even Ponder. You obviously are a Tebow fan and can't look outside of your tunnel. Good luck with that. Tebow may lead his team to countless titles. No one knows.

If I had to bet the Bills future on a young Qb, it would not be Tebow. (With all due respect to the facts.)

 

[Apple Jack]

QB4 in my main this week. Probably QB5 after Brees gets done tonight. Still, those are starting fantasy QB numbers and he was awful for the first 57 minutes.

Do they play the 0-6 Dolphins every week? How many times does he throw for less than 100 yds in the first 3 QTRs before he doesnt deliver in the 4th QTR? Id imagine somewhere around wk 8.

You realize that there's more to assessing a QB's fantasy value than the records of the teams they play and what quarters he gets his points, right? It was his first start. This isn't Madden on the XBox. It's the NFL. Most QBs need some real live ammo reps to get a rhythm.I'm beginning to get the impression that the average poster on the website is much younger than I suspected when I got here. The anti-Tebow sentiments around here are near comical. It's almost like people are angry.

 

[killrobotkill]

In the two games Tebow started last year, the half of a game he played last week, and today's game, Tebow has averaged 24.64 fantasy points a game (at least in my league - it's higher in standard leagues). That's a top five average. If there was a guy on the waiver wire that put up that kind of average over 3 1/2 games this year, it wouldn't matter if he threw the ball underhanded, he'd have been snagged off the WW a long time ago. He'll stay in my lineup until he stops giving me 25 points a game, simple as that. The only reason for all the hate is because his name is Tebow.

 

[shnikies]

Absolutely impeccable timing on this thread,

Timing was reasonable, it was posted while Tebow was still playing terrible.

And then he blew up. Broncos about to get the ball back.The timing was perfect. Tried to be the first hater. End up with crow pie.

Cant dump on the guy for that, he was asking a legitimate question about the value of Tebow, which imo this performance is his ceiling. Also, this guy was in no danger of being the first Tebow hater, pretty much 90% of NFL fans are in agreement on that.

His ceiling would be doing what he did in the 4th quarter for a whole game. So, 16 points in the 4th quarter would be 64 points for a game. I'll take 64 points from my qb. It's not great production but I'll take it.

 

[Reepicheep]

In the two games Tebow started last year, the half of a game he played last week, and today's game, Tebow has averaged 24.64 fantasy points a game (at least in my league - it's higher in standard leagues). That's a top five average. If there was a guy on the waiver wire that put up that kind of average over 3 1/2 games this year, it wouldn't matter if he threw the ball underhanded, he'd have been snagged off the WW a long time ago. He'll stay in my lineup until he stops giving me 25 points a game, simple as that. The only reason for all the hate is because his name is Tebow.

For some reason people have a really hard time understanding this.

 

[Kenny Powers]

If his throws look like that every week, he's gonna have some weeks with some very ugly stats...He overthrew a WIDE OPEN Decker by more than 10 yards, it would have been a sure 80 yard TD too, you can't be missing on those plays every week like that, and the fact that his throw was nowhere near his WR makes me wonder if he can keep doing that and keep his job.

I know he pulled it out in the end with 2 late TD's, but he struggled all day to do it...maybe his throws get better as he plays more, maybe not, we shall see in a few weeks.

And who exactly would Tebow be losing his job to? Kyle Orton? Brady Quinn?He won the damn game despite being down two scores in the 4th quarter. You don't pay quarterbacks to throw for 300 yards; you pay them to be team leaders and win games. If Tebow can do that without ever throwing for more than 170 yards, then defenses aren't exactly shutting him down.

Not like Denver has Aaron Rodgers or even Matt Flynn on the bench. Tebow is the starter for the remainder of the season, unless Elway becomes so fixated on Luck that he hires a crippled blind hobo off the street to play quarterback.

Cam Newton and Tebow have the same number of career wins, yet Tebow got his two in just four starts. Stop blindly hating the guy and respect the facts.

"Cam Newton and Tebow have the same number of career wins". You are correct ,sir. As of right now(being a Bills fan) I would take Dalton, Newton, and even Ponder. You obviously are a Tebow fan and can't look outside of your tunnel. Good luck with that. Tebow may lead his team to countless titles. No one knows.

If I had to bet the Bills future on a young Qb, it would not be Tebow. (With all due respect to the facts.)

If I was betting on the future of the Bills with a young QB, I wouldnt pick Tebow either since he's on the Broncos

 

[Run It Up]

His ceiling would be doing what he did in the 4th quarter for a whole game. So, 16 points in the 4th quarter would be 64 points for a game. I'll take 64 points from my qb. It's not great production but I'll take it.

Lmfao, I realize you dont understand this, but to help you better understand why your logic is dumb: So Tom Brady has thrown 5 Touchdowns in a single QTR, so by that logic his ceiling is 20 touchdowns in a single game.

QB4 in my main this week. Probably QB5 after Brees gets done tonight. Still, those are starting fantasy QB numbers and he was awful for the first 57 minutes.

Do they play the 0-6 Dolphins every week? How many times does he throw for less than 100 yds in the first 3 QTRs before he doesnt deliver in the 4th QTR? Id imagine somewhere around wk 8.

You realize that there's more to assessing a QB's fantasy value than the records of the teams they play and what quarters he gets his points, right? It was his first start. This isn't Madden on the XBox. It's the NFL. Most QBs need some real live ammo reps to get a rhythm.I'm beginning to get the impression that the average poster on the website is much younger than I suspected when I got here. The anti-Tebow sentiments around here are near comical. It's almost like people are angry.

First of all, it isnt his first start. Second of all a QBs value in fantasy is determined by his numbers - which are bad, getting by every week doesnt make you a QB1.Seeyah guys next week.

 

[Kenny Powers]

If his throws look like that every week, he's gonna have some weeks with some very ugly stats...He overthrew a WIDE OPEN Decker by more than 10 yards, it would have been a sure 80 yard TD too, you can't be missing on those plays every week like that, and the fact that his throw was nowhere near his WR makes me wonder if he can keep doing that and keep his job.

I know he pulled it out in the end with 2 late TD's, but he struggled all day to do it...maybe his throws get better as he plays more, maybe not, we shall see in a few weeks.

Well, that at least makes me feel better about Decker's statline today

 

[Instinctive]

Having never been a Tebow fan (got the media drools over him) the hate for him astounds me. All the guy has ever done is WIN.

To boot, he gives us great fantasy stats. I'll play him...who the hell cares how he throws the ball?

 

[Angus82]

If his throws look like that every week, he's gonna have some weeks with some very ugly stats...He overthrew a WIDE OPEN Decker by more than 10 yards, it would have been a sure 80 yard TD too, you can't be missing on those plays every week like that, and the fact that his throw was nowhere near his WR makes me wonder if he can keep doing that and keep his job.

I know he pulled it out in the end with 2 late TD's, but he struggled all day to do it...maybe his throws get better as he plays more, maybe not, we shall see in a few weeks.

And who exactly would Tebow be losing his job to? Kyle Orton? Brady Quinn?He won the damn game despite being down two scores in the 4th quarter. You don't pay quarterbacks to throw for 300 yards; you pay them to be team leaders and win games. If Tebow can do that without ever throwing for more than 170 yards, then defenses aren't exactly shutting him down.

Not like Denver has Aaron Rodgers or even Matt Flynn on the bench. Tebow is the starter for the remainder of the season, unless Elway becomes so fixated on Luck that he hires a crippled blind hobo off the street to play quarterback.

Cam Newton and Tebow have the same number of career wins, yet Tebow got his two in just four starts. Stop blindly hating the guy and respect the facts.

"Cam Newton and Tebow have the same number of career wins". You are correct ,sir. As of right now(being a Bills fan) I would take Dalton, Newton, and even Ponder. You obviously are a Tebow fan and can't look outside of your tunnel. Good luck with that. Tebow may lead his team to countless titles. No one knows.

If I had to bet the Bills future on a young Qb, it would not be Tebow. (With all due respect to the facts.)

If I was betting on the future of the Bills with a young QB, I wouldnt pick Tebow either since he's on the Broncos

Thank You Captain Obvious

 

[cvnpoka]

tebow is a great fantasy player, say top 8 ab at worst going forward.. hes also a terrible thrower, maybe the worst in the history of the nfl. i would not have believed it if i didnt see it.

 

[shnikies]

His ceiling would be doing what he did in the 4th quarter for a whole game. So, 16 points in the 4th quarter would be 64 points for a game. I'll take 64 points from my qb. It's not great production but I'll take it.

Lmfao, I realize you dont understand this, but to help you better understand why your logic is dumb: So Tom Brady has thrown 5 Touchdowns in a single QTR, so by that logic his ceiling is 20 touchdowns in a single game.

QB4 in my main this week. Probably QB5 after Brees gets done tonight. Still, those are starting fantasy QB numbers and he was awful for the first 57 minutes.

Do they play the 0-6 Dolphins every week? How many times does he throw for less than 100 yds in the first 3 QTRs before he doesnt deliver in the 4th QTR? Id imagine somewhere around wk 8.

You realize that there's more to assessing a QB's fantasy value than the records of the teams they play and what quarters he gets his points, right? It was his first start. This isn't Madden on the XBox. It's the NFL. Most QBs need some real live ammo reps to get a rhythm.I'm beginning to get the impression that the average poster on the website is much younger than I suspected when I got here. The anti-Tebow sentiments around here are near comical. It's almost like people are angry.

First of all, it isnt his first start. Second of all a QBs value in fantasy is determined by his numbers - which are bad, getting by every week doesnt make you a QB1.Seeyah guys next week.

I'll pretend you didn't take me seriously.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

First of all, it isnt his first start.

Second of all a QBs value in fantasy is determined by his numbers - which are bad, getting by every week doesnt make you a QB1.

Seeyah guys next week.

Right,in his first 3 starts in 2010 he was the highest scoring fantasy QB. How are those bad numbers?

In one half against SD this year he scored 16 fantasy points. How is that bad?

Today, in his 4th career start, he scored 20+ fantasy points.

You just said his numbers (aka "fantasy stats...this being a fantasy football site and all) are bad.

If 23-30 points per game for a QB is bad, what would you describe as good?

(this is like trying to reason with a rock)

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Guys, who cares if he's been good at fantasy football in all of his games!!!!!

 

[placebo]

Maybe he plays in a completion percentage league?

 

[Apple Jack]

His ceiling would be doing what he did in the 4th quarter for a whole game. So, 16 points in the 4th quarter would be 64 points for a game. I'll take 64 points from my qb. It's not great production but I'll take it.

Lmfao, I realize you dont understand this, but to help you better understand why your logic is dumb: So Tom Brady has thrown 5 Touchdowns in a single QTR, so by that logic his ceiling is 20 touchdowns in a single game.

QB4 in my main this week. Probably QB5 after Brees gets done tonight. Still, those are starting fantasy QB numbers and he was awful for the first 57 minutes.

Do they play the 0-6 Dolphins every week? How many times does he throw for less than 100 yds in the first 3 QTRs before he doesnt deliver in the 4th QTR? Id imagine somewhere around wk 8.

You realize that there's more to assessing a QB's fantasy value than the records of the teams they play and what quarters he gets his points, right? It was his first start. This isn't Madden on the XBox. It's the NFL. Most QBs need some real live ammo reps to get a rhythm.I'm beginning to get the impression that the average poster on the website is much younger than I suspected when I got here. The anti-Tebow sentiments around here are near comical. It's almost like people are angry.

First of all, it isnt his first start. Second of all a QBs value in fantasy is determined by his numbers - which are bad, getting by every week doesnt make you a QB1.Seeyah guys next week.

It's his first start of the season. I'm talking game speed and rhythm. Ask Carson Palmer how much a start last season's worth in the context of getting up to game speed and finding rhythm with your receivers.A QBs value in fantasy is determined by his fantasy points - which have been nothing short of QB1 level every game he's played. If that's getting by, then that works.Gee, can't wait.

 

[Astangi]

Happy to own him in every league, but it's gonna take some serious cahones to start him every week.

 

[Apple Jack]

His ceiling would be doing what he did in the 4th quarter for a whole game. So, 16 points in the 4th quarter would be 64 points for a game. I'll take 64 points from my qb. It's not great production but I'll take it.

Lmfao, I realize you dont understand this, but to help you better understand why your logic is dumb: So Tom Brady has thrown 5 Touchdowns in a single QTR, so by that logic his ceiling is 20 touchdowns in a single game.

QB4 in my main this week. Probably QB5 after Brees gets done tonight. Still, those are starting fantasy QB numbers and he was awful for the first 57 minutes.

Do they play the 0-6 Dolphins every week? How many times does he throw for less than 100 yds in the first 3 QTRs before he doesnt deliver in the 4th QTR? Id imagine somewhere around wk 8.

You realize that there's more to assessing a QB's fantasy value than the records of the teams they play and what quarters he gets his points, right? It was his first start. This isn't Madden on the XBox. It's the NFL. Most QBs need some real live ammo reps to get a rhythm.I'm beginning to get the impression that the average poster on the website is much younger than I suspected when I got here. The anti-Tebow sentiments around here are near comical. It's almost like people are angry.

First of all, it isnt his first start. Second of all a QBs value in fantasy is determined by his numbers - which are bad, getting by every week doesnt make you a QB1.Seeyah guys next week.

It's his first start of the season. I'm talking game speed and rhythm. Ask Carson Palmer how much a start last season's worth in the context of getting up to game speed and finding rhythm with your receivers. Finding rhythm with anything.A QBs value in fantasy is determined by his fantasy points - which have been nothing short of QB1 level every game he's played. If that's getting by, then that works.Gee, can't wait.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

the people bashing Tebow don't seem to understand that most of the people propping him up aren't saying he's anything special as an NFL QB. we're just saying look at his production when he plays. it's pretty amazing. looks ugly doing it much of the time, but he puts up fantasy points. Sure, it might get him benched at some point but might as well ride the train as long as we can.

you can write off last year's finish by saying Josh McDaniels was there and he won't do as well under John Fox...and he won't do it without a true #1 WR like Brandon Lloyd around. But, who did he have this week? Daniel Fells and DeMaryius Thomas coming back from an Achilles injury? It doesn't seem to matter who he has to throw to.

The McGahee hand injury might also wind up putting even more pressure on Tebow to carry this offense, and his finish might start to win over the coaching staff to just open things up a bit and let him run wild out there.

 

[chinawildman]

If I'm the broncos coaching staff, I let him run more plays from shotgun next week and move him around more. The run run pass playcalling absolutely does not play to Tebow's strengths... The accuracy he was missing the first 3 quarters suddenly appeared from no where while they were in frantic comeback mode. Tebow is very much a feel player, and thus needs to run around, throw the ball, and do more than just handoff to get his feel for the game. I was actually very impressed w his pocket awareness and ability to throw on the run. Yet you see that once the broncos reached OT, the coaches went back to the same conservative run/run/pass plan (which of course failed).

For every 2 ugly plays Tebow makes, he seems to make one good play. But for him to reach his potential as a QB1, the coaches have to trust him enough to handle the ball more, and I think the jury is still out on that.

 

[Apple Jack]

Seems to me to come down to the fact that he has enough raw talent and football IQ to act as instruments for his unparalleled will to win. He's taking "will" from the intangible column and putting it in the tangible column. <queue Freebird>

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

the people bashing Tebow don't seem to understand that most of the people propping him up aren't saying he's anything special as an NFL QB. we're just saying look at his production when he plays. it's pretty amazing. looks ugly doing it much of the time, but he puts up fantasy points. Sure, it might get him benched at some point but might as well ride the train as long as we can.

This, 100%.I don't own Tebow, and I think he looks downright ugly much of the time.But when given the opportunity, the dude is somehow, someway, putting up significant fantasy numbers.

 

[shnikies]

Happy to own him in every league, but it's gonna take some serious cahones to start him every week.

It sure does take major "cahones" to start a quarterback who's averaged 26 fantasy points a game through 4 starts.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Really Tebow made anyone eat it? QB1 numbers? I dont' want to waste anyone's time here. I just don't think he's QB1 value but he pulled through in the end. All hail Tebow...... For the record I don't give 2 ####s about Tebow.... I just don't think he's QB1 value.... I want to make sure the people that are giving advice are held accountable that is all. Thanks for your time all.

so in this case, bloom gets accountabilty for being right?it is impossible to tell from the context if you are aware of this, but tebow was one of the top fantasy players OVERALL in the last three games last year, yet no mention of that fact, as if it never happened.yet it is some kind of a bizarre, ridiculous prognostication on the part of bloom that tebow might do... exactly what he has done every time he has started (as has been pointed out several times elsewhere in the thread)...accountability should work both ways (didn't you specifically mention in first post someone should be eating crow... crow is funny like that, always funner to serve than to swallow... typically, crow eating protocol calls for the mistaken party to say something like oops, never mind, not defiantly continue to insist they are really right and the other person was just lucky )... since tebow has put up big numbers in last three games last year, and in past two games this year (five games in a row he has started all or at least half a game), aren't you being the contrarian? shouldn't the onus be on you to give reasons why he is destined/doomed to fail to live up to QB1 status (and be worthy of RB1 value in return)... is your position that he has just gotten lucky, and it is unsustainable on that basis?in the post above, you don't really offer reasons for your position, just repeat the opinion... you don't think tebow is worthy of QB1 status, twice... we get that... offering WHY you don't think so would lead to a more substantive and constructive discussion of why bloom might be right, or wrong...it is unusual to take the trouble to call somebody out, yet offer no reasons for doing so?

 

[Football Jones]

They didn't change the offense for Tebow, but the Broncos will need to do that eventually. Dude is a difference-maker & he'll keep improving as a passer.

That's what makes his upside so high. Combine his athleticism & intangibles, along with him improving with experience as well geting the offense tailored to his strengths, & Denver will have themselves one helluva QB.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

His ceiling would be doing what he did in the 4th quarter for a whole game. So, 16 points in the 4th quarter would be 64 points for a game. I'll take 64 points from my qb. It's not great production but I'll take it.

Lmfao, I realize you dont understand this, but to help you better understand why your logic is dumb: So Tom Brady has thrown 5 Touchdowns in a single QTR, so by that logic his ceiling is 20 touchdowns in a single game.

QB4 in my main this week. Probably QB5 after Brees gets done tonight. Still, those are starting fantasy QB numbers and he was awful for the first 57 minutes.

Do they play the 0-6 Dolphins every week? How many times does he throw for less than 100 yds in the first 3 QTRs before he doesnt deliver in the 4th QTR? Id imagine somewhere around wk 8.

You realize that there's more to assessing a QB's fantasy value than the records of the teams they play and what quarters he gets his points, right? It was his first start. This isn't Madden on the XBox. It's the NFL. Most QBs need some real live ammo reps to get a rhythm.I'm beginning to get the impression that the average poster on the website is much younger than I suspected when I got here.

The anti-Tebow sentiments around here are near comical. It's almost like people are angry.

First of all, it isnt his first start. Second of all a QBs value in fantasy is determined by his numbers - which are bad, getting by every week doesnt make you a QB1.

Seeyah guys next week.

:woosh:

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

the people bashing Tebow don't seem to understand that most of the people propping him up aren't saying he's anything special as an NFL QB. we're just saying look at his production when he plays. it's pretty amazing. looks ugly doing it much of the time, but he puts up fantasy points. Sure, it might get him benched at some point but might as well ride the train as long as we can.

This, 100%.I don't own Tebow, and I think he looks downright ugly much of the time.But when given the opportunity, the dude is somehow, someway, putting up significant fantasy numbers.

...It's really boggling my mind as to how people are not understanding this concept. We all understand he's not a pure passer, because he isn't. As long as he is starting in the NFL, he will be posting QB1 numbers, its obvious. I'm calling a 'stop the madness' on this ignorance!

 

[nysportsfan]

Started him over a 6 week QB1 in Stafford and it paid off

 

[Cecil Lammey]

John Fox is not going to bench Tebow. If he didn't bench him after the first three quarters (which were some of the worst ever played by a QB in the NFL) then he's not going to bench him.

Unless Tebow gets hurt (always a possibility the way he gets hit) then the Chargers game will go down as the last time we'll see Kyle Orton attempt a pass for the Broncos.

I've got more in the recap show of The Audible, but I fully expect John Fox to establish a rhythm with Tebow much, much earlier in the weeks going forward.

I did a 3-hour NO BS Broncos Postgame show here in Denver after the game and I put a lot of Tebow's struggles on the playcalling in the first 3 quarters. Yes, he missed open guys but had only 11 passing attempts in the first 3 quarters. Denver ran on something like 13 of 14 first-downs before the comeback, and was overall very, very predictable on offense. Getting in long third-down situations does not play to Tebow's strengths.

Yes, he overthrew Decker on what would have been a TD. For some reason he failed to put his 'Jeff Blake' rainbow touch on that pass.

As I reported in my Training Camp reports, Tebow got very few first string reps and must develop better timing and chemistry with these receivers. One route DThomas went the wrong way, another incompletion happened because Eddie Royal stopped running on his comeback route. There's a good chance this timing/chemistry stuff gets cleaned up with more time.

Sit back and eat your Broncos fans because it's going to be a wild ride!

BTW, defending Tebow does NOT make you a blind Tebow homer. Let's talk honestly about Tebow without the 'he's the greatest ever!' or 'he's the worst ever!' blind analysis. The kid has been a top 10 fantasy QB every time he's started in the NFL, and should be valued as such.

 

[RushHour]

From a fantasy perspective, this game was a great illustration of what is probably Tebow's FLOOR week to week. He had a wretched 3 quarters (a lot of which was due to playcalling) and he still did well in my league scoring system (despite being sacked 7 times and we get -2 for sacks). Not rating him as QB is defensible (though all the guy has done throughout his college career to now is make plays, no matter how 'ugly'), but to not acknowledge his fantasy value is just ridiculous.

 

[hines]

simply because he has put up numbers so far does not mean he will continue to. that is what I am saying. that is where the eye test is important. can he quickly release the ball? no. can he throw accurately? no. that is why I think his average will drop as he plays more games and people who are saying this is his floor will be disappointed

 

[BassNBrew]

I did a 3-hour NO BS Broncos Postgame show here in Denver after the game and I put a lot of Tebow's struggles on the playcalling in the first 3 quarters. Yes, he missed open guys but had only 11 passing attempts in the first 3 quarters. Denver ran on something like 13 of 14 first-downs before the comeback, and was overall very, very predictable on offense. Getting in long third-down situations does not play to Tebow's strengths.

If you think this is going to change, you haven't followed John Fox closely.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

simply because he has put up numbers so far does not mean he will continue to. that is what I am saying. that is where the eye test is important. can he quickly release the ball? no. can he throw accurately? no. that is why I think his average will drop as he plays more games and people who are saying this is his floor will be disappointed

I don't disagree with you necessarily.If your point is that Tebow won't sustain this pace, and to sell high...that's reasonable.However, the ill-conceived premise of this thread was to call out FBG staff for claiming Tebow a QB1, even asking for "accountability".One super-smart mathlete even claimed that Tebow has put up bad numbers...literally the opposite of reality.

 

[proninja]

@ calling for accountability on an internet magic football forum

It's clear that Tebow is a very polarizing guy due to his religious beliefs. Some people let their feelings on Tebow's personal life interfere with their feelings on Tebow the fantasy asset. It's clear to any reasonable person that he's a heck of a fantasy asset as of right now. It's also clear that it's no lock that continues into the future. I don't care if he punts the ball to his receivers, as long as he's putting up numbers. And, considering the acquisition cost most of his owners paid for him, he's house money.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

The kid has been a top 10 fantasy QB every time he's started in the NFL, and should be valued as such.

In four starts, he's been #6, #7, #1, and (as of Sunday night) #5.There's no way that's not QB1 production.

 

[AgentMulder]

Damn I was tanked when I posted this. Congrats to all you Tebow owners and your FPs this week. To be clear about the reference to the audible, Bloom had mentioned that Tebow has QB1 value and if someone was looking to move him he should be moved for RB1 etc. I didn't watch all of the game yesterday, while the points do show QB1 numbers would anyone really make a trade for Tebow and give up a RB1 or WR1? Where would you rank Tebow right now in the QB1 tier if you think he is a QB1?

If I had to take a shot here's my QB1 tier:

Brady

Rodgers

Brees

Newton

Stafford - If he can stay healthy.

Vick - If he can stay healthy.

Tier 2

Rivers - This guy should be Tier 1 just not performing as such.

Romo

Big Ben

Schaub

Eli

What RB1 would you be comfortable trading for him? Rice? McFadden? I could care less how Tebow performs, however it was mentioned his value would be RB1 value so I'm curious what all the Tebow owners would consider fair value and where in that Tier 1 of QBs they would rank him.

EDIT - Forgot to add, I'm not going back on what I mentioned earlier. I don't think he's a QB1 moving forward and I would take most if not all of the QBs mentioned above over him. He may prove me wrong in weeks to come so be it. I'm more curious at what people think his value actually is.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I have Tebow im both my leagues. Im certainly not trying to trade him for another QB. I dont expect a top 10 RB or WR for him, but I will dangle offers out there for RBs and WRs