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Tennis - Sinner accepts three month ban - won't miss Roland Garros (2 Viewers)

Mitchie said:
ShamrockPride said:
Think the women's match intrigues me more. Sinner is just such a runaway favorite at this point.
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Odds are about the same, Sinner -400, Sabalenka -350 on fanduel
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I'm less familiar with Pegulas game. And while I liked what I saw after she turned things around in the 2nd and 3rd sets, I didn't see enough to make me think she had enough to get by Saba.

That said, Saba really doesn't like US fans cheering her unforced errors for US players points. Her reaction to it and implosion cost her the title last year and almost caused her to slip vs Navarro (she rebounded well at the end of the 2nd set);I think Sabas head space might be Pegulas best weapon and chance.

Looks like saba has a 7-2 record vs Peg and last beat her a little more than a month ago.
 
Mitchie said:
El Floppo said:
Mitchie said:
Sabalenka is averaging the fastest forehand speed at the US Open, for both women and men😲
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Does that register the ball or racket speed?
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ETA, actually reading the article again I'm not so sure, maybe it is just the racket speed, phrasing is not clear.
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I saw that and I assumed ball speed. Which does seem kind of surprising though watching her play she is like a freaking howitzer just teeing off all the time. Pegula did a great job batting against it and could have won if saba made a few more errors.
 
Long Ball Larry said:
Mitchie said:
El Floppo said:
Mitchie said:
Sabalenka is averaging the fastest forehand speed at the US Open, for both women and men😲
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Does that register the ball or racket speed?
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ball

ETA, actually reading the article again I'm not so sure, maybe it is just the racket speed, phrasing is not clear.
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I saw that and I assumed ball speed. Which does seem kind of surprising though watching her play she is like a freaking howitzer just teeing off all the time. Pegula did a great job batting against it and could have won if saba made a few more errors.
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i've thought about this and yeah has to be ball speed, not even sure they could measure the racket speed. But a big part of why is that the men hit with a lot more spin so their power is going up and out to the court so the swinging up takes away from the power/speed, whereas women tend to hit flatter so their power is going much more just out to the court.
 
Master of Past and Present said:
For all the hype of Alcaraz being the heir to the Throne of the Big 3 it seems maybe we have a Big 2 now, Sinner with three and Alcaraz two major wins as they own the last five.
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Ever since Nadal won his last Grand Slam, the French in 2022, the Grand Slam Record is
Carlos Alcaraz 4 Grand Slams
Novak Djokovic 4 Grand Slams
Jannick Sinner 3 Grand Slams
No one else.

The list of Mens Grand Slam winners has been awfully thin for a long time.
Only Thiem and Medvedev have one outside the big names since 2016

If we add Andy Murray and Wawrinka (3 each) at the next tier to Djokovic, Nadal and Federer, the list of Grand Slam winners since the French in 2005 is short
Marin Cilic in 2010, Juan Martin Del Potro in 2009….thats it.

79 Grand Slams since the French in 2005.
Djokovic 24, Nadal 22, Federer 16, Alcaraz 4, Sinner, Murray and Wawrinka 3. Del Potro, Cilic, Thiem and Medvedev 1

Federer had won 4 before the French in 2005.

The US open has proven the drought breaker with all four of the single Grand Slam winners winning that one. Murray and Wawrinka had one of them as well.

Out of the last 20 Grand Slams at each event
Australian - 5 different winners (Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, Wawrinka and Sinner)
French - 5 different winners (Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Wawrinka and Alcaraz)
Wimbledon - 5 different winners (Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Alcaraz and Murray)
US Open - 11 different winners (Every grand slam winner since 2005)

As an aside the previous 16 Grand Slams (French 2001 to Australian Open 2005) had 12 different winners.
Only Federer with 4 and Lleyton Hewitt with 2 had more than 1 in this time period.
 
John Maddens Lunchbox said:
Master of Past and Present said:
For all the hype of Alcaraz being the heir to the Throne of the Big 3 it seems maybe we have a Big 2 now, Sinner with three and Alcaraz two major wins as they own the last five.
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Ever since Nadal won his last Grand Slam, the French in 2022, the Grand Slam Record is
Carlos Alcaraz 4 Grand Slams
Novak Djokovic 4 Grand Slams
Jannick Sinner 3 Grand Slams
No one else.

The list of Mens Grand Slam winners has been awfully thin for a long time.
Only Thiem and Medvedev have one outside the big names since 2016

If we add Andy Murray and Wawrinka (3 each) at the next tier to Djokovic, Nadal and Federer, the list of Grand Slam winners since the French in 2005 is short
Marin Cilic in 2010, Juan Martin Del Potro in 2009….thats it.

79 Grand Slams since the French in 2005.
Djokovic 24, Nadal 22, Federer 16, Alcaraz 4, Sinner, Murray and Wawrinka 3. Del Potro, Cilic, Thiem and Medvedev 1

Federer had won 4 before the French in 2005.

The US open has proven the drought breaker with all four of the single Grand Slam winners winning that one. Murray and Wawrinka had one of them as well.

Out of the last 20 Grand Slams at each event
Australian - 5 different winners (Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, Wawrinka and Sinner)
French - 5 different winners (Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Wawrinka and Alcaraz)
Wimbledon - 5 different winners (Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Alcaraz and Murray)
US Open - 11 different winners (Every grand slam winner since 2005)

As an aside the previous 16 Grand Slams (French 2001 to Australian Open 2005) had 12 different winners.
Only Federer with 4 and Lleyton Hewitt with 2 had more than 1 in this time period.
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Very true but 13 months ago it was one less than now as Sinner hadn't won and everybody pretty much was saying Alcaraz was going to own for the next decade and threaten passing the Big 3. Now Sinner has established himself and looks like he will have a lengthy reign at #1 and could own the hard courts. Hopefully it grows past these two as another emerges and another.
 
Master of Past and Present said:
John Maddens Lunchbox said:
Master of Past and Present said:
For all the hype of Alcaraz being the heir to the Throne of the Big 3 it seems maybe we have a Big 2 now, Sinner with three and Alcaraz two major wins as they own the last five.
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Ever since Nadal won his last Grand Slam, the French in 2022, the Grand Slam Record is
Carlos Alcaraz 4 Grand Slams
Novak Djokovic 4 Grand Slams
Jannick Sinner 3 Grand Slams
No one else.

The list of Mens Grand Slam winners has been awfully thin for a long time.
Only Thiem and Medvedev have one outside the big names since 2016

If we add Andy Murray and Wawrinka (3 each) at the next tier to Djokovic, Nadal and Federer, the list of Grand Slam winners since the French in 2005 is short
Marin Cilic in 2010, Juan Martin Del Potro in 2009….thats it.

79 Grand Slams since the French in 2005.
Djokovic 24, Nadal 22, Federer 16, Alcaraz 4, Sinner, Murray and Wawrinka 3. Del Potro, Cilic, Thiem and Medvedev 1

Federer had won 4 before the French in 2005.

The US open has proven the drought breaker with all four of the single Grand Slam winners winning that one. Murray and Wawrinka had one of them as well.

Out of the last 20 Grand Slams at each event
Australian - 5 different winners (Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, Wawrinka and Sinner)
French - 5 different winners (Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Wawrinka and Alcaraz)
Wimbledon - 5 different winners (Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Alcaraz and Murray)
US Open - 11 different winners (Every grand slam winner since 2005)

As an aside the previous 16 Grand Slams (French 2001 to Australian Open 2005) had 12 different winners.
Only Federer with 4 and Lleyton Hewitt with 2 had more than 1 in this time period.
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Very true but 13 months ago it was one less than now as Sinner hadn't won and everybody pretty much was saying Alcaraz was going to own for the next decade and threaten passing the Big 3. Now Sinner has established himself and looks like he will have a lengthy reign at #1 and could own the hard courts. Hopefully it grows past these two as another emerges and another.
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Thats a topic for my thread of where the next grand slam champion is coming from.
Sinner is breaking the mould that Champions have to have played in a Grand Slam final by the time they are 21.
He was 22 when he won the Australian in 2024.
Sinner needs one more slam to hit the 4 mark and be a champion in my eyes.

Need to find out which players are ascending and are under 21 for the next guy.
Took a long time for Alcaraz to arrive
 
Sinner accepts a three month ban. Won't miss the French, lose any titles or points. About the only negative is he will miss four Master 1000 tournaments that he won't be able to defend poits for from last year so maybe costs him the number 1 ranking before he's back. Won't defend SF at Indian Wells, Winner Miami, SF Monte-Carlo, QF Madrid. Also no tournament action will be interesting to see if it affects his prep for the French where he made SF last year.

Lots of players are weighing in and all seem to be ripping uneven rulings and penalties from infractions.
 
Not sure exactly how guilty he is, but clearly seems he's getting preferential treatment. I guess as the #1 player that's how these things go though.
 
I was watching the score feed... Which was amazing :mellow:

Bummed I couldn't watch live .. sounds like I missed something epic.

Coco vs Saba was a good match too. But up and down with some big errors mixed in with great tennis.

Pretty fantastic French open. Even floppinha seemed interested for the first time ever.
 
Played tennis in high school and one semester in college so I really enjoyed the sport. Watched so much tennis as a kid because my parents were addicted, couldn't wait for it to be over (Conners, Borg, McEnroe, Lendl, Newcombe, Becker, Natase era). Never really enjoyed it outside of Davis Cup. Matches were brutally long, always thought 3 sets was the sweet spot. Is there anyone here that was meh about tennis on TV in the past that now thinks it so much better now they enjoy watching?
 
BassNBrew said:
Played tennis in high school and one semester in college so I really enjoyed the sport. Watched so much tennis as a kid because my parents were addicted, couldn't wait for it to be over (Conners, Borg, McEnroe, Lendl, Newcombe, Becker, Natase era). Never really enjoyed it outside of Davis Cup. Matches were brutally long, always thought 3 sets was the sweet spot. Is there anyone here that was meh about tennis on TV in the past that now thinks it so much better now they enjoy watching?
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Tennis>>banana>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>baseball

Depends on the match and players for me. I'll take a rooting interest in this or that player, and certainly late in tourneys. but for the most part I don't need to watch it.
 
This might belong in the pet peeve thread...

We have DirectTV stream. Why do these silly companies not have the recording function dialed in and iron-clad with their unlimited space for sports recording already in 2025? Talk about frustrating...

I watched the first two sets live before I had to run down to the courts for my 9am doubles and 1030 singles hit until noon. I could hear quite a bit of chatter from the other players/courts about the match still going. Hummed to myself just to drown out most of the chatter and spoilers.

Walking home, I call the missus to either change the channel if the match is still on, or simply rewind it to the start of the 3rd set for me. She said the recording stopped right after I left

Luckily, she was already on it and recorded two episodes of "The Librarians."

That being said, one of the greatest matches ever. The ball striking pace, accuracy towards the lines, athleticism, and length of points at such a high level. Wow. It really was a coin flip that could have gone either way (up until the tiebreaker).

Alcaraz run away freight train in the 5th tiebreaker was insane.

I felt pretty bad during Sinner's acceptance speech... dude was gutted holding that runner-up serving platter.

I hope these two can give us a decade of these battles, being spoiled by the Big Three era.
 
Ted Stickles said:
This might belong in the pet peeve thread...

We have DirectTV stream. Why do these silly companies not have the recording function dialed in and iron-clad with their unlimited space for sports recording already in 2025? Talk about frustrating...

I watched the first two sets live before I had to run down to the courts for my 9am doubles and 1030 singles hit until noon. I could hear quite a bit of chatter from the other players/courts about the match still going. Hummed to myself just to drown out most of the chatter and spoilers.

Walking home, I call the missus to either change the channel if the match is still on, or simply rewind it to the start of the 3rd set for me. She said the recording stopped right after I left

Luckily, she was already on it and recorded two episodes of "The Librarians."

That being said, one of the greatest matches ever. The ball striking pace, accuracy towards the lines, athleticism, and length of points at such a high level. Wow. It really was a coin flip that could have gone either way (up until the tiebreaker).

Alcaraz run away freight train in the 5th tiebreaker was insane.

I felt pretty bad during Sinner's acceptance speech... dude was gutted holding that runner-up serving platter.

I hope these two can give us a decade of these battles, being spoiled by the Big Three era.
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Youtubetv is pretty much perfect with recording the whole sporting event no matter how long it goes.

The shotmaking really was amazing, sinner did have a few unforced errors as it went on due to fatigue presumably, but overall whoever won would have deserved it 200%. Sinner coming up with the strength to push it to 6-5 in the 5th after getting worn down was pretty amazing, but that seemed to be about the last bit he had in the tank.
 
Long Ball Larry said:
Ted Stickles said:
This might belong in the pet peeve thread...

We have DirectTV stream. Why do these silly companies not have the recording function dialed in and iron-clad with their unlimited space for sports recording already in 2025? Talk about frustrating...

I watched the first two sets live before I had to run down to the courts for my 9am doubles and 1030 singles hit until noon. I could hear quite a bit of chatter from the other players/courts about the match still going. Hummed to myself just to drown out most of the chatter and spoilers.

Walking home, I call the missus to either change the channel if the match is still on, or simply rewind it to the start of the 3rd set for me. She said the recording stopped right after I left

Luckily, she was already on it and recorded two episodes of "The Librarians."

That being said, one of the greatest matches ever. The ball striking pace, accuracy towards the lines, athleticism, and length of points at such a high level. Wow. It really was a coin flip that could have gone either way (up until the tiebreaker).

Alcaraz run away freight train in the 5th tiebreaker was insane.

I felt pretty bad during Sinner's acceptance speech... dude was gutted holding that runner-up serving platter.

I hope these two can give us a decade of these battles, being spoiled by the Big Three era.
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Youtubetv is pretty much perfect with recording the whole sporting event no matter how long it goes.

The shotmaking really was amazing, sinner did have a few unforced errors as it went on due to fatigue presumably, but overall whoever won would have deserved it 200%. Sinner coming up with the strength to push it to 6-5 in the 5th after getting worn down was pretty amazing, but that seemed to be about the last bit he had in the tank.
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I always extend the recording an extra 2 hours so I don't miss anything . Sucks having to record "The Librarians" but an easy work around and minor inconvenience. And yeah, amazing match. Wish I was able to watch the entire thing but that 5th set was something else :bow:
 
Totally agree with the recording thing. We're busting at the seams with AI on deck but have yet to get the simplest of ideas solved for millions of customers. Corporate America baby.

Tennis had no chance at any sort of encore to the Big 3. But somehow, and in such short time, these two are on course to do something similar. Wild. Both around 23 and the collision part of the course is exactly what each needs to make the other great. You could see it in Sinner in defeat.

Both handle themselves very well, beyond their age. Had great examples. Let's hope they stay healthy.
 
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BTW, that awful call by the linesman in the deciding set, which was pivotal at a minimum, and at worst cost Sinner a game - or even a Grand Slam possibly - is totally unacceptable. The chair umpire also F'd up by just sitting there, dumfounded.

ZERO reason for that to ever happen nowadays. Yes, I saw the 1 in a million time HawkEye had a glitch. I'll still take the computers over human eyeballs. Especially over a clueless umpire who sits there like they're supervising detention.

French Open (yes, I'm still calling it that) had better learn from this, finally, and join the other 3 Grand Slams. What a joke.
 
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Harry Frogfish said:
BTW, that awful call by the linesman in the deciding set, which was pivotal, at a minimum, and at worst cost a Sinner a game . . . or even a Grand Slam possibly, is totally unacceptable. The umpire also F'd up by doing nothing about it.

ZERO reason for that to ever happen nowadays. Yes, I saw the 1 in a million time HawkEye had a glitch. I'll still take the computer over the human eyeballs. And over a clueless umpire who sits there like they're in charge of detention.

French Open (yes, I'm still calling it that) had better learn from this, finally, and change. What a joke.
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completely agree...huge impact. It wasn't really close.
 
Harry Frogfish said:
BTW, that awful call by the linesman in the deciding set, which was pivotal, at a minimum, and at worst cost a Sinner a game . . . or even a Grand Slam possibly, is totally unacceptable. The umpire also F'd up by doing nothing about it.

ZERO reason for that to ever happen nowadays. Yes, I saw the 1 in a million time HawkEye had a glitch. I'll still take the computer over the human eyeballs. And over a clueless umpire who sits there like they're in charge of detention.

French Open (yes, I'm still calling it that) had better learn from this, finally, and change. What a joke.
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What else are we supposed to call it?
 
Long Ball Larry said:
Harry Frogfish said:
BTW, that awful call by the linesman in the deciding set, which was pivotal, at a minimum, and at worst cost a Sinner a game . . . or even a Grand Slam possibly, is totally unacceptable. The umpire also F'd up by doing nothing about it.

ZERO reason for that to ever happen nowadays. Yes, I saw the 1 in a million time HawkEye had a glitch. I'll still take the computer over the human eyeballs. And over a clueless umpire who sits there like they're in charge of detention.

French Open (yes, I'm still calling it that) had better learn from this, finally, and change. What a joke.
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What else are we supposed to call it?
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They're all about marketing it more as Roland Garros now I guess. I don't know, dig around.

I just started noticing it after watching Barkley do a little rant about it on TNT. He was refusing to go with this new name emphasis during a promo leading up to it. Ernie tried to reel him in a bit, mentioning something about their network deal or whatever but Chuck wasn't having it, which I enjoyed.

Then throughout these last couple of weeks I noticed as much.

Reminds me of the British Open dropping "British" and force-feeding The Open instead. When was that, like 1/4 century ago or so? Not sure either will ever stick.
 
Harry Frogfish said:
Long Ball Larry said:
Harry Frogfish said:
BTW, that awful call by the linesman in the deciding set, which was pivotal, at a minimum, and at worst cost a Sinner a game . . . or even a Grand Slam possibly, is totally unacceptable. The umpire also F'd up by doing nothing about it.

ZERO reason for that to ever happen nowadays. Yes, I saw the 1 in a million time HawkEye had a glitch. I'll still take the computer over the human eyeballs. And over a clueless umpire who sits there like they're in charge of detention.

French Open (yes, I'm still calling it that) had better learn from this, finally, and change. What a joke.
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What else are we supposed to call it?
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They're all about marketing it more as Roland Garros now I guess. I don't know, dig around.

I just started noticing it after watching Barkley do a little rant about it on TNT. He was refusing to go with this new name emphasis during a promo leading up to it. Ernie tried to reel him in a bit, mentioning something about their network deal or whatever but Chuck wasn't having it, which I enjoyed.

Then throughout these last couple of weeks I noticed as much.

Reminds me of the British Open dropping "British" and force-feeding The Open instead. When was that, like 1/4 century ago or so? Not sure either will ever stick.
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So strange. I wonder if they're trying to make it like Wimbledon... For whatever branding reason naming it the place. I hope to hell they don't call the US Open the NTC Open.
 
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So strange. I wonder if they're trying to make it like Wimbledon... For whatever branding reason naming it the place. I hope to hell they don't call the US Open the NTC Open.
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The 2025 US Open brought to you by Jardiance... really swell with a big story to tell.
 
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