Ted Ginn (1 Viewer)

[Team Legacy]

Now that Chambers and Booker are gone, I guess he's the new #1 on Miami by default right?

19 Ginn Jr., Ted WR 5-11 178 4/12/85 R Ohio State '08 Cleveland, OH D1, '07

15 Reed, Kerry WR 6-1 191 12/24/84 1 Michigan State '07 Homestead, FL FA, '08

83 Camarillo, Greg WR 6-1 190 4/18/82 2 Stanford ’05 Menlo Park, CA W, '07 (S.D.)

82 Hagan, Derek WR 6-2 203 9/21/84 2 Arizona State '06 Palmdale, CA D3, '06

18 Williams, Chandler WR 5-11 184 8/9/85 R Florida International '07 Miami, FL FA, ;07

There's your wide receiver roster. Need another laugh? Here's the QB roster:

7 Bramlet, Casey QB 6-4 227 4/2/81 2 Wyoming '04 Wheatland, WY FA, '07

8 Baker, Matt QB 6-2 212 5/11/83 1 North Carolina '06 Rochester Hills, MI FA, 08

17 Lemon, Cleo QB 6-2 215 8/16/79 4 Arkansas State ’01 Greenwood, MS T, '05 (S.D.)

9 Beck, John QB 6-2 216 8/21/81 R Brigham Young '07 Mesa, AZ D2a, '07

Honestly, what is Ginn's upside heading into 2008?

Roddy White is the best comparison. He was on a bad team with a bad QB all year with no other weapons and ended up 13th overall.

Does anyone dare think Ginn can do the same?

 

[Sweet Love]

I was baffled when Miami took Ginn as a top 10 pick last year (Jets fan), but have to admit, he exceeded my expectations. I was thinking he would put up Peter Warrick numbers at best for his career (Troy Edwards' type numbers more realistically), but he has the opportunity and I think skill to become a decent option. When picking a WR in the top 10, you are basically admitting, "this guy will be our WR1" and I cannot imagine that for Ginn, so I still think it was a poor pick, but he may not be an absolute flop. I still think they bring in WR help, at least one decent veteran (like a Keyshawn) and one retread (maybe Moose?) to take the heat off this young corp.

 

[zadok]

Now that Chambers and Booker are gone, I guess he's the new #1 on Miami by default right? 19 Ginn Jr., Ted WR 5-11 178 4/12/85 R Ohio State '08 Cleveland, OH D1, '07 15 Reed, Kerry WR 6-1 191 12/24/84 1 Michigan State '07 Homestead, FL FA, '08 83 Camarillo, Greg WR 6-1 190 4/18/82 2 Stanford ’05 Menlo Park, CA W, '07 (S.D.) 82 Hagan, Derek WR 6-2 203 9/21/84 2 Arizona State '06 Palmdale, CA D3, '06 18 Williams, Chandler WR 5-11 184 8/9/85 R Florida International '07 Miami, FL FA, ;07

I say Hagan ends up with the best stats of this group.

 

[faux_bear]

I would put Ginn's upside for 2008 at 60 receptions for 900 yards. The most important factors for Ginn, I think, are improved QB play, and having a decent veteran receiver on the opposite side that can help mentor him, and also attract some attention away from the defense.

If Parcells brings a veteran receiver and QB in, I think this would really help Ginn's development quite a bit.

Will he ever become a number 1 fantasy WR? I doubt it, but I think Santana Moss-like production is certainly attainable within the next 2 or 3 years.

One thing I found interesting about Ginn is that he was hyped up as a raw "burner" coming out of Ohio State, but I think that his receving and route running skills were actually better than I expected in his rookie year. There were also several plays over the course of this season where Ginn ran by the defense but the QB couldn't get him the ball...with a better QB, his decent rookie numbers could have been significantly better.

 

[Kirby]

I'll admit that I hated the pick... but Ginn improved a lot and he's not going suck as bad as I thought... I would still rather have Quinn and Rice.

I think he'll be in the 60's for catches and the 800's for yards.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

100% certain that Parcells will bring in 1-2 veteran WRs. Ginn will be the #2 or #3 WR once all signings are complete.

 

[Tanner9919]

100% certain that Parcells will bring in 1-2 veteran WRs. Ginn will be the #2 or #3 WR once all signings are complete.

I'd look for Bryant Johnson ( AZ) to be one of the vets they sign, perhaps even a trade for CJ ( remember, Parcells did the same thing when he built the Jets with the C-Mart trade)Ginn will be the Terry Glenn of the bunch, the speedy WR that can't be covered.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Keyshawn to Miami

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I'll admit that I hated the pick... but Ginn improved a lot and he's not going suck as bad as I thought... I would still rather have Quinn and Rice. I think he'll be in the 60's for catches and the 800's for yards.

Seriously. Rice>Ginn by himself. And how bad does Miami wish they had Quinn right now?

 

[mchaps55]

Seriously. Rice>Ginn by himself. And how bad does Miami wish they had Quinn right now?

ah im a dolphins fan and I'm not so sure nor do I wish we had quinn now........To early to tell on him or beck.............

 

[Beaumont]

Now that Chambers and Booker are gone, I guess he's the new #1 on Miami by default right? 19 Ginn Jr., Ted WR 5-11 178 4/12/85 R Ohio State '08 Cleveland, OH D1, '07 15 Reed, Kerry WR 6-1 191 12/24/84 1 Michigan State '07 Homestead, FL FA, '08 83 Camarillo, Greg WR 6-1 190 4/18/82 2 Stanford ’05 Menlo Park, CA W, '07 (S.D.) 82 Hagan, Derek WR 6-2 203 9/21/84 2 Arizona State '06 Palmdale, CA D3, '06 18 Williams, Chandler WR 5-11 184 8/9/85 R Florida International '07 Miami, FL FA, ;07 There's your wide receiver roster. Need another laugh? Here's the QB roster: 7 Bramlet, Casey QB 6-4 227 4/2/81 2 Wyoming '04 Wheatland, WY FA, '07 8 Baker, Matt QB 6-2 212 5/11/83 1 North Carolina '06 Rochester Hills, MI FA, 08 17 Lemon, Cleo QB 6-2 215 8/16/79 4 Arkansas State ’01 Greenwood, MS T, '05 (S.D.) 9 Beck, John QB 6-2 216 8/21/81 R Brigham Young '07 Mesa, AZ D2a, '07 Honestly, what is Ginn's upside heading into 2008?Roddy White is the best comparison. He was on a bad team with a bad QB all year with no other weapons and ended up 13th overall. Does anyone dare think Ginn can do the same?

Here's hoping .... * Beaumont's Roustabouts gave up King, Jeff CAR TE; Year 2008 Draft Pick 1.07 * Louisville Legends gave up Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR; Year 2008 Draft Pick 2.08

 

[az_prof]

I'll admit that I hated the pick... but Ginn improved a lot and he's not going suck as bad as I thought... I would still rather have Quinn and Rice. I think he'll be in the 60's for catches and the 800's for yards.

Seriously. Rice>Ginn by himself. And how bad does Miami wish they had Quinn right now?

What has Quinn done to make them wish they had him? I would lay down money that Ginn will have a better career than Quinn.

 

[dornado]

Ted Ginn is not a quick study... he'll be fine as a pro, just give the kid some time.

 

[az_prof]

Now that Chambers and Booker are gone, I guess he's the new #1 on Miami by default right? 19 Ginn Jr., Ted WR 5-11 178 4/12/85 R Ohio State '08 Cleveland, OH D1, '07 15 Reed, Kerry WR 6-1 191 12/24/84 1 Michigan State '07 Homestead, FL FA, '08 83 Camarillo, Greg WR 6-1 190 4/18/82 2 Stanford ’05 Menlo Park, CA W, '07 (S.D.) 82 Hagan, Derek WR 6-2 203 9/21/84 2 Arizona State '06 Palmdale, CA D3, '06 18 Williams, Chandler WR 5-11 184 8/9/85 R Florida International '07 Miami, FL FA, ;07 There's your wide receiver roster. Need another laugh? Here's the QB roster: 7 Bramlet, Casey QB 6-4 227 4/2/81 2 Wyoming '04 Wheatland, WY FA, '07 8 Baker, Matt QB 6-2 212 5/11/83 1 North Carolina '06 Rochester Hills, MI FA, 08 17 Lemon, Cleo QB 6-2 215 8/16/79 4 Arkansas State ’01 Greenwood, MS T, '05 (S.D.) 9 Beck, John QB 6-2 216 8/21/81 R Brigham Young '07 Mesa, AZ D2a, '07 Honestly, what is Ginn's upside heading into 2008?Roddy White is the best comparison. He was on a bad team with a bad QB all year with no other weapons and ended up 13th overall. Does anyone dare think Ginn can do the same?

Here's hoping .... * Beaumont's Roustabouts gave up King, Jeff CAR TE; Year 2008 Draft Pick 1.07 * Louisville Legends gave up Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR; Year 2008 Draft Pick 2.08

Beaumont: I take it you like Ginn better than any of this year's rookie WRs since you might have had your pick of them at 1.07. I like Ginn but am curious to hear why you are so high on him? I probably wouldn't have traded anything higher than a 1.10-1-12 pick for him.

 

[Beaumont]

Now that Chambers and Booker are gone, I guess he's the new #1 on Miami by default right? 19 Ginn Jr., Ted WR 5-11 178 4/12/85 R Ohio State '08 Cleveland, OH D1, '07 15 Reed, Kerry WR 6-1 191 12/24/84 1 Michigan State '07 Homestead, FL FA, '08 83 Camarillo, Greg WR 6-1 190 4/18/82 2 Stanford ’05 Menlo Park, CA W, '07 (S.D.) 82 Hagan, Derek WR 6-2 203 9/21/84 2 Arizona State '06 Palmdale, CA D3, '06 18 Williams, Chandler WR 5-11 184 8/9/85 R Florida International '07 Miami, FL FA, ;07 There's your wide receiver roster. Need another laugh? Here's the QB roster: 7 Bramlet, Casey QB 6-4 227 4/2/81 2 Wyoming '04 Wheatland, WY FA, '07 8 Baker, Matt QB 6-2 212 5/11/83 1 North Carolina '06 Rochester Hills, MI FA, 08 17 Lemon, Cleo QB 6-2 215 8/16/79 4 Arkansas State ’01 Greenwood, MS T, '05 (S.D.) 9 Beck, John QB 6-2 216 8/21/81 R Brigham Young '07 Mesa, AZ D2a, '07 Honestly, what is Ginn's upside heading into 2008?Roddy White is the best comparison. He was on a bad team with a bad QB all year with no other weapons and ended up 13th overall. Does anyone dare think Ginn can do the same?

Here's hoping .... * Beaumont's Roustabouts gave up King, Jeff CAR TE; Year 2008 Draft Pick 1.07 * Louisville Legends gave up Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR; Year 2008 Draft Pick 2.08

Beaumont: I take it you like Ginn better than any of this year's rookie WRs since you might have had your pick of them at 1.07. I like Ginn but am curious to hear why you are so high on him? I probably wouldn't have traded anything higher than a 1.10-1-12 pick for him.

Oh, I dont like him better than all this year's WR. But I am getting the 2.8 back (pick 20) and think I can get another fine WR prospect. I figure that Ginn is going to be the No. 1 option in Mia and their offense will only get better. I was actually impressed with him in 2007 and figure he is worth a late first. My thought, and this is just me, is that if you can get the No. 1 WR option for any team in a ppr, you do it, especially if you get a 2.8 back (which I figure will land me a Jacoby Jones sort of player). King is a throw away for this league IMHO. I almost couldn't give him away.My thoughts anyway ...ETA: I already have Hagan. I am toasted if Mia goes and gets an all new starting lineup.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Now that Chambers and Booker are gone, I guess he's the new #1 on Miami by default right? 19 Ginn Jr., Ted WR 5-11 178 4/12/85 R Ohio State '08 Cleveland, OH D1, '07 15 Reed, Kerry WR 6-1 191 12/24/84 1 Michigan State '07 Homestead, FL FA, '08 83 Camarillo, Greg WR 6-1 190 4/18/82 2 Stanford ’05 Menlo Park, CA W, '07 (S.D.) 82 Hagan, Derek WR 6-2 203 9/21/84 2 Arizona State '06 Palmdale, CA D3, '06 18 Williams, Chandler WR 5-11 184 8/9/85 R Florida International '07 Miami, FL FA, ;07 There's your wide receiver roster. Need another laugh? Here's the QB roster: 7 Bramlet, Casey QB 6-4 227 4/2/81 2 Wyoming '04 Wheatland, WY FA, '07 8 Baker, Matt QB 6-2 212 5/11/83 1 North Carolina '06 Rochester Hills, MI FA, 08 17 Lemon, Cleo QB 6-2 215 8/16/79 4 Arkansas State ’01 Greenwood, MS T, '05 (S.D.) 9 Beck, John QB 6-2 216 8/21/81 R Brigham Young '07 Mesa, AZ D2a, '07 Honestly, what is Ginn's upside heading into 2008?Roddy White is the best comparison. He was on a bad team with a bad QB all year with no other weapons and ended up 13th overall. Does anyone dare think Ginn can do the same?

Here's hoping .... * Beaumont's Roustabouts gave up King, Jeff CAR TE; Year 2008 Draft Pick 1.07 * Louisville Legends gave up Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR; Year 2008 Draft Pick 2.08

one of you got ripped off, not saying which one ...

 

[Marty Booker Fan]

Ginn is the man in Miami headed into 2008. He has to be unless the team brings in a veteran like Keyshawn Johnson, which the team has been rumored to be working on already.

In leagues that award return yardage and touchdowns to individual players, he has a TON of upside. His explosiveness on kickoff returns is something to keep in mind when drafting.