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The AAF and XFL (2 Viewers)

TheIronSheik said:
I like the testing of new ideas.  Not sure I'm sold, but I give them credit for experimenting.

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I support new ideas as well.....but this one pretty much guarantees that no team will ever go for 1 unless they only need to score exactly 1 point to win or tie.

4th-and-5 is successful 38.5% of the time (link), while 4th-and-2 is successful 50.8% of the time (link). So, you get twice the points for less-than-twice-the-risk.

Meanwhile, 4th-and-10 is successful 30.6% of the time (link) so from a statistical point of view you're better off going for 3 every time.

 
[scooter] said:
I support new ideas as well.....but this one pretty much guarantees that no team will ever go for 1 unless they only need to score exactly 1 point to win or tie.

4th-and-5 is successful 38.5% of the time (link), while 4th-and-2 is successful 50.8% of the time (link). So, you get twice the points for less-than-twice-the-risk.

Meanwhile, 4th-and-10 is successful 30.6% of the time (link) so from a statistical point of view you're better off going for 3 every time.
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Not every time.  If you go for 3 and miss, when I score a touchdown, I might go for 1 or 2.  

 
What all these new leagues don't get is people want to see the best footballers in the world compete,  not so much about the actual game of football.  I LOVE the NFL, bot won't watch Arena or CFL. The college game is a different breed of cat.

 
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ZenoRazon said:
What all these new leagues don't get is people want to see the best footballers in the world compete,  not so much about the actual game of football.  I LOVE the NFL, bot won't watch Arena or CFL. The college game is a different breed of cat.
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Totally agree.  Who would ever watch spring football?

Signed,

The USFL

 
TheIronSheik said:
[scooter] said:
I support new ideas as well.....but this one pretty much guarantees that no team will ever go for 1 unless they only need to score exactly 1 point to win or tie.

4th-and-5 is successful 38.5% of the time (link), while 4th-and-2 is successful 50.8% of the time (link). So, you get twice the points for less-than-twice-the-risk.

Meanwhile, 4th-and-10 is successful 30.6% of the time (link) so from a statistical point of view you're better off going for 3 every time.
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Not every time.  If you go for 3 and miss, when I score a touchdown, I might go for 1 or 2.  
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If I go for 3 and fail, you will go for 2. The odds are simply too much in your favor.

The only reason to go for 1 is if it's the 4th quarter and you only need 1 point to win or tie.

 
[scooter] said:
If I go for 3 and fail, you will go for 2. The odds are simply too much in your favor.

The only reason to go for 1 is if it's the 4th quarter and you only need 1 point to win or tie.
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I don't think that's the only time.  If I'm up by a certain amount (say 16, because I'm not good at math and don't feel like mathing right now), I can just tack on a point or two.  I can take the kind of guaranteed points over the tougher asks.  Just like teams don't take a 3 every time down the court. But I get what you're saying.

 
What will suck with any new football league is anyone there who stars with be gone after their first contract, the NFL will gobble them up.

How George Reed stayed in the CFL all those years?

 
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http://footballscoop.com/news/xfl-overtimes-will-feature-44-players-field-9-point-scoring-opportunities/

The other interesting change that caught my attention was their approach to overtime,

The idea is to have Team A’s offense on one end of the field vs. Team B’s defense, and then Team B’s offense ready on the other end of the field vs. Team A’s defense. 11+11+11+11=44. Scores by offenses will result in 2-points. In addition to making a whole lot of sense, it’s also very efficient time-wise which was very appealing to Luck and decision makers.

“We think it makes a lot of sense. We think it is very fair, as you pointed out, and we also think that we can get these games under three hours. So then, if we do have overtime, and we hope we do because that indicates a close game, that overtime session can get done in four or five minutes, and that cannot happen with a full quarter like the NFL, or like the college system that can go on for six or seven overtimes.”

“We plan on doing five opportunities each [team]. So back and forth, kind of like a ping-pong game, but we’re also saying that the defense can score a point with a turnover.”

 
LAUNCH said:
http://footballscoop.com/news/xfl-overtimes-will-feature-44-players-field-9-point-scoring-opportunities/

The other interesting change that caught my attention was their approach to overtime,

The idea is to have Team A’s offense on one end of the field vs. Team B’s defense, and then Team B’s offense ready on the other end of the field vs. Team A’s defense. 11+11+11+11=44. Scores by offenses will result in 2-points. In addition to making a whole lot of sense, it’s also very efficient time-wise which was very appealing to Luck and decision makers.

“We think it makes a lot of sense. We think it is very fair, as you pointed out, and we also think that we can get these games under three hours. So then, if we do have overtime, and we hope we do because that indicates a close game, that overtime session can get done in four or five minutes, and that cannot happen with a full quarter like the NFL, or like the college system that can go on for six or seven overtimes.”

“We plan on doing five opportunities each [team]. So back and forth, kind of like a ping-pong game, but we’re also saying that the defense can score a point with a turnover.”
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My crazy idea was always to have both opposing offenses/defenses playing at opposite ends of the field at the same time. First to score a TD wins.

 
LAUNCH said:
http://footballscoop.com/news/xfl-overtimes-will-feature-44-players-field-9-point-scoring-opportunities/

The other interesting change that caught my attention was their approach to overtime,

The idea is to have Team A’s offense on one end of the field vs. Team B’s defense, and then Team B’s offense ready on the other end of the field vs. Team A’s defense. 11+11+11+11=44. Scores by offenses will result in 2-points. In addition to making a whole lot of sense, it’s also very efficient time-wise which was very appealing to Luck and decision makers.

“We think it makes a lot of sense. We think it is very fair, as you pointed out, and we also think that we can get these games under three hours. So then, if we do have overtime, and we hope we do because that indicates a close game, that overtime session can get done in four or five minutes, and that cannot happen with a full quarter like the NFL, or like the college system that can go on for six or seven overtimes.”

“We plan on doing five opportunities each [team]. So back and forth, kind of like a ping-pong game, but we’re also saying that the defense can score a point with a turnover.”
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Wow,  I don't believe he has thought about how that would be officiated.  Will he have 2 crews?  Or is the crew going to have to run up and down the field?

 
Here are the teams.  

I like the Houston name.  I know when they were looking for team names for Houston's new franchise back in 2000, two of the most popular ones were the Roughnecks and the Wildcatters.  But ownership said they would not use any terms associated with oil.  I always thought both of these names were much better than the Texans.

 
TheIronSheik said:
Here are the teams.  

I like the Houston name.  I know when they were looking for team names for Houston's new franchise back in 2000, two of the most popular ones were the Roughnecks and the Wildcatters.  But ownership said they would not use any terms associated with oil.  I always thought both of these names were much better than the Texans.
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I am ok with all of the names except... BattleHawks.

 
Draft is in October.

The fact that it's the top headline on ESPN goes to show that they want this to succeed.  I don't think they barely mentioned the AAF.

 
I see Landry Jones already signed with the XFL.  The thought is that the XFL will try to sign 5 or 6 more QB's once the final NFL cuts are done.

 
XFL should sign Trevor Lawrence as soon as his season is over.

Along with any decent undergrad RB.

ETA: Didn't realize there was a strict cap on salaries. $600k max. Probably not worth it for Lawrence. But definitely could still be worth it for RBs.

 
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so why did the AAF fail so epicly?

Serious question... idk why it collapsed so quickly

 
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