Tennessee Titans (1 Viewer)

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

My observations, predictions and prognostications.

Jim Schwartz will not be the D coordinator next year. I don't think they'd fire him mid-season, but who knows? I'd like to see McGinnis if mid-season. If after the year, I sure wish we could get Greg Williams back but there is no way. Maybe Jerry Gray? His scheme is just pitiful. Pitiful, I said. Talk about personnel all you want, but it was the same even when he had Schulters, Dyson, Rolle, etc. The players change but he still sucks. As someone said, “He’s all brains and no balls.”
The leadership is in shambles and the coaching is a debacle. Chow – not translating to the pros at all. It is purely horizontal and relies purely on YAC. Reggie can do that vs. Fresno St. Doesn't work vs. NFL defenses. Schwartz – it is a shame that computers can’t tackle. Sherman – our receivers are regressing. Reese and Fisher – who the H is responsible for this QB debacle? How do you have a QB for 7 years and decide 10 days before game 1 that he can’t handle it?
Kerry Collins? Geesh. I honestly think that Volek would be doing considerably better than Collins.
Vince Young takes over at some point this season. I'm saying game 6 or 7.
I think Givens will be “solid” but not at all worth the money they paid him.
Titans should do whatever possible next year to completely revamp the offensive line. Let me rephrase that and say they MUST revamp the OLine. If the Titans could get two really good OL and one really good DE – I think it would make a world of difference.
Lamont Thompson is the source of about 90% of the secondary’s ills. That guy is a day late and a dollar short on every play.
I still agree with letting McNair go. The cap ramifications would have just been too severe.Summary: I’ve resisted the notion that Fisher is gone. I still think it very unlikely though I think Reese could very well be gone. However, if it is decided that Fisher is responsible for the Schwartz, Chow, Sherman, QB crap – then he may very well be gone. Fisher does have full staff hiring authority. It is pretty bad here...and I'm not just talking about the product on the field. I'm talking about behind closed doors.

 

[jurb26]

Seriously, what was Tenn thinking by letting Collins start on such short notice?

 

[Dolfan]

Despite all of this, Drew Bennett still had a very good day...

As someone who obviously follows the Titans closely -- do you think he will keep up the production -- or will he be mostly hit and miss this year, from a fantasy perspective??

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I had to clean out my ears with a Q-tip when I heard the Volek chant from the crowd to make sure it wasn't just a vendor yelling "Cold beer".

That pass D is going to make a lot of QBs look good this year.

At least David Thornton has some spirited play and justified his signing.

 

[CrossEyed]

So is Chris Brown now officially worthless as a fantasy RB?

 

[diesel7982]

Seriously, what was Tenn thinking by letting Collins start on such short notice?

That hes STILL a significant improvement over Billy Volek?

 

[diesel7982]

Despite all of this, Drew Bennett still had a very good day...As someone who obviously follows the Titans closely -- do you think he will keep up the production -- or will he be mostly hit and miss this year, from a fantasy perspective??

His matchup with the Jets was a very very good one. Wouldnt count on seeing it alot.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Despite all of this, Drew Bennett still had a very good day...As someone who obviously follows the Titans closely -- do you think he will keep up the production -- or will he be mostly hit and miss this year, from a fantasy perspective??

Bennett looked good, real good. He should be the #1 option in the passing game, although his value will take a hit if (when) Young takes over. He would be better cast as a #2 to a speedy WR, but on the Titans, he'll be the top option in the passing game.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

So is Chris Brown now officially worthless as a fantasy RB?

Pretty much. He'll have a 140/2 game sometime this year but you'll be disappointed the rest of the time.

 

[Rushmore]

I thought Volek should've started that game, even if they envisioned Collins to eventually start. Not enough time for Collins to be ready to start in such short notice imo. Titans secondary looked bad, especially Thompson.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

Despite all of this, Drew Bennett still had a very good day...As someone who obviously follows the Titans closely -- do you think he will keep up the production -- or will he be mostly hit and miss this year, from a fantasy perspective??

Hit and miss, for sure. His numbers looked good but he dropped a couple of gimmes. Seems scared to take the hit. He'll end with respectable WR3 FF numbers.

 

[jurb26]

Seriously, what was Tenn thinking by letting Collins start on such short notice?

That hes STILL a significant improvement over Billy Volek?

:X

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

I thought Volek should've started that game, even if they envisioned Collins to eventually start. Not enough time for Collins to be ready to start in such short notice imo. Titans secondary looked bad, especially Thompson.

I may be completely misguided here. BUT, apart from Lamont Thompson's play and one missed read by Hill -- I thought they did ok. It was the SCHEME that was horrible. Computer boy had the CBs playing 12 yards off the WR and Pennington hit them in the flat every time. This happened all day. I'll guaranteed you that PacMan didn't make that alignment decision by himself. We should replace Lamont with Lowery or Fuller. By the way, Finnegan look really good, I thought. Forced fumble on a sack and almost an INT.

 

[CrossEyed]

So is Chris Brown now officially worthless as a fantasy RB?

Pretty much. He'll have a 140/2 game sometime this year but you'll be disappointed the rest of the time.

Can you tell me which week that will happen?

 

[PahtyTom]

Despite all of this, Drew Bennett still had a very good day...As someone who obviously follows the Titans closely -- do you think he will keep up the production -- or will he be mostly hit and miss this year, from a fantasy perspective??

Hit and miss, for sure. His numbers looked good but he dropped a couple of gimmes. Seems scared to take the hit. He'll end with respectable WR3 FF numbers.

According to FBG, Bennett had 17 targets! WOW. Givens had 4 and so did Troupe.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Despite all of this, Drew Bennett still had a very good day...As someone who obviously follows the Titans closely -- do you think he will keep up the production -- or will he be mostly hit and miss this year, from a fantasy perspective??

Hit and miss, for sure. His numbers looked good but he dropped a couple of gimmes. Seems scared to take the hit. He'll end with respectable WR3 FF numbers.

I think it'll be hit more than miss unless Troupe or Givens really step up. Despite his drops, he still looked like the most reliable target to me, in a passing offense that will likely be playing from behind a lot. I like him to eclipse 1K yards this year if he can stay healthy.

 

[PahtyTom]

My observations, predictions and prognostications.

Vince Young takes over at some point this season. I'm saying game 6 or 7.

What are the chances of this really happening? 50 percent? Higher or lower? If he does take over, how will that effect Drew Bennett? Bennett had 17 targets yesterday mostly from Collins. If VY takes over, I'd have to think that Bennett's value would crash big time.

 

[Da Guru]

Despite all of this, Drew Bennett still had a very good day...As someone who obviously follows the Titans closely -- do you think he will keep up the production -- or will he be mostly hit and miss this year, from a fantasy perspective??

Bennett is worth starting due to the fact that Tenn wil probably be coming from behind most game and he is the #1 option..could translate into good numbers.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

My observations, predictions and prognostications.

Vince Young takes over at some point this season. I'm saying game 6 or 7.

What are the chances of this really happening? 50 percent? Higher or lower? If he does take over, how will that effect Drew Bennett? Bennett had 17 targets yesterday mostly from Collins. If VY takes over, I'd have to think that Bennett's value would crash big time.

I'd say there is a 40-50% chance that VY starts at least 6 games the second half of the season.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I posted in another thread, but I'll chime in with some observations too...

- The D scheme was indeed atrocious. Haynesworth was getting pressure up the middle on every snap, but it doesn't matter since the QB is able to unload it for a 10 yard gain every time since the CBs are playing too deep.

- Finnegan looked good indeed.

- Thompson - :X

- I thought the Offense was asleep. Like none of them thought they were going to score at any point in the game. Vince coming in and firing things up helped a little, but Collins was worse than I expected. I understand not knowing the offense, but he was flat out terrible.

- Vince's passing performance was about what was expected, even though the sample was small. Good on the short/mid stuff (3 completions on well thrown passes w/ touch) and bad on the deep stuff (1 attempt, 1 INT).

- LOVED the zone-read completion, Vince to Wade. That could turn in to a dangerous formation, particularly if they run it no-huddle from time to time.

- No idea who I start at QB next week. None whatsoever. But Collins is going to need to improve a TON this week if he's going to be the guy. Otherwise, I might already be tempted to throw Vince to the wolves.

-Losing to Jets in week 1 certainly doesn't doom the season, but we're well on our way to another disappointment. I've said all along that I think you put Vince in when the team is 3 or 4 games under .500. I was hoping that would be week 9 or 10. If they play like they did yesterday, it will be week 4.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Jesus you Tennessee guys are tough on your team. Some of the passes that were way off were errors in routes (probably on Collins) and that will get worked out. It's not like he was aiming for the WR who cut in at the and the ball somehow went deep downfield. He started catching on that he couldn't rely too much on protection and did better later in the game. I think that continues to improve.

Fantasy-wise he had a better day than several other better rated QBs

 

[Statorama]

So is Chris Brown now officially worthless as a fantasy RB?

Now?

 

[enfuego]

Despite all of this, Drew Bennett still had a very good day...As someone who obviously follows the Titans closely -- do you think he will keep up the production -- or will he be mostly hit and miss this year, from a fantasy perspective??

Hit and miss, for sure. His numbers looked good but he dropped a couple of gimmes. Seems scared to take the hit. He'll end with respectable WR3 FF numbers.

WMD, you are being nice. Bennett is very confusing. One moment, he hand hands of steel...the next, he makes a great catch. IMHO, when Brandon Jones gets healthy, he and Givens should eventually be the starters, because of Bennett's inconsistency. There were 2-3 big 3rd down plays where Collins threw to him and the ball either bounced off his hands or went through his arms. That's just unacceptable for a starter.

 

[enfuego]

I thought Volek should've started that game, even if they envisioned Collins to eventually start. Not enough time for Collins to be ready to start in such short notice imo. Titans secondary looked bad, especially Thompson.

I may be completely misguided here. BUT, apart from Lamont Thompson's play and one missed read by Hill -- I thought they did ok. It was the SCHEME that was horrible. Computer boy had the CBs playing 12 yards off the WR and Pennington hit them in the flat every time. This happened all day. I'll guaranteed you that PacMan didn't make that alignment decision by himself. We should replace Lamont with Lowery or Fuller. By the way, Finnegan look really good, I thought. Forced fumble on a sack and almost an INT.

But it was Hope that got burned on the late Jets drive... I just hope the run D will show up vs. LaDanian Tomlinson or it will be a very long afternoon.

 

[malice]

Hindsight is always 20/20...but what would the Titans have had to lose by putting Vince Young in for the final drive? At least then the Jets would have had to plan for the possibility of Young running in the tying score himself.

Any chance Volek goes to KC now? I can't see Volek staying as the #3.

 

[Z-Dog]

So is Chris Brown now officially worthless as a fantasy RB?

No. It appears that Henry is the goaline back, but don't overreact to a single game - Brown will get plenty of opportunities.

Despite all of this, Drew Bennett still had a very good day...As someone who obviously follows the Titans closely -- do you think he will keep up the production -- or will he be mostly hit and miss this year, from a fantasy perspective??

His matchup with the Jets was a very very good one. Wouldnt count on seeing it alot.

His matchup with the Jets was not good - he was matched up with Andre Dyson, who is a very good corner (and who had two picks). The Jets have a good defense, which people have completely forgotten about. The greater issue is not the matchups, but a horrible QB situation.

 

[Warpig]

Hindsight is always 20/20...but what would the Titans have had to lose by putting Vince Young in for the final drive? At least then the Jets would have had to plan for the possibility of Young running in the tying score himself.

Any chance Volek goes to KC now? I can't see Volek staying as the #3.

That's exactly what I thought when Green went down. Unfortunately, I don't think KC has the picks to part with that Tennessee would want.

 

[Hawk]

Here's Tenn's upcoming schedule:

@San Diego

@Miami

DALLAS

@Indianapolis

@Washington

After watching them struggle with the Jets, I will frankly be surprised if Tenn can win any of those games. The schedulemaker did them no favors other than serving them up the Jets at home in week 1, and we saw how that went.

Here's a prediction. If Tennessee loses on the road to SD and Miami in the next two weeks (highly likely), Vince will start game 4 at home against Dallas and will remain the starter from there on out. If Vince comes in for a series or two and moves the team down for scores in the next couple of games, that timetable could even be sooner.

For those who did not watch the whole game, it was pretty clear that the team was a lot more energized when Vince came in. He made three good throws and then made a good read, but poor throw on the deep ball for the INT. Despite the interception, he seemed to provide a spark in an otherwise listless effort. The sentiment among Titans fans already is starting to sway toward getting him in there. One or two more losses will seal that deal.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

I thought Volek should've started that game, even if they envisioned Collins to eventually start. Not enough time for Collins to be ready to start in such short notice imo. Titans secondary looked bad, especially Thompson.

I may be completely misguided here. BUT, apart from Lamont Thompson's play and one missed read by Hill -- I thought they did ok. It was the SCHEME that was horrible. Computer boy had the CBs playing 12 yards off the WR and Pennington hit them in the flat every time. This happened all day. I'll guaranteed you that PacMan didn't make that alignment decision by himself. We should replace Lamont with Lowery or Fuller. By the way, Finnegan look really good, I thought. Forced fumble on a sack and almost an INT.

But it was Hope that got burned on the late Jets drive... I just hope the run D will show up vs. LaDanian Tomlinson or it will be a very long afternoon.

No, Hill got burned but Hope just couldn't get all the way over there to cover for him.

 

[wannabee]

Tuesday, 09/19/06

Collins still starter

Fisher says veteran QB better fit for team now than Young or Volek

By JIM WYATT

Staff Writer

Kerry Collins will remain the starting quarterback for the Titans, Coach Jeff Fisher said Monday.

Those clamoring for rookie Vince Young or even No. 3 quarterback Billy Volek aren't going to get what they want — at least not yet.

"Kerry was brought here because of his experience and we are sticking with Kerry," Fisher said. "We're going to continue to develop Vince. Kerry's experience is the reason he is playing. He has all kinds of experience in this league under center and Billy has basically had back-up experience.

"You are entitled to disagree with our decision, but that is the decision we made and we have reasons for it."

Meanwhile, the Titans and Chargers continued discussions about a trade involving Volek on Monday and there are indications a deal could be reached as early as today.

The Chargers have offered a sixth-round pick for Volek. If the Titans and Chargers can't agree to a deal, the Raiders and Chiefs also remain in the running for Volek, who has agreed to waive his no-trade clause.

Collins turned in his second consecutive shaky performance in Sunday's 40-7 loss at San Diego, going 6-of-19 passing for 57 yards with two interceptions. His quarterback rating: 1.3.

Through two games Collins has completed just 40.4 percent of his passes — the worst percentage of any NFL starting quarterback.

Young is 10-of-23 for 133 yards, one touchdown and one interception through two games.

"People in Tennessee have been wanting Vince to start the whole time,'' center Kevin Mawae said. "But that is a decision coaches will make when the time is ready.''

Fisher said Collins is improving and Young isn't ready.

"Our approach is going to be to bring him along slowly,'' Fisher said of Young.

"When he is ready we'll turn the keys over to him. He is ahead of schedule and that is encouraging. But he is not, without going into details, ready to come in and start a game and play an entire game.''

The other Titans have tried to steer clear of the quarterback debate.

"There is probably some guys saying (go with Young), but it is all a coach's decision,'' receiver David Givens said. "The coach is going to put the best player out there that they think will help the team win.''

"I am happy with either guy,'' receiver Drew Bennett said. "I think both guys have done what they have been coached to do and they haven't gotten a lot of help around them. But I think both can be successful.''

Ex-Bengals linebacker Solomon Wilcots, an analyst for CBS, said Fisher is making the right decision.

"At quarterback, you have to nurture that position, you have to bring that guy along," Wilcots said. "Because if you throw him in too soon, and he starts taking hits, and he can't read protections and bad things start happening … I am telling you, it is like being in a car crash. And from that day forward, every time he goes through that four-way stop, the light is green, but you are still hitting the brakes." •

That tragic moment, even though you recovered and you are fine, it has left an indelible mark on the brain.

"People need to just be patient with Vince. His time will eventually come.''

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl...362/1328/SPORTS

 

[wannabee]

Tuesday, 09/19/06

Loss troubles Haynesworth

Titans defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth strayed from tradition Monday regarding Tennessee's 40-7 loss in San Diego.

Asked if the game film revealed things weren't as bad as he expected, Haynesworth said it was worse.

And he was talking about himself.

"I thought I played like crap," he said. "Most of the time I knew the blocks I was going to get, so I started playing the guy who was blocking me instead of actually my technique."

With Antwan Odom (knee) and Robaire Smith (hamstring) out, the Titans had only two extra defensive linemen and were not able to rotate, which is their preferred method.

Haynesworth didn't use it as an excuse, but said he played 60 plays. Josh Savage, the third defensive end, said he contributed only 16 to help out starters Kyle Vanden Bosch and Travis LaBoy.

Because the Titans ran only 57 plays compared to 73 for the Chargers, Tennessee's defense didn't have a lot of time to rest.

Haynesworth said defensive line coach Jim Washburn could hardly get started offering corrections between series before the group had to return to the field.

Coach Jeff Fisher said the limits of the rotation and the amount of time the defense was on the field made it especially difficult to generate a pass rush.

"It is difficult to rush the passer when you're playing and your offense is not converting third downs and your defense is going back on the field," Fisher said. "Am I concerned about the pass rush? Yes. Do I think it's going to be a thing that happens every week? No I don't."

Smith said he has a tear in his right hamstring but expects to return to action Sunday in Miami. Odom is expected to miss his third consecutive game.

Foul mood: Tight end Ben Troupe hinted that frustration is building between players.

"It is always bickering when you are not winning games," Troupe said. "Obviously we are out there to win and when you are not getting it done frustration obviously occurs. But we have to find a way to eliminate the bickering and complaining and get some wins."

Asked if the bickering involves players and coaches, Troupe said: "It is all around, man."

Troupe suspects some of the frustration stems from the decision to sign Kerry Collins instead of sticking with Billy Volek at quarterback.

"I am pretty sure some guys are (questioning it)," Troupe said. "I am not one of them and who is to say that Kerry isn't hearing it, too. But he is a strong-willed guy and is thick-skinned and can deal with it. And as a team we have to start rooting for each other. We can't be talking behind each other's back and things of that nature. We have to try and keep everything in house."

Good review: Fisher praised the play of David Stewart, who started his first NFL game at right tackle in place of the injured Jacob Bell (toe).

"He did a nice job," Fisher said. "He had a couple of issues, but he was physical and pass-protected well. … He's got a good future."

Fisher said the right tackle job will revert to Bell when he's ready to return.

One liner: Asked about comments by Chargers safety Marlon McCree, who said the Chargers weren't surprised by anything the Titans did on offense, Fisher maintained a sense of humor.

"When there's a game this lopsided, people have a tendency to say those kinds of things," Fisher said. "I don't know how he could say that, I didn't know what we were going to do."

Injuries: Fisher reported two new injuries from Sunday's game. Cornerback Reynaldo Hill has a strained knee and linebacker Robert Reynolds has a thigh contusion. Fisher said four players who missed the game — Bell, Smith, fullback Ahmard Hall (toe) and running back Travis Henry (toe) — all remain day to day.

—PAUL KUHARSKY, JIM WYATT

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl...365/1328/SPORTS

 

[SigEp316]

it's going to be a long year....we'll have a top pick again next year.

 

[wannabee]

Report: Titans owner has VY penciled in soon

Published Fri Sep 22 11:40:00 p.m. ET 2006

(Rotoworld) ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports Titans owner Bud Adams may be giving coach Jeff Fisher a "drop-dead date" to make Vince Young the starter.

Impact: Mortensen, who also provides an inside scoop on the Billy Volek situation to the best of his knowledge, says Adams may be looking for Young to take over by October 29. The Titans face the Texans on said date.

 

[PACKER 7]

Injuries: Fisher reported two new injuries from Sunday's game. Cornerback Reynaldo Hill has a strained knee and linebacker Robert Reynolds has a thigh contusion. Fisher said four players who missed the game — Bell, Smith, fullback Ahmard Hall (toe) and running back Travis Henry (toe) — all remain day to day.

What is the difference in DTD and Questionable? Does this mean that T. Henry has been upgraded? Just wondering.

 

[Wadsworth]

Until the titans hire someone that knows how to draft the other changes aren't going to matter. They've had 34 draft picks in the last 3 drafts and don't have much to show for it.

 

[Bri]

WMI,

re YAC and Chow, the Rams and Niners of their glory days did wonderfully with offenses that seemed predicated on YAC. The difference(IMO) being each QB had a gift for leading the receiver oh so perfectly so that he didn't have to break stride.

I've often been a fan of the Titans underappreciated D. Those almost no name Ds were rock solid, this is just a no name D.

I'm not sure Lombardi could win with that team

 

[Drop]

I remember when the Titans played with pride and thrived on adversity.

Titan players never signed with the Ravens, but in the last couple of years I think that it's a way to say F you to the organization.

I know that it's a business and all that stuff, but you have to take some pride in working with a core group for so long.

I am just curious as to how Eddie George feels about Rolle, Mason, and McNair playing for Baltimore. I don't know if he'd give a PC cliche or not. Anywhere but Baltimore and I wouldn't even wonder about it, but true Titan fans unstand and it hurts.

The Titans don't play how they use to and it has more to do with heart than talent. Jeff Fisher isn't the problem, the problem is that the guys that he turned into players can't be kept because the front office can't make the numbers work and they now have to bring in scrubs that end up starting. In the old days, Robaire Smith was a scrub, the weak link on D. Now he is considered a solid piece to the puzzle? Why did the front office force the Vince Young pick and at the same time clown his mentor and friend Steve McNair? Do you really think that if he develops he will stay after the way McNair was handled? How much does that treatment affect other players from coming to Tennessee?

When things were good in Tennessee, the only people that I talked to that could see the problems to come were Oilers fans. They knew the teams were great despite the owner/front office and not because of it. They were right.

 

[Weapon of Mass Instruction]

I like being right, but...I do wish my original post from two weeks ago hadn't been as accurate as it appears to have been.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Bennett looked good, real good. He should be the #1 option in the passing game, although his value will take a hit if (when) Young takes over.

I wouldn't be so sure.Bennett's only TD this year was thrown by Young. I would also think the Young qb would be looking for the big, veteran wr a lot, along with the tes Troupe and Scaife.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

I posted in another thread, but I'll chime in with some observations too...

- The D scheme was indeed atrocious. Haynesworth was getting pressure up the middle on every snap, but it doesn't matter since the QB is able to unload it for a 10 yard gain every time since the CBs are playing too deep.

- Finnegan looked good indeed.

- Thompson - :X

- I thought the Offense was asleep. Like none of them thought they were going to score at any point in the game. Vince coming in and firing things up helped a little, but Collins was worse than I expected. I understand not knowing the offense, but he was flat out terrible.

- Vince's passing performance was about what was expected, even though the sample was small. Good on the short/mid stuff (3 completions on well thrown passes w/ touch) and bad on the deep stuff (1 attempt, 1 INT).

- LOVED the zone-read completion, Vince to Wade. That could turn in to a dangerous formation, particularly if they run it no-huddle from time to time.

- No idea who I start at QB next week. None whatsoever. But Collins is going to need to improve a TON this week if he's going to be the guy. Otherwise, I might already be tempted to throw Vince to the wolves.

-Losing to Jets in week 1 certainly doesn't doom the season, but we're well on our way to another disappointment. I've said all along that I think you put Vince in when the team is 3 or 4 games under .500. I was hoping that would be week 9 or 10. If they play like they did yesterday, it will be week 4.

You could see this a little later when Young gets more of the offense down, or with scripted drives. He was very adept and comfortable running the no-huddle quite often at Texas. The Texas coaches studied with the Indy coaches on tempo, clock management, play selection & delivery, etc, & passed this on to the players. As I indicated in the Atlanta thread, when you combine the Zone Read Shotgun with some no-huddle drives, you can really put your foot up...err...on the defense's throat. Of course, any offensive play requires some blocking, sooo...

 

[diesel7982]

I remember when the Titans played with pride and thrived on adversity.

Titan players never signed with the Ravens, but in the last couple of years I think that it's a way to say F you to the organization.

I know that it's a business and all that stuff, but you have to take some pride in working with a core group for so long.

I am just curious as to how Eddie George feels about Rolle, Mason, and McNair playing for Baltimore. I don't know if he'd give a PC cliche or not. Anywhere but Baltimore and I wouldn't even wonder about it, but true Titan fans unstand and it hurts.

The Titans don't play how they use to and it has more to do with heart than talent. Jeff Fisher isn't the problem, the problem is that the guys that he turned into players can't be kept because the front office can't make the numbers work and they now have to bring in scrubs that end up starting. In the old days, Robaire Smith was a scrub, the weak link on D. Now he is considered a solid piece to the puzzle? Why did the front office force the Vince Young pick and at the same time clown his mentor and friend Steve McNair? Do you really think that if he develops he will stay after the way McNair was handled? How much does that treatment affect other players from coming to Tennessee?

When things were good in Tennessee, the only people that I talked to that could see the problems to come were Oilers fans. They knew the teams were great despite the owner/front office and not because of it. They were right.

I agree with most of what you said, but not the bolded part. Smith came on and was dominant in his contract year. Its why the Texans gave him a big contract with $10mil upfront. Obviously he hasnt played that well in Houston, but he was a stud in TEN.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

I like being right, but...I do wish my original post from two weeks ago hadn't been as accurate as it appears to have been.

You were pretty close WoMI, if anything I think you undersetimated the situation

 

[BigFishBigTeeth]

I remember when the Titans played with pride and thrived on adversity.Titan players never signed with the Ravens, but in the last couple of years I think that it's a way to say F you to the organization. I know that it's a business and all that stuff, but you have to take some pride in working with a core group for so long.I am just curious as to how Eddie George feels about Rolle, Mason, and McNair playing for Baltimore. I don't know if he'd give a PC cliche or not. Anywhere but Baltimore and I wouldn't even wonder about it, but true Titan fans unstand and it hurts.The Titans don't play how they use to and it has more to do with heart than talent. Jeff Fisher isn't the problem, the problem is that the guys that he turned into players can't be kept because the front office can't make the numbers work and they now have to bring in scrubs that end up starting. In the old days, Robaire Smith was a scrub, the weak link on D. Now he is considered a solid piece to the puzzle? Why did the front office force the Vince Young pick and at the same time clown his mentor and friend Steve McNair? Do you really think that if he develops he will stay after the way McNair was handled? How much does that treatment affect other players from coming to Tennessee?When things were good in Tennessee, the only people that I talked to that could see the problems to come were Oilers fans. They knew the teams were great despite the owner/front office and not because of it. They were right.

Regarding your point about the additional mentoring VY would have had with McNair still there.... Clearly that would have been a perfect scenario; however, I think it is highly likely that VY will shine brightly anyway.... The enormity of the performances he put on in several of the biggest games in UT historycannot not be overe blown. Only a particularly rare athlete could produce the level of poise, competitive fire and athleticism required to do what he did. If he avoids injury, I will be suprised if he doesnt turn out to be one of the greats....