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"The Bachelor" on ABC (4 Viewers)
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/marcusjones/corinne-olympios-breaks-silence-on-bachelor-in-paradise?bftw&utm_term=.bpEjD6pd10#.rnRg5MnkQj
“I am a victim and have spent the last week trying to make sense of what happened on June 4. Although I have little memory of that night, something bad obviously took place, which I understand is why production on the show has now been suspended and a producer on the show has filed a complaint against the production. As a woman, this is my worst nightmare and it has now become my reality. As I pursue the details and facts surrounding that night and the immediate days after, I have retained a group of professionals to ensure that what happened on June 4 comes to light and I can continue my life, including hiring an attorney to obtain justice and seeking therapy to begin dealing with the physical and emotional trauma stemming from that evening.”
“I am a victim and have spent the last week trying to make sense of what happened on June 4. Although I have little memory of that night, something bad obviously took place, which I understand is why production on the show has now been suspended and a producer on the show has filed a complaint against the production. As a woman, this is my worst nightmare and it has now become my reality. As I pursue the details and facts surrounding that night and the immediate days after, I have retained a group of professionals to ensure that what happened on June 4 comes to light and I can continue my life, including hiring an attorney to obtain justice and seeking therapy to begin dealing with the physical and emotional trauma stemming from that evening.”
General Malaise
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Aerial Assault
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oh brother
Baloney Sandwich
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She is going to cash in big time IMO. ABC has already tacitly admitted wrong doing by shutting down production on a huge moneymaking, franchise show.
They had to shut down production because a complaint was made. Unless receiving a complaint == tacitly admitting wrong doing, that's not what happened.
That being said, they'll shell out the money because it's easier/cheaper than going to court and putting your fate in the hands of a bunch of yahoos serving jury duty. And BiP will probably go away forever.
Unless the video, which I've heard the accuser and the victim have not seen, clearly shows she was fine. In that case, her claiming not to remember anything will probably help her avoid any countersuits, and BiP will be allowed to resume.
TLEF316
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Kinda serves ABC right on this one. This girl is obviously a Trainwreck with an alcohol problem. They got away with it with Chad last year but they were playing with fire.
I know most of the people on this thing aren't especially stable but she's on a whole other level. This show is dead
I know most of the people on this thing aren't especially stable but she's on a whole other level. This show is dead
Baloney Sandwich
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pretty good Q&A here with a top reality TV producer not associated with BiP
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/bachelor-in-paradise-scandal-reality-shows-producer-1202464687/
Production on “Bachelor in Paradise” was recently shut down, as Warner Bros. Television began an investigation for alleged misconduct on the set of the ABC series.
To answer questions regarding what happens behind-the-scenes on reality dating series like “Bachelor in Paradise,” Variety interviewed a top reality TV producer, who specializes in the dating show genre. This veteran producer — who agreed to speak anonymously — has worked for 25 years in the entertainment industry and has never worked on “The Bachelor” franchise. The producer offered valuable insight on standard on-set protocol, safety measures for contestants, plus paperwork that protects the network and the production company behind reality TV shows.
What sort of paperwork do contestants sign before appearing on camera on dating shows? Does the paperwork say anything explicitly about alcohol or sexual scenarios?
I would describe the paperwork that you have to sign on a show like this, or any reality show where you have to cohabit with people and date them, the release that you need to sign — to say the word “comprehensive” would be an understatement. We’re talking about a document that is thick and weighty, that releases the production company and the network from almost every conceivable possibility. It is encompassing. I can’t even think of enough words to describe how in-depth that release is.
Is there language in the paperwork that states contestants may be in a situation where they are drinking excessive amounts of alcohol and are engaging in sexual relationships with other contestants?
The language in the document basically outlines the fact that you will be presented with every type of environment, people, and compromising situations by volunteering to be on the show. Now, there is nothing in there that would constitute your willingness to be in an illegal act. The agreement covers that they’ll be in stressful situations, they’ll be interacting with other people and sleeping under the same roof as other people. It covers all levels of emotional distress and all of those kind of things.
Does anything in the paperwork state that producers may put contestants in staged situations?
There’s a lot of protections in the agreements about editorial, more than staged situations. I’d say it’s more that what you’re participating may be edited and shortened in ways that don’t depict the actuality of what’s going on, but I don’t think there is anything in there that says, “You will be told what to do.”
Rumors have been swirling in the tabloid press that the two alleged contestants in question on “Bachelor in Paradise” were told by producers that their storyline was staged to become romantically involved. Is it common for producers to put contestants in staged situations?
It depends completely on the type of show. On reality TV sets, there is absolutely no question that the producers absolutely encourage people to push their limits and go for it. That absolutely happens commonly.
Tabloid reports say the alleged female contestant in question had a boyfriend at the time of shooting “Bachelor in Paradise.” Would you ever allow a contestant to come on your show if you knew they had a significant other?
No, absolutely not. We have a thorough background check. For every contestant on our show, we’re calling their family, friends, ex-boyfriends, we’re getting personality profiles on them. We’re confident going into a show knowing if they are truly single or not. That being said, this is a unique situation — this girl was a star character on “The Bachelor” and then went home in between seasons and then was asked to come back onto “Bachelor in Paradise.” So she could have originally been single and then had a boyfriend, but the network could have said, “Now you’re one of our stars, so you’ve got to come back.” In the TV world, I’ve seen many people characterize their relationships as not very serious, but then suddenly in this situation, that casual situation becomes useful.
What is the screening process for contestants on reality dating shows?
In order to make it onto one of our shows, you have to go through intense risk-management screenings, which include psychological evaluation, background checks, medical examinations. We find out every possible thing we can about the people going on the show, whether they’re mentally, physically, and psychologically capable of handling the stress of being on the show. If there are any issues in their past with regard to drinking or violence, we have that stuff flagged and if somebody is not able to handle this situation with success, then they’re screened out. We spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on every season of our shows making sure that the people that are participating are capable of handling it, and then when they arrive on set, we have people watching all the time to make sure they’re careful with the alcohol and whatever else is involved. They’re our responsibility for a period of time and we have to make sure that fun and games are had, but [at the] end of the day, it’s about safety.
What should a producer do if they witness a situation that goes too far with alcohol or sex on set?
Unequivocally, it is your responsibility as a producer to step in when a cast member is intoxicated beyond the ability to make good and safe choices. We are, in a sense, creating an environment in a house reality show and when you create an environment like that, you have a responsibility to those within it to protect their safety. This is a very unusual circumstance where a group of sober individuals who are working are watching this environment from a control room and see every room, every drink that is drunk. Of course, you want to make it fun, but there is a line and when that line gets crossed, it’s time for that cast member to go to bed and sleep it off. It’s not time for that situation to continue — and that could be what the problem is here.
Obviously scenes are edited, but do you let the cameras keep rolling and then cut out sex scenes that are too raunchy or inappropriate?
When I talk to my producers, I always say the same thing: we can’t use the sex footage and I’m not interested. If two people are having sex, what can I do with that? That is pornography. We’re not going to show that. You can show the kissing or those inferential moments, but that’s all you can use. If the sex acts that are being depicted in the press [about “Bachelor in Paradise”] are true, then why are even you shooting? Every reality show has had drunken hookups and all of that stuff, but for this to have occurred, there is just no way that if this was a run-of-the-mill incident that they would have shut this show down.
Do you control the alcohol intake among contestants on set?
I produce these exact kind of shows and we are extraordinary careful about the use of alcohol. Alcohol on our show is released on a drink-by-drink basis. We put out a bottle of alcohol in the house, and then we watch the night… and then we might release another bottle. They do not have an open bar on our show. We literally control their intake of alcohol. At a certain point, as the person that is in control of this environment that you’re creating and you’re watching, you have to identify whether a person is making choices with a consciousness.
Since you’ve been in somewhat similar situations having been on many reality TV sets, what do you think could have gone wrong on “Bachelor In Paradise”?
My concern about this situation is that if the person was beyond a point of making her choices and was still being shot and being put into this scenario, it’s a very weird situation. When you talk about sexual assault, it’s almost always just two people alone and it becomes a he-said-she-said situation; this is the most unusual situation because not only is there a third party, but there are cameras that watched everything that happened and everything that led up to what happened. That, to me, is the smoking gun as to why a franchise worth hundreds of millions of dollars was shut down. There is videotaped evidence of the entire transgression, and they have the ability to go back and watch everything that happened and everything that led up to what happened. If it was totally fine, why would they have shut down the set?
Do you think this “Bachelor in Paradise” scandal will impact the reality TV industry as a whole?
There’s a multitude of unfortunate parts to this. First, if this girl was victimized, that’s just unconscionably bad. Second, this has put a severe blemish on the industry of unscripted television when most of us are respectful of boundaries and respectful about the contestants’ safety on the show. What’s sad about this is that this is going to be another log on the fire of people making assumptions about reality TV — now this one incident can cause a wild fire. I want the world to know that this is not standard; it’s abnormal. It’s just horrific. I really feel like from my instinct and my 25 years in this business that a show doesn’t get shut down for any instance happening on set. It just doesn’t happen. It’s a rarity. For the high-profile level of that show, something went down that they cannot back away from — I don’t know what that is, so who knows what’s going to happen from here.
General Malaise
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I don't know if it's dead...this thing generates a ton of cash for ABC with very little overhead compared to shows with actual actors. I think they will sort this out as quickly as possible and return to shooting. Ultimately, ABC is beholden to shareholders and they don't take kindly to losing easy revenue. They'll tighten it up with lawyers, Chris Harrison will come out and do a dramatic soliloquy with a dark background and serious muted music which will include a pledge to be more responsible with alcohol and risk management. Hell, he'll probably do that taping now and it will run on Monday's show.
This termagant will get paid right away, sign papers agreeing not to discuss what happened or how much she got and the collateral damage in all this will be a black man because of course.
Henry Ford
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That's what I thought when that guy from Megan Wants A Millionaire murdered a stripper, dismembered her, and tried to flee the country, and was only caught because her dismembered implants had medical ID numbers on them, but there hasn't been a "Millionaire" or "Of Love" show since. I'm on pins and needles here.Someone on Previously TV said exactly the same thing - that they're only watching the "main" shows so they have some sense of who the "players" are on Paradise.
I really can't see why they can't just finish their investigation, settle the legal issues quietly and return to that dump in Puerto Vallarta ASAP to resuming filming, probably without Corinne and "DeMario," and still make the early August airdate. And the idea that this will kill BIP permanently is, I think, ridiculous.
Henry Ford
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Side Note:
MTV's The Challenge survived a drunken rape allegation from Tonya Cooley, settled out of court. But that show didn't try to cultivate some kind of wholesome image.
MTV's The Challenge survived a drunken rape allegation from Tonya Cooley, settled out of court. But that show didn't try to cultivate some kind of wholesome image.
Aerial Assault
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McGarnicle
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I definitely haven't witnessed a woman anywhere either IRL, famous/online or whatever who has a higher quotient of physical beauty plus utter loathesomeness as a human being. The term hate-#### was invented for her.
Quint
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yeah. i don't see ABC/Disney litigating this unless there's incontrovertible evidence, i.e. the video, that contradicts Corrinne's story.
of course, we haven't heard from DeMario's people, and we haven't seen the vid.....
mquinnjr
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PinkydaPimp
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Apparently Kevin Durant smashed Rachel..... From Bill simmons podcast:
PinkydaPimp
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https://www.bustle.com/p/demario-jacksons-statement-about-the-bachelor-in-paradise-allegations-reveals-hes-taking-legal-action-64547?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=bustle
http://www.tmz.com/2017/06/14/corinne-olympios-lawyers-bachelor-in-paradise-investigation/
So looks like Corinne and DeMario are suing the show. They will both make out like bandits!
http://www.tmz.com/2017/06/14/corinne-olympios-lawyers-bachelor-in-paradise-investigation/
So looks like Corinne and DeMario are suing the show. They will both make out like bandits!
mquinnjr
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'murica!https://www.bustle.com/p/demario-jacksons-statement-about-the-bachelor-in-paradise-allegations-reveals-hes-taking-legal-action-64547?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=bustle
http://www.tmz.com/2017/06/14/corinne-olympios-lawyers-bachelor-in-paradise-investigation/
So looks like Corinne and DeMario are suing the show. They will both make out like bandits!
Of course they're both going to sue the show. It wouldn't make sense for them to sue each other - even though if she's a victim, he's the perpetrator and by claiming she's a victim, she's the one defaming him. But both know the other has little to no money. ABC's the one with money.https://www.bustle.com/p/demario-jacksons-statement-about-the-bachelor-in-paradise-allegations-reveals-hes-taking-legal-action-64547?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=bustle
http://www.tmz.com/2017/06/14/corinne-olympios-lawyers-bachelor-in-paradise-investigation/
So looks like Corinne and DeMario are suing the show. They will both make out like bandits!
McGarnicle
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Lets say they werent going to sue the show. Couldnt DeMario also make a case for being assulted and not giving consent since he was also heavily intoxicated? Curious to know what would happen in this case. I imagine the guy would be screwed though.
Short version: Corinne and DeMario were on the set of Bachelor in Paradise. They got a bit drunk and went to the pool. Sex-type stuff happened. Next day, a producer who didn't see what happened and didn't see the video of what happened heard some stories that made her uncomfortable about what happened and made a complaint. Production was shut down and everyone was sent home.
Not short version: No one's clear as to what happened at the pool. I've heard that DeMario said Corinne was lucid and engaged and instigated the whole encounter and shoved her genitals in his face for some oral, but he couldn't consummate because of the alcohol consumed. He also said that they've since been in contact and are cool with one another. I've heard other stories that she was passed out to the point that he was having to hold her up out of the water while he went to town on her, and afterward she had to be carried back to bed by production assistants. There are also rumors that production pushed for the whole thing to happen as a storyline for the show. Corinne says she has little to no memory of what happened, but apparently it was something bad, so she's lawyered up and is going to start therapy sessions to help her deal with a trauma she's not sure happened. I've also heard it said she claimed she would never participate willingly in an encounter like that because she has a bf back home and wouldn't jeopardize that relationship, even though that's the point of being on the show. DeMario's also lawyered up and will fight until his name has been cleared. ABC has not released the tapes. The show is shut down at least until they finish investigating what happened. Chris Harrison has said that he hopes the investigation finishes quickly and production can be restarted. Likely that will only happen if the tapes show Corinne was not too incapacitated to know what was going on.
VA703
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McGarnicle
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No posts about the Blackchelorette 
mquinnjr
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No posts about the Blackchelorette
Just came in to post about that. Got an ABC Insider email that they will be re-airing the Bachelorette - with out takes of audition tapes! Cop it this Monday at 9!
krista4
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I'm trying to catch up before Father's Day dinner and just watched the first two episodes. I don't understand the lack of interest.No posts about the Blackchelorette
Rachel is generally appealing, though she went a bit crazy over the insane troll doll they try to say was DeMario's girlfriend (NFW - DeMario might be the best-looking guy on the show and that woman was :X ). And sure, the Whaboom guy and his nemesis, who is somehow even worse (Blake?), are annoying and hopefully will be gone soon. Yeah, that hillbilly Lee is creeping me out. I don't get her interest in Dean, who seems like someone's baby brother that wondered onto the set. And Fred(?), the guy for whom she was camp counselor? That's just a weird vibe, too. OK, come to think of it, a lot of this sucks.Her group of guys is by far the best-looking they've ever had on the show, though, so I'll stick with it. I like Peter, Kenny, Alex and Will, though I don't see her going for Kenny, who seems more like a real adult human than she might want. She'll probably go for Bryan.
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McGarnicle
Footballguy
Good god this show is unwatchable. We just tried, literally couldn't deal with how awful it is.
I'm worried about this franchise. Ratings are down, BIP done... :(
I'm worried about this franchise. Ratings are down, BIP done... :(
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Baloney Sandwich
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Baloney Sandwich
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I'd pay $5.99 to watch Corinne getting her box chowed“Out of respect for the privacy interests of those involved, we do not intend to release the videotape of the incident,”
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