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Terror in New Orleans (1 Viewer)

Tragic.
Why is there a question mark in the title though?
Because there is a difference between ISIS and a nutcase. When I posted it looked like an Islamic attack, but wanted to see confirmation before taking the ? off (and we've seen plenty of cases, both ways, where initial reporting was incorrect).

I had heard from family in NO that this was ISIS and that there were more people and more attacks imminent. And that SWAT was in the process of locating and taking down these cells. It's looking more and more like it, so the removal is now appropriate.
 
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The lack of replies in this thread shows how desensitized most of us are to all of this I think. Just so sickening and sad. I am pretty anti- gun but clearly if someone is intent on destruction there’s only so much we can do. It’s scary how nowhere seems to be safe now…


Why Bother J will have this bad boy locked down in no time.






Thank you yes. And now we see another example of what makes having any rational discussions here about anything like this topic almost impossible.

Movies, music, video games….I’ll stick to that. Because of posts like his.

:confused: I've been posting in this thread.

If it goes off the rails and gets locked is up to you folks.
 

:confused: I've been posting in this thread.

If it goes off the rails and gets locked is up to you folks.
I hope not. I was back there last weekend to watch Saints and Raiders. Great weekend (Saints notwithstanding). NO is the home of laissez faire and it is tremendously sad to see bad actors take advantage of this.


Heard that NO has bollards but that there were several missing as they were undergoing repair and they were just using orange cones.

From this link: https://www.wapt.com/article/mississippians-in-new-orleans-say-attack-sets-somber-tone/63316742

Carson said his wife noticed metal bollards were not in place on Bourbon Street as crowds gathered for the Sugar Bowl Parade. New Orleans officials said the barriers had been removed to be renovated for the Super Bowl.
Yeah, the NOPD isn't known for its competence. Missing barriers is a big mistake. Usually Bourbon is pedestrian only - it's opened up during part of the day (slow times) for deliveries, etc.
 

:confused: I've been posting in this thread.

If it goes off the rails and gets locked is up to you folks.
I hope not. I was back there last weekend to watch Saints and Raiders. Great weekend (Saints notwithstanding). NO is the home of laissez faire and it is tremendously sad to see bad actors take advantage of this.

Heard that NO has bollards but that there were several missing as they were undergoing repair and they were just using orange cones.

From this link: https://www.wapt.com/article/mississippians-in-new-orleans-say-attack-sets-somber-tone/63316742

Carson said his wife noticed metal bollards were not in place on Bourbon Street as crowds gathered for the Sugar Bowl Parade. New Orleans officials said the barriers had been removed to be renovated for the Super Bowl.
Yeah, the NOPD isn't known for its competence. Missing barriers is a big mistake. Usually Bourbon is pedestrian only - it's opened up during part of the day (slow times) for deliveries, etc.
Huge gaffe…..just huge. Incoming litigation for the victims families vs the city. And rightfully so.

Gross negligence.
 
Scary stuff. Makes me think of that old 80s clip of Yuri, the ex Russian kgb, who talked about how to demoralize our great nation over a 20 years period. Link below. This idea of imbedded terror cells is just so difficult to handle from a law enforcement standpoint. We will find out more information specifically about today, but my first question is was this an American citizen turned terror person or the start of a terror cell dropped in decades ago.

 

:confused: I've been posting in this thread.

If it goes off the rails and gets locked is up to you folks.
I hope not. I was back there last weekend to watch Saints and Raiders. Great weekend (Saints notwithstanding). NO is the home of laissez faire and it is tremendously sad to see bad actors take advantage of this.

Heard that NO has bollards but that there were several missing as they were undergoing repair and they were just using orange cones.

From this link: https://www.wapt.com/article/mississippians-in-new-orleans-say-attack-sets-somber-tone/63316742

Carson said his wife noticed metal bollards were not in place on Bourbon Street as crowds gathered for the Sugar Bowl Parade. New Orleans officials said the barriers had been removed to be renovated for the Super Bowl.
Yeah, the NOPD isn't known for its competence. Missing barriers is a big mistake. Usually Bourbon is pedestrian only - it's opened up during part of the day (slow times) for deliveries, etc.
Huge gaffe…..just huge. Incoming litigation for the victims families vs the city. And rightfully so.

Gross negligence.
they are renovating getting ready for the super bowl, supposedly there should have been cop cars parked there in the bollards place. It’s possible he swerved around the car, lots of information still needs to come out
 

:confused: I've been posting in this thread.

If it goes off the rails and gets locked is up to you folks.
I hope not. I was back there last weekend to watch Saints and Raiders. Great weekend (Saints notwithstanding). NO is the home of laissez faire and it is tremendously sad to see bad actors take advantage of this.

Heard that NO has bollards but that there were several missing as they were undergoing repair and they were just using orange cones.

From this link: https://www.wapt.com/article/mississippians-in-new-orleans-say-attack-sets-somber-tone/63316742

Carson said his wife noticed metal bollards were not in place on Bourbon Street as crowds gathered for the Sugar Bowl Parade. New Orleans officials said the barriers had been removed to be renovated for the Super Bowl.
Yeah, the NOPD isn't known for its competence. Missing barriers is a big mistake. Usually Bourbon is pedestrian only - it's opened up during part of the day (slow times) for deliveries, etc.
Huge gaffe…..just huge. Incoming litigation for the victims families vs the city. And rightfully so.

Gross negligence.
they are renovating getting ready for the super bowl, supposedly there should have been cop cars parked there in the bollards place. It’s possible he swerved around the car, lots of information still needs to come out
Just saw the video. That's what he did, went around the parked cop car and onto the sidewalk
 
Ford F50 and the Las Vegas Cybertruck were both rented from Turo. What are the odds?
connected,-same terror group?
Is it definitive that the Tesla was terror? I've seen that they're "investigating" that, not that it is.
Last I read they *think so but still not confirmed
I just scanned a bunch of outlets... "Investigating as potential". Doesn't read as "think so" to me- more possibly maybe, so we're investigating.

Person dead inside... Which is odd for a more standard car fire where there's time to get yourself out. But.. if terror, why at the valet lot and not the front entrance? Or do they mean to say the valet stand at the main entrance?
 
Ford F50 and the Las Vegas Cybertruck were both rented from Turo. What are the odds?
connected,-same terror group?
Is it definitive that the Tesla was terror? I've seen that they're "investigating" that, not that it is.
Last I read they *think so but still not confirmed
I just scanned a bunch of outlets... "Investigating as potential". Doesn't read as "think so" to me- more possibly maybe, so we're investigating.

Person dead inside... Which is odd for a more standard car fire where there's time to get yourself out. But.. if terror, why at the valet lot and not the front entrance? Or do they mean to say the valet stand at the main entrance?
Two sources close to the investigation tell the 8 News Now Investigators that they believe the explosion was an intentional act and not an accident. Video shows the vehicle parked next to the hotel’s front doors as it explodes into flames.


Idk
 
Saw on the news last night that the Times Square NY crowd was expected to be around a million people. Said to my wife how I thought big New Years Eve crowds might be on terrorists radar and I wouldn't be shocked if there was an attack somewhere.

Woke up today and I was shocked. I can't even imagine how horrible that scene was.
 
Ford F50 and the Las Vegas Cybertruck were both rented from Turo. What are the odds?
connected,-same terror group?
Is it definitive that the Tesla was terror? I've seen that they're "investigating" that, not that it is.
Last I read they *think so but still not confirmed
I just scanned a bunch of outlets... "Investigating as potential". Doesn't read as "think so" to me- more possibly maybe, so we're investigating.

Person dead inside... Which is odd for a more standard car fire where there's time to get yourself out. But.. if terror, why at the valet lot and not the front entrance? Or do they mean to say the valet stand at the main entrance?
Two sources close to the investigation tell the 8 News Now Investigators that they believe the explosion was an intentional act and not an accident. Video shows the vehicle parked next to the hotel’s front doors as it explodes into flames.


Idk
Not sure if it was suicide or it went off before intended.
 
Video of suspect from a few years ago:

How did this guy get indoctrinated so quickly? Seems totally normal. Burn the internet down now! Yes, I’m fully aware of the irony in what I’m saying.
He didn't make it as an agent and was living in a trailer park. Two divorces. Financial distress is as much the root of terrorism as anything.

 
Police at press conference said they didn't anticipate that someone could just drive up onto sidewalk. Didn't sound to me like the bollards would have prevented it either. Which just seems too insane to be true. Really hoping I misheard or misunderstood.
 
From CNN 15 mins ago... Up to 15 dead

At least 15 people were killed and dozens injured when a driver rammed a pickup truck into a crowd during New Year’s celebrations on Bourbon Street in New Orleans early on Wednesday morning. The FBI is investigating it as an “act of terrorism.”

• The FBI has identified the suspect as a 42-year-old Texas man and Army veteran. The FBI said the suspect, who was killed in a firefight with officers, had an ISIS flag in the vehicle at the time of the attack. The FBI also said it is investigating potential associations with terrorist organizations.

• Multiple officials said the suspect made a series of video recordings before Wednesday’s attack where he said he joined ISIS.

The suspect in New Orleans attack made a series of video recordings before Wednesday morning that law enforcement is currently reviewing, according to multiple officials briefed on the investigation.

The recordings appear to have been made while driving at night. The suspect is not visible because it is dark, but authorities believe the recordings were made as he drove from Texas to Louisiana, although the exact timing is not yet clear.

In the recordings the suspect makes reference to his divorce and how he had at first planned to gather his family for a “celebration” with the intention of killing them, two officials who had been briefed on the material in the recordings said. The suspect also talked about how he changed his plans and said that he joined ISIS. He referenced several dreams that he had about why he should be joining ISIS.
 
Police at press conference said they didn't anticipate that someone could just drive up onto sidewalk. Didn't sound to me like the bollards would have prevented it either. Which just seems too insane to be true. Really hoping I misheard or misunderstood.
They had a weird attitude about it, like "what could we do....who could predict someone would go on the sidewalk" wtf
 
Press conference on the cybertruck explosion.

Yea that was definitely planned. Loaded with explosives.
Well, I think explosives is overstating it. They were fireworks. I would agree it appears preplanned.
Several gas cans found inside the rear bed of the truck.Thats what I meant by explosives
Interesting. Hadn't heard that. These different news outlets seem to be all over the map.
 
Press conference on the cybertruck explosion.

Yea that was definitely planned. Loaded with explosives.
Well, I think explosives is overstating it. They were fireworks. I would agree it appears preplanned.
Several gas cans found inside the rear bed of the truck.Thats what I meant by explosives
Interesting. Hadn't heard that. These different news outlets seem to be all over the map.
All in the rush to be first reporting it…
 
Press conference on the cybertruck explosion.

Yea that was definitely planned. Loaded with explosives.
Well, I think explosives is overstating it. They were fireworks. I would agree it appears preplanned.
Several gas cans found inside the rear bed of the truck.Thats what I meant by explosives
Interesting. Hadn't heard that. These different news outlets seem to be all over the map.
Press conference was on CNN. Actually was one of the best, most professional and informative ones I’ve seen in a long long time in these types of situations. They showed video of the remnants of the vehicle post-explosion.
 
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I was at the huge Thanksgiving Day Parade in Detroit and all I was thinking about was someone driving a vehicle through the crowd. Then this happens.

Sad to think that was even on my mind but that is the world we live in now.
I get that the news is at everyones fingertips. But it's not new. 'Terrorist' attacks in various ways have happened for all time. From 1850s bombing in France, to 1910 bombings that killed 100+ in Los Angeles, to 1946 bombings in hotels in Jerusalem. to gunpowder plots in 1605, to pirates in the mediterranean thousands of years before that. What is defined as terrorism is a bit loose historically, but it's nothing new and is often defined by the winners. Like, the Boston Tea Party is terrorism. But we won (and nobody died) , so it's an act of revolution.
 
One really couldn't imagine a stranger cast of characters from the New Orleans press conferences. From the FBI spokesperson who struggles with English to Sen. Kennedy's need to push past her to get to the microphone to Granny Clampett in the role of the police chief
 
One really couldn't imagine a stranger cast of characters from the New Orleans press conferences. From the FBI spokesperson who struggles with English to Sen. Kennedy's need to push past her to get to the microphone to Granny Clampett in the role of the police chief
Yea, the Vegas PC was 180 degrees at the other end of the spectrum with regards to professionalism and information
 
In the recordings the suspect makes reference to his divorce and how he had at first planned to gather his family for a “celebration” with the intention of killing them, two officials who had been briefed on the material in the recordings said. The suspect also talked about how he changed his plans and said that he joined ISIS. He referenced several dreams that he had about why he should be joining ISIS.

This now sounds more crazy person than terrorist.
 
My 2 daughters and 20 friends from SF and LA rented an Airbnb mansion about 40 minutes from the French Quarter. Their NYE plans included spending time on Bourbon Street. When I woke up this morning at 9 a.m. EST and saw the news, I immediately tried to contact them and others in their group. I received no response initially, which was worrying. I thought of it as the lottery in reverse—what are the odds they were at that location at 3:15 a.m.? The news mentioned mostly locals were injured, but I still couldn’t shake the anxiety.

I also noticed early tweets about the perpetrator allegedly coming from the border, as reported by Newsmax, Fox News, and others, which turned out to be false. This serves as a reminder of the importance of following multiple news sources. It’s also why I regret seeing many good people leaving platforms like X (Twitter), which offer community notes and diverse viewpoints, despite the polarizing views about Elon Musk.

Finally, at 9:30 a.m., my oldest daughter texted to say everyone was okay. She mentioned they were on Bourbon Street when the incident happened, but the chaos of NYE meant they didn’t realize what had occurred until another friend in the group texted her. She told me she plans to be more cautious in public spaces, though she & some in their group are still going on a ghost tour tonight. Life, as they say, goes on.

Currently, I’m on Ocean Drive in Miami Beach, where NYE preparations were robust. The street was closed for 10 blocks last night, with 3-foot-tall portable traffic barriers and police or security at every entrance. Miami Beach has clearly learned from challenges during spring break. By next week, I expect Ocean Drive will reopen to limited traffic as usual.
 
Finally, at 9:30 a.m., my oldest daughter texted to say everyone was okay. She mentioned they were on Bourbon Street when the incident happened, but the chaos of NYE meant they didn’t realize what had occurred until another friend in the group texted her. She told me she plans to be more cautious in public spaces, though she & some in their group are still going on a ghost tour tonight. Life, as they say, goes on.

😌 <------- Relieved emoji.
 
Finally, at 9:30 a.m., my oldest daughter texted to say everyone was okay. She mentioned they were on Bourbon Street when the incident happened, but the chaos of NYE meant they didn’t realize what had occurred until another friend in the group texted her. She told me she plans to be more cautious in public spaces, though she & some in their group are still going on a ghost tour tonight. Life, as they say, goes on.

😌 <------- Relieved emoji.
Very grateful that my kids and their friends are OK. I'll hug them a little tighter when I see them again.

So sad to hear some of the stories of those who didn't make it.
 
Finally, at 9:30 a.m., my oldest daughter texted to say everyone was okay. She mentioned they were on Bourbon Street when the incident happened, but the chaos of NYE meant they didn’t realize what had occurred until another friend in the group texted her. She told me she plans to be more cautious in public spaces, though she & some in their group are still going on a ghost tour tonight. Life, as they say, goes on.

😌 <------- Relieved emoji.
Very grateful that my kids and their friends are OK. I'll hug them a little tighter when I see them again.

So sad to hear some of the stories of those who didn't make it.
Must have been nerve racking. I’d have been a mess.
 
From the FBI spokesperson who struggles with English
Seriously?
Yeah I get questioning what she said about whether it was or wasn’t a terror attack but she spoke perfectly clear English. This woman seems to be getting treated like garbage online by a bunch of bots and trolls.
Explosive devices (plural) was?

I forgot to mention the Governor who seems to be right out of the cast of Green Acres
 
This is a tragedy and hits home as it's my home town. Perpetrator has been named as Shamsud Din Jabbar. The truck come over the Mexican border a few days ago (WTF). Multiple police raids on suspected terrorist hideouts occurring now.
I did a google internet search over the last 24 hours for "raids on suspected terrorist hideouts occurring now" and guess what? The top result is this topic.
https://ibb.co/4JqCbnn
Making the FFA leader for a day in misinformation.

I also did a similar search for "raids on suspected terrorist hideouts" and this topic is 2nd (behind a topic about Pakistan on another site).
https://ibb.co/BsbmVt4
 

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