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The 100 Greatest movies of the 80s #57. Ordinary People (6 Viewers)

Do people here not like Woody Allen or something?

Number of Woody Allen movies I like = the number of times I have slept with Scarlett Johannson.
Same. Loathe his movies…..loathe them.
Had to check again but I can confirm I didn't really like one Woody Allen movie. I always thought When Harry Met Sally was a Woody movie. I didn't mind that one., but alas it isn't. So I enjoyed zero Woody movies. Ha ha
 
Do people here not like Woody Allen or something?

Number of Woody Allen movies I like = the number of times I have slept with Scarlett Johannson.
Same. Loathe his movies…..loathe them.
Had to check again but I can confirm I didn't really like one Woody Allen movie. I always thought When Harry Met Sally was a Woody movie. I didn't mind that one., but alas it isn't. So I enjoyed zero Woody movies. Ha ha
Rob Reiner. And that’s a classic.
 
61. Fast Times At Ridgemont High (1982)

Directed by: Amy Heckerling

Starring: Sean Penn, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Judge Reinhold, Phoebe Cates

Synopsis:
A group of high schoolers experience first loves and relationships.

What Jefferson was saying was “We left this England place ‘cause it was bogus”- Sean Penn as Jeff Spicoli.

Starting a mini run of some classic high school films…the two things I love most about this movie: (b) Playing “Kashmir” (after he was advised to put on Led Zeppelin IV- lol)
(a) Phoebe comes out of the pool- candidate for the greatest moment in cinematic history!
“It’s better to be silent and be thought a fool , than to speak and remove all doubt “
 
62. Excalibur (1981)

Directed by: John Boorman

Starring: Nigel Terry, Nicol Williamson, Helen Mirren

Synopsis:
Tells the legend of King Arthur and Camelot.

Now once more I must ride with my knights to defend what was, and what might be- Nigel Terry as King Arthur

Happy to be back! This film is, IMO, one of the very few decent fantasy (meaning sword and sorcery) movies ever made prior to the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Excellent acting, dialogue, script, and beautiful cinematography.
Are you kiddding me? The knights riding into battle whilst REMOVING THEIR HELMETS? The complete impossibility of Uther raping Igraine while wearing that suit of armour? Watching shiny suits of armour tarnish during the scenes? We went because our friends had just seen it and told us how hiarious it was. We went to the next show and tried not to disturb the audience with our laughter.

The best bits were Helen Mirren and some of the Merlin parts. Otherwise, midnight movie worthy. Also, definitely better than some of the previous selections.
One of my classmates convinced our 10th grade English teacher to let us watch this movie in class. Somehow she knew about the rape scene (but still agreed to show the movie) and had a plan to fast forward and skip the scene. But since she was not tech-savvy, she pressed fast forward on the VCR without hitting stop first, so the scene simply played at a faster speed, which made it appear pornographic. I have vivid memories of one of my best friends yelling “is he still wearing his armor?” while the frazzled teacher desperately tried to stop the movie.

It was awkward. Everyone I still am in contact with from that class remembers the moment nearly identically to me (including my wife who was also in the same class).

I haven’t seen the movie since and have no idea if it belongs on this list.
 
Have we received a formal justification from Tim for the Fast Times ranking?

I want reparations!
I rewatched the Phoebe Cates and Jennifer Jason Leigh scenes 3 times to make sure I am outraged enough.
Might need to see them a few more times to get it out of my system.
And no one is talking about Judge Reinhold? It's a classic. Of course, when he dies it won't be the scene that gets played on the news.
 
now that I've read this whole list I'm a little confused at some of the rankings but not an expert on 80's movies so...

Goones and Ghostbusters seems so low
Comedies always are. People seem to think that they are less than because they are funny and somehow that's just easier to do. Idiots.
I would argue that comedies are often easier to make, but anything at the top of a genre is hard to pull off well. I often have more to look at and think about with a stuffy drama as far as direction, cinematography, etc.. so those get a bump for me when I do lists.

For me personally, what I run into is that comedies age faster and become outdated quicker than some of the other genres. I encounter this a lot with late 70s/80s movies now, and find a lot of the jokes and humor to be a bit cringe. All that said, I am talking more about movies like Sixteen Candles and Revenge of the Nerd but think Goonies, Ghostbusters, and Fast Times hold up very well.
 
Have we received a formal justification from Tim for the Fast Times ranking?

I want reparations!
I rewatched the Phoebe Cates and Jennifer Jason Leigh scenes 3 times to make sure I am outraged enough.
Might need to see them a few more times to get it out of my system.
And no one is talking about Judge Reinhold? It's a classic. Of course, when he dies it won't be the scene that gets played on the news.
Judge inspired a generation of teenage boys to make sure they locked the bathroom at all times.
 
60. The Karate Kid (1984)

Directed by: John G. Avildsen

Starring: Ralph Macchio, Pat Morita, Elizabeth Shue, William Zabka

Synopsis:
A bullied high school kid, new to Southern California, tries his luck with karate.

To make honey, young bee need young flower, not old prune. - Pat Morita as Mr. Miyagi

The tale of Daniel Russo begins here. The terrific show Cobra Kai got me, and no doubt many many others, to think about this movie and its, IMO, rather schlocky sequels, for the first time in years. But what I think makes the original film so good is the chemistry between Morita and Macchio, who normally bugs the crap out of me.

Much like Fast Times this film is iconic 80s.
 
The Karate Kid is more relevant than ever. The theme of inter-generational conflict is dealt with in a remarkably heartwarming way and provides a valuable lesson for those willing to listen.

Daniel is, like many teenage kids, angry at his mom. Some of that is justified (she didn't ask him about the move) but some is likely displaced anger due to his absent father. He thinks "nobody understands what I'm going through" - which is technically true as we're all going through our own stuff. IMHO, that's particularly bad when there's no father (or mother, for that matter) figure in a teenager's life.

But then he meets Mr. Miyagi who fills the role of father, mentor, and friend all in one. Most importantly, he gives Daniel important perspective. Daniel may have lost some friends in the move and is having a tough time fitting into his new surroundings - but how does that compare to losing a wife and child during childbirth? It doesn't minimize what Daniel is going through, but it teaches him that he CAN get through it and it doesn't need to make him a destructive force to those around him.

Like Elliot in E.T., Daniel is taught that it's okay to look outside himself and elevate his behavior over his emotions.

I think a lot of people could do more of that these days.
 
Karate Kid has made a mark on pop culture for sure. Heck 40 years later and they are making a sequel to the remake and connecting it to the original!!!

Plus you have the fan theories about Daniel being the true bully of the movie. Macchio and Zabka's cameo on How I Met Your Mother probably helped get Cobra Kai going.
 
Pat Morita was 52 when the movie came out. I am way older than that. Greaaaaat.
Damn. This hits hard. Bah-ha-ha
fixed

/Arnold
You people are just cruel.
My apologies - was really pointing the finger at myself, too, for being older than Mr Miyagi.
You realise I'm just joking. I'm the one who brought up being so very, very old.
 
Pat Morita was 52 when the movie came out. I am way older than that. Greaaaaat.
Damn. This hits hard. Bah-ha-ha
fixed

/Arnold
You people are just cruel.
My apologies - was really pointing the finger at myself, too, for being older than Mr Miyagi.
You realise I'm just joking. I'm the one who brought up being so very, very old.
Pretty sure you pointed the finger at all of us, you monster. (As well as the shirt)
 
Pat Morita was 52 when the movie came out. I am way older than that. Greaaaaat.
Damn. This hits hard. Bah-ha-ha
fixed

/Arnold
You people are just cruel.
My apologies - was really pointing the finger at myself, too, for being older than Mr Miyagi.
You realise I'm just joking. I'm the one who brought up being so very, very old.
Pretty sure you pointed the finger at all of us, you monster. (As well as the shirt)
There is that.
 
Still considering a lawsuit over the Ghostbusters ranking
Yeah, I'm still the most outraged over that one.

There is no justification for it to be outside of the top 50 and one could reasonably argue it should be top 25. Putting it at 87 is ungood.
Just wait until you see what will be ahead of it.
On Golden Pond, Reds, Tender Mercies, The Color Purple, Out of Africa, Driving Miss Daisy, Hannah and Her Sisters, Stardust Memories, Zelig, Purple Rose of Cairo, Broadway Danny Rose, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Radio Days, September etc
 
The Karate Kid is more relevant than ever. The theme of inter-generational conflict is dealt with in a remarkably heartwarming way and provides a valuable lesson for those willing to listen.
I agree with this. 60 is much too low in my opinion. We've watched a lot of the "iconic" movies from our youth with our kids, and this one holds up really really well.
 
59. Pretty In Pink (1986)

Directed by: Howard Deutch

Starring: Molly Ringwald, Jon Cryer, Andrew McCarthy

Synopsis:
Two high schoolers from different economic and social circles attempt a relationship.

This is an incredibly romantic moment and you’re ruining it for me! - Jon Cryer as Duckie.

I was surprised to see who the director was. Who is Howard Deutch? Turns out he also directed Some Kind of Wonderful which is another John Hughes film that is good but didn’t quite make my list. This one, a “Brat Pack” classic , certainly does. The plot is as old as time but it’s fun anyhow. All of the leads are excellent, particularly Cryer who was never this good again.

Credit to Hughes for including an appearance by one of my favorite 80s bands, the Rave-Ups, apparently at the insistence of Ringwald who was dating the lead singer at the time. However, the title song is a remake by the Furs; the original single from 1981 has always sounded better to me.
 
59. Pretty In Pink (1986)

Directed by: Howard Deutch

Starring: Molly Ringwald, Jon Cryer, Andrew McCarthy

Synopsis:
Two high schoolers from different economic and social circles attempt a relationship.

This is an incredibly romantic moment and you’re ruining it for me! - Jon Cryer as Duckie.

I was surprised to see who the director was. Who is Howard Deutch? Turns out he also directed Some Kind of Wonderful which is another John Hughes film that is good but didn’t quite make my list. This one, a “Brat Pack” classic , certainly does. The plot is as old as time but it’s fun anyhow. All of the leads are excellent, particularly Cryer who was never this good again.

Credit to Hughes for including an appearance by one of my favorite 80s bands, the Rave-Ups, apparently at the insistence of Ringwald who was dating the lead singer at the time. However, the title song is a remake by the Furs; the original single from 1981 has always sounded better to me.
Don't forget Harry Dean Stanton as Ringwald's Dad and Annie Potts as Ringwald's quirky older friend.
 
All of the leads are excellent, particularly Cryer who was never this good again.
Charlie Sheen would like a word with you.

I do agree though that Cryer killed it in PIP.
I can not stand Duckie

Some Kind of Wonderful >>>>>>>>>>>> Pretty in Pink.
I agree on both, although the fact that Duckie was so annoying speaks to how well Cryer played that part.
That is a fair point.
 
I was surprised to see who the director was. Who is Howard Deutch? Turns out he also directed Some Kind of Wonderful which is another John Hughes film that is good but didn’t quite make my list.
He also directed The Great Outdoors, which I presume did not make your list either. Probably the right call, but I did enjoy the raccoon shtick.
 
I was surprised to see who the director was. Who is Howard Deutch? Turns out he also directed Some Kind of Wonderful which is another John Hughes film that is good but didn’t quite make my list.
He also directed The Great Outdoors, which I presume did not make your list either. Probably the right call, but I did enjoy the raccoon shtick.
Didn't realize that Deutch is actually married to Lea Thompson and that they met when he directed her in Some Kind of Wonderful.
 
I was surprised to see who the director was. Who is Howard Deutch? Turns out he also directed Some Kind of Wonderful which is another John Hughes film that is good but didn’t quite make my list.
He also directed The Great Outdoors, which I presume did not make your list either. Probably the right call, but I did enjoy the raccoon shtick.
No Paul Bunyon hat for you! It's one of my favorites, but I'll admit it's a WI thing and the owner of the place reminds me of my FIL. Just a couple weeks ago we were quoting it at the store and laughing about the Old 96er.
 
All of the leads are excellent, particularly Cryer who was never this good again.
Charlie Sheen would like a word with you.

I do agree though that Cryer killed it in PIP.
I can not stand Duckie

Some Kind of Wonderful >>>>>>>>>>>> Pretty in Pink.
The plots of the movies are very similar with the genders reversed.
Eric Stoltz in the Molly Ringwald role, Lea Thompson in the Andrew McCarthy role. Mary Stuart Masterson in the Jon Cryer role.
Some Kind Of Wonderful has a great soundtrack.
 
All of the leads are excellent, particularly Cryer who was never this good again.
Charlie Sheen would like a word with you.

I do agree though that Cryer killed it in PIP.
I can not stand Duckie

Some Kind of Wonderful >>>>>>>>>>>> Pretty in Pink.
The plots of the movies are very similar with the genders reversed.
Eric Stoltz in the Molly Ringwald role, Lea Thompson in the Andrew McCarthy role. Mary Stuart Masterson in the Jon Cryer role.
Some Kind Of Wonderful has a great soundtrack.
SKOW has the prototypical obnoxious '80s younger sibling though.
 
All of the leads are excellent, particularly Cryer who was never this good again.
Charlie Sheen would like a word with you.

I do agree though that Cryer killed it in PIP.
I can not stand Duckie

Some Kind of Wonderful >>>>>>>>>>>> Pretty in Pink.
The plots of the movies are very similar with the genders reversed.
Eric Stoltz in the Molly Ringwald role, Lea Thompson in the Andrew McCarthy role. Mary Stuart Masterson in the Jon Cryer role.
Some Kind Of Wonderful has a great soundtrack.
SKOW has the prototypical obnoxious '80s younger sibling though.
I think my favorite of those is Seth Green in Can't Buy Me Love.
 
All of the leads are excellent, particularly Cryer who was never this good again.
Charlie Sheen would like a word with you.

I do agree though that Cryer killed it in PIP.
I can not stand Duckie

Some Kind of Wonderful >>>>>>>>>>>> Pretty in Pink.
The plots of the movies are very similar with the genders reversed.
Eric Stoltz in the Molly Ringwald role, Lea Thompson in the Andrew McCarthy role. Mary Stuart Masterson in the Jon Cryer role.
Some Kind Of Wonderful has a great soundtrack.
SKOW has the prototypical obnoxious '80s younger sibling though.
I think my favorite of those is Seth Green in Can't Buy Me Love.
For me, it's easily Buddy in Just One of the Guys. #allballsitch
 

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