it was a truck rented via the turo app in Texas, where it came from before doesn’t matterThis is a tragedy and hits home as it's my home town. Perpetrator has been named as Shamed Den Jabber. The truck come over the Mexican border a few days ago (WTF). Multiple police raids on suspected terrorist hideouts occurring now.
Prayers to all those impacted.
it’s new year’s day, I think most people aren’t running to the FFA to post today. Last nights food selection isn’t sitting well with me so a few more bathroom moments for me this morning or I wouldn’t be browsing here either.The lack of replies in this thread shows how desensitized most of us are to all of this I think. Just so sickening and sad. I am pretty anti- gun but clearly if someone is intent on destruction there’s only so much we can do. It’s scary how nowhere seems to be safe now…
This is a tragedy and hits home as it's my home town. Perpetrator has been named as Shamed Den Jabber. The truck come over the Mexican border a few days ago (WTF). Multiple police raids on suspected terrorist hideouts occurring now.
Prayers to all those impacted.
Or people are finally learning that SM pretty much sucks and to not jump to conclusions anymore. Maybe wishful thinking on my part.The lack of replies in this thread shows how desensitized most of us are to all of this I think. Just so sickening and sad. I am pretty anti- gun but clearly if someone is intent on destruction there’s only so much we can do. It’s scary how nowhere seems to be safe now…
I think it’s more than likely that they have too many resources now tied up with the attack to properly handle tonight. If they think there is a possibility of another attack then they will move the game to another location. safety of life is #1 over a college football game and postponing everything a few days if they have to move locations will take precedenceSugar Bowl has been postponed until Thursday night. Wonder if they are worried about or have Intel about another attack
Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
Amen BrotherIndoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is bring waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
That’s not gonna happen at all.They should move the game out of there. Not just postpone
You think a 10-year military vet was indoctrinated on a college campus? Based on what?Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around our country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
That's not what he said at all.You think a 10-year military vet was indoctrinated on a college campus? Based on what?Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around our country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
this part disturbs me....Why are we sitting on "terrorist hideouts?" I get it you cant just go raiding every house you think something funky is going on, but to act this quickly tells me that these locations must have been on the radar for some time and well known internally. How are we allowing hideouts like that to just exist.it was a truck rented via the turo app in Texas, where it came from before doesn’t matterThis is a tragedy and hits home as it's my home town. Perpetrator has been named as Shamed Den Jabber. The truck come over the Mexican border a few days ago (WTF). Multiple police raids on suspected terrorist hideouts occurring now.
Prayers to all those impacted.
I was wondering the same thing when I read that.this part disturbs me....Why are we sitting on "terrorist hideouts?" I get it you cant just go raiding every house you think something funky is going on, but to act this quickly tells me that these locations must have been on the radar for some time and well known internally. How are we allowing hideouts like that to just exist.it was a truck rented via the turo app in Texas, where it came from before doesn’t matterThis is a tragedy and hits home as it's my home town. Perpetrator has been named as Shamed Den Jabber. The truck come over the Mexican border a few days ago (WTF). Multiple police raids on suspected terrorist hideouts occurring now.
Prayers to all those impacted.
Dude…..I just even can’t.You think a 10-year military vet was indoctrinated on a college campus? Based on what?Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around our country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
Thank you yes. And now we see another example of what makes having any rational discussions here about anything like this topic almost impossible.That's not what he said at all.You think a 10-year military vet was indoctrinated on a college campus? Based on what?Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around our country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
But not the thread to argue... His point was indoctrination is the biggest threat and it's happening on college campuses, schools, government.....
Or lonely people latch on to online rabbit holes imo
I frequently think of the book “one second after” where the country sustains an EMP attack. I can’t help but think of the hordes of people who are searching for a way…I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
I'm naive to police logistics, but I was guessing they discovered a bunch of Intel from the driver- car, phone, house, etc and are acting immediately.this part disturbs me....Why are we sitting on "terrorist hideouts?" I get it you cant just go raiding every house you think something funky is going on, but to act this quickly tells me that these locations must have been on the radar for some time and well known internally. How are we allowing hideouts like that to just exist.it was a truck rented via the turo app in Texas, where it came from before doesn’t matterThis is a tragedy and hits home as it's my home town. Perpetrator has been named as Shamed Den Jabber. The truck come over the Mexican border a few days ago (WTF). Multiple police raids on suspected terrorist hideouts occurring now.
Prayers to all those impacted.
Could be he misread and made an honest mistake. I do that in here all the time.Thank you yes. And now we see another example of what makes having any rational discussions here about anything like this topic almost impossible.That's not what he said at all.You think a 10-year military vet was indoctrinated on a college campus? Based on what?Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around our country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
But not the thread to argue... His point was indoctrination is the biggest threat and it's happening on college campuses, schools, government.....
Or lonely people latch on to online rabbit holes imo
Movies, music, video games….I’ll stick to that. Because of posts like his.
Movies, music, video games….I’ll stick to that
Indoctrination is real.
Could have been too…..but my patience at my advanced age has gotten shorter lol.Could be he misread and made an honest mistake. I do that in here all the time.Thank you yes. And now we see another example of what makes having any rational discussions here about anything like this topic almost impossible.That's not what he said at all.You think a 10-year military vet was indoctrinated on a college campus? Based on what?Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around our country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
But not the thread to argue... His point was indoctrination is the biggest threat and it's happening on college campuses, schools, government.....
Or lonely people latch on to online rabbit holes imo
Movies, music, video games….I’ll stick to that. Because of posts like his.
Because I asked you what your comment was based on? I didn't know if you were relaying something you heard about the guy in this case or some general opinion you have. I was not following what you were saying, so I asked what it was based on. I didn't think that was an irrational question.Thank you yes. And now we see another example of what makes having any rational discussions here about anything like this topic almost impossible.That's not what he said at all.You think a 10-year military vet was indoctrinated on a college campus? Based on what?Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around our country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
But not the thread to argue... His point was indoctrination is the biggest threat and it's happening on college campuses, schools, government.....
Or lonely people latch on to online rabbit holes imo
Movies, music, video games….I’ll stick to that. Because of posts like his.
based on what I see on tv and movies, I assume it is part of a longer-term strategy to gather information and/or get more ironclad information in order to prosecute effectively. But I really have no ideaI was wondering the same thing when I read that.this part disturbs me....Why are we sitting on "terrorist hideouts?" I get it you cant just go raiding every house you think something funky is going on, but to act this quickly tells me that these locations must have been on the radar for some time and well known internally. How are we allowing hideouts like that to just exist.it was a truck rented via the turo app in Texas, where it came from before doesn’t matterThis is a tragedy and hits home as it's my home town. Perpetrator has been named as Shamed Den Jabber. The truck come over the Mexican border a few days ago (WTF). Multiple police raids on suspected terrorist hideouts occurring now.
Prayers to all those impacted.
As Bell already said... Youre asking a question about something the OP never said.Because I asked you what your comment was based on? I didn't know if you were relaying something you heard about the guy in this case or some general opinion you have. I was not following what you were saying, so I asked what it was based on. I didn't think that was an irrational question.Thank you yes. And now we see another example of what makes having any rational discussions here about anything like this topic almost impossible.That's not what he said at all.You think a 10-year military vet was indoctrinated on a college campus? Based on what?Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around our country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
But not the thread to argue... His point was indoctrination is the biggest threat and it's happening on college campuses, schools, government.....
Or lonely people latch on to online rabbit holes imo
Movies, music, video games….I’ll stick to that. Because of posts like his.
Hey my bad. Happy and a Healthy New Year to you.Because I asked you what your comment was based on? I didn't know if you were relaying something you heard about the guy in this case or some general opinion you have. I was not following what you were saying, so I asked what it was based on. I didn't think that was an irrational question.Thank you yes. And now we see another example of what makes having any rational discussions here about anything like this topic almost impossible.That's not what he said at all.You think a 10-year military vet was indoctrinated on a college campus? Based on what?Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around our country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
But not the thread to argue... His point was indoctrination is the biggest threat and it's happening on college campuses, schools, government.....
Or lonely people latch on to online rabbit holes imo
Movies, music, video games….I’ll stick to that. Because of posts like his.
There is a damn good documentary on Showtime/Paramount Plus called American Jihad.This was an old news link about 3 girls from Denver. Pbs/Frontline did a bunch of doc type stuff
![]()
State Department faces criticism in uphill social media war against Islamic State group
Three teenage girls from Denver were detained in Germany last weekend by American authorities under suspicion of joining the Islamic State. The militant group lures recruits worldwide with a sophisticated social media operation. Margaret Warner reports on how the U.S. State Department is...www.pbs.org
Edit: sorry off topic about the actual tragedy.....I was always very concerned with this type of stuff with my kids
The lack of replies in this thread shows how desensitized most of us are to all of this I think. Just so sickening and sad. I am pretty anti- gun but clearly if someone is intent on destruction there’s only so much we can do. It’s scary how nowhere seems to be safe now…
Thank you yes. And now we see another example of what makes having any rational discussions here about anything like this topic almost impossible.
Movies, music, video games….I’ll stick to that. Because of posts like his.
Was NYE festivities open to cars? Or did this person smash through something to get to these people?
I'm just trying to understand the bigger picture, not prove a point. Horrible either way.
The area he went thru was under some sort of “improvement construction” where the typical barriers were removed.Was NYE festivities open to cars? Or did this person smash through something to get to these people?
I'm just trying to understand the bigger picture, not prove a point. Horrible either way.
Absolutely. The recent female school shooter seemed to have been an active participant in online white supremacist/nazi communities. The internet makes extremist groups much more easily accessible and a lot of those groups have grown very savvy with recruiting/indoctrination.That's not what he said at all.You think a 10-year military vet was indoctrinated on a college campus? Based on what?Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around our country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
But not the thread to argue... His point was indoctrination is the biggest threat and it's happening on college campuses, schools, government.....
Or lonely people latch on to online rabbit holes imo
Eta: there was a special or documentary on how teens female/male slowly get turned online into beliefs they weren't brought up on and aligned with ISIS...they have "online operatives".... It was sad scary stuff tbh
"General statement of what's going on?" ok dude if you say soDude…..I just even can’t.You think a 10-year military vet was indoctrinated on a college campus? Based on what?Indoctrination.I'm listening to the press conference on Sirius XM.....three quick takeaways are that there WAS an ISIS flag on the back of the truck and ISIS "materiel" in the truck, he was a 10 year US military vet and a US citizen and authorities do NOT think he was working on this alone.
That is the biggest threat taking place on college campuses around our country, in our schools, in our own government.
I won’t make any further comments on that.
This is a horrible tragedy and we need to get control of what is actually going on In our country before it spirals to an even darker place.
We live free…..and you can’t have freedom for free. That is the price we all pay for living in the greatest country in the world. At the same time we need to realize this was in the making for a little while.
And more will come.
Sad sad day. Horrible to even have to talk about this.
Time to wake up as a country and understand the kind of war that is being waged by Islamic Jihadist’s
This evil wants to destroy us from within. Make no mistake.
Not him in particular.
But he was indoctrinated by Isis apparently. Kinda obvious already.
I made a general statement of what is going on. If you can’t see that…..then just keep carrying as you are.