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Tesla P85D Insane Mode (1 Viewer)

I have always thought this was stupid and scaredy-cat-ish (New technical term)

Dealers sue to block Tesla sales in MissouriState's auto dealer association wants Missouri's lone Tesla store banned.

The Missouri auto dealer cartel is on the move, trying to prevent citizens of that state from being able to buy a Model S sedan or (when it finally shows up) a Model X crossover.

Automotive News reports that the Missouri Automobile Dealers Association filed a suit late last week accusing the state's Department of Revenue of violating Missouri law by allowing Tesla to sell its cars directly to customers. Shots fired!

The Missouri dealer group claims that, by granting Tesla Motors a license to sell vehicles at its University City location, the Department of Revenue violated state statute. The suit seeks to revoke the license given to that Tesla store (so far, the state's only Tesla sales facility), and prevent any further licenses from being granted to the electric carmaker. The revenue department has stated it does not comment on pending litigation.

It's not the first battle against Tesla the state has seen: Automotive News reported in May of 2014 that an anti-Tesla addendum to a bill regarding all-terrain vehicles was struck down.

In defense of its stomping and yelling, the Missouri Automobile Dealers Association said, basically, things are the way they are now because that's the way they've always been. From the lawsuit:

"For many years, new motor vehicles have been sold in Missouri using a tried-and-true structure: manufacturers do not sell cars themselves, but do so through a network of licensed dealers. This structure of separate roles for manufacturers and dealers is established by statute and reflects wise public policy."

The electric carmaker, naturally, sees things differently. "Missouri law is very straightforward in that it prohibits manufacturers that use independent franchisees from competing directly against them,"Diarmuid O'Connell, Tesla's vice president of corporate and business development, said in a statement. "This has nothing to do with Tesla, which has never used independent franchisees."

If the state dealer cartel's action is successful, it will put Missouri in the company of Arizona, New Jersey, Texas, and Michigan, the last of which passed a similarly crony-powered bill that was backed by that scrappy young startup, General Motors, and won those states top billing on the Information Technology & Innovation Foundation's prestigious Luddite Awards.

In case you haven't inferred our stance by this point, here it is: The crony capitalism that enables dealership syndicates to strong-arm protectionist legislation into a state's law books is self-serving corruption that hurts consumers and hinders the market. If carmakers want to compete with Tesla, they should do it by making desirable vehicles that people want to buy. And if dealers are afraid that a new sales model will steal their lunch, they should seek to change their tactics, not their state laws.

At least as far as we can tell, that's how the market is supposed to work in the first place.
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Now I really want one of these...that's honestly the most overlooked thing about electric engines. The power is instant, and fully available, unlike gas engines, that don't develop peak power until a certain RPM.

 
When that girl dropped her phone it practically stuck to the seat. I want this car.

 
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I'm still in love with my Infiniti and will drive her until she can't drive no more. But when it's time to move on, I'm absolutely looking hard at a Tesla. Can I get a used one? I know nothing about 'em other than I want to accelerate like that one day.

 
I sat in one of these last weekend. Great looking car. If it were not for the price tag i would definately think about it.

 
Surgeon in Midland has a nice collection of cars... had never asked me to take a ride in one before this one.

I thought we had been rear ended. Scared the crap out of me. :lmao:

eta - The dash/controls/front of the inside is freaking sweet looking.

 
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General Malaise said:
Mr. Ected said:
General Malaise said:
El Floppo said:
General Malaise said:
Wow. Want!
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you'll have to wait for the mini-bus version, party of five.
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:lmao:

Daddy gets to keep his sports car. It's in the agreement.
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The Model X is going to be a crossover with seating for seven. Out in 2016.
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I imagine the first digit in the price tag is a "$1" and I'm scared to know the rest.
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Part of the huge prices is the fact that they keep adding features to the vehicle, driving the price up! The other is supply and demand; as they get into better production, the prices should level off if not go down!

Wishful thinking, at least!!!

 
My neighbor got one of these last week. He got rid of his AMG Benz for it.

Even at $100k, it's actually a good deal compared to the competitive cars from BMW, Audi, Benz

Acceleration of a McLaren in a four door.

 
TheIronSheik said:
Joe T said:
TheIronSheik said:
LINK

Language is NSFW, but this is hysterical. My favorite was the two kids. :lol:
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So its just a bunch of recordings of peoples reactions?

:thumbdown:
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:confused:
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I felt like I was watching David Blaine's street magic, but the only video shots were of the crowds reactions. I didn't get to see any of the magic tricks.

You could make a spoof video of this in an '82 Yugo just by filming a bunch of people's over reactions when hitting the accelerator.

"OMG this Yugo is so fast, please stop now!"

 
mquinnjr said:
Well, if I hit the lottery, I know what car I'm getting.

Smell ya later, Germany!
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A Rolls Royce Phantom?

unless you're talking about a small lottery, I assume you'd buying something nicer than a 75K car if you had 100+million

 
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Wow, I want one of these. Maybe I can get my good buddy Chet to hook me up with one, and we can go drag race sometime.

 
My name is Brooks and YOU are in the Cash Cab! The way this works is I'll ask you a series of questions for cash until we reach your destination. So what do you say, do you want to play?

*Insane button*

And here we are, thanks for playing, get out!

 
I can't even imagine what "insane" mode does to the battery draw...What's the normal range? 250 miles or so? I'd imagine that a few of these 0-60 jaunts at full power probably are worth 25 miles of power.

 
Dentist said:
mquinnjr said:
Well, if I hit the lottery, I know what car I'm getting.

Smell ya later, Germany!
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A Rolls Royce Phantom?

unless you're talking about a small lottery, I assume you'd buying something nicer than a 75K car if you had 100+million
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Why? Honestly, I think it would be a hassle to drive a super expensive supercar. You could drive something like this as your daily driver and never have to worry about driving it in snow, trying to drive up an incline, go over a speed bump, parking, on and on.

 
GroveDiesel said:
Dentist said:
mquinnjr said:
Well, if I hit the lottery, I know what car I'm getting.

Smell ya later, Germany!
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A Rolls Royce Phantom?

unless you're talking about a small lottery, I assume you'd buying something nicer than a 75K car if you had 100+million
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Why? Honestly, I think it would be a hassle to drive a super expensive supercar. You could drive something like this as your daily driver and never have to worry about driving it in snow, trying to drive up an incline, go over a speed bump, parking, on and on.
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Me? Drive? after I win that lottery I'll have a driver. That's his problem. And I most certainly am not going to have to worry about snow or inclines in Barbados or Turks and Caicos

 
GroveDiesel said:
Dentist said:
mquinnjr said:
Well, if I hit the lottery, I know what car I'm getting.

Smell ya later, Germany!
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A Rolls Royce Phantom?

unless you're talking about a small lottery, I assume you'd buying something nicer than a 75K car if you had 100+million
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Why? Honestly, I think it would be a hassle to drive a super expensive supercar. You could drive something like this as your daily driver and never have to worry about driving it in snow, trying to drive up an incline, go over a speed bump, parking, on and on.
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or getting marks on it.... My dad doesn't drive his nice sports cars much because of this alone. If he must park, get ready to walk a mile. If there's a scratch found, run!

 
I'm surprised they don't have a 2 door like the Infiniti coupes. You think it would play into the market that they would be aiming for (semi-rich guy who loves cars, but can't afford a Porsche).

 
Tesla Motors Inc P85D Vs. 2016 Ford GT: Who’d Win In A Drag Race?

Tesla’s new Model S P85D has received a new software update to reduce its acceleration time to 3.1 seconds, making us question whether the EV can take on the 2016 Ford GT

Tesla isn’t a brand name that is synonymous with supercars that would leave your hair tousled after taking one out for a spin. The Californian automaker is known more for its energy-efficient electric vehicles. But late last year, Tesla Motors Inc (NASDAQ:TSLA) changed all that with its new high-performance Model S P85D (even the name interestingly spells out “speed” in a rather roundabout manner).

The P85D, essentially an upgraded Model S, touts acceleration as its most impressive feature and can hit 0-60 mph in just 3.2 seconds – as opposed to its predecessor’s 4.2 seconds – thanks to its dual-motor. The car can pick up about 619 horsepower and packs a reported 864 pounds of torque at the wheels. This combination makes the impressive vehicle accelerate faster than most normal fuel cars.

Indeed, to boast of its newfound super acceleration capabilities, videos have been popping up all over the Internet where the P85D takes on established industry names such as Ferrari and Lamborghini. Against the Ferrari 550 and the Lamborghini Aventador, the car has more than held its own. So who should its next competitor be?

Well, how about Ford Motor Company (NYSE:F)? The 2016 Ford GT model, unveiled at this year’s Detroit Auto Show, is likely to use a 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6 engine to provide horsepower in excess of 600. This is also expected to reduce the car’s acceleration time, allowing it to go from 0-60 mph in under 3 seconds. The exact time has not been revealed given that the car has yet to be revealed, but it’s scheduled to run the 24-hour circuit on Le Mans. Its main rivals are the likes of Chevrolet Corvette C7.R by General Motors Company (NYSE:GM) and Ferrari 458 Italia FT2.

Despite that, the 2016 Ford GT is likely to fall short of the Tesla Model S P85D in terms of acceleration. Granted, the Ford vehicle’s top speed is in excess of 200 mph, while Tesla’s new vehicle tops out at 155 mph after an upgrade. That being said, a drag race requires the maximum power to be available in the first few seconds, and the race could get interesting.

In a video of a race between the high-spec Tesla P85D and a Lamborghini Aventador that took place last month, the Tesla was seen as the quicker one off the blocks; however, it couldn’t hold the lead, as the Lambo edged past it after a few seconds once it got hold of the full engine power. In a longer race, the speedier Ford GT, which was built for longer distances and pure racing purposes, will inevitably edge out Tesla’s super-fast EV.

The P85SD receives an extra boost thanks to CEO Elon Musk’s latest update, which will allow the car to shave an extra 0.1 seconds off its acceleration time. The update will, rather impressively, be carried out via software adjustments that will be wirelessly transmitted to the vehicles pretty soon. This is not the first time Tesla has rolled out updates wirelessly; back in 2012, key features such as an energy-saving sleep mode were added, as well as hill start assist.

The new updated version will mean that Tesla’s new acceleration time will stand at an impressive 0-60 mph in 3.1 seconds. While we expect the race to be closer than a race between a sports car and an (albeit speedy) EV should be, it’s likely that the Ford GT would avoid the same fate that Ferrari suffered at the hands of Tesla’s P85D Model S. However, with the exact figures yet to be released, the game may yet be on. Who knows – another video might just surface that actually pits the two models against each other.
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http://www.bidnessetc.com/33720-tesla-motors-inc-p85d-vs-2016-ford-gt-whod-win-in-a-drag-race/

 
Tesla S P85D vs Lamborghini Aventador

Video

seeing the dash / rpm on the Lamborghini is pretty sick

 
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Mr. Ected said:
TheIronSheik said:
Mr. Ected said:
Wanna drool? Intro of Model X - pricings roughly similar to Model S - 60s to 100.

Two words for the back seat. Falcon-wing Doors
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Not trying to be a Debbie downer, but I'm guessing it's pretty hard for kids in the back seat to close those doors.
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They might be motorized, like the sliding doors of a minivan. Push a button on the car or on the key fob, and boom.
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CurlyNight said:
Mr. Ected said:
Wanna drool? Intro of Model X - pricings roughly similar to Model S - 60s to 100.

Two words for the back seat. Falcon-wing Doors
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I want to be a test driver for Tesla. I'd never get bored..
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Sheik, check out the second video, motorized rear doors.

 
TSLA announcements today:

- New 90 kWh battery for Model S & Model X

- new Ludicrous Mode for P90D improves 0-60 time to 2.8 seconds (1.1 G)

- new 85D orders can upgrade to 90D for $3K, 5% greater range (285 miles); existing 85D can retrofit for $5K plus labor

- new base S70 offered with single motor & $5K lower price (essentially the same price as the S60 that was discontinued 3-1/2 months ago)

 
Mr. Ected said:
I have always thought this was stupid and scaredy-cat-ish (New technical term)

Dealers sue to block Tesla sales in Missouri

State's auto dealer association wants Missouri's lone Tesla store banned.

The Missouri auto dealer cartel is on the move, trying to prevent citizens of that state from being able to buy a Model S sedan or (when it finally shows up) a Model X crossover.

Automotive News reports that the Missouri Automobile Dealers Association filed a suit late last week accusing the state's Department of Revenue of violating Missouri law by allowing Tesla to sell its cars directly to customers. Shots fired!

The Missouri dealer group claims that, by granting Tesla Motors a license to sell vehicles at its University City location, the Department of Revenue violated state statute. The suit seeks to revoke the license given to that Tesla store (so far, the state's only Tesla sales facility), and prevent any further licenses from being granted to the electric carmaker. The revenue department has stated it does not comment on pending litigation.

It's not the first battle against Tesla the state has seen: Automotive News reported in May of 2014 that an anti-Tesla addendum to a bill regarding all-terrain vehicles was struck down.

In defense of its stomping and yelling, the Missouri Automobile Dealers Association said, basically, things are the way they are now because that's the way they've always been. From the lawsuit:

"For many years, new motor vehicles have been sold in Missouri using a tried-and-true structure: manufacturers do not sell cars themselves, but do so through a network of licensed dealers. This structure of separate roles for manufacturers and dealers is established by statute and reflects wise public policy."

The electric carmaker, naturally, sees things differently. "Missouri law is very straightforward in that it prohibits manufacturers that use independent franchisees from competing directly against them,"Diarmuid O'Connell, Tesla's vice president of corporate and business development, said in a statement. "This has nothing to do with Tesla, which has never used independent franchisees."

If the state dealer cartel's action is successful, it will put Missouri in the company of Arizona, New Jersey, Texas, and Michigan, the last of which passed a similarly crony-powered bill that was backed by that scrappy young startup, General Motors, and won those states top billing on the Information Technology & Innovation Foundation's prestigious Luddite Awards.

In case you haven't inferred our stance by this point, here it is: The crony capitalism that enables dealership syndicates to strong-arm protectionist legislation into a state's law books is self-serving corruption that hurts consumers and hinders the market. If carmakers want to compete with Tesla, they should do it by making desirable vehicles that people want to buy. And if dealers are afraid that a new sales model will steal their lunch, they should seek to change their tactics, not their state laws.

At least as far as we can tell, that's how the market is supposed to work in the first place.
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FTC to states: Quit banning direct-to-consumer car sales

The usually-staid FTC comes right out swinging in the first sentences. "A fundamental principle of competition is that consumers – not regulation – should determine what they buy and how they buy it," the commission states.

Almost universally, those state laws were put into place through the political clout and largesse of state dealership associations. It's a classic case of protectionism, and a pretty blatant one at that.

While the conversation around state car sales laws has been largely driven by Tesla Motors' many fights to overturn these laws, the FTC is careful to point out that it's not just coming to bat for Elon Musk's electric carmaker. "FTC staff supports the movement to allow for direct sales to consumers—not only Tesla or Elio, but for any company that decides to use that business model to distribute its products," the blog post reads. "Blanket prohibitions on direct manufacturer sales to consumers are an anomaly within the larger economy."

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Also, I believe NJ has lifted its ban on direct sales.

 
Very good friend of mine is leasing an S. Has taken me on a few rides on Insane mode. Sooooo cool.

 
Mad Cow said:
Very good friend of mine is leasing an S. Has taken me on a few rides on Insane mode. Sooooo cool.
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Even the non-performance versions of the Model S are super quick. I went on a road trip in a 70D and we could blow by a semi and be back in the right lane in under 3 seconds (7 passengers, 4 adults.)

 
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