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ted cruz - i hate new york (1 Viewer)

Some political cartoonist should show Cruz on the toilet ready to wipe his ### with a cutout of the state of New York because that's basically what he did tonight. He pissed off a lot of good people.

 
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TobiasFunke said:
Ministry%20of%20Pain said:
Some political cartoonist should show Cruz on the toilet ready to wipe his ### with a cutout of the state of New York because that's basically what he did tonight. He pissed off a lot of good people.
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I think this works better
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Is that a real newspaper cover? It couldn't be more perfect. It's also the epitome of why Ted Cruz hates New York in the first place. "You don't like N.Y. values? Go back to Canada!" :lol:

 
Hang 10 said:
RedmondLonghorn said:
Hard to make Trump come off as a decent guy. Cruz managed to.
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Sad that he felt the need to play the 9/11 card. Had nothing to do with Cruz's point.
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Living here, knowing people who literally dodged body parts that day - you know, the lucky ones still alive - I have no issue with how trump handled that.

9/11 was an example of NY community and American values in the face of terror and self sacrifice as well as anything in recent times.

Maybe let the NYers decide when our pain is OK to use. I'm not one to agree with Trump, but good for him and well said.

 
Evidently even New Yorkers hate New York

During the 12 months ending last July 1, 153,921 more residents moved out of New York than moved into it from other states, according to the U.S. Census Bureau’s annual update of population estimates. The Census Bureau also slightly increased its estimate of New York’s prior year (2013-14) outflow to other states, to a new total of 160,329.

The latest estimates bring New York’s total “net domestic migration” loss since the 2010 census to 653,071 people—the largest such decrease of any state, both in absolute terms and as a percentage of estimated population as of the start of the decade.
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TPW said:
Evidently even New Yorkers hate New York

During the 12 months ending last July 1, 153,921 more residents moved out of New York than moved into it from other states, according to the U.S. Census Bureau’s annual update of population estimates. The Census Bureau also slightly increased its estimate of New York’s prior year (2013-14) outflow to other states, to a new total of 160,329.

The latest estimates bring New York’s total “net domestic migration” loss since the 2010 census to 653,071 people—the largest such decrease of any state, both in absolute terms and as a percentage of estimated population as of the start of the decade.
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taxes

 
TPW said:
Evidently even New Yorkers hate New York

During the 12 months ending last July 1, 153,921 more residents moved out of New York than moved into it from other states, according to the U.S. Census Bureau’s annual update of population estimates. The Census Bureau also slightly increased its estimate of New York’s prior year (2013-14) outflow to other states, to a new total of 160,329.

The latest estimates bring New York’s total “net domestic migration” loss since the 2010 census to 653,071 people—the largest such decrease of any state, both in absolute terms and as a percentage of estimated population as of the start of the decade.
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Let's at least pretend to not be disingenuous.

1. That's state outflow. It's due to high Taxes, high cost of living compared to similar lifestyles elsewhere. The "NY Ideals" comment was sqarely at the Liberal NYC - the burbs are 50/50 and once republican strongholds, and upstate is conservative country living. :shrug:

2. NY City AND State have a Net population GROWTH (of this I am almost sure, will poke around), due to immigration from other nations, because NYC, the "place" and "values" referenced by Cruz in his NY term, is where a lot of people want to live (they just can't afford it). He certainly was not referrencing Whitesboro, the upstate town that voted to keep its logo of an indian being attacked by a white guy and the surrounding rifle, truck and blowin' up thing loving* NRA card carrying folk FAR more than some group of Progressive Liberals.

So, basically, NYC has seen significant growth, so the reality of the situation is actually the opposite of the point you make. :shrug:

* Not that there is anything wrong with blowin' up things loving. Nor should that be the realm of any particular political ideology at the expense of others.

 
This is what politics have boiled down to -- Some trivial remark that has no real bearing on the job, gets a reaction. It becomes the main take away from the debate.

Maybe it has always been this way.

 
Unfortunate that Ed Cox hasn't said anything publicly about this, fwiw. You are supposed to lead the state party - for one, stand up for us, second, remind Cruz that NY State has a diverse group of people, including many God fearin, immigrant hating, food stamp needing hard fast Republicans just about everywhere outside of NYC and it's immediate gravity.

 
The General said:
This is what politics have boiled down to -- Some trivial remark that has no real bearing on the job, gets a reaction. It becomes the main take away from the debate.

Maybe it has always been this way.
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That a President should at least try to care about the entire country? Including it's economic and cultural capital? I hope it's always been that way. Seems some don't seem to care at heart about these U.S. Citizens as was clearly evidenced by Cruz' very words.

Try to play it down all you want, but Presidential means not being so small, if not repugnant. In reality, both.

 
Koya said:
The General said:
This is what politics have boiled down to -- Some trivial remark that has no real bearing on the job, gets a reaction. It becomes the main take away from the debate.

Maybe it has always been this way.
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That a President should at least try to care about the entire country? Including it's economic and cultural capital? I hope it's always been that way. Seems some don't seem to care at heart about these U.S. Citizens as was clearly evidenced by Cruz' very words.

Try to play it down all you want, but Presidential means not being so small, if not repugnant. In reality, both.
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Cruz was trying to bash liberals. You could replace NY with any "liberal" city.

Trump scoring points with this is the problem with me.

 
Koya said:
TPW said:
Evidently even New Yorkers hate New York

During the 12 months ending last July 1, 153,921 more residents moved out of New York than moved into it from other states, according to the U.S. Census Bureau’s annual update of population estimates. The Census Bureau also slightly increased its estimate of New York’s prior year (2013-14) outflow to other states, to a new total of 160,329.

The latest estimates bring New York’s total “net domestic migration” loss since the 2010 census to 653,071 people—the largest such decrease of any state, both in absolute terms and as a percentage of estimated population as of the start of the decade.
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Let's at least pretend to not be disingenuous.

1. That's state outflow. It's due to high Taxes, high cost of living compared to similar lifestyles elsewhere. The "NY Ideals" comment was sqarely at the Liberal NYC - the burbs are 50/50 and once republican strongholds, and upstate is conservative country living. :shrug:

2. NY City AND State have a Net population GROWTH (of this I am almost sure, will poke around), due to immigration from other nations, because NYC, the "place" and "values" referenced by Cruz in his NY term, is where a lot of people want to live (they just can't afford it). He certainly was not referrencing Whitesboro, the upstate town that voted to keep its logo of an indian being attacked by a white guy and the surrounding rifle, truck and blowin' up thing loving* NRA card carrying folk FAR more than some group of Progressive Liberals.

So, basically, NYC has seen significant growth, so the reality of the situation is actually the opposite of the point you make. :shrug:

* Not that there is anything wrong with blowin' up things loving. Nor should that be the realm of any particular political ideology at the expense of others.
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Actually, over the last five years New York has had a marginally net negative population growth of -0.12%. You are correct though that New York is at present bringing in huge numbers of immigrants (630,763 since 2010.) which nearly offsets the outflow from United States citizens.

Given the evidence, I guess the most correct state of affairs then is, "Foreigners love New York. Americans hate it."

 
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