TEN is not overated (1 Viewer)

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

In honor of Bojang0301:

One of, if not the best rushing attacks in the league, solid defense, minimal mistakes. I think they can beat every other team on any given day. Collins is the only cause for concern but he has taken a team to the Superbowl before. This team is football.gif Looking forward to seeing where they go.

 

[Ghost Rider]

They are definitely for real. Jeff Fisher teams always win ugly. They were middle of the pack in offense and defense in '99 when they went to the Super Bowl. The stats do not always look pretty, but they find a way to win, and that is what matters.

 

[TruckBoatTruck]

Doesn't look like it'll happen this year, but I'd love to see them in a late season nasty weather game. Football at its finest.

 

[Bojang0301]

They are definitely for real. Jeff Fisher teams always win ugly. They were middle of the pack in offense and defense in '99 when they went to the Super Bowl. The stats do not always look pretty, but they find a way to win, and that is what matters.

I just don't see a team that will be able to route them with bundles of points. Their defense doesn't break and their rushing attack is awesome... true definition of thunder and lightning attack.Thanks for opening this back up.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

FIRST QUARTER OPPONENT TOUCHDOWNS: The Titans did not allow the Chiefs to score in the first quarter. It continued an impressive streak for the Titans defense. They have not allowed an opponent to score a touchdown in the 1st quarter since Dec. 2, 2007, a string of 10 consecutive regular season games. The Chiefs game was the fourth time in six games this season the Titans did not allow their opponents to score at all in the first quarter.

 

[purestrength]

I'm a longtime Colts fan, but I fear the Titans will embarrass them next Monday night.

 

[EBF]

Who have they beaten?

Nobody.

I just can't see them hanging with the Broncos, Colts, or Steelers in a firefight.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Who have they beaten?Nobody.

JacksonvilleMinnesotaBaltimoreAll three of those teams would be over .500 had they actually beaten the Titans.Let me rephrase your question to this:Who has beaten the Titans? The answer is still......Nobody.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

Who have they beaten?Nobody.I just can't see them hanging with the Broncos, Colts, or Steelers in a firefight.

You are horrible at this posting thing.

 

[FUBAR]

Why is the KC game triggering these threads?

 

[GoldenBear]

The only thing I'm curious about is whether they can come from behind if a team rings their bell early. They don't seem ideally designed to score points quickly, and that could hurt them against an explosive team.

 

[Jack Burton]

Who have they beaten?

Nobody.

I just can't see them hanging with the Broncos, Colts, or Steelers in a firefight.

well for starters they beat the Chiefs... do I need to continue smart guy.

 

[EBF]

Who have they beaten?Nobody.I just can't see them hanging with the Broncos, Colts, or Steelers in a firefight.

You are horrible at this posting thing.

Be sure to bump this in a few months when Tennessee goes out in the first round of the playoffs. Fisher is a great coach. Maybe the best coach in the NFL. He always gets the most out of his teams, but Tennessee doesn't have the firepower on offense to beat the elite teams in the league. Minimize their ground game, get out to an early lead, game over. The only reason they're even in the discussion for the AFC crown is because NE and SD are down. I still don't think they can beat Pittsburgh, Denver, or Indianapolis in a playoff game.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

Who have they beaten?Nobody.I just can't see them hanging with the Broncos, Colts, or Steelers in a firefight.

You are horrible at this posting thing.

Be sure to bump this in a few months when Tennessee goes out in the first round of the playoffs. Fisher is a great coach. Maybe the best coach in the NFL. He always gets the most out of his teams, but Tennessee doesn't have the firepower on offense to beat the elite teams in the league. Minimize their ground game, get out to an early lead, game over. The only reason they're even in the discussion for the AFC crown is because NE and SD are down. I still don't think they can beat Pittsburgh, Denver, or Indianapolis in a playoff game.

The fact that the conference stinks definitely helps. That's sort of the point - you don't have to be great to be relatively "elite" this year. The idea that Denver is somebody and Jacksonville is nobody is puzzling at best.

 

[kaa]

The only thing I'm curious about is whether they can come from behind if a team rings their bell early. They don't seem ideally designed to score points quickly, and that could hurt them against an explosive team.

Yah that was part of the criticism of the 2000 Ravens. If they fell behind and had to rely on Dilfer it would all fall apart. But those Ravens never fell behind like that where it took them out of their game. They trailed the Titans 7-0 in the first quarter and 10-7 in the second before taking the lead. Some thought the Raiders with Gruden's offense and Rich Gannon could take the Ravens out of their game, but Siragusa just sat on Gannon's head instead and gave him a concussion between his buttcheeks from which Oakland never recovered.

 

[GoldenBear]

Who have they beaten?

Nobody.

I just can't see them hanging with the Broncos, Colts, or Steelers in a firefight.

You are horrible at this posting thing.

Be sure to bump this in a few months when Tennessee goes out in the first round of the playoffs. Fisher is a great coach. Maybe the best coach in the NFL. He always gets the most out of his teams, but Tennessee doesn't have the firepower on offense to beat the elite teams in the league. Minimize their ground game, get out to an early lead, game over. The only reason they're even in the discussion for the AFC crown is because NE and SD are down. I still don't think they can beat Pittsburgh, Denver, or Indianapolis in a playoff game.

The fact that the conference stinks definitely helps. That's sort of the point - you don't have to be great to be relatively "elite" this year. The idea that Denver is somebody and Jacksonville is nobody is puzzling at best.

Out of curiosity, what is it at worst?

 

[RamMan]

Who have they beaten?Nobody.I just can't see them hanging with the Broncos, Colts, or Steelers in a firefight.

You are horrible at this posting thing.

Be sure to bump this in a few months when Tennessee goes out in the first round of the playoffs. Fisher is a great coach. Maybe the best coach in the NFL. He always gets the most out of his teams, but Tennessee doesn't have the firepower on offense to beat the elite teams in the league. Minimize their ground game, get out to an early lead, game over. The only reason they're even in the discussion for the AFC crown is because NE and SD are down. I still don't think they can beat Pittsburgh, Denver, or Indianapolis in a playoff game.

I rarely comment on this board to anything other than specifics about the games and players, but it seems you have a negative knee-jerk reaction to all subjects regarding TEN. I'm not a TEN fan, but between this post and your ongoing negativity about CJ3 I have to wonder about your objectivity.

 

[Heep]

Who have they beaten?

Nobody.

I just can't see them hanging with the Broncos, Colts, or Steelers in a firefight.

You are horrible at this posting thing.

Be sure to bump this in a few months when Tennessee goes out in the first round of the playoffs

. Fisher is a great coach. Maybe the best coach in the NFL. He always gets the most out of his teams, but Tennessee doesn't have the firepower on offense to beat the elite teams in the league. Minimize their ground game, get out to an early lead, game over. The only reason they're even in the discussion for the AFC crown is because NE and SD are down. I still don't think they can beat Pittsburgh, Denver, or Indianapolis in a playoff game.

That'll be kind of hard since they will be sitting at home eating popcorn enjoying their 1st round bye

 

[EBF]

I can assure you that I have no bias against the Titans. I'm just a realistic observer. The Titans haven't beaten any of the top teams in the NFL. Kerry Collins is their starting QB. Justin Gage and Justin McCareins are their top two WRs. That worries me.

For all the talk about how "defense wins championships," almost all of the last 15 Super Bowl winners had an elite franchise QB guiding their offense. The Titans can beat up on Huard, Flacco, and Frerotte, but what are they going to do against Cutler, Roethlisberger, Manning, Manning, Edwards, Rodgers, Romo, and Warner?

 

[treat88]

I can assure you that I have no bias against the Titans. I'm just a realistic observer. The Titans haven't beaten any of the top teams in the NFL. Kerry Collins is their starting QB. Justin Gage and Justin McCareins are their top two WRs. That worries me.For all the talk about how "defense wins championships," almost all of the last 15 Super Bowl winners had an elite franchise QB guiding their offense. The Titans can beat up on Huard, Flacco, and Frerotte, but what are they going to do against Cutler, Roethlisberger, Manning, Manning, Edwards, Rodgers, Romo, and Warner?

Probably accurate. I still think the Titans are a damn fine team. Just not SB caliber yet.

 

[Islanders rule]

Collins is the QB now.

Does Fisher bring Young back ?

If Collins were to get hurt Young would be back.

Young seems to be physically healthy, I don't know the status of his mental health. I think Fisher will put him in eventually and their offense should improve ?

Any homers know more about Young's possible return to starting QB ?

 

[Bri]

I can assure you that I have no bias against the Titans. I'm just a realistic observer. The Titans haven't beaten any of the top teams in the NFL. Kerry Collins is their starting QB. Justin Gage and Justin McCareins are their top two WRs. That worries me.For all the talk about how "defense wins championships," almost all of the last 15 Super Bowl winners had an elite franchise QB guiding their offense. The Titans can beat up on Huard, Flacco, and Frerotte, but what are they going to do against Cutler, Roethlisberger, Manning, Manning, Edwards, Rodgers, Romo, and Warner?

If you had the chance to watch the game today you'd have seen some smart or wise veteran plays by Kerry where he didn't complete a pass but didn't take a sack either-where they lined up on 4th down just to see if they could get the D to jump etc. Kerry is playing smart football doing a ton of little things perfectly.Justin Gage is a very good WR. When he plays, Ds are ready for him and he still does well. This year it's only about every other week but those weeks are 5 catches and a TD or 5 for 90 yards. He's made it, from scrub or bust in Chi-town....he's real good now.I can't stand McCareins and wish a young WR stepped up today. I believe Biren Ealy is their 2nd best WR and am still grrrrrrr as to why he's on the PS. They're weak at WR but they do go 4 TEs deep.We can discuss all sorts of things but the simplest thing is this-they only have to score 12 points. Their D will hold the opposing team to 11. Let me turn this around on you-Which of the NFL teams do you think can't score 12 any given week? We're getting near half a season and it's still that low.Oh the Colts are coming up....well no team plays the Colts better than the Titans. Dungy? Manning? someone said it and if ya look at the game history it has been super close. 12 points, that's it.While I (hopefully) have your attention, tell me about Rafael Little please. He can come off PUP for them soon. All I know is 3k yards in college, probably a Kevin Faulk type back.

 

[FUBAR]

I can assure you that I have no bias against the Titans. I'm just a realistic observer. The Titans haven't beaten any of the top teams in the NFL. Kerry Collins is their starting QB. Justin Gage and Justin McCareins are their top two WRs. That worries me.For all the talk about how "defense wins championships," almost all of the last 15 Super Bowl winners had an elite franchise QB guiding their offense. The Titans can beat up on Huard, Flacco, and Frerotte, but what are they going to do against Cutler, Roethlisberger, Manning, Manning, Edwards, Rodgers, Romo, and Warner?

At this point last year, did you consider Eli as an elite franchise QB? And you might want to relook the last 15 champs, especially the last 10. many of these teams did not have elite QBs.

 

[Jercules]

Tennessee is one of those teams that keeps it simple, and does it successfully. Teams can win a lot of games, and make a lot of playoff appearances, by minimizing mistakes and controlling the clock, yadda yadda yadda.

Conventional wisdom, however, would suggest that at some point that won't be good enough. The Titans may be the class of the league now, but they're also playing at about their peak. Come January, somebody like Indy, Denver, Jax, NE, Pittsburgh, SD, etc. will have their act together and will probably be able to knock Tennessee off. Their ceiling as a team, with the likes of Kerry Collins and Justin Gage, is simply too low.

I'm not saying they can't win the SB, I don't know how anyone could say something like that after watching the Giants last year. But like others have already said, Ten looks a lot better right now because everyone else is down.

 

[kaa]

I can assure you that I have no bias against the Titans. I'm just a realistic observer. The Titans haven't beaten any of the top teams in the NFL. Kerry Collins is their starting QB. Justin Gage and Justin McCareins are their top two WRs. That worries me.For all the talk about how "defense wins championships," almost all of the last 15 Super Bowl winners had an elite franchise QB guiding their offense. The Titans can beat up on Huard, Flacco, and Frerotte, but what are they going to do against Cutler, Roethlisberger, Manning, Manning, Edwards, Rodgers, Romo, and Warner?

At this point last year, did you consider Eli as an elite franchise QB? And you might want to relook the last 15 champs, especially the last 10. many of these teams did not have elite QBs.

I concur.Trent Dilfer, Tom Brady circa 2001, Brad Johnson and Eli Manning were not considered great QBs when they won rings. Ben Roethlisberger had the worst game ever for a team crowned the champs.

 

[nxmehta]

Any discussion about the Titans has to begin and end with their schedule. As of right now they have only THREE games on their entire schedule against opponents who are over .500:

Green Bay

Chicago

Pittsburgh

We'll see if they win these. They are going to make the playoffs regardless though.

They have a tremendously favorable schedule, a journeyman QB and some weak WRs. On the other hand, they have a great defense and running game. They are well coached and very consistent. Most importantly, no one has beat them yet.

All of these factors appear to add up to a team that is going to win a ton of regular season games, look like a contender, but not make it that deep into the playoffs (AFC championship at best). I wouldn't say they are underrated or overrated at all- I think this is exactly where most people have them pegged. They just don't have the talent to go all the way.

If they make it though, hey, great for them. I'll be the first in line to admit that I was wrong.

 

[Blue-Kun]

I can assure you that I have no bias against the Titans. I'm just a realistic observer. The Titans haven't beaten any of the top teams in the NFL. Kerry Collins is their starting QB. Justin Gage and Justin McCareins are their top two WRs. That worries me.For all the talk about how "defense wins championships," almost all of the last 15 Super Bowl winners had an elite franchise QB guiding their offense. The Titans can beat up on Huard, Flacco, and Frerotte, but what are they going to do against Cutler, Roethlisberger, Manning, Manning, Edwards, Rodgers, Romo, and Warner?

At this point last year, did you consider Eli as an elite franchise QB? And you might want to relook the last 15 champs, especially the last 10. many of these teams did not have elite QBs.

1993: Troy Aikman1994: Steve Young1995: Troy Aikman1996: Brett Favre1997: John Elway1998: John Elway1999: Kurt Warner2000: Trent Dilfer2001: Tom Brady2002: Brad Johnson2003: Tom Brady2004: Tom Brady2005: Ben Roethlisberger2006: Peyton Manning2007: Eli ManningOk. So there was Dilfer and Brad Johnson for sure, jury is still out on Ben and Eli and Kurt Warner is debatable (although I think he's a great QB). So at absolute best, you have 5 non-elite - 3 of which can at least be considered very good and 2 that are the rough equivalent of Kerry Collins.

 

[FUBAR]

I can assure you that I have no bias against the Titans. I'm just a realistic observer. The Titans haven't beaten any of the top teams in the NFL. Kerry Collins is their starting QB. Justin Gage and Justin McCareins are their top two WRs. That worries me.

For all the talk about how "defense wins championships," almost all of the last 15 Super Bowl winners had an elite franchise QB guiding their offense. The Titans can beat up on Huard, Flacco, and Frerotte, but what are they going to do against Cutler, Roethlisberger, Manning, Manning, Edwards, Rodgers, Romo, and Warner?

At this point last year, did you consider Eli as an elite franchise QB? And you might want to relook the last 15 champs, especially the last 10. many of these teams did not have elite QBs.

1993: Troy Aikman1994: Steve Young

1995: Troy Aikman

1996: Brett Favre

1997: John Elway

1998: John Elway

1999: Kurt Warner

2000: Trent Dilfer

2001: Tom Brady

2002: Brad Johnson

2003: Tom Brady

2004: Tom Brady

2005: Ben Roethlisberger

2006: Peyton Manning

2007: Eli Manning

Ok. So there was Dilfer and Brad Johnson for sure, jury is still out on Ben and Eli and Kurt Warner is debatable (although I think he's a great QB). So at absolute best, you have 5 non-elite - 3 of which can at least be considered very good and 2 that are the rough equivalent of Kerry Collins.

Brady wasn't elite in 2001. Darn good, not yet elite. More of a game manager. He hadn't developed into the QB he would become.Ben in 2005 either.

In the last 10 years, I count 5 I would consider elite at the time.

 

[ben4titans]

I can assure you that I have no bias against the Titans. I'm just a realistic observer. The Titans haven't beaten any of the top teams in the NFL. Kerry Collins is their starting QB. Justin Gage and Justin McCareins are their top two WRs. That worries me.For all the talk about how "defense wins championships," almost all of the last 15 Super Bowl winners had an elite franchise QB guiding their offense. The Titans can beat up on Huard, Flacco, and Frerotte, but what are they going to do against Cutler, Roethlisberger, Manning, Manning, Edwards, Rodgers, Romo, and Warner?

Keep up the hate man. We already have wins against quality NFL teams, but dont fret, more will come. Fisher is using a great formula. Punch them in the mouth on defense, maul them with the run game, get a lead, then melt the clock as you continue to maul them in the run game. Funny, teams know we are going to run in at them and they still cant stop it. True our QB and WR's leave a lot to be desired but when the other team has to fully commit to stop the run it opens up the pass game enough.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Tennessee is elite on defense, very good in the run game, and OK in special teams and the passing game.

That is more than enough to be able to win a superbowl, but I do look forward to seeing how they do against Indy, Pitt, etc.

Early days...

 

[KCC]

Regardless of whether their talent equals their record, I think everyone has to agree this is the least publicized 6-0 team in recent memory.

 

[JohnnyTitan]

Who have they beaten?Nobody.I just can't see them hanging with the Broncos, Colts, or Steelers in a firefight.

You are horrible at this posting thing.

Be sure to bump this in a few months when Tennessee goes out in the first round of the playoffs. Fisher is a great coach. Maybe the best coach in the NFL. He always gets the most out of his teams, but Tennessee doesn't have the firepower on offense to beat the elite teams in the league. Minimize their ground game, get out to an early lead, game over. The only reason they're even in the discussion for the AFC crown is because NE and SD are down. I still don't think they can beat Pittsburgh, Denver, or Indianapolis in a playoff game.

I have to agree that you DO seem to be a bit of a Titan-Hater. And you are very caught up with their mediocre WR corps and game managing QB. There are several other facets to a good football team; O-Line, D-Line, Linebackers, Secondary, Coaching, Special Teams, Run game, emotion / leadership just to name a few.Maybe you'll argue with that. But as in College Ball, all the Titans can do right now is beat the teams the schedule puts in front of them. And they've done that. Good teams do that.Broncos: Didn't they just go into Arrowhead and lose to the same team the Titans just DESTROYED? Good teams should win games against lesser opponents. And then they drop again to the Jags. Hmm. Titans beat them too......Colts: You're kidding, right? I mean, we'll know for sure after Monday night, but the Colts should have lost to the Vikings and Texans (Titans beat them both, the Texans fairly handily), lost to the Jags (Titans beat them) and got destroyed by Green Bay and Chicago. Failing to see how they're better?Steelers: Make a good case. Lost to a good Eagles team (or are they?) and close wins vs Cle and Jax. I'm not saying the Titans are going undefeated or are a super-elite team, but to ignore what they've done this far is ridiculous. Good teams beat their opponents. The Titans have done that - in most cases in convincing fashion. You don't like their passing game? They haven't even needed it yet this year!And so your playoff scenario of them getting down big early and having to play catch-up ball and then be in trouble could pan out. But you know what else could pan out in a playoff game? They rush the ball, control the clock. Score some points. Don't make mistakes. The defense is awesome and the Titans never trail big and give themselves an excellent chance to win. My scenario has panned out several times already this season. Your scenario hasn't happened yet.

 

[MDSkinner]

I think it is pretty clear that they are a good team. I think the next 4 weeks will determine whether or not they are elite as they play Indy at home, GB at home, At Chicago and At Jax. If they win 3 of those games, it will be hard to argue that they are anything other than an elite team this year.

If they go 1-3 then it is a different story.

 

[two_dollars]

Winning the Super Bowl with a game manager at QB is the exception, not the rule. There will be a time (or 2) in the playoffs where they will have to go over somebody. I don't see that happening this year.

And Fubar, if you only count 5 elite QB's in the last 10 years, then you must consider Collins hot garbage?

 

[Bojang0301]

I would still question those who say the Broncos would beat this team. KC lined up and punched the Broncos in the mouth with the run. I have no doubt Ten would do the same.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I can assure you that I have no bias against the Titans. I'm just a realistic observer. The Titans haven't beaten any of the top teams in the NFL. Kerry Collins is their starting QB. Justin Gage and Justin McCareins are their top two WRs. That worries me.For all the talk about how "defense wins championships," almost all of the last 15 Super Bowl winners had an elite franchise QB guiding their offense. The Titans can beat up on Huard, Flacco, and Frerotte, but what are they going to do against Cutler, Roethlisberger, Manning, Manning, Edwards, Rodgers, Romo, and Warner?

At this point last year, did you consider Eli as an elite franchise QB? And you might want to relook the last 15 champs, especially the last 10. many of these teams did not have elite QBs.

1993: Troy Aikman1994: Steve Young1995: Troy Aikman1996: Brett Favre1997: John Elway1998: John Elway1999: Kurt Warner2000: Trent Dilfer2001: Tom Brady2002: Brad Johnson2003: Tom Brady2004: Tom Brady2005: Ben Roethlisberger2006: Peyton Manning2007: Eli ManningOk. So there was Dilfer and Brad Johnson for sure, jury is still out on Ben and Eli and Kurt Warner is debatable (although I think he's a great QB). So at absolute best, you have 5 non-elite - 3 of which can at least be considered very good and 2 that are the rough equivalent of Kerry Collins.

Warner was elite in '99. That is really not debatable.

 

[Statcruncher]

Kudos to the Titans for being undefeated but I'm not sold on them being a powerhouse. They've played a fairly weak schedule and manhandled some opponents but there are telling signs that concern me.

1. They rush for 150+ yards per game but only pass for 162 yards per game. It's not difficult to gameplan against them, all it takes is stuffing the run and forcing Collins to throw. They will play teams that have the personnel to do this effectively.

2. The Titans are not exploiting any team, let alone the weak ones, like an elite team normally would. Granted they use a ball-control offense and play with a lead often so they will have slightly lower yardage numbers than typical. Of all the teams they've faced they've only accrued more yardage than the opponent usually allows once.

Week - Opponent's avg total yards allowed - Titans' offense total yards - Opponent

#1 - 350 - 309 - Jacksonville

#2 - 336 - 305 - Cincy

#3 - 345 - 343 - Houston

#4 - 305 - 275 - Minnesota

#5 - 252 - 210 - Baltimore

#7 - 402 - 455 - Kansas City

Week - Opponent's avg pts allowed - Titans' pts - Opponent

#1 - 21.3 - 17 - Jacksonville

#2 - 26.0 - 24 - Cincy (had a DEF/ST TD)

#3 - 29.8 - 31 - Houston (had a DEF/ST TD)

#4 - 23.9 - 30 - Minnesota

#5 - 16.7 - 13 - Baltimore

#7 - 27.5 - 34 - Kansas City

3. I don't believe in the Titans' WR's. I think Gage, McCareins, and Jones are all capable WR's, but I don't really see a #1 or even a stout #2 WR in that group. Combined they have 1 TD. If an opponent takes away the running game I don't see how this crew can win a game by themselves.

All told this team reminds me alot of the Chicago Bears and their most recent SB run. Chicago had a stifling defense, a very solid running game, and a passing game that was incredible or anemic depending on the day. Grossman flat out won some games for Chicago, lost some games for Chicago, and the D carried them them the rest of the way (further than they really deserved).

Unfortunately I don't think the Titans' D is as good, but we'll know more as the season progresses. While Collins has minimized throwing the game away ala Grossman, he has yet to prove he can win a game either. History is not on his side as he's been an INT and fumbling machine in the past.

I think they're a solid team that will make the playoffs, but much like the Bears they need everything to go their way and are vulnerable to being knocked out on any given sunday. It's easy to win a game with the lead and a solid rushing game. It's harder to come from behind with Collins and those WR's.

 

[Bri]

Kudos to the Titans for being undefeated but I'm not sold on them being a powerhouse. They've played a fairly weak schedule and manhandled some opponents but there are telling signs that concern me.

their opponent gets a L, that lends to the "weak schedule" when we're only 7 games in

1. They rush for 150+ yards per game but only pass for 162 yards per game. It's not difficult to gameplan against them, all it takes is stuffing the run and forcing Collins to throw. They will play teams that have the personnel to do this effectively.

They played the Ravens, Jags, and the Vikings. Do you seriously think those teams can't stop the run if all they had to do was stop it? It's not difficult to gameplan against them is right but, they have one of the best OL and OL coaches so good luck stopping the run. It's funny how many people almost hint that it's easy to stop them yet fail to point out how no one did.

2. The Titans are not exploiting any team, let alone the weak ones, like an elite team normally would. Granted they use a ball-control offense and play with a lead often so they will have slightly lower yardage numbers than typical. Of all the teams they've faced they've only accrued more yardage than the opponent usually allows once.Week - Opponent's avg total yards allowed - Titans' offense total yards - Opponent#1 - 350 - 309 - Jacksonville#2 - 336 - 305 - Cincy#3 - 345 - 343 - Houston#4 - 305 - 275 - Minnesota#5 - 252 - 210 - Baltimore#7 - 402 - 455 - Kansas CityWeek - Opponent's avg pts allowed - Titans' pts - Opponent#1 - 21.3 - 17 - Jacksonville#2 - 26.0 - 24 - Cincy (had a DEF/ST TD)#3 - 29.8 - 31 - Houston (had a DEF/ST TD)#4 - 23.9 - 30 - Minnesota#5 - 16.7 - 13 - Baltimore#7 - 27.5 - 34 - Kansas City

learn something new and useless everyday

All told this team reminds me alot of the Chicago Bears and their most recent SB run. Chicago had a stifling defense, a very solid running game, and a passing game that was incredible or anemic depending on the day. Grossman flat out won some games for Chicago, lost some games for Chicago, and the D carried them them the rest of the way (further than they really deserved).

they don't have Grossman, which was a big prob for the Bears then

Unfortunately I don't think the Titans' D is as good, but we'll know more as the season progresses.

I hate when people do this around here but I have to lean toward that you haven't watched a game then. I can't imagine watching their D in 2008 and not being impressed. I just don't see it. Even when the Texans had a great first half, they shredded them in the 2nd half and the Texans looked helpless.

While Collins has minimized throwing the game away ala Grossman, he has yet to prove he can win a game either. History is not on his side as he's been an INT and fumbling machine in the past.

history? he's been to a Supe and the NFCC game. List the other NFL starters that have that historical experience.yet to prove he can win a game? He's no rookie.

 

[Jercules]

Tennessee still runs a 46 defense, which is high pressure as well as high risk. They can smother weak offenses, but what can they do against great offenses?

 

[Statcruncher]

Kudos to the Titans for being undefeated but I'm not sold on them being a powerhouse. They've played a fairly weak schedule and manhandled some opponents but there are telling signs that concern me.

their opponent gets a L, that lends to the "weak schedule" when we're only 7 games in.

Let's take the Tennessee losses out of the equation and see what's left:3-2 Jacksonville (WINS: Indy, Houston, Denver LOSSES: Buffalo, Pittsburgh)0-6 Cincy (WINS: n/a LOSSES: Baltimore, NYGiants, Cleveland, Dallas, NYJets, Pittsburgh)2-3 Houston (WINS: Miami, Detroit LOSSES: Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Indy)3-3 Minnesota (WINS: Carolina, New Orleans, Detroit LOSSES: Green Bay, Indy, Chicago)3-2 Baltimore (WINS: Cincy, Cleveland, Miami LOSSES: Pittsburgh, Indy)1-4 Kansas City (WINS: Denver LOSSES: New England, Oakland, Atlanta, Carolina)Those teams are a cumulative 12-20 and while many things can change, none of them are even favored to make the playoffs. All I'm saying is that Tennessee is middle of the pack in scoring even though they've played a less than stellar schedule. It will be interesting to see how this season turns out.

 

[jwinston2]

Tennessee still runs a 46 defense, which is high pressure as well as high risk. They can smother weak offenses, but what can they do against great offenses?

Uhmm the 85 Bears used the 46 defense.

 

[Bills_Fan11]

This Denver team is good. On the plus side, they can always brag about their schedule after this game since NE will be 4-2. If they had won this game NE would be just another middling garbage .500 team, so it could be a nice strategy to play like ### for the 3rd time in 4 weeks.

 

[Bri]

Kudos to the Titans for being undefeated but I'm not sold on them being a powerhouse. They've played a fairly weak schedule and manhandled some opponents but there are telling signs that concern me.

their opponent gets a L, that lends to the "weak schedule" when we're only 7 games in.

Let's take the Tennessee losses out of the equation and see what's left:3-2 Jacksonville (WINS: Indy, Houston, Denver LOSSES: Buffalo, Pittsburgh)0-6 Cincy (WINS: n/a LOSSES: Baltimore, NYGiants, Cleveland, Dallas, NYJets, Pittsburgh)2-3 Houston (WINS: Miami, Detroit LOSSES: Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Indy)3-3 Minnesota (WINS: Carolina, New Orleans, Detroit LOSSES: Green Bay, Indy, Chicago)3-2 Baltimore (WINS: Cincy, Cleveland, Miami LOSSES: Pittsburgh, Indy)1-4 Kansas City (WINS: Denver LOSSES: New England, Oakland, Atlanta, Carolina)Those teams are a cumulative 12-20 and while many things can change, none of them are even favored to make the playoffs. All I'm saying is that Tennessee is middle of the pack in scoring even though they've played a less than stellar schedule. It will be interesting to see how this season turns out.

There's alot of familiar teams there.Minny and Jax have some nice Ws to go with losing to real good teams. I'm confident that at the end of 08, they'll be no shame in losing to the teams they did. Beating Indy, NO, and Carolina also shows some positive too so I'm not sure they're bad teams despite their meh record. "Jury is still out" IMOSorry if I was harsh before bro, definitely wasn't my favorite batch of stats you posted but nonetheless sorry

 

[FUBAR]

And Fubar, if you only count 5 elite QB's in the last 10 years, then you must consider Collins hot garbage?

My definition of elite is a player who can, and does, put the team on his shoulders and win the game even if other things are going badly. Guys like Elway, Marino (despite lack of SBs), Montana, Young, Favre, Peyton, and Brady in the last few years. At the time of their first SB win, Brady and Ben were not "elite". Dilfer and Johnson never were, and Eli could be but was not yet. All I'm saying is you have to look at the player at the time, not what he became.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I can assure you that I have no bias against the Titans. I'm just a realistic observer. The Titans haven't beaten any of the top teams in the NFL. Kerry Collins is their starting QB. Justin Gage and Justin McCareins are their top two WRs. That worries me.

For all the talk about how "defense wins championships," almost all of the last 15 Super Bowl winners had an elite franchise QB guiding their offense. The Titans can beat up on Huard, Flacco, and Frerotte, but what are they going to do against Cutler, Roethlisberger, Manning, Manning, Edwards, Rodgers, Romo, and Warner?

:whoosh:

I'm not sure this is true. I'm not the only one who has picked up on an anti-Titans bias from you. So do tell?What's with the anti-Titans mojo first of all?

While we're here, tell me who is better b/c the Titans are the best I've seen by far this season. If you're skeptical of the Titans, then you're giving some awfully bad teams way too much credit.

Now there's this rabid Titans fan that hangs out at the bar, and he swears they're going to the Super Bowl . . . which I'm fine with except for the not-so-minor detail that they desperately needed to pick up a playmaking WR at the trade deadline. Chris Johnson is the only offensive player on the team right now that can create yardage. He really is making them a different team, but that's not going to last all season if they can't pass the ball.

I think come playoff time, the Steelers will take them down b/c they don't have a playmaker other than Chris Johnson. Meanwhile, it's Kerry Collins vs. Big Ben, and that's as lopsided as they come.

 

[EBF]

I'm not sure this is true. I'm not the only one who has picked up on an anti-Titans bias from you. So do tell?What's with the anti-Titans mojo first of all?

I'm not from Tennessee. I've never been to Tennessee. I wasn't beaten up in kindergarten by an Oilers fan. I have no reason to dislike the Titans. As a matter of fact, I used to follow them in the late Eddie years because someone I knew had a brother on the team. I just call it like I see it. The Titans have blown a lot of high draft picks over the past decade. They took Chris Henry in the 2nd round when everyone who watches Pac-10 football could've told them he was garbage. They passed on Jay Cutler and Matt Leinart for gimmicky Vince Young. Then the next year, with an acute need for talent at WR, they passed on Dwayne Bowe for a safety. Calico, Woolfolk, Roby, P. Williams, LenWhale. Tennessee's scouting has been a running joke in recent years and their football team has been the definition of mediocre. That's not a vicious anti-Titans bias. It's just the facts. I'll give them credit for playing well this season, but they haven't beaten anyone that I would classify as anything better than mediocre. Why am I supposed to take them seriously as a Super Bowl contender? Their starting QB is still Kerry Collins. Their starting two WRs were castoffs from mediocre franchises. I just don't see how this team is supposed to hang with the better offensive teams in the league from week-to-week. They might win a playoff game or two, but sooner or later someone like Edwards or Roethlisberger will carve them up and that will be the end of that. The only reason they're even in the AFC title conversation is because Indy, SD, and NE are down big time from where they were a year ago.

 

[CASS101]

I'm not sure this is true. I'm not the only one who has picked up on an anti-Titans bias from you. So do tell?What's with the anti-Titans mojo first of all?

I'm not from Tennessee. I've never been to Tennessee. I wasn't beaten up in kindergarten by an Oilers fan. I have no reason to dislike the Titans. As a matter of fact, I used to follow them in the late Eddie years because someone I knew had a brother on the team. I just call it like I see it. The Titans have blown a lot of high draft picks over the past decade. They took Chris Henry in the 2nd round when everyone who watches Pac-10 football could've told them he was garbage. They passed on Jay Cutler and Matt Leinart for gimmicky Vince Young. Then the next year, with an acute need for talent at WR, they passed on Dwayne Bowe for a safety. Calico, Woolfolk, Roby, P. Williams, LenWhale. Tennessee's scouting has been a running joke in recent years and their football team has been the definition of mediocre. That's not a vicious anti-Titans bias. It's just the facts. I'll give them credit for playing well this season, but they haven't beaten anyone that I would classify as anything better than mediocre. Why am I supposed to take them seriously as a Super Bowl contender? Their starting QB is still Kerry Collins. Their starting two WRs were castoffs from mediocre franchises. I just don't see how this team is supposed to hang with the better offensive teams in the league from week-to-week. They might win a playoff game or two, but sooner or later someone like Edwards or Roethlisberger will carve them up and that will be the end of that. The only reason they're even in the AFC title conversation is because Indy, SD, and NE are down big time from where they were a year ago.

I'm getting sick and tired of everyone cracking jokes about Collins. Is he an elite QB? No. But he is a veteran who does exactly what is asked of him in this offense. Even the great Tom Brady would not put up great stats in this offense. Justin Gage and Justin McCareins are our starting WRs...... No, they are not the best WRs in the league. But did you know that both of them have only played in half of our games this year due to injuries. So yeah, that's not exactly helping Collns out either.....I can't believe that you just mentioned Trent Edwards name in the same sentence with Roethlisberger. Tell me you didn't just do that.And speaking of the Steelers. I can't wait for the Titans/Steelers matchup later this year. It's going to be a great one.And finally I will repeat this again here. The Titans split with Indy last year. Our loss to them was by 2 points. Both were low scoring games though. We also did lose to SD 23-17 last year as well. But my point here is the fact that we are a much, much better team than we were last year.