The Apple iPhone Thread (14 Viewers)

[Shutout]

Oof... starts at $349.

Available early next year.

What a buzkill..The watch is classy and amazing but at that price point AND not available for holiday where a lot of people could get them gifted, it takes the wind out of the sales.

I was thinking this might be the case (price and availability) as soon as I saw the iphone had no sapphire glass (figured the sapphire was going to the watches).

Anyway, will be a great product. Well thought out with the digital crown and ability to accessorize but in the end, 80% of us are moving to bigger screens and not smaller ones so without it having a slick trick that makes it a must have, I'm passing at $349 + the inevitable add-ons.

 

[NutterButter]

I don't get the watch. Everyone's been complaining because the iPhone is too small. Yet they want a small screened watch? What's the point?

If I could afford the watch, I'd get one in a heartbeat. I wander around my house all day, and would love to be able to view calls and texts, etc without having the phone with me. I figure the BT on the watch and phone would cover my whole house.

Man..... when you step back and think about this statement, it just baffles me at how creative these companies can get. Here we are getting tempted to buy a new device (phone). But wait, there's more! You can buy this second device so you don't have to carry around the other device.

And the masses will wait in line to do so. Brilliant.

 

[Card Trader]

Welcome to the last three years

Thanks for stopping in... Been waiting on you guys

With Apple you have to get use to waiting

 

[Shutout]

Any mention of wireless charging for the phones?

 

[-jb-]

They should have gotten the "One" Bank of America guy.

"It's one watch..."

 

[TheIronSheik]

So people want the watch because they don't want to be bothered picking up their phone?

"I sure would like to answer that text, but I can't be bothered reaching in to my pocket and lifting up a couple of ounces. If only there was a simpler way of life."

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

So people want the watch because they don't want to be bothered picking up their phone?

"I sure would like to answer that text, but I can't be bothered reaching in to my pocket and lifting up a couple of ounces. If only there was a simper way of life."

it's like a fit bit. not sure it's meant to replace a phone.

price does seem steep but will probably come down eventually.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

why is the watch deusche talking like he's been wearing the watch for a year? "my friend and i have this code..."

where the #### have you been wearing a watch that no one has seen yet?

These nerds probably never leave the Apple base.

Hello! Its called "The Core"!! DUH.

 

[Quez]

How do they miss a holiday launch for the iWatch? That was stupid. There will be 5 android knockoffs that look just as nice by then.

You have it backwards. Andorid has had watches for awhile now

I meant to say they will have 5 knockoffs that look more like this. I'm as big of an android fan as you are gonna find on here, but even I will admit this thing looks better than the any of the android versions.

 

[-jb-]

U2 = one of the best rock bands ever.

Bono = one of the biggest deusches ever.

 

[MattFancy]

How do they miss a holiday launch for the iWatch? That was stupid. There will be 5 android knockoffs that look just as nice by then.

You have it backwards. Andorid has had watches for awhile now

I meant to say they will have 5 knockoffs that look more like this. I'm as big of an android fan as you are gonna find on here, but even I will admit this thing looks better than the any of the android versions.

It definitely looks pretty neat. I'm just not sure how much smart watches are really going to take off.

I have an original Kickstarter Pebble that I don't wear that often. I don't know any of my friends that have a smart watch. I could be wrong and these things will take off soon. But at $350 for a smart watch, I don't see many people jumping on this one.

 

[Fat Nick]

So the watch cost more than the phone?

Likely because the phone prices as-quoted are with the carrier subsidy. The watch is stand-alone, so Apple doesn't get a kick-back from the cellular carrier. If you really wanted to compare prices apples-to-apples, compare the watch to the no-contract iPhone prices.

 

[culdeus]

If you want a watch that can talk to your iphone there are several out there on the market. Let's not go around pretending android watches are the only ones out there.

They've made it slicker, and more expensive. And it sounds like it's going to be pretty damn useless if your phone isn't anywhere nearby.

With the LCD screen it's not really a watch. If you have to push a button to get the time it isn't a watch. It's a display. It's simply not possible to display the time constantly on a LCD screen.

It's a pebble you have to charge constantly with NFC and a HRM. For 350 +InAppPurchases.

 

[NutterButter]

You'd have to pay me $250 to wear that pebble watch

 

[-jb-]

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You don't have permission to access "http://www.apple.com/iphone/" on this server.

Reference #18.140c1160.1410289299.20de7d58

 

[Slapdash]

Still playing catch-up in here I see.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Of course it's a display. Did anyone think the Apple Watch was going to be a precision Swiss time piece? It's a display and an interface. Considering that the interface is probably the single most important feature of any proposed wearable technology, I'm not sure why that's considered a limitation.

 

[Sammy3469]

Of course it's a display. Did anyone think the Apple Watch was going to be a precision Swiss time piece? It's a display and an interface. Considering that the interface is probably the single most important feature of any proposed wearable technology, I'm not sure why that's considered a limitation.

If you really need an iPhone close to get GPS, that's pretty much a deal breaker for real fitness use these days.

 

[(HULK)]

Did they invent near field communication this time?

Who cares? I don't care who invents electric cars either. I care who makes them feasible.

NFC payments have been feasible and in use for over 2 years. I've used my phone to pay for stuff for a long time.

 

[Slapdash]

Did they invent near field communication this time?

Who cares? I don't care who invents electric cars either. I care who makes them feasible.

NFC payments have been feasible and in use for over 2 years. I've used my phone to pay for stuff for a long time.

Now you get to do it with Apple's security features, like the iCloud.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

I was thinking this might be the case (price and availability) as soon as I saw the iphone had no sapphire glass (figured the sapphire was going to the watches).

Stock of GTAT, who makes the sapphire is down 13%. It was a popular "derivative play" into the launch.

 

[Osaurus]

Not sure I have a need for the watch at all. Like the +, but it feels like Apple is trying to catch up. Ultimately for me it comes down to my contract and whether AT&T will honor my "unlimited" plan one more time. Been very happy with iPhones over the years, but would have no problem moving to a Galaxy. We shall see.

 

[siffoin]

Did they invent near field communication this time?

Who cares? I don't care who invents electric cars either. I care who makes them feasible.

NFC payments have been feasible and in use for over 2 years. I've used my phone to pay for stuff for a long time.

I have a lot of respect for your knowledge in these types of things. Would like to hear your thoughts about if using NFC is safe, secure- how to use efficiently etc. Probably better in another thread but I'm interested in how to use this technology.

 

[Osaurus]

Not sure I have a need for the watch at all. Like the +, but it feels like Apple is trying to catch up. Ultimately for me it comes down to my contract and whether AT&T will honor my "unlimited" plan one more time. Been very happy with iPhones over the years, but would have no problem moving to a Galaxy. We shall see.

I've never had an issue with this.

Verizon has forced people off of it if they want to upgrade. Just waiting for AT&T to follow suit and get me on a more tiered data plan.

 

[(HULK)]

Did they invent near field communication this time?

Who cares? I don't care who invents electric cars either. I care who makes them feasible.

NFC payments have been feasible and in use for over 2 years. I've used my phone to pay for stuff for a long time.

Now you get to do it with Apple's security features, like the iCloud.

Then the supermarket would get access to all of my nude selfies

 

[Slapdash]

Did they invent near field communication this time?

Who cares? I don't care who invents electric cars either. I care who makes them feasible.

NFC payments have been feasible and in use for over 2 years. I've used my phone to pay for stuff for a long time.

Now you get to do it with Apple's security features, like the iCloud.

Then the supermarket would get access to all of my nude selfies

Or that video where you punched yourself down there....

 

[butcher boy]

U2 = one of the best rock bands ever.

Bono = one of the biggest deusches ever.

Pretty sure he's Irish, not german.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Of course it's a display. Did anyone think the Apple Watch was going to be a precision Swiss time piece? It's a display and an interface. Considering that the interface is probably the single most important feature of any proposed wearable technology, I'm not sure why that's considered a limitation.

If you really need an iPhone close to get GPS, that's pretty much a deal breaker for real fitness use these days.

You think? I'm going to use my phone to play my music when I run (and because I like to be available in case my wife or my folks or my job needs me for something). The standard solution to carry it is an armband. And I can either futz with MapMyRun or Nike+ at the start to the workout or I can wear a separate GPS enabled sports watch or a "dumb" pedometer-only wearable like a FitBit. I'd much rather simply have the phone in my pocket, or at worst a minimalist running pack.

I think it would be a terrible waste to put the GPS chip in the watch itself (as opposed to an NFC chip or something).

 

[(HULK)]

Did they invent near field communication this time?

Who cares? I don't care who invents electric cars either. I care who makes them feasible.

NFC payments have been feasible and in use for over 2 years. I've used my phone to pay for stuff for a long time.

I have a lot of respect for your knowledge in these types of things. Would like to hear your thoughts about if using NFC is safe, secure- how to use efficiently etc. Probably better in another thread but I'm interested in how to use this technology.

Their implementation is interesting. Keeping the actual credit card number from the vendor is somewhat safer, protecting you from things like Target and Home Depot hacks. However, that info is still out there, it'll just be on an Apple owned and operated system... which could also be vulnerable to hacking. Last week showed that Apple isn't exactly the most excellent steward of data, but I also imagine something like this... security would be a higher priority. I'm still pondering which is better or not. Its kinda irrelevant for me since I opted out of the Apple eco$y$tem years ago though. In terms of Google Wallet, safety is pretty much identical to swiping your credit card at the store.

 

[MattFancy]

Did they invent near field communication this time?

Who cares? I don't care who invents electric cars either. I care who makes them feasible.

NFC payments have been feasible and in use for over 2 years. I've used my phone to pay for stuff for a long time.

I have a lot of respect for your knowledge in these types of things. Would like to hear your thoughts about if using NFC is safe, secure- how to use efficiently etc. Probably better in another thread but I'm interested in how to use this technology.

I think with all the phone hacking and checkout hacking going along, people are going to be very cautious about using their cell phone to pay for things. Just my

 

[(HULK)]

Of course it's a display. Did anyone think the Apple Watch was going to be a precision Swiss time piece? It's a display and an interface. Considering that the interface is probably the single most important feature of any proposed wearable technology, I'm not sure why that's considered a limitation.

If you really need an iPhone close to get GPS, that's pretty much a deal breaker for real fitness use these days.

You think? I'm going to use my phone to play my music when I run (and because I like to be available in case my wife or my folks or my job needs me for something). The standard solution to carry it is an armband. And I can either futz with MapMyRun or Nike+ at the start to the workout or I can wear a separate GPS enabled sports watch or a "dumb" pedometer-only wearable like a FitBit. I'd much rather simply have the phone in my pocket, or at worst a minimalist running pack.

I think it would be a terrible waste to put the GPS chip in the watch itself (as opposed to an NFC chip or something).

Its much smarter to have GPS and internet connections routed over bluetooth via the phone. Unless you want to be wearing a graphing calculator on your wrist. I image this still tells time and runs local apps without the phone, so there is that.

Any word on battery life and water/dust resistance?

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

While I'm not convinced that Apple Pay has shown to have superior security to what you're already using, it certainly doesn't appear to have less security, assuming you already use credit cards online or swipe them at stores. Anymore than iCloud was shown to have inferior security to Dropbox. It sound like the nude hackers acquired those images any number of ways.

 

[(HULK)]

While I'm not convinced that Apple Pay has shown to have superior security to what you're already using, it certainly doesn't appear to have less security, assuming you already use credit cards online or swipe them at stores. Anymore than iCloud was shown to have inferior security to Dropbox. It sound like the nude hackers acquired those images any number of ways.

Its a different implementation. Frankly, I'm hoping its better, cause if it is, that can be copied and used by Google Waller and SoftCard (formerly Isis).

 

[(HULK)]

I still think the Moto 360 is the best looking smartwatch at the moment. I want one, but I've decided to skip this generation. Whatever comes out next year will probably be significantly improved. Battery life seems to be a major problem for most of them at the moment.

 

[Sammy3469]

Of course it's a display. Did anyone think the Apple Watch was going to be a precision Swiss time piece? It's a display and an interface. Considering that the interface is probably the single most important feature of any proposed wearable technology, I'm not sure why that's considered a limitation.

If you really need an iPhone close to get GPS, that's pretty much a deal breaker for real fitness use these days.

You think? I'm going to use my phone to play my music when I run (and because I like to be available in case my wife or my folks or my job needs me for something). The standard solution to carry it is an armband. And I can either futz with MapMyRun or Nike+ at the start to the workout or I can wear a separate GPS enabled sports watch or a "dumb" pedometer-only wearable like a FitBit. I'd much rather simply have the phone in my pocket, or at worst a minimalist running pack.

I think it would be a terrible waste to put the GPS chip in the watch itself (as opposed to an NFC chip or something).

What happens if you have a 6+ though. At some point the size of the phone inhibits the workout.

It might work for runners, but it's certainly a dealbreaker for the triathlete or cyclist where Bluetooth (or however they plan on syncing them) hasn't worked well at all.

 

[The Commish]

Welcome to the last three years

Thanks for stopping in... Been waiting on you guys

Not paying close attention, but does this watch have those integrated sensors for exercising etc? If not, and the pics above are accurate, CT isn't wrong here

 

[culdeus]

Did they invent near field communication this time?

Who cares? I don't care who invents electric cars either. I care who makes them feasible.

NFC payments have been feasible and in use for over 2 years. I've used my phone to pay for stuff for a long time.

Now you get to do it with Apple's security features, like the iCloud.

So do my dong pics get converted to cash?

 

[Mr. Ected]

I don't get the watch. Everyone's been complaining because the iPhone is too small. Yet they want a small screened watch? What's the point?

If I could afford the watch, I'd get one in a heartbeat. I wander around my house all day, and would love to be able to view calls and texts, etc without having the phone with me. I figure the BT on the watch and phone would cover my whole house.

Man..... when you step back and think about this statement, it just baffles me at how creative these companies can get. Here we are getting tempted to buy a new device (phone). But wait, there's more! You can buy this second device so you don't have to carry around the other device.

And the masses will wait in line to do so. Brilliant.

When you (Ned) put it out like that, it does kinda seem stupid. I would probably be interested in getting something like this whichever system I had. I am an Apple fan, have been forever (since my IIe), but that is a story for another time.

Haven't looked into the health items, but would be interested if they would be able to 'detect' if I had a seizure. I have minor ones and if I am sleeping, I may not notice them, so I'd like to be able to track them.

 

[Slapdash]

Did they invent near field communication this time?

Who cares? I don't care who invents electric cars either. I care who makes them feasible.

NFC payments have been feasible and in use for over 2 years. I've used my phone to pay for stuff for a long time.

Now you get to do it with Apple's security features, like the iCloud.

So do my dong pics get converted to cash?

PM WetDream

 

[culdeus]

Of course it's a display. Did anyone think the Apple Watch was going to be a precision Swiss time piece? It's a display and an interface. Considering that the interface is probably the single most important feature of any proposed wearable technology, I'm not sure why that's considered a limitation.

If you really need an iPhone close to get GPS, that's pretty much a deal breaker for real fitness use these days.

You think? I'm going to use my phone to play my music when I run (and because I like to be available in case my wife or my folks or my job needs me for something). The standard solution to carry it is an armband. And I can either futz with MapMyRun or Nike+ at the start to the workout or I can wear a separate GPS enabled sports watch or a "dumb" pedometer-only wearable like a FitBit. I'd much rather simply have the phone in my pocket, or at worst a minimalist running pack.

I think it would be a terrible waste to put the GPS chip in the watch itself (as opposed to an NFC chip or something).

What happens if you have a 6+ though. At some point the size of the phone inhibits the workout.

It might work for runners, but it's certainly a dealbreaker for the triathlete or cyclist where Bluetooth (or however they plan on syncing them) hasn't worked well at all.

Agreed.

Lack of ANT+ support so far might be a deal breaker for serious fitness people.

Overall the more I look at it the fitness side might be the weakest thing about this watch. Virtually nothing is being brought into the space which is an improvement.

Plus wrist based HRM are iffy to begin with.

 

[[icon]]

Any word on battery life and water/dust resistance?

Posted a chart for battery life back a bit. It's improved a good bit (moreso in certain functions) over the 5s

No mention of the water/dust proofing so handset insurance will again be required for me.

 

[(HULK)]

Food for thought for all of the iPhoners out there. Is the 6plus w/ 64 GB @ $399 ON CONTRACT really better than a OnePlus One @ $349 OFF CONTRACT?

OnePlus One

64 GB storage, 3 GB RAM

5.5 inch display (1080 x 1920 pixels)(401 pixel density)

13 MP camera

etc etc

Here is a full comparision: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6327&idPhone2=6665

 

[Shutout]

Not sure I have a need for the watch at all. Like the +, but it feels like Apple is trying to catch up. Ultimately for me it comes down to my contract and whether AT&T will honor my "unlimited" plan one more time. Been very happy with iPhones over the years, but would have no problem moving to a Galaxy. We shall see.

I've never had an issue with this.

FWIW and of course depends on your usage but I was a diehard unlimited person forever but once I monitored my actual use on my family plan's phones, it was cheaper to go to limited plan. I am actually saving $50 a month but I don't use more than 2gb on my phone each month due to having access to wifi in almost all locations.

 

[(HULK)]

Any word on battery life and water/dust resistance?

Posted a chart for battery life back a bit. It's improved a good bit (moreso in certain functions) over the 5s

No mention of the water/dust proofing so handset insurance will again be required for me.

I meant for the watch.

 

[The Commish]

Not sure I have a need for the watch at all. Like the +, but it feels like Apple is trying to catch up. Ultimately for me it comes down to my contract and whether AT&T will honor my "unlimited" plan one more time. Been very happy with iPhones over the years, but would have no problem moving to a Galaxy. We shall see.

I've never had an issue with this.

Verizon has forced people off of it if they want to upgrade. Just waiting for AT&T to follow suit and get me on a more tiered data plan.

Wife has upgraded her phone three times on Verizon and still has "unlimited"....only has 250 minutes of talk time though.

 

[Shutout]

Weird and disturbing thought BUT:

With NFC approvals being made possible with touch ID, you think we will see crimes where people get their phone stolen and their thumbs cut off so that people can use them to make purchases?

 

[Sammy3469]

Of course it's a display. Did anyone think the Apple Watch was going to be a precision Swiss time piece? It's a display and an interface. Considering that the interface is probably the single most important feature of any proposed wearable technology, I'm not sure why that's considered a limitation.

If you really need an iPhone close to get GPS, that's pretty much a deal breaker for real fitness use these days.

You think? I'm going to use my phone to play my music when I run (and because I like to be available in case my wife or my folks or my job needs me for something). The standard solution to carry it is an armband. And I can either futz with MapMyRun or Nike+ at the start to the workout or I can wear a separate GPS enabled sports watch or a "dumb" pedometer-only wearable like a FitBit. I'd much rather simply have the phone in my pocket, or at worst a minimalist running pack.

I think it would be a terrible waste to put the GPS chip in the watch itself (as opposed to an NFC chip or something).

What happens if you have a 6+ though. At some point the size of the phone inhibits the workout.

It might work for runners, but it's certainly a dealbreaker for the triathlete or cyclist where Bluetooth (or however they plan on syncing them) hasn't worked well at all.

Agreed.

Lack of ANT+ support so far might be a deal breaker for serious fitness people.

Overall the more I look at it the fitness side might be the weakest thing about this watch. Virtually nothing is being brought into the space which is an improvement.

Plus wrist based HRM are iffy to begin with.

Which is fine, I just fail to see why exactly I need the watch if it basically has to always be paired to a phone especially a 5.5 inch phone.

 

[The Commish]

Did they invent near field communication this time?

Who cares? I don't care who invents electric cars either. I care who makes them feasible.

NFC payments have been feasible and in use for over 2 years. I've used my phone to pay for stuff for a long time.

I have a lot of respect for your knowledge in these types of things. Would like to hear your thoughts about if using NFC is safe, secure- how to use efficiently etc. Probably better in another thread but I'm interested in how to use this technology.

Their implementation is interesting. Keeping the actual credit card number from the vendor is somewhat safer, protecting you from things like Target and Home Depot hacks. However, that info is still out there, it'll just be on an Apple owned and operated system... which could also be vulnerable to hacking. Last week showed that Apple isn't exactly the most excellent steward of data, but I also imagine something like this... security would be a higher priority. I'm still pondering which is better or not. Its kinda irrelevant for me since I opted out of the Apple eco$y$tem years ago though. In terms of Google Wallet, safety is pretty much identical to swiping your credit card at the store.

If it's anything to the level of iTunes, I'd pass. Might as well have your data tattooed on your forehead. Yes, iTunes has ramped up security a bit, but it's not close to "secure" IMO.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Of course it's a display. Did anyone think the Apple Watch was going to be a precision Swiss time piece? It's a display and an interface. Considering that the interface is probably the single most important feature of any proposed wearable technology, I'm not sure why that's considered a limitation.

If you really need an iPhone close to get GPS, that's pretty much a deal breaker for real fitness use these days.

You think? I'm going to use my phone to play my music when I run (and because I like to be available in case my wife or my folks or my job needs me for something). The standard solution to carry it is an armband. And I can either futz with MapMyRun or Nike+ at the start to the workout or I can wear a separate GPS enabled sports watch or a "dumb" pedometer-only wearable like a FitBit. I'd much rather simply have the phone in my pocket, or at worst a minimalist running pack.

I think it would be a terrible waste to put the GPS chip in the watch itself (as opposed to an NFC chip or something).

What happens if you have a 6+ though. At some point the size of the phone inhibits the workout.

It might work for runners, but it's certainly a dealbreaker for the triathlete or cyclist where Bluetooth (or however they plan on syncing them) hasn't worked well at all.

Agreed.

Lack of ANT+ support so far might be a deal breaker for serious fitness people.

Overall the more I look at it the fitness side might be the weakest thing about this watch. Virtually nothing is being brought into the space which is an improvement.

Plus wrist based HRM are iffy to begin with.

Which is fine, I just fail to see why exactly I need the watch if it basically has to always be paired to a phone especially a 5.5 inch phone.

You obviously don't need the watch. But I'm pretty sure every smart watch is going to be paired to a phone for the foreseeable future. I don't expect any smart watch to really make a better running watch than Garmin or Suunto or whatever. I just don't think that will matter to most people who want a full-featured fitness tracker, particularly if they want other features.

 

[The Commish]

Weird and disturbing thought BUT:

With NFC approvals being made possible with touch ID, you think we will see crimes where people get their phone stolen and their thumbs cut off so that people can use them to make purchases?

No need to cut off a finger when you have all the finger prints sitting right there on the phone waiting to be lifted