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why would the Bills be "forced" to release him? They can fit him under the cap. The only reason this is happening is b/c they want him to take a cut and he refused. Just because he agreed to a renegotiated contract with the Texans doesn't mean they have to deal him. They could still change their mind and decide they are willing to keep him under his current contract.
yes, they could afford to keep him if they wanted to. they just don't think he's worth $7 million.
I agree he sometimes tends to overpay. But I don't think even Casserly would give up a 3rd since the Texan's two 3rds are 3.1 and 3.2. The 4.1 should be more than enough to get Moulds, given his age and his situation with the Bills.I'll take Moulds for the 4.1 (though I'd rather see a later pick back as well). Though my wish list would be to get Walker instead and let the Iggles have Moulds.
You could probably add Plaxico Burress to the list too.Just off the top of my head,Santana Moss (from Jets to Skins)This is not a good move by the Texans.
When was the last time a WR changed teams and had an impact for his new team? When was the last time a WR changed teams and repeated or bettered his numbers from the previous season with his old team?
Kennan McKardell (from Jags to Bucs)
Joe Horn (from KC to N.O.)
Jerry Rice (from 49er's to Raiders)
Eddie Kennison (from Donkeys to KC)
Not as rare as most think, but point taken.
Could be we aren't as simple as our team's on-field play is. I think that we would have to give him a contract larger than his worth. This may make sense if he was a long time Texan, but his glory days are in Buffalo. Is Eric Moulds worth a 4th rounder? Sure he is, but combine that with a high salary and a 2 year window of play, no way do I give up a first day pick for him. This year the first pick in the 4th round of a deep draft is as good as a first day pick in most any other year to me. This is the easiest pick to trade after some GM sits up all night re-shuffling his draft board, so if I use it in a trade it will be for a younger prospect.
as a Bills fan who has watched pretty much every game Moulds has played in the NFL, I wish the Bills would pay him the $7 million to keep him around. He's got plenty more left and will bring way more to the Texans than a lot of the other high priced free agents they've signed in the past.That trade for Buchanon was horrible. If you give up that much for a CB who can't cover...a WR like Moulds should be worth twice as much.
you go right ahead and get a feel good from your GM with one foot out the door making deals for with your future picks...picks he generally undervalued and traded away in the past.No reply? I'd expect Casserly to leave shortly after the draftI don't understand your pig usage
you go right ahead and get a feel good from your GM with one foot out the door making deals for with your future picks...picks he generally undervalued and traded away in the past.No reply? I'd expect Casserly to leave shortly after the draftI don't understand your pig usage
Terrell Owens from the 9ers to the Eagles is the most obviousYou could probably add Plaxico Burress to the list too.Just off the top of my head,Santana Moss (from Jets to Skins)This is not a good move by the Texans.
When was the last time a WR changed teams and had an impact for his new team? When was the last time a WR changed teams and repeated or bettered his numbers from the previous season with his old team?
Kennan McKardell (from Jags to Bucs)
Joe Horn (from KC to N.O.)
Jerry Rice (from 49er's to Raiders)
Eddie Kennison (from Donkeys to KC)
Not as rare as most think, but point taken.
If he leaves after the draft I'd hardly call it a future pick. Nor would I expect someone to take a key job with the NFL harming a team on his way out. I'm sure the NFL considerred many people before (all but) naming him as Art Shell's replacementyou go right ahead and get a feel good from your GM with one foot out the door making deals for with your future picks...picks he generally undervalued and traded away in the past.No reply? I'd expect Casserly to leave shortly after the draftI don't understand your pig usage
Ok...I will type real slow...Casserly = likely gone. Speculation is he is toast before we take the field in '06.you go right ahead and get a feel good from your GM with one foot out the door making deals for with your future picks...picks he generally undervalued and traded away in the past.No reply? I'd expect Casserly to leave shortly after the draftI don't understand your pig usage
cynicism is based on history and job performance. What's your point?
Yes, and Houston is an extremely good fit for Moulds. He will make Andre Johnson a better WR. Moulds will be very motivated and if he comes into camp in good shape he might be the primary WR. Moulds was not puhed by any WR while he was in Buffalo so I think this will be a good thing for him because Andre Johnson has the same kind of physical talent as Moulds.The limiting factor for Houston will be the ability of the quarterback to deilver the ball into tight spaces where Moulds and Johnson can use their size to make the catch.
This is a team with no wr2. It can't be a bad move if they only give up a second day pick since the "starter" right now is Kevin Walters.Suddenly I'm feeling somewhat septegenerian in my thinking here...nice list.
I'll still stand by my statement that this is a bad move. Four (Rice, SMoss, Kennison, McCardell) of the five players on that list had very good veteran QBs to help bridge the gap between them quickly. And Horn was an under used diamond in the rough at Kansas City before coming to New Orleans...basically everyone knew this.
I still say it will be close to a year or more before Moulds and Carr develope their chemistry together (unless a Andre Johnson injury forces it sooner). And when you make this trade for an aging veteran WR like Moulds, you need immediate production and results...I just don't see it happening here. This is the kind of move you might make when you are a veteran team with a veteran QB hoping to push yourself over the top...The Houston Texans are neither. Otherwise it very rarely works...
what good does it do to watch some decent football here in Houston? Quite a bit since I love NFL football and hate watching a no talent team. We have the cap room and he can walk away as we start to compete. Until then, hopefully we convert some 3rd downs.
Joey Galloway from seattle to Dallas then to TampaTerry Glenn from NE to Green Bay to DallasTerrell Owens from the 9ers to the Eagles is the most obviousYou could probably add Plaxico Burress to the list too.Just off the top of my head,Santana Moss (from Jets to Skins)This is not a good move by the Texans.
When was the last time a WR changed teams and had an impact for his new team? When was the last time a WR changed teams and repeated or bettered his numbers from the previous season with his old team?
Kennan McKardell (from Jags to Bucs)
Joe Horn (from KC to N.O.)
Jerry Rice (from 49er's to Raiders)
Eddie Kennison (from Donkeys to KC)
Not as rare as most think, but point taken.
Joey Galloway from seattle to Dallas then to Tampa Galloway did not improve upon his Seattle numbers when 1st moving to Dallas, nor did he improve upon his Dallas numbers when 1st moving to TampaTerrell Owens from the 9ers to the Eagles is the most obvious In It is what it is original post, he acknowledged TOYou could probably add Plaxico Burress to the list too. Another good exampleJust off the top of my head,Santana Moss (from Jets to Skins)This is not a good move by the Texans.
When was the last time a WR changed teams and had an impact for his new team? When was the last time a WR changed teams and repeated or bettered his numbers from the previous season with his old team?
Kennan McKardell (from Jags to Bucs)
Joe Horn (from KC to N.O.)
Jerry Rice (from 49er's to Raiders)
Eddie Kennison (from Donkeys to KC)
Not as rare as most think, but point taken.
Terry Glenn from NE to Green Bay to Dallas
Glenn did not improve upon his Green Bay numbers when 1st moving to Dallas
Key Johnson from NY to Tampa to Dallas and now probably Car.
Johnson did not improve upon his NY numbers when 1st moving to Tampa
Muhsin Muhhamid from Car to Chicago
Muhammad DEFINITELY did not improve upon his Car numbers when 1st moving to Chicago
Ditto. I'm sure that a lot of people don't realize what it is like to be paying thousands of bucks for tickets for a 2-14 season. McNair looked up at a mostly empty stadium against the Rams (sold out, but people didn't bother to show up) and that was when he decided Capers would be fired.They have a responsibility to the fans to try to get to the Super Bowl, but they also have one to try to field a competitive team and make the games worth watching.
So, the Texans would then go into the season with a 4th WR who has proven even less than the three guys i mentioned??? This is horrible draft for WRs, so let's go into it needing to draft a WR who is going to have to play right away? No problem drafting a guy to develop, but forcing a rookie into the line-up will a recipe for the Texans to continue swimming in the mire in the NFL. As Mole and Greg R mentioned the Texans have not put an NFL quality roster on the field.
Over the last 3 years there have been 25 WRs drafted in the 1st & 2nd rounds of the draft and there are about 5 of them worth a flip. BTW, my comment was specifically about the sorry WRs this particular draft looks to be producing ( of course we don't know either way), not a general rule. Moulds old and aging tail caught 80 balls last year. He is better bet to that again than guessing upon the right rookie get 50.I was rethinking that before I saw your post, but for different reasons. Sinorice Moss may not be the best fit for what Houston is likely to be running anyway, so scratch that quick thought/response. Houston is likely to be looking for bigger receivers. Here is what Houston could have done, go to Oakland and hit up the Raiders for WR Ron Curry or WR Doug Gabriel. That is something they could have looked into as either would be a good fit for them. And both Curry and Gabriel stand to be around and productive for Houston when they are ready to contend, unlike Moulds. Eric Moulds is nothing special here...Moulds is old and it shows. He was also complaining and whining alot last year about his QB. Receivers tend to do that when they start to break down...And I disagree with your thought that starting a rookie WR is a recipe for disaster...the rookie WR will never produce in his first year theory went out the window years ago.
Eric Moulds 2006 Stats80 CatchesOver the last 3 years there have been 25 WRs drafted in the 1st & 2nd rounds of the draft and there are about 5 of them worth a flip. BTW, my comment was specifically about the sorry WRs this particular draft looks to be producing ( of course we don't know either way), not a general rule. Moulds old and aging tail caught 80 balls last year. He is better bet to that again than guessing upon the right rookie get 50.I was rethinking that before I saw your post, but for different reasons. Sinorice Moss may not be the best fit for what Houston is likely to be running anyway, so scratch that quick thought/response. Houston is likely to be looking for bigger receivers. Here is what Houston could have done, go to Oakland and hit up the Raiders for WR Ron Curry or WR Doug Gabriel. That is something they could have looked into as either would be a good fit for them. And both Curry and Gabriel stand to be around and productive for Houston when they are ready to contend, unlike Moulds. Eric Moulds is nothing special here...Moulds is old and it shows. He was also complaining and whining alot last year about his QB. Receivers tend to do that when they start to break down...And I disagree with your thought that starting a rookie WR is a recipe for disaster...the rookie WR will never produce in his first year theory went out the window years ago.
816 Yards
10.1 Avg
4 Touchdowns
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Moulds is done...stick a fork in him. Houston should deal for Curry or Gabriel instead of Moulds...that's my take.
The fact that you don't know that 80 catches put Moulds easily in the top 20 in the NFL or that his yardage is probably top 35 speaks for itself.
