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Lennon's final interview the day he died, 12-8-80, appears to be incomplete (has parts 1, 2, 3 & 6), but includes about 95 minutes. AUDIO   



 
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The other thing to consider about the production quality of the Beatles later works is the limitations of the sound and recording equipment of the era. They only had use of four channels to record on tape, which had to be edited with a razor blade and spliced together. 

Compare that to today where the world had gone digital and there are an almost endless amount of channels to lay tracks on. Artists record and manipulate songs on laptops in their living rooms  

Now any number of effects can be added in after the fact. Back in the day, most everything had to be recorded the way you wanted it. 

 
"Magical Mystery Tour" is not an album in the same way as  "Sgt. Peppers". 

It was released in England as a six song soundtrack to the movie. Their American record company added four singles to fill it out. 

 
Probably cause MMT was not a proper album.  Capitol had twice tried the EP format in America with not-so-great results so they weren't thrilled with the idea of releasing a double EP of new material so they cobbled together an LP by adding the 1967 singles Hello Goodbye, All You Need is Love/Baby You're a Rich Man and Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane.

It was one of the few times that Capitol had the better idea cause the LP was a huge hit. The only negative to the LP is that some of the songs were in fake stereo but that didn't matter much in 67.

 
I think you can get into real murky waters trying to define what a "proper" album is. MMT has been around in the exact format it's in today for almost 50 years, which I think safely lands it as "canon". How it was put together doesn't really matter anymore, at least not to me. All of the songs are contemporaries of one another (unlike, say, Let It Be), if that matters.

 
I think pretty much all the UK versions of the Beatles albums through Let It Be  (recorded before Abbey Road but released after and last) are official and canonical, with the one exception of the US created Magical Mystery Tour. That is what you get with the Beatles Stereo or Mono Box Sets (latter doesn't have Yellow Submarine, Abbey Road or Let It Be, as those final three titles were never done in mono, which had been by far the more common mix when they began in the early '60s and extending through to their peak in the mid '60s). Of course, Capitol released their box sets, but I don't think they are canonical (they added/subtracted songs seemingly at whim, though I think saintsfan may have said Rubber Soul was the singular US version he either preferred or liked the most relative to its UK counterpart - some albums had completely different names). They also changed the sound and added reverb in some cases (since reverb was presumably already on many songs, sounds like that would be adding reverb on top of reverb)? I did recently get two Capitol titles, the soundtracks for their first two films, A Hard Days Night and Help. The US versions are the only way to get the SCORE as well as the soundtrack (some have no interest in the LATE George Martin score for Yellow Submarine, but I like it a lot, probably partly because I enjoy the film a lot, imo one of the '60s high-water marks for psychedelic animation). Martin also did the first one (AHDN), Help has some James Bond Theme-like material.     

 
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Uruk-Hai said:
I think you can get into real murky waters trying to define what a "proper" album is. MMT has been around in the exact format it's in today for almost 50 years, which I think safely lands it as "canon". How it was put together doesn't really matter anymore, at least not to me. All of the songs are contemporaries of one another (unlike, say, Let It Be), if that matters.
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Oh I agree but the Sgt Pepper LP was recorded as entity whereas Magical Mystery Tour wasn't.  In fact the first two songs recorded during the Sgt Pepper sessions were Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane but were released as a single.  

They really belong more to Pepper than MMT so strip them off and MMT really takes a hit.

But I understand what you are saying and if you just take them as they are (and as you pointed out have been for decades) then you could definitely argue the tracks on MMT are as good or better than those on Pepper.

 
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Oh I agree but the Sgt Pepper LP was recorded as entity whereas Magical Mystery Tour wasn't.  In fact the first two songs recorded during the Sgt Pepper sessions were Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane but were released as a single.  

They really belong more to Pepper than MMT so strip them off and MMT really takes a hit.

But I understand what you are saying and if you just take them as they are (and as you pointed out have been for decades) then you could definitely argue the tracks on MMT are as good or better than those on Pepper.
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Cool to see the old thread still breathing. 

I saw Glenn Frey (RIP) in New Orleans in a small theater in the early 90s. He said

i have time for one more song. This is my favorite band...

1-2-3-4....Well she was just 17

i thought about that when he died a few weeks back

 
Godsbrother said:
Oh I agree but the Sgt Pepper LP was recorded as entity whereas Magical Mystery Tour wasn't.  In fact the first two songs recorded during the Sgt Pepper sessions were Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane but were released as a single.  

They really belong more to Pepper than MMT so strip them off and MMT really takes a hit.

But I understand what you are saying and if you just take them as they are (and as you pointed out have been for decades) then you could definitely argue the tracks on MMT are as good or better than those on Pepper.
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I'm a weirdo but, in my head, MMT & Pepper have been together as a double album called "BEATLES '67"for at least 30 years. I've almost never played one without the other right behind it (or hitting random and bouncing between them), as all of those songs seem of a piece to me. 

On a larger, related note (& I'm not really talking about the Beatles here), I've come to despise the myth that albums are some conceptual whole in pop music (classical and, possibly, jazz are entirely different propositions). Yeah, for about 10 years many rock acts tried it. Most failed miserably (almost every art rock band ever and a metric ton of dope) and those that succeeded had to REALLY stretch it (DSOTM wouldn't have worked if not for Alan Parsons' genius). Mostly, it's boomer fantasy fed by Jann Wenner.

NONE of the Beatles albums are "concept" records. Those that are most celebrated as such like Sgt Pepper actually were pretty fragmented. I'd argue the truer representations of a true "concept" album are their earliest. THOSE records had unified sound-and-vision. Everything from the "Help" album on out were, while still collaborative, hodgepodges. Brilliant hodgepodges, granted, but stylistically all over the map.

 
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Uruk-Hai said:
I'm a weirdo but, in my head, MMT & Pepper have been together as a double album called "BEATLES '67"for at least 30 years. I've almost never played one without the other right behind it (or hitting random and bouncing between them), as all of those songs seem of a piece to me. 

On a larger, related note (& I'm not really talking about the Beatles here), I've come to despise the myth that albums are some conceptual whole in pop music (classical and, possibly, jazz are entirely different propositions). Yeah, for about 10 years many rock acts tried it. Most failed miserably (almost every art rock band ever and a metric ton of dope) and those that succeeded had to REALLY stretch it (DSOTM wouldn't have worked if not for Alan Parsons' genius). Mostly, it's boomer fantasy fed by Jann Wenner.

NONE of the Beatles albums are "concept" records. Those that are most celebrated as such like Sgt Pepper actually were pretty fragmented. I'd argue the truer representations of a true "concept" album are their earliest. THOSE records had unified sound-and-vision. Everything from the "Help" album on out were, while still collaborative, hodgepodges. Brilliant hodgepodges, granted, but stylistically all over the map.
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Yeah Pepper is the only one that could kind of be called a concept album, although it's really just the first song and the reprise that really tie it together.  

In in general concept albums suck. Certainly in the rock/pop world. 

 
Not sure if Pet Sounds was a concept album, either.

A theme that tied together Sgt. Pepper's was the conceit of an alter ego band with uniforms, but in actuality, the songs didn't have a whole lot tying them together - I suppose the titular track segued into Billy Shields and Ringo's vocal on With A Little Help From My Friends, but that was also somewhat tacked on and arbitrary.

Is The Who's Quadrophenia one of the first/only legit concept albums, or does that also fall into the same category as the above?

Pink Floyd's DSOM was probably one of the better concept albums, Wish You Were Here a few songs, Animals and certainly The Wall were thematically linked. Themed albums seemed to be a theme that ran through Waters lyrics and concepts from DSOM on. 

Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders of Mars by Bowie another one of the better examples.

2112 by Rush one side (not the whole album).

Lamb Lies Down On Broadway by Genesis (largely Peter Gabriel's vision) was ambitious.

I'm sure we could think of others, some good, but agree, most aren't even what they purport to be, or aren't very good.  

 
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Tommy, Quadrophenia, and The Wall were at least trying to tell complete stories, even if the narratives were a muddled mess sometimes (it often produced thrilling music, though). Some of the others had connections so vague as to be meaningless (pretention & dope can do that to a fella).

 
Rolling Stone put out their list of the top 10 books on the Beatles:

10 'The Beatles, Lennon and Me,' by Pete Shotton

09 'The Man Who Gave the Beatles Away,' by Allan Williams

08 'Here, There and Everywhere: My Life Recording the Beatles,' by Geoff Emerick

07 'Shout!: The Beatles in Their Generation,' by Philip Norman

06 'The Beatles: The Authorized Biography,' by Hunter Davies

05 'Lennon Remembers,' by Jann S. Wenner

04 'The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions,' by Mark Lewisohn

03 'The Love You Make: An Insider's Story of the Beatles,' by Peter Brown and Steven Gaines

02 'Revolution in the Head,' by Ian MacDonald

01 'Love Me Do! The Beatles' Progress,' by Michael Braun
 

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/10-best-beatles-books-20160504

I've read most of these but not their #1 pick so I'll have to give it a shot.    I don't have a problem with most of these but for me the top 2 are "Here, There and Everywhere" and "The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions" because I am most interested in the songs and how they were recorded.   I certainly prefer that to "Revolution in the Head" which has inaccuracies and is just one man's opinion.

Three books I thought should have made the list:

'Tune In: The Beatles - All These Years, Vol. 1' by Mark Lewisohn (the most exhaustive book written about the Beatles early years)
'The Beatles Anthology' by the Beatles (straight from the horse's mouth so to speak)
'The Playboy Interviews With John Lennon and Yoko Ono'  edited by David Sheff (Lennon's last interview taken days before he was murdered)

 
I didn't realize this thread existed.  Looking forward to reading it later.  The older I get the more I love the Beatles.  Their music is simple, so perfect.

 
So how popular are the Beatles still??  I still think they are enormously popular.  My cousin, who has differences of opinion with regards to music says that nobody listens to the Beatles anymore.  Zeppelin is the best band ever and people still love them.  He really has no concept of the full range of the Beatles catalogue as he keeps talking about "not enough bass" in their music, which tells me he's probably heard I Want To Hold Your Hand and She Loves You and maybe some of the earlier hits.  So he's speaking about stuff that he has no concept of.  He also doesn't like "vocal harmonies", whatever the hell that means.  He was also spouting off about Pearl Jam until I actually pointed out the Beatles outsold Pearl Jam at their commercial peak in the 90s.

Love Zeppelin.  I think Zeppelin is the Beatles of the hard rock genre, but IMO, the only period in which Zeppelin was perhaps more popular than the Beatles was in the 70s...maybe.  The amount of product the Beatles still move is astonishing when you consider they haven't been a band in 50 years.  I think I read somewhere that they were the still the top selling band in the world as late as the 2000's (1 was HUGE).  Anyway, what do you think?

 
- my daughter had a dozen or so of her friends (ages 9-12) over on Saturday ... when they started the Karaoke festivities, I asked if they could tackle some 'oldies' - every last one of them knew the Beatles, and they did a hell of a job on 'Hello, Goodbye' - 

really amped up my beer buzz  :banned:

 
otb_lifer said:
- my daughter had a dozen or so of her friends (ages 9-12) over on Saturday ... when they started the Karaoke festivities, I asked if they could tackle some 'oldies' - every last one of them knew the Beatles, and they did a hell of a job on 'Hello, Goodbye' - 

really amped up my beer buzz  :banned:
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Yeah.  I see the same subjective evidence.  I am a Youth Minister and at any given time, there are, at least, 2 or 3 kids that are huge Beatles fans.  Haven't run into many Zeppelin or Stones fans, but the Beatles seem to translate.  

I've also seen some stuff online that, for example Beatles 1 was STILL in the top 200 album charts in 2015.  Selling on average 1000 copies a week.  Of course, this is an album that is 15 years old and music that is almost 50 years old.  IMO, it has held up remarkably well.

 
Figured I'd put this in here, seemed the most appropriate.

Took in The Fab Faux back a few weeks ago at the Michigan Theater in Ann Arbor.  And, as always, was absolutely blown away.  It was like sitting for 3 hours in Abbey Road Studios and watching the Beatles work. These guys are as close to the real thing as you're ever going to see, live.  Ive seen a lot of the top Beatles tribute and cover bands (Beatlefest in Louisville every year when I lived there) and no one compares to these guys.  Will Lee, bassist from Dave Letterman's band leads the group. They just celebrated their 18th year of doing this.

They do not get caught up in costumes and such, they focus on the music, period.  They actually have studied each song meticulously and attempt to recreate as accurately as possible.  Each song requires a complete rearrangement of backup musicians and instruments, those that were actually used in each song.  I've seen them play most every album in their entirety (yep including Revolution 9 off the WA) and they never cease to amaze and deliver.  The setlist this year was "The Songs of the Beatles Movies" and a mix of other hits and it was Fab (hauled a harp out on stage for two numbers).

If they ever come to your neck of the woods, do not miss.

Setlist:
1.       A Hard Day's Night

2.       And I Love Herhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=And+I+Love+Her

3.       Dig a Ponyhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Dig+a+Pony

4.       I Me Minehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=I+Me+Mine

5.       One After 909http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=One+After+909

6.       Hey Bulldoghttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Hey+Bulldog

7.       Help!http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Help!

8.       Ticket to Ridehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Ticket+to+Ride

9.       You've Got to Hide Your Love Away

10.   Let It Behttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Let+It+Be

11.   The Long and Winding Roadhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=The+Long+and+Winding+Road

12.   Yellow Submarinehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Yellow+Submarine

13.   Get Backhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Get+Back

14.   Set 2:

15.   Oh! Darlinghttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Oh!+Darling

16.   I Saw Her Standing Therehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=I+Saw+Her+Standing+There

17.   While My Guitar Gently Weepshttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=While+My+Guitar+Gently+Weeps

18.   She's Leaving Home

19.   Penny Lanehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Penny+Lane

20.   Savoy Trufflehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Savoy+Truffle

21.   Come Togetherhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Come+Together

22.   Good Morning Good Morninghttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Good+Morning+Good+Morning

23.   Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)

24.   A Day in the Lifehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=A+Day+in+the+Life

25.   Encore:

26.   Twist and Shouthttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-top-notes-53d433dd.html?song=Twist+and+Shout
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fab_Faux

http://www.thefabfaux.com/

Fab Faux

 
BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
Figured I'd put this in here, seemed the most appropriate.

Took in The Fab Faux back a few weeks ago at the Michigan Theater in Ann Arbor.  And, as always, was absolutely blown away.  It was like sitting for 3 hours in Abbey Road Studios and watching the Beatles work. These guys are as close to the real thing as you're ever going to see, live.  Ive seen a lot of the top Beatles tribute and cover bands (Beatlefest in Louisville every year when I lived there) and no one compares to these guys.  Will Lee, bassist from Dave Letterman's band leads the group. They just celebrated their 18th year of doing this.

They do not get caught up in costumes and such, they focus on the music, period.  They actually have studied each song meticulously and attempt to recreate as accurately as possible.  Each song requires a complete rearrangement of backup musicians and instruments, those that were actually used in each song.  I've seen them play most every album in their entirety (yep including Revolution 9 off the WA) and they never cease to amaze and deliver.  The setlist this year was "The Songs of the Beatles Movies" and a mix of other hits and it was Fab (hauled a harp out on stage for two numbers).

If they ever come to your neck of the woods, do not miss.

Setlist:
1.       A Hard Day's Night

2.       And I Love Herhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=And+I+Love+Her

3.       Dig a Ponyhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Dig+a+Pony

4.       I Me Minehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=I+Me+Mine

5.       One After 909http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=One+After+909

6.       Hey Bulldoghttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Hey+Bulldog

7.       Help!http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Help!

8.       Ticket to Ridehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Ticket+to+Ride

9.       You've Got to Hide Your Love Away

10.   Let It Behttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Let+It+Be

11.   The Long and Winding Roadhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=The+Long+and+Winding+Road

12.   Yellow Submarinehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Yellow+Submarine

13.   Get Backhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Get+Back

14.   Set 2:

15.   Oh! Darlinghttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Oh!+Darling

16.   I Saw Her Standing Therehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=I+Saw+Her+Standing+There

17.   While My Guitar Gently Weepshttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=While+My+Guitar+Gently+Weeps

18.   She's Leaving Home

19.   Penny Lanehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Penny+Lane

20.   Savoy Trufflehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Savoy+Truffle

21.   Come Togetherhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Come+Together

22.   Good Morning Good Morninghttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Good+Morning+Good+Morning

23.   Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)

24.   A Day in the Lifehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=A+Day+in+the+Life

25.   Encore:

26.   Twist and Shouthttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-top-notes-53d433dd.html?song=Twist+and+Shout
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fab_Faux

http://www.thefabfaux.com/

Fab Faux
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Just listened to their version of "Hey Bulldog", one of my favorite Beatles song. Pretty damn good job. 

 
GilbertGrape said:
Just listened to their version of "Hey Bulldog", one of my favorite Beatles song. Pretty damn good job. 
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Will Lee roamed the entire audience, and I mean ENTIRE audience (upstairs, downstairs, in aisles, in rows...) during that song live.  Was incredible.

Best song of the night IMO, was While My Guitar Gently Weeps.  Guy playing lead on that was Jimmy Vivano, band director for Conan O'Brien's band.  Probably a 5 minute standing ovation on that one. not kidding. Incredible.

Should be able to find Jimmy playing it on their Youtube page if interested.

 
Pure McCartney released today, 6-10-16. A career spanning compilation including solo, Wings and The Fireman material. 

Available in three versions:

1) 4 CD 67 tracks housed in a book (like 25 tracks re-mastered and approx. five re-mixed)

2) 2 CD 39 tracks, conventional CD packaging (not sure if this comes with smaller booklet, or number of remastered tracks, same five remixes I think)

Both also available as downloads.

3) 4 LP Box Set

I think the first compilation for McCartney since the 2 CD Wingspan compilation in 2001, which had no music after 1985?  

* Non-essential for fanatics that already have everything (not much in the way of rarities), might be a good intro for a new fan, or supplement a collection with just a few of his albums.   

 
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Track Lists

'PURE McCARTNEY': 2CD – 39 tracks

DISC 1:
1. Maybe I'm Amazed
2. Heart Of The Country
3. Jet
4. Warm And Beautiful
5. Listen To What The Man Said
6. Dear Boy
7. Silly Love Songs
8. The Song We Were Singing
9. Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey
10. Another Day
11. Sing The Changes
12. Jenny Wren
13. Save Us
14. Mrs Vandebilt
15. Mull of Kintyre
16. Let ‘Em In
17. Let Me Roll It
18. Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five
19. Ebony and Ivory     
 
DISC 2:    
1. Band on the Run
2. Arrow Through Me
3. My Love
4. Live and Let Die
5. Too Much Rain
6. Goodnight Tonight
7. Say Say Say [2015 Remix]
8. My Valentine
9. The World Tonight
10. Pipes of Peace
11. Dance Tonight
12. Here Today
13. Wanderlust
14. Great Day
15. Coming Up
16. No More Lonely Nights
17. Only Mama Knows
18. With a Little Luck
19. Hope For The Future
20. Junk

'PURE McCARTNEY': 4CD – 67 tracks

DISC 1:    
1. Maybe I'm Amazed
2. Heart Of The Country
3. Jet
4. Warm And Beautiful
5. Listen To What The Man Said
6. Dear Boy
7.  Silly Love Songs
8. The Song We Were Singing
9. Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey
10. Early Days
11. Big Barn Bed
12. Another Day
13. Flaming Pie
14. Jenny Wren
15. Too Many People
16. Let Me Roll It
17. New
 
DISC 2:
1. Live and Let Die
2. English Tea
3. Mull of Kintyre
4. Save Us
5. My Love
6. Bip Bop
7. Let 'Em In
8. Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five
9. Calico Skies
10. Hi, Hi, Hi
11. Waterfalls
12. Band on the Run
13. Appreciate
14. Sing The Changes
15. Arrow Through Me
16. Every Night
17. Junior’s Farm
18. Mrs Vandebilt
 
DISC 3:    
1. Say Say Say [2015 Remix]
2. My Valentine
3. Pipes of Peace
4. The World Tonight
5. Souvenir
6. Dance Tonight
7. Ebony and Ivory
8. Fine Line
9. Here Today
10. Press
11. Wanderlust
12. Winedark Open Sea
13. Beautiful Night
14. Girlfriend
15. Queenie Eye
16. We All Stand Together
 
DISC 4:    
1. Coming Up
2. Too Much Rain
3. Good Times Coming / Feel the Sun
4. Goodnight Tonight
5. Baby’s Request
6. With a Little Luck
7. Little Willow
8. Only Mama Knows
9. Don’t Let it Bring You Down
10. The Back Seat Of My Car
11. No More Lonely Nights
12. Great Day
13. Venus and Mars / Rock Show
14. Temporary Secretary
15. Hope For The Future
16. Junk

 
That CD collection keeps popping up on my Facebook.  I have no idea how a career spanning retrospective has no songs from Flowers In The Dirt.  That was Maccas comeback album. My Brave Face, at the very least, should have been on there somewhere.  

 
Good question.

He has an ongoing deluxe/box set release schedule. I have McCartney & McCartney II, Ram and Band on the Run "boxes" (actually housed in book-type packaging), as well as multi-disc, bonus track versions of Wings Venus and Mars, Speed of Sound and Over America - there have been a few others I don't have, such as Pipes of Peace and Tug of War. Anyway, I think Flowers in the Dirt is on deck for later this year, so there has been speculation that, if he put a lot of songs from that album on THIS retrospective and compilation (which it sounds like it warrants and deserves, other considerations aside), it could cannibalize sales of THAT album box set.

* BTW, I had the 2 disc Wingspan from about a decade and a half ago, which as noted has no songs after '85 (I think?), so is heavier on his earlier body of work. The new 4 CD version is career spanning TO DATE, complementing the earlier greatest hits set. It sounds great, glad I got it, wish it had more rarities and collector-type material, and the book has some nice photos but no written material like on the deluxe box set releases - at all (other than song credits), let alone the expanded, book-length supplements like the others.  

The glaring omission you noted is I think the most oft-cited, near universal specific complaint with the set (as well as lack of rarities in general, also they could have squeezed in more songs - the four discs averaged between 65-70 minutes, I think they could have been close to 80 minutes each?). That said, there have been predictable individual and subjective differences of opinion on other track in/ex-clusion preferences, but that is seemingly inevitable in a body of work as sprawling and diverse as McCartney's (even restricted to POST-Beatles as this) with hundreds of songs and many eclectic styles to choose from.  

I knew he had a lot of hits and great songs, wasn't as familiar with his post-Wings and McCartney II material and body of work, so more than anything else, this was a reminder (and revelation even) of HOW MANY hits and great songs he has had, ever after his early solo years and the entire Wings run.       

 
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Figured I'd put this in here, seemed the most appropriate.

Took in The Fab Faux back a few weeks ago at the Michigan Theater in Ann Arbor.  And, as always, was absolutely blown away.  It was like sitting for 3 hours in Abbey Road Studios and watching the Beatles work. These guys are as close to the real thing as you're ever going to see, live.  Ive seen a lot of the top Beatles tribute and cover bands (Beatlefest in Louisville every year when I lived there) and no one compares to these guys.  Will Lee, bassist from Dave Letterman's band leads the group. They just celebrated their 18th year of doing this.

They do not get caught up in costumes and such, they focus on the music, period.  They actually have studied each song meticulously and attempt to recreate as accurately as possible.  Each song requires a complete rearrangement of backup musicians and instruments, those that were actually used in each song.  I've seen them play most every album in their entirety (yep including Revolution 9 off the WA) and they never cease to amaze and deliver.  The setlist this year was "The Songs of the Beatles Movies" and a mix of other hits and it was Fab (hauled a harp out on stage for two numbers).

If they ever come to your neck of the woods, do not miss.

Setlist:
1.       A Hard Day's Night

2.       And I Love Herhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=And+I+Love+Her

3.       Dig a Ponyhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Dig+a+Pony

4.       I Me Minehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=I+Me+Mine

5.       One After 909http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=One+After+909

6.       Hey Bulldoghttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Hey+Bulldog

7.       Help!http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Help!

8.       Ticket to Ridehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Ticket+to+Ride

9.       You've Got to Hide Your Love Away

10.   Let It Behttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Let+It+Be

11.   The Long and Winding Roadhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=The+Long+and+Winding+Road

12.   Yellow Submarinehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Yellow+Submarine

13.   Get Backhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Get+Back

14.   Set 2:

15.   Oh! Darlinghttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Oh!+Darling

16.   I Saw Her Standing Therehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=I+Saw+Her+Standing+There

17.   While My Guitar Gently Weepshttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=While+My+Guitar+Gently+Weeps

18.   She's Leaving Home

19.   Penny Lanehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Penny+Lane

20.   Savoy Trufflehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Savoy+Truffle

21.   Come Togetherhttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Come+Together

22.   Good Morning Good Morninghttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=Good+Morning+Good+Morning

23.   Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)

24.   A Day in the Lifehttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-beatles-23d6a88b.html?song=A+Day+in+the+Life

25.   Encore:

26.   Twist and Shouthttp://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/the-top-notes-53d433dd.html?song=Twist+and+Shout
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fab_Faux

http://www.thefabfaux.com/

Fab Faux
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Have you seen 'Rain'? I've been to several versions of Beatlemania and was never disappointed, but Rain was by far the best show I've seen as far as Beatles tributes go.

 
daddo39 said:
Have you seen 'Rain'? I've been to several versions of Beatlemania and was never disappointed, but Rain was by far the best show I've seen as far as Beatles tributes go.
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Yes. these guys are much better.  The musicianship and attention to detail within each song is the key.

 
Even The Beatles Got Scared: Paul McCartney Talks Early Days in Trailer for New Ron Howard Doc

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7453635/beatles-eight-days-a-week-ron-howard-doc-trailer-video

The Beatles to Release Shea Stadium Concert in Theaters With Ron Howard Film

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7453637/beatles-shea-stadium-concert-theaters-doc-trailer-video

The Beatles announced Thursday (July 28) that a 4K restoration of their celebrated performance at their Aug. 15, 1965, Shea Stadium concert with remastered sound will be added to the theater showings of the Ron Howard Eight Days A Week: The Beatles Touring Years documentary that will premiere Sept. 15.

The Shea concert, which was first shown in the U.S. on ABC-TV in 1967 as The Beatles At Shea Stadium TV special, had been shown in bits and pieces with upgraded footage in various Beatles projects including 1995's The Beatles Anthology, but hasn't been seen in complete form since the original TV broadcast other than on bootleg. Its re-release has long been a major desire of Beatles fans along with their live recordings from the Hollywood Bowl, which will finally come out Sept. 9, and the movie Let It Be on DVD, which is still in limbo.

The Shea Stadium concert was filmed by 14 35mm cameras in front of 55,000 people and first shown on BBC TV in black-and-white in the UK in 1966 and in color in the U.S. a year later. The film's new 4K restoration and sound remastering was done at Abbey Road Studios by Giles Martin and Sam Okell, who also worked on the recent 10th anniversary Beatles LOVE show at the Mirage Hotel in Las Vegas, the upcoming The Beatles: Live at the Hollywood Bowl CD and the Beatles 1+ DVD that came out late last year. The songs in the Shea concert include "Twist and Shout," "I Feel Fine," "She's a Woman" and a finale of "I'm Down" that featured John Lennon running his arm along the keyboard.

Leslie Healy, who attended the '65 show, remembers it as a wild night. "(It) was pretty amazing, a hot hot night in New York," she said in an interview. "I had to navigate the subway to Shea Stadium in Queens with a girlfriend. My folks actually let this 15-year-old go without them. They couldn't have withstood the noise.
 
"(There was a) big wait (until) Cousin Brucie and Ed Sullivan actually came out and the crowd was in a frenzy. The screams were deafening (and) I'm sure I added to them," she said. "You couldn't hear the songs. It was one roar of hysterical young ladies from the time they opened their mouths until their final chord. And the whole concert was over in about 33 minutes. Just a flash."

Dave Schwensen, author of The Beatles at Shea Stadium, a book focusing on the 1965 concert, says the release of the footage is big news. "From a fan's point of view, it's great, it's exciting. For all these years, we've had unofficial footage. I'd be very interested with today's technology how this stuff is going to look," he said. 

Schwenson, the author of another Beatles concert book, The Beatles in Cleveland on their concerts in that city, also said there was no footage of "She's a Woman" shot for the original show because cameramen were changing films, but he said he was told footage of the song has been located from home movies taken by fans in the stands for the Ron Howard film.
 
Ron Furmanek, who worked on the restoration of the film for the Beatles, said the quality of the Shea show is superb. "Shea Stadium, other than the sound issues, of everything that was ever shot in the '60s of any group, I think Shea Stadium is the highest quality film. It looks better than Woodstock, Gimme Shelter, Monterey Pop. It really does. Go look at it in Anthology. It's stunning. Put on the headphones and look at it in Anthology. You're going to hear some true stereo there, like 'Dizzy Miss Lizzy.'"
 
A new trailer for the Ron Howard film, which covers the Beatles' live concerts from their days at the Cavern Club in Liverpool through to 1966 at their final scheduled show at Candlestick Park in San Francisco, was also released Thursday. Fans who attended the Beatles concerts are also being given the chance to see the Ron Howard film free by visiting the film website.

The set list for the Shea Stadium show:

"Twist and Shout"
"She’s a Woman"
"I Feel Fine"
"Dizzy Miss Lizzy"
"Ticket to Ride"
"Everybody’s Trying To Be My Baby"
"Baby’s in Black"
"Act Naturally"
"A Hard Day’s Night"
"Help!"
"I'm Down"   

 
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saintsfan said:
That CD collection keeps popping up on my Facebook.  I have no idea how a career spanning retrospective has no songs from Flowers In The Dirt.  That was Maccas comeback album. My Brave Face, at the very least, should have been on there somewhere.  
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Definitely strange to not include any song from Flowers in the Dirt.   It really was a great LP and there are at least 6 songs on it I would have included over "Temporary Secretary", "Bip Bop", and a few others.

 
Now Available For Pre-Order: ‘The Beatles: Live At The Hollywood Bowl’ Album - To Be Released Worldwide on September 9th.

http://www.thebeatles.com/news/now-available-pre-order-‘-beatles-live-hollywood-bowl’-album-be-released-worldwide-september

Apple Corps Ltd. and Universal Music Group are pleased to announce global release plans for The Beatles: Live At The Hollywood Bowl, a new album that captures the joyous exuberance of the band’s three sold-out concerts at Los Angeles’ Hollywood Bowl in 1964 and 1965. A companion to The Beatles: Eight Days A Week - The Touring Years, Academy Award®-winner Ron Howard’s authorized and highly anticipated documentary feature film about the band’s early career, The Beatles: Live At The Hollywood Bowl will be released worldwide on CD and for digital download and streaming on September 9, followed by a 180-gram gatefold vinyl LP on November 18. The album includes a 24-page booklet with an essay by noted music journalist David Fricke, and its cover art features a sunny photo taken on August 22, 1964 by The Beatles’ then-U.S. tour manager, Bob Bonis, as John, Paul, George and Ringo boarded a chartered flight from Seattle Tacoma Airport to Vancouver, BC for their first concert in Canada.

Documenting The Beatles’ Hollywood Bowl concerts on tape was no easy feat, as producer Sir George Martin explained in his album notes for 1977’s The Beatles At The Hollywood Bowl:  “The chaos, I might almost say panic, that reigned at these concerts was unbelievable unless you were there. Only three track recording was possible; The Beatles had no ‘fold back’ speakers, so they could not hear what they were singing, and the eternal shriek from 17,000 healthy, young lungs made even a jet plane inaudible.”
 
While The Beatles: Live At The Hollywood Bowl references the long out of print 1977 album, it is an entirely new release, directly sourced from the original three track tapes of the concerts. To preserve the excitement of the shows while unveiling the performances in today’s best available clarity and quality, GRAMMY Award® winning producer Giles Martin and GRAMMY Award® winning engineer Sam Okell have expertly remixed and mastered the recordings at Abbey Road Studios, including the thirteen tracks from the original album produced by Giles’ father, plus four additional, previously unreleased recordings from the momentous concerts.
 
“A few years ago Capitol Studios called saying they’d discovered some Hollywood Bowl three track tapes in their archive,” says Giles Martin. “We transferred them and noticed an improvement over the tapes we’ve kept in the London archive. Alongside this I’d been working for some time with a team headed by technical engineer James Clarke on demix technology, the ability to remove and separate sounds from a single track. With Sam Okell, I started work on remixing the Hollywood Bowl tapes. Technology has moved on since my father worked on the material all those years ago. Now there’s improved clarity, and so the immediacy and visceral excitement can be heard like never before. My father’s words still ring true, but what we hear now is the raw energy of four lads playing together to a crowd that loved them. This is the closest you can get to being at the Hollywood Bowl at the height of Beatlemania. We hope you enjoy the show…”
 
Featuring rare and exclusive footage, Ron Howard’s The Beatles: Eight Days A Week - The Touring Years is based on the first part of The Beatles’ career (1962-1966) – the period in which they toured and captured the world’s acclaim. The film is produced with the full cooperation of Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Yoko Ono Lennon and Olivia Harrison. The Beatles: Eight Days A Week - The Touring Years touches on the band’s Hollywood Bowl concerts and includes footage of the “Boys” performance featured on The Beatles: Live At The Hollywood Bowl.
 
White Horse Pictures’ GRAMMY Award®-winning Nigel Sinclair, Scott Pascucci, and Academy Award® and Emmy Award®-winner Brian Grazer of Imagine Entertainment are producing with Howard. Apple Corps Ltd.’s Jeff Jones and Jonathan Clyde are serving as executive producers, along with Imagine’s Michael Rosenberg and White Horse’s Guy East and Nicholas Ferrall.
 
Following a world premiere event in London on September 15, the film will roll out theatrically worldwide with release dates set in the U.K., France and Germany (September 15); the U.S., Australia and New Zealand (September 16); and Japan (September 22). In the U.S., Hulu is the presenting partner for Abramorama’s theatrical release of the film, which will be available to stream exclusively to Hulu subscribers beginning September 17. Studiocanal and PolyGram Entertainment are also anchor partners on the film, having acquired U.K., France, Germany and Australia and New Zealand rights. For more information about the film, visit www.thebeatleseightdaysaweek.com.
 
The Beatles: Live At The Hollywood Bowl
1. Twist and Shout                               [30 August, 1965]
2. She’s A Woman                               [30 August, 1965]
3. Dizzy Miss Lizzy                              [30 August, 1965 / 29 August, 1965 - one edit]
4. Ticket To Ride                                 [29 August, 1965]       
5. Can’t Buy Me Love                          [30 August, 1965]
6. Things We Said Today                    [23 August, 1964]
7. Roll Over Beethoven                       [23 August, 1964]
8. Boys                                                 [23 August, 1964]
9. A Hard Day’s Night                           [30 August, 1965]
10. Help!                                              [29 August, 1965]       
11. All My Loving                                [23 August, 1964]
12. She Loves You                              [23 August, 1964]
13. Long Tall Sally                              [23 August, 1964]
14. You Can’t Do That                         [23 August, 1964 - previously unreleased]
15. I Want To Hold Your Hand             [23 August, 1964 - previously unreleased]
16. Everybody’s Trying To Be My Baby           [30 August, 1965 - previously unreleased]
17. Baby’s In Black                              [30 August, 1965 - previously unreleased]

 
The Beatles’ ‘Revolver’ Turns 50: A Psychedelic Masterpiece That Rewrote the Rules of Rock


‘Revolver’ is the sound of a band brimming with curiosity, confident in its ideas and delivering uncalculated greatness. Rock listened, and never looked back.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/05/the-beatles-revolver-turns-50-a-psychedelic-masterpiece-that-rewrote-the-rules-of-rock.html


Celebrating 'Revolver': Beatles' First On-Purpose Masterpiece


How 1966 album showcased band at its cocky creative peak

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/celebrating-revolver-beatles-first-on-purpose-masterpiece-w432935

* The Beatles' 'Revolver' Turns 50: Classic Track-by-Track Rundown

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7461767/beatles-revolver-album-anniversary

 
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Bob Magaw said:
Beatles press release on the upcoming Ron Howard doc about the Touring Years 

http://thebeatlesliveproject.com/




 
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I can't wait to see this.  

Beatlemania was not just a phenomenon. It was the catalyst for a cultural shift that would alter the way people around the world viewed and consumed popular culture. This film will seek to explain what it was about that particular moment in time that allowed this cultural pivot point to occur.

 
Binky The Doormat said:
I can't wait to see this.  

Beatlemania was not just a phenomenon. It was the catalyst for a cultural shift that would alter the way people around the world viewed and consumed popular culture. This film will seek to explain what it was about that particular moment in time that allowed this cultural pivot point to occur.
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Opens 9/16 in the US, with a 4K restoration of the Shea Stadium Concert that was a bonus if you bought the Beatles Stereo Box digital version. Could be a very limited theatrical release (1-2 weeks, if that?), hoping to see this on the big screen. Premiers on Hulu 9/17. Blu-ray/DVD expected sometime before Christmas. "Companion", cross-promotion tie-in album Hollywood Bowl CD out 9/9/16. Rough album with a lot of screaming when it came out, interested to see what Giles Martin (worked on the 1 video compilation) can do in the way of audio magic with modern studio and engineering tools on the original multi-track tapes his father worked on in the earlier '77 album release (never officially released on CD?).  

Hollywood Bowl '64 (VIDEO 24 minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8qbwI976SE    

 
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Bob Magaw said:
The Beatles’ ‘Revolver’ Turns 50: A Psychedelic Masterpiece That Rewrote the Rules of Rock


‘Revolver’ is the sound of a band brimming with curiosity, confident in its ideas and delivering uncalculated greatness. Rock listened, and never looked back.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/05/the-beatles-revolver-turns-50-a-psychedelic-masterpiece-that-rewrote-the-rules-of-rock.html


Celebrating 'Revolver': Beatles' First On-Purpose Masterpiece


How 1966 album showcased band at its cocky creative peak

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/celebrating-revolver-beatles-first-on-purpose-masterpiece-w432935

* The Beatles' 'Revolver' Turns 50: Classic Track-by-Track Rundown

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7461767/beatles-revolver-album-anniversary
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Revolver is their best album.

 
Day Tripper from their last concert in San Francisco (aside from the Apple roof-top concert)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7SoyudcmS0

Apple roof-top concert - Don't Let Me Down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCtzkaL2t_Y

Shea Stadium intro/excerpt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6DfG7sml-Q

Shea Stadium concert details

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles_at_Shea_Stadium

The Beatles at Shea Stadium is a fifty-minute-long documentary of The Beatles' August 15, 1965, concert at Shea Stadium in New York City, the highlight of the group's 1965 tour. The documentary was produced by Ed Sullivan (under his Sullivan Productions, Inc. banner), NEMS Enterprises Ltd. (which owns the 1965 copyright), and the Beatles company Subafilms Ltd. The project, placed under the direction of manager of production operations M. Clay Adams, was filmed by a large crew led by cinematographer Andrew Laszlo. Fourteen cameras were used to capture the euphoria and mass hysteria that was Beatlemania in America in 1965. The documentary first aired on BBC1 on March 1, 1966.[1] In West Germany, it aired on August 2, 1966.[2] It aired in the United States on ABC on January 10, 1967.


History


The film captures not only the concert, the attendance of which was 55,600,[5] the largest Beatles concert up to that time, but also the events leading up to the concert, including the Beatles' helicopter ride from Manhattan to Flushing Meadows, their preparation in the dressing room (i.e., the visiting baseball team's locker) at Shea Stadium, and clips from the show's other acts, including Motown singer Brenda Holloway ("I Can't Help Myself (Sugar Pie Honey Bunch)"), King Curtis ("Soul Twist"), Sounds Incorporated ("Fingertips"), and Killer Joe Piro and The Discothèque Dancers ("It's Not Unusual", "Downtown", "Can't Buy Me Love"), managed by Jerry Weintraub, Murray the K, Neil Aspinall, Nat Weiss, with his step son Shaun Weiss, Mal Evans, Brian Epstein, and announcer Cousin Brucie Morrow are also featured. Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were also in attendance.[6]Marvin Gaye was introduced but did not perform.[7]Cannibal and the Headhunters also performed but were not featured in the documentary. The concert had been presented by promoter Sid Bernstein. Television host Ed Sullivan introduced the band when they took the stage: "Now, ladies and gentlemen, honored by their country, decorated by their Queen, and loved here in America, here are The Beatles!"

The film is not a completely accurate representation of the actual concert performance. The songs "She's a Woman" and "Everybody's Trying to Be My Baby" are omitted from the film due to time and likely camera reel change issues (audio of the latter song was released on The Beatles Anthology Volume 2 CD). The audio for the songs that remained went through a heavy post-production process as well. Some songs were treated with overdubs, or even re-recorded entirely, by The Beatles at London's CTS Studios on January 5, 1966, to cover audio problems throughout the concert recording. In addition, the audio for "Twist and Shout" comes from a show at the Hollywood Bowl later on the same tour, and the audio for "Act Naturally" was simply replaced by the studio version of the song (released on the Help! LP in Britain and on the B-side of "Yesterday" in the US), sped up slightly and poorly edited to sync up to the film.

Although the film has not been officially available on DVD or VHS (except via a 1978 release by Media Home Entertainment that was successfully sued by Northern Songs),[8] it has been widely available on the bootleg circuit for decades, including in a "raw audio" form that restores the original Shea Stadium audio track.




 




A thirty minute reissue of the footage of the actual concert will be remastered and released simultaneously with the release of the Ron Howard film The Beatles: Eight Days a Week in September 2016.

 
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