Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
I have extensive thoughts on this that I will reserve for after the show is over.
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"The Bachelor" on ABC (2 Viewers)
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Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
Nice free 10 minute commercial for the family business.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
That was the equivalent of Chris Hansen confronting a child predator.
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
Chantal's looking better after seeing her dad's pad.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Pretty sure Shawntel's dad isn't above a mercy killing here.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Thumb sucking. Oh here we go...
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
No way.
YSR
Footballguy
Maybe not tonight. But c'mon, did you see how awkward it was, even when she initiated the kissing? Brutal.Brad's not ready for a 6 year old.
honky kong
Footballguy
Anybody saying she's gone must not be listening to the way he talks about her. It's night and day compared to the others. She's almost coasting down the homestretch.Other observations:My favorite Brad quote of the night (and season) when talking to Ashley: "I am SO confident in whatever it is we have."Chantal O. at the rose ceremony - Jeebus! The only thing missing from that dress was the bell around her neck.Shawntel will be the next Bachelorette.
krista4
Footballguy
honky kong
Footballguy
One more observation - for the first couple of minutes of the meeting with Ashley's family, I thought I was watching a Saturday Night Live skit. Those people are wacky.
YSR
Footballguy
I said earlier that I thought Emily would be the next Bachelorette, but I've come around to this way of thinking lately. Even if Shawntel wasn't super cute and down to earth, Emily has enough issues letting her guard down with one guy. Can't imagine her with 16 of them.
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
She'll make the finale, I think, but dismissing her here would have sent the message: "I don't like your dumb daughter."
honky kong
Footballguy
No question, her head would explode.
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
Funeral director shtick would be a goldmine for the show. They'd use that organ music as the theme.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Okay, I tried again, briefly. You guys have to be kidding me that you like this? He is SO full of it, so much so it's almost great. ALMOST. The schmooze shtick is so over the top, it gets old right away for me. No wonder he did the show before; even down to the guy's voice, they know the audience (and the girls) just keep eating this stuff up. But YOU guys?? Hey, I'm as guilty for cheesy reality 
as the rest of you, but this one's too much. He's worse than a car salesman, it's the ultimate fishing trip. Cracks me up though, when a guy like Pickles is into it. 
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Of course he's a joke. That's the best part about it.Write up forthcoming. I should've taken notes.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Yeah, I know that's the best part. That's why I said it's ALMOST great. But I just can't get there. I am watching the rest of these meetings though, haha, sucker. And I just went to your link...hilarious, hand't seen that. lol @ OUR VIEW.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Hometown dates round-up and revised odds
Chantal
It's kind of unfair to host Brad in Seattle. Great city, tons to do, tons to see, and it turns out dear old dad is rich as ####. Oops! Looks like someone just leveled the playing field.
So.. how did she look? I'm reaching for the right words here, gentle reader, but "doughy" came to mind. What really struck me about Chantal was her personality. We usually see the Bachelor women make the rookie mistake of opening up too much on their home turf and acting exactly how they would if the guy isn't around. Chantal epitomized this. She was the freaking poster child. She was ebullient, effusive, loquacious, and myriad other words she doesn't know the meaning of. Before we even get to her Bachelorette Pad, Chantal is conducting herself like a five year old hopped up on Oreos and Capri Suns. While she's never really held her emotions in check (with all of the expertise of a high flow sieve), she's also never been this goofy and immature before. We've seen copious tears, but never the giddy school girl routine which I imagine is pretty much how she carries herself day-to-day. Throw in the new knowledge that dad has a few mil in the bank and, well, this is all starting to add up. Her biggest concern is probably when to bathe "Jinxie." I know.
It doesn't even matter what Chantal's house looks like. Sure it's nice and probably paid for, but it's nary a few blocks from dear ol' dad. Yes, friends, you can almost see the metaphorical umbilical cord winding through the neighborhood. We know that Chantal was married before, and we also have superficial proof that she grew as a person less than a typical college freshman over those ten-ish years. I won't speculate as to why, but something set her into a state of emotional hibernation, and what do you know: Brad was lucky enough to meet her during the thawing phase.
Dad's house is a palace. Let's just cut to the chase here. You could service an Airbus in that foyer. I'm sure dozens of talented artisans toiled several man-years for this glorious moment, and that's just how it ought to be, I think. It is a two hour show pulling a 9 share on a Monday. Forget about Chantal's transmogrification, which we've all documented. Suddenly she's looking like a 16 on a 10 point scale, especially with the other ladies revealing all kinds of special talents and hidden issues. Mom is your typical surgery-corrected trophy piece and seemed to be actively competing with her daughter for attention. Kind of cliché, ABC (Shayne Lamas, anyone?). Really, now. I guess we know that lipo is in the cards.
If you were just to assess this hometown "date" based on Chantal's actions, she would earn a solid D+. She did just about everything wrong save wet the bed, but it honestly didn't matter. The deck was stacked. If anyone should have gotten a rose, it would be Chantal's dad. That charming son of a ##### won Brad over. It only took a glass of wine. Probably a three buck Chuck, too.
Shawntel
Where to start. Well, if Chantal Oh gets a D+, I think we can rate this a healthy P-. WHAT. THE. HELL. WERE. YOU. THINKING. Look, if I'm Brad, I probably running through the following thoughts in the limo ride: "Chico.. interesting name. 'Chico.' I wonder who thought of that? It's pretty awful. Aaron Rodgers is from Chico. Does she know Aaron Rodgers? That would be pretty cool. I wonder where we're going? Shawntel's pretty normal. I like that. I also like oatmeal. It's warm and tastes good. Holy ####, we're at a mausoleum." It's a record-scratch moment. The guy gets out of the limo, and what.. he's supposed to be super-amped that he's at a funeral home? Did I mention that this scene was shot on Halloween? It wasn't revealed in the show, but it was, which I'm sure put Brad in the right mindset for this "date." Sure, at some point the guy has to see the family bidness.. I think we all get that. But, come on, man.
It becomes clear that Shawntel does this because of her overbearing father who is intent on enslaving her into the family profession. While she seems to go along with it willingly to some extent (it's all she really knows), you can tell there's a "cooped up in Yonkers" feel to this whole thing. This bird wants to fly. Maybe she's a little unsure of herself ("hey, I can embalm people in Austin!"), but she really wants to get the hell out of that little town. Brad is her meal ticket to make that happen. How can dad question love? Well, he can, and he does. I think the producers coaxed a "you have my blessing" out of him since it's standard Bachelor script, but you could tell he'd never willingly let Shawntel leave. This provided for one of the most awkward moments in Bachelor father-daughter time. It was so bad that they really should have turned off the cameras as you could tell these two had buried this issue for years without taking it head-on. It's not like it was going to resolve itself in 5 minutes on camera. It was around this moment when I honestly felt sorry for Shawntel. She's surprisingly grounded and well-adjusted, perhaps due to her exposure to matters of death at an early age, but dad runs that show 1000%, and it's a shame. Why he insists that she "carry on [his] work" is perplexing. It's not like this guy is the Michelangelo of embalming, unless Chico is the Florence of funeral direction and I'm completely off base. Apologies, Chico. That little guilt trip he threw at her about some family friend "needing" her services was just flat weird. If that's any indication, this guy has some serious issues. It's a miracle Shawntel is as seemingly normal as she is. The whole time I got a Trinity killer vibe a la Dexter. If you haven't seen the series, that's a damn shame. It's a spot-on reference, though. Full marks to me.
For as stunningly normal as Shawntel is, did she have to pull out the crazy big syringe? Did she have to have Brad lay on the metal table?
"And then I'd take out the scalpel..."
"No, don't..."
:giantheadshake: Oh how wrong that all was. She was gone about two minutes into this thing, and it kind of stuns me that she didn't realize it. Maybe she is an odd duck after all and will end up marrying that creepy kid from the other family that runs the funeral home. Ew.
Ashley
She took perky from around an 8 to a 52 on this date. I actually liked Ashley the most that I've liked her during this series, but even still, I'm not really feeling this. Brad and she are really very different. Most of the time he was just trying to cut the saccharine with some bitters. Most of these family deals are others imposing their will on you and you just taking it. Brad is semi-good at feigning interest and going with the flow, but you can read just below the surface that he hated just about every waking moment with Ashley's family. I think several members of her family wanted to marry him, and well, that just gets uncomfortable.
Brad's mastery of French was really something. ¡Sí! Ay, pobrecito. That little interlude of him explaining how he messed up saying "yes" was obviously pasted in well after the fact. I'm positive he had no idea the entire time he was there. :frenchfacepalm:
What you notice about Brad's descriptions of Ashley is how much he "fell for her" after their first date. Yeah, that happened sometime back in 2009 or so. That's all you've got? I suppose you can fool the women you're dating with that dreck, but the non-house fraus in the audience can spot the pattern. You really don't like this girl, do you Biff? That's okay, sometimes a bad team makes the Final Four, and then that team loses to Duke by 28. Ashley didn't really do anything wrong here, it's just going to be her turn to play the sacrificial lamb. There are no more Britts on the show, so he has to start cutting people he actually knows the names of.
Once she's free (and she will be), we can all take heart that Brad won't be getting in the way of Ashley anymore. She's nearly licensed to overcharge insurance companies for unnecessary bridgework. And I, for one, welcome our new pint-sized dental overlords.
Emily
Brr.. is there a draft in here? No, that's just the biting chill of li'l Ricki's (the "i" means "girl") disdain for strange men. To the daughter, Brad probably looks like an ogre. Maybe you could tone down the Brawny ad for a day and shave or something, huh tough guy? To his credit, he does his best to break the ice, but we're talking about five years of well-honed disappointment fostered by mom's inability to get past this tragedy. Ricki (aww) is, sadly, I think, an embodiment of that. The poor kid was sucking her thumb, and at five, that's really not a positive sign. You could tell right away that Emily does everything she can for her daughter, which is terrific and highly admirable, but it's also incongruous with being on a pulpy reality dating show. You have to lose at least five mom points on a ten point scale for that. We've come to believe that Emily feeds neighborhood bunnies and emanates her own natural lavender fragrance as she sweats, but I think we're finally seeming confirmation of the opportunist. It's not like she was forced to do this show. People seek this thing out like it's a gold rush. Hell, there's probably video of her pushing some poor woman down in line to the auditions. If my instincts are correct, Emily is going to be offered a role as The Bachelorette, and I think she's better than a coinflip to take it.
This hometown visit was the most like a date of all of them as Brad basically just spent time with Emily and Ricki. No huge family to deal with. That had to be a nice change of pace, but for some reason this little girl was like Brad kryptonite. It's pretty obvious this guy has rarely if ever had to deal with kids, and certainly he's never dated a parent. Hell, even when the kid was asleep, he got stage fright. "I'd better go." I don't know if he was on a schedule or what, but that was a pretty awful performance. I wasn't sure how Emily was going to handle it, but instead of crying (what my gut told me she'd do), she nearly laughed at him. He then said, "you're not buying it." Oh no.. she's not buying it, sport. Dr. Freud called to say, "nice slip," by the way. Emily's reaction told me that she's not exactly the shy little coquette. Not that she should be, but the façade was pretty much invisible at times. I say warm up the set for the next Bachelorette. We might have something here.
As Brad walked away impotent (figuratively, and most likely literally), I think he realized that he was never going to be able to solve Emily. She's sort of like a Gordian Knot, though I think he's making this a lot harder than it needs to be. The poor ******* just wanted to pick the prettiest girl and win the prize. Guess he'll have to settle for dumping the rich one.
As we head toward the finale, it's pretty obvious that there's really no ideal path here. Brad loves Emily, but she's a little too Advanced Dungeons & Dragons for his level 1 elf. He pretty much loathes Ashley, but needs some ballast. He likes Chantal's boobs but isn't sure if he wants to invest in the body attached to them. Maybe the money will help? Hell, worth a shot. The alternative is to vote none of the above, and that's not really good PR for selling Shiner Bock.
Revised odds:
Chantal: 2/5
Emily: 5/1
None: 8/1
Ashley: 30/1
Next Bachelorette odds:
Emily: 4/5
Shawntel: 3/1
Chantal(!): 15/1
Field: 20/1
Until next Monday...
Chantal
It's kind of unfair to host Brad in Seattle. Great city, tons to do, tons to see, and it turns out dear old dad is rich as ####. Oops! Looks like someone just leveled the playing field.
So.. how did she look? I'm reaching for the right words here, gentle reader, but "doughy" came to mind. What really struck me about Chantal was her personality. We usually see the Bachelor women make the rookie mistake of opening up too much on their home turf and acting exactly how they would if the guy isn't around. Chantal epitomized this. She was the freaking poster child. She was ebullient, effusive, loquacious, and myriad other words she doesn't know the meaning of. Before we even get to her Bachelorette Pad, Chantal is conducting herself like a five year old hopped up on Oreos and Capri Suns. While she's never really held her emotions in check (with all of the expertise of a high flow sieve), she's also never been this goofy and immature before. We've seen copious tears, but never the giddy school girl routine which I imagine is pretty much how she carries herself day-to-day. Throw in the new knowledge that dad has a few mil in the bank and, well, this is all starting to add up. Her biggest concern is probably when to bathe "Jinxie." I know.
It doesn't even matter what Chantal's house looks like. Sure it's nice and probably paid for, but it's nary a few blocks from dear ol' dad. Yes, friends, you can almost see the metaphorical umbilical cord winding through the neighborhood. We know that Chantal was married before, and we also have superficial proof that she grew as a person less than a typical college freshman over those ten-ish years. I won't speculate as to why, but something set her into a state of emotional hibernation, and what do you know: Brad was lucky enough to meet her during the thawing phase.
Dad's house is a palace. Let's just cut to the chase here. You could service an Airbus in that foyer. I'm sure dozens of talented artisans toiled several man-years for this glorious moment, and that's just how it ought to be, I think. It is a two hour show pulling a 9 share on a Monday. Forget about Chantal's transmogrification, which we've all documented. Suddenly she's looking like a 16 on a 10 point scale, especially with the other ladies revealing all kinds of special talents and hidden issues. Mom is your typical surgery-corrected trophy piece and seemed to be actively competing with her daughter for attention. Kind of cliché, ABC (Shayne Lamas, anyone?). Really, now. I guess we know that lipo is in the cards.
If you were just to assess this hometown "date" based on Chantal's actions, she would earn a solid D+. She did just about everything wrong save wet the bed, but it honestly didn't matter. The deck was stacked. If anyone should have gotten a rose, it would be Chantal's dad. That charming son of a ##### won Brad over. It only took a glass of wine. Probably a three buck Chuck, too.
Shawntel
Where to start. Well, if Chantal Oh gets a D+, I think we can rate this a healthy P-. WHAT. THE. HELL. WERE. YOU. THINKING. Look, if I'm Brad, I probably running through the following thoughts in the limo ride: "Chico.. interesting name. 'Chico.' I wonder who thought of that? It's pretty awful. Aaron Rodgers is from Chico. Does she know Aaron Rodgers? That would be pretty cool. I wonder where we're going? Shawntel's pretty normal. I like that. I also like oatmeal. It's warm and tastes good. Holy ####, we're at a mausoleum." It's a record-scratch moment. The guy gets out of the limo, and what.. he's supposed to be super-amped that he's at a funeral home? Did I mention that this scene was shot on Halloween? It wasn't revealed in the show, but it was, which I'm sure put Brad in the right mindset for this "date." Sure, at some point the guy has to see the family bidness.. I think we all get that. But, come on, man.
It becomes clear that Shawntel does this because of her overbearing father who is intent on enslaving her into the family profession. While she seems to go along with it willingly to some extent (it's all she really knows), you can tell there's a "cooped up in Yonkers" feel to this whole thing. This bird wants to fly. Maybe she's a little unsure of herself ("hey, I can embalm people in Austin!"), but she really wants to get the hell out of that little town. Brad is her meal ticket to make that happen. How can dad question love? Well, he can, and he does. I think the producers coaxed a "you have my blessing" out of him since it's standard Bachelor script, but you could tell he'd never willingly let Shawntel leave. This provided for one of the most awkward moments in Bachelor father-daughter time. It was so bad that they really should have turned off the cameras as you could tell these two had buried this issue for years without taking it head-on. It's not like it was going to resolve itself in 5 minutes on camera. It was around this moment when I honestly felt sorry for Shawntel. She's surprisingly grounded and well-adjusted, perhaps due to her exposure to matters of death at an early age, but dad runs that show 1000%, and it's a shame. Why he insists that she "carry on [his] work" is perplexing. It's not like this guy is the Michelangelo of embalming, unless Chico is the Florence of funeral direction and I'm completely off base. Apologies, Chico. That little guilt trip he threw at her about some family friend "needing" her services was just flat weird. If that's any indication, this guy has some serious issues. It's a miracle Shawntel is as seemingly normal as she is. The whole time I got a Trinity killer vibe a la Dexter. If you haven't seen the series, that's a damn shame. It's a spot-on reference, though. Full marks to me.
For as stunningly normal as Shawntel is, did she have to pull out the crazy big syringe? Did she have to have Brad lay on the metal table?
"And then I'd take out the scalpel..."
"No, don't..."
:giantheadshake: Oh how wrong that all was. She was gone about two minutes into this thing, and it kind of stuns me that she didn't realize it. Maybe she is an odd duck after all and will end up marrying that creepy kid from the other family that runs the funeral home. Ew.
Ashley
She took perky from around an 8 to a 52 on this date. I actually liked Ashley the most that I've liked her during this series, but even still, I'm not really feeling this. Brad and she are really very different. Most of the time he was just trying to cut the saccharine with some bitters. Most of these family deals are others imposing their will on you and you just taking it. Brad is semi-good at feigning interest and going with the flow, but you can read just below the surface that he hated just about every waking moment with Ashley's family. I think several members of her family wanted to marry him, and well, that just gets uncomfortable.
Brad's mastery of French was really something. ¡Sí! Ay, pobrecito. That little interlude of him explaining how he messed up saying "yes" was obviously pasted in well after the fact. I'm positive he had no idea the entire time he was there. :frenchfacepalm:
What you notice about Brad's descriptions of Ashley is how much he "fell for her" after their first date. Yeah, that happened sometime back in 2009 or so. That's all you've got? I suppose you can fool the women you're dating with that dreck, but the non-house fraus in the audience can spot the pattern. You really don't like this girl, do you Biff? That's okay, sometimes a bad team makes the Final Four, and then that team loses to Duke by 28. Ashley didn't really do anything wrong here, it's just going to be her turn to play the sacrificial lamb. There are no more Britts on the show, so he has to start cutting people he actually knows the names of.
Once she's free (and she will be), we can all take heart that Brad won't be getting in the way of Ashley anymore. She's nearly licensed to overcharge insurance companies for unnecessary bridgework. And I, for one, welcome our new pint-sized dental overlords.
Emily
Brr.. is there a draft in here? No, that's just the biting chill of li'l Ricki's (the "i" means "girl") disdain for strange men. To the daughter, Brad probably looks like an ogre. Maybe you could tone down the Brawny ad for a day and shave or something, huh tough guy? To his credit, he does his best to break the ice, but we're talking about five years of well-honed disappointment fostered by mom's inability to get past this tragedy. Ricki (aww) is, sadly, I think, an embodiment of that. The poor kid was sucking her thumb, and at five, that's really not a positive sign. You could tell right away that Emily does everything she can for her daughter, which is terrific and highly admirable, but it's also incongruous with being on a pulpy reality dating show. You have to lose at least five mom points on a ten point scale for that. We've come to believe that Emily feeds neighborhood bunnies and emanates her own natural lavender fragrance as she sweats, but I think we're finally seeming confirmation of the opportunist. It's not like she was forced to do this show. People seek this thing out like it's a gold rush. Hell, there's probably video of her pushing some poor woman down in line to the auditions. If my instincts are correct, Emily is going to be offered a role as The Bachelorette, and I think she's better than a coinflip to take it.
This hometown visit was the most like a date of all of them as Brad basically just spent time with Emily and Ricki. No huge family to deal with. That had to be a nice change of pace, but for some reason this little girl was like Brad kryptonite. It's pretty obvious this guy has rarely if ever had to deal with kids, and certainly he's never dated a parent. Hell, even when the kid was asleep, he got stage fright. "I'd better go." I don't know if he was on a schedule or what, but that was a pretty awful performance. I wasn't sure how Emily was going to handle it, but instead of crying (what my gut told me she'd do), she nearly laughed at him. He then said, "you're not buying it." Oh no.. she's not buying it, sport. Dr. Freud called to say, "nice slip," by the way. Emily's reaction told me that she's not exactly the shy little coquette. Not that she should be, but the façade was pretty much invisible at times. I say warm up the set for the next Bachelorette. We might have something here.
As Brad walked away impotent (figuratively, and most likely literally), I think he realized that he was never going to be able to solve Emily. She's sort of like a Gordian Knot, though I think he's making this a lot harder than it needs to be. The poor ******* just wanted to pick the prettiest girl and win the prize. Guess he'll have to settle for dumping the rich one.
As we head toward the finale, it's pretty obvious that there's really no ideal path here. Brad loves Emily, but she's a little too Advanced Dungeons & Dragons for his level 1 elf. He pretty much loathes Ashley, but needs some ballast. He likes Chantal's boobs but isn't sure if he wants to invest in the body attached to them. Maybe the money will help? Hell, worth a shot. The alternative is to vote none of the above, and that's not really good PR for selling Shiner Bock.
Revised odds:
Chantal: 2/5
Emily: 5/1
None: 8/1
Ashley: 30/1
Next Bachelorette odds:
Emily: 4/5
Shawntel: 3/1
Chantal(!): 15/1
Field: 20/1
Until next Monday...
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Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
JFC, are you ####### kidding me?! I'm almost forced to tune in next week for the review alone. Bravo.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
I am NOT kidding you.
honky kong
Footballguy
It is really a shame that this is buried in a thread that doesn't actually have anything to do with this particular season of a show that almost nobody on this board watches. It deserves not only its own thread, I think it would be a hit on its own website.
honky kong
Footballguy
While I think Shawntel is the favorite to be the next Bachelorette (out of these ladies, anyway), I think it would be more interesting if Chantel were. Not only would you have the emotional rollercoaster, think of all the fun trying to figure out which ones are just after Daddy's empire.
utofmychair:
Pabst Blue Ribbon
Footballguy
Tremendous review here, just a pleasure to read. I think Brad goes for Chantal and finds the daddy he never had in Big Mike. Having said that, Emily seemed a lot more frisky this time out, a strong showing by her during the overnight dates will cement it for her.
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Footballguy
This is Pickles' thread...we're just living in it.
ETA:
I was disappointed to see how terrible Shawntel came off last night. She was weird, her family was weird...just a trainwreck from the word "go." She was the only one who really seemed like a viable alternative to Emily before last night.
You could have put Chantal O. on a rotisserie with an apple in her mouth at the rose ceremony. Good grief. Did anyone else think it looked like they were on the set of "Bold and the Beautiful" at Chantal's parents' house? From dad's glistening white teeth and chest hair, to mom's cat-like botox, to the 40-foot dining table...wow.
Totally agree that Ashley's family was reminiscent of an SNL sketch. Super creepy. I think he likes Ashley more than you guys are giving credit for. Is it significant he gave her the first rose?
But he was definitely initiating the contact with her throughout the date.
"Little Ricki" is enough to put Emily to rest for me. I can't hear that without thinking of Desi Arnaz. Thumb-sucking...still? I'm convinced Brad wants nothing to do with a kid at this point. He keeps saying, "I really want that..." But he should tag onto that ..."in another 10 years." Why didn't Emily just lean over the couch and kiss the guy? Instead of acting awkward and fumbling with her words for 30 minutes, bail the guy out and kiss him. In his own neurotic, dysfunctional way he was trying to do the "right" thing. These two are just a mess together. It would take them 2 weeks to decide where to go eat on a Friday night.
I don't see him marrying any of these girls. This series may end with Brad's head exploding at the final rose ceremony.
ETA:
I was disappointed to see how terrible Shawntel came off last night. She was weird, her family was weird...just a trainwreck from the word "go." She was the only one who really seemed like a viable alternative to Emily before last night.
You could have put Chantal O. on a rotisserie with an apple in her mouth at the rose ceremony. Good grief. Did anyone else think it looked like they were on the set of "Bold and the Beautiful" at Chantal's parents' house? From dad's glistening white teeth and chest hair, to mom's cat-like botox, to the 40-foot dining table...wow.
Totally agree that Ashley's family was reminiscent of an SNL sketch. Super creepy. I think he likes Ashley more than you guys are giving credit for. Is it significant he gave her the first rose?
But he was definitely initiating the contact with her throughout the date."Little Ricki" is enough to put Emily to rest for me. I can't hear that without thinking of Desi Arnaz. Thumb-sucking...still? I'm convinced Brad wants nothing to do with a kid at this point. He keeps saying, "I really want that..." But he should tag onto that ..."in another 10 years." Why didn't Emily just lean over the couch and kiss the guy? Instead of acting awkward and fumbling with her words for 30 minutes, bail the guy out and kiss him. In his own neurotic, dysfunctional way he was trying to do the "right" thing. These two are just a mess together. It would take them 2 weeks to decide where to go eat on a Friday night.
I don't see him marrying any of these girls. This series may end with Brad's head exploding at the final rose ceremony.
honky kong
Footballguy
offdee
Footballguy
I enjoyed the way they setup the family one-on-one talks.
With Chantal O's family it was 2 chairs in the media room, 2 chairs in the fireplace room, and ending with some bonding in the 2,000 bottle wine cellar (oh hey, did you see the bronze statue!)
With Shawntel it was 2 beat up recliners in the parent's bedroom sitting below a bad drawing from Disney World of the kids
With Ashley it was 2 fold up campfire chairs below the stuffed deer head in the garage.
Also underrated was Shawntel's dad's moustache.
With Chantal O's family it was 2 chairs in the media room, 2 chairs in the fireplace room, and ending with some bonding in the 2,000 bottle wine cellar (oh hey, did you see the bronze statue!)
With Shawntel it was 2 beat up recliners in the parent's bedroom sitting below a bad drawing from Disney World of the kids
With Ashley it was 2 fold up campfire chairs below the stuffed deer head in the garage.
Also underrated was Shawntel's dad's moustache.
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fightingillini
Footballguy
It was painfully obvious that Shawntel was going home last night.
Is it me or did Chantal gain a few more pounds from last week? She looked a few months pregnant in that dress.
BTW, Pickles commentary was top notch
Is it me or did Chantal gain a few more pounds from last week? She looked a few months pregnant in that dress.
BTW, Pickles commentary was top notch
offdee
Footballguy
She looked absolutely horrible at the rose ceremony. Oof.
Third
Footballguy
:golfclap:
Thread Killer
Footballguy
OMG, Pickles... 
What kind of dog was Bocca? That fuzzball was cute as hell.
Chantal looked decent in black, but that red dress made her look like a giant Jolly Rancher. I still love her though.
What kind of dog was Bocca? That fuzzball was cute as hell.
Chantal looked decent in black, but that red dress made her look like a giant Jolly Rancher. I still love her though.
honky kong
Footballguy
Short-haired Pomeranian, I believe.
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
This thread just crossed over into a new level of gay ... and I like it.
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
I fell asleep during the rose ceremony and want to see Chantal wrapped up in the sausage casing. Pics?
honky kong
Footballguy
I'm gonna blame it on the new board.
Zow
Footballguy
I watched that scene with a 1.5 lbs. Yorkie wearing a pink heart shirt sitting on my lap. And I'm not ashamed. Or I have no shame. Now sure which it proves.
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