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The Case Against Global-Warming Skepticism (1 Viewer)

^ There's 5-6 inches of snow on the ground, and it's only 20 degrees here today. And we had the shortest amount of daylight we've had in 12 months this week...not to mention it officially becoming Winter a few hours ago. So much for global warming/climate change. :rolleyes:

"Real" scientists get it wrong sometimes (not in this case, but humor me). But I'll put my trust in them far more than I will the fake/pseudo-scientists (pastors/priests/sheep) ...no question. Bible never said that evolution is a lie. Bible doesn't say that man cannot have a horribly negative, adverse impact on our planet/climate. Etc., etc. But I'll bet you timschochet only starting 10 threads/day in 2014 vs. the 20 he starts now (lol) that a few of our Conservative friends in the FFA can quote you chapter and verse where it does. Even though it doesn't...but when have we let that stop a good rant/bashing/agenda in the past?!

 
^ There's 5-6 inches of snow on the ground, and it's only 20 degrees here today. And we had the shortest amount of daylight we've had in 12 months this week...not to mention it officially becoming Winter a few hours ago. So much for global warming/climate change. :rolleyes:

"Real" scientists get it wrong sometimes (not in this case, but humor me). But I'll put my trust in them far more than I will the fake/pseudo-scientists (pastors/priests/sheep) ...no question. Bible never said that evolution is a lie. Bible doesn't say that man cannot have a horribly negative, adverse impact on our planet/climate. Etc., etc. But I'll bet you timschochet only starting 10 threads/day in 2014 vs. the 20 he starts now (lol) that a few of our Conservative friends in the FFA can quote you chapter and verse where it does. Even though it doesn't...but when have we let that stop a good rant/bashing/agenda in the past?!
Your ramblings are barely comprehensible.

 
timschochet said:
DiStefano said:
Dr Oadi said:
But, but, but...Ya gotta believe!
No you have to study the PERTINENT facts, ignore the pseudo science, and pay attention to real scientists rather that right wing talk show hosts
Is the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change a right wing talk show host? At the very least the Global Warming is man-made people should take a step back, if they are honest. The two biggest things from a report that has claimed gloom and doom for years--

(1) IPCC’s admission that global warming has occurred much slower than IPCC previously forecast and (2) IPCC is unable to explain the ongoing plateau in global temperatures. IPCC computer models have predicted twice as much warming as has occurred in the real world, and virtually none of the IPCC computer models can replicate or account for the recent lack of global warming.

As for the 17 year pause in global warming, i will leave you with the words head of this over a 1,000 scientist panel -- Hans von Storch (not a right-wing talk show host)

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“So far, no one has been able to provide a compelling answer to why climate change seems to be taking a break,” von Storch told der Spiegel in a June 2013 interview. Storch said the IPCC will have tone down its climate models unless warming quickly and rapidly accelerates ”According to most climate models, we should have seen temperatures rise by around 0.25 degrees Celsius (0.45 degrees Fahrenheit) over the past 10 years. That hasn’t happened. In fact, the increase over the last 15 years was just 0.06 degrees Celsius (0.11 degrees Fahrenheit) — a value very close to zero,” Storch told der Spiegel. “This is a serious scientific problem that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) will have to confront when it presents its next Assessment Report late next year.”

“At my institute, we analyzed how often such a 15-year stagnation in global warming occurred in the simulations. The answer was: in under 2 percent of all the times we ran the simulation. In other words, over 98 percent of forecasts show CO2 emissions as high as we have had in recent years leading to more of a temperature increase,” Storch explained.

If the best scientist in the world are confused, maybe it is not set science yet. Perhps you can believe in global warming AND believe man has very little to do with it.

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
You don't see the humor, or irony, of a bunch of global-warming loving scientists stuck in ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there? And then the ship that rescued them is now also stuck in the ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there?

Or how the global-warming scientists "who hate fossil fuels take a trip to the Antarctic to show just how horrible fossil-fueled climate change is, then need rescue from their fossil-fueled trip by other fossil-fueled ships and helicopters, which still can’t rescue them"?

And how that could put a serious questions in your case for global warming?

 
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Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
You don't see the humor, or irony, of a bunch of global-warming loving scientists stuck in ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there? And then the ship that rescued them is now also stuck in the ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there?

Or how the global-warming scientists "who hate fossil fuels take a trip to the Antarctic to show just how horrible fossil-fueled climate change is, then need rescue from their fossil-fueled trip by other fossil-fueled ships and helicopters, which still can’t rescue them"?

And how that could put a serious questions in your case for global warming?
The answer is no to all of your questions. And what you don't get is that these scientists don't "hate fossil fuels"- they are performing tests to see if their theories are correct. That's what scientists do. Global warming is a well established theory- in scientific terms, meaning that it's not really subject to doubt. At this point in time in fact, there are only 3 groups of people who doubt global warming:

1. Right wing talk show hosts.

2. A small minority of scientists, usually without expertise on climate issues, who are heavily paid by oil and coal companies.

3. Members of the public who are conservative, such as yourself, mostly American, who don't understand the science, don't understand the difference between climate and weather, and who prefer to remain ignorant.

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
You don't see the humor, or irony, of a bunch of global-warming loving scientists stuck in ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there? And then the ship that rescued them is now also stuck in the ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there?

Or how the global-warming scientists "who hate fossil fuels take a trip to the Antarctic to show just how horrible fossil-fueled climate change is, then need rescue from their fossil-fueled trip by other fossil-fueled ships and helicopters, which still can’t rescue them"?

And how that could put a serious questions in your case for global warming?
I don't think it proves much one way or the other, but it's funny.

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
You don't see the humor, or irony, of a bunch of global-warming loving scientists stuck in ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there? And then the ship that rescued them is now also stuck in the ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there?

Or how the global-warming scientists "who hate fossil fuels take a trip to the Antarctic to show just how horrible fossil-fueled climate change is, then need rescue from their fossil-fueled trip by other fossil-fueled ships and helicopters, which still cant rescue them"?

And how that could put a serious questions in your case for global warming?
The answer is no to all of your questions. And what you don't get is that these scientists don't "hate fossil fuels"- they are performing tests to see if their theories are correct. That's what scientists do. Global warming is a well established theory- in scientific terms, meaning that it's not really subject to doubt. At this point in time in fact, there are only 3 groups of people who doubt global warming:1. Right wing talk show hosts.

2. A small minority of scientists, usually without expertise on climate issues, who are heavily paid by oil and coal companies.

3. Members of the public who are conservative, such as yourself, mostly American, who don't understand the science, don't understand the difference between climate and weather, and who prefer to remain ignorant.
I personally believe in climate change. It's obvious man is altering the environment.

But your above statements are a bit silly and extremely condescending. There are actually smart people who DO understand science that don't believe in global warming and they aren't all being paid by oil companies.

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
You don't see the humor, or irony, of a bunch of global-warming loving scientists stuck in ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there? And then the ship that rescued them is now also stuck in the ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there?

Or how the global-warming scientists "who hate fossil fuels take a trip to the Antarctic to show just how horrible fossil-fueled climate change is, then need rescue from their fossil-fueled trip by other fossil-fueled ships and helicopters, which still can’t rescue them"?

And how that could put a serious questions in your case for global warming?
The answer is no to all of your questions. And what you don't get is that these scientists don't "hate fossil fuels"- they are performing tests to see if their theories are correct. That's what scientists do. Global warming is a well established theory- in scientific terms, meaning that it's not really subject to doubt. At this point in time in fact, there are only 3 groups of people who doubt global warming:

1. Right wing talk show hosts.

2. A small minority of scientists, usually without expertise on climate issues, who are heavily paid by oil and coal companies.

3. Members of the public who are conservative, such as yourself, mostly American, who don't understand the science, don't understand the difference between climate and weather, and who prefer to remain ignorant.
Poor, Tim. Always trying so hard but never getting it right. I'll give you an "A" for effort, though.

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
You don't see the humor, or irony, of a bunch of global-warming loving scientists stuck in ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there? And then the ship that rescued them is now also stuck in the ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there?

Or how the global-warming scientists "who hate fossil fuels take a trip to the Antarctic to show just how horrible fossil-fueled climate change is, then need rescue from their fossil-fueled trip by other fossil-fueled ships and helicopters, which still cant rescue them"?

And how that could put a serious questions in your case for global warming?
The answer is no to all of your questions. And what you don't get is that these scientists don't "hate fossil fuels"- they are performing tests to see if their theories are correct. That's what scientists do. Global warming is a well established theory- in scientific terms, meaning that it's not really subject to doubt. At this point in time in fact, there are only 3 groups of people who doubt global warming:1. Right wing talk show hosts.

2. A small minority of scientists, usually without expertise on climate issues, who are heavily paid by oil and coal companies.

3. Members of the public who are conservative, such as yourself, mostly American, who don't understand the science, don't understand the difference between climate and weather, and who prefer to remain ignorant.
I personally believe in climate change. It's obvious man is altering the environment.

But your above statements are a bit silly and extremely condescending. There are actually smart people who DO understand science that don't believe in global warming and they aren't all being paid by oil companies.
Not enough to make my statement false. Remember that all of these scientists are subject to peer review- which means the closest scrutiny possible and endless testing to confirm the results.. And something like 90-95% of them accept this theory.

At this point not accepting climate change is akin to not accepting the theory of evolution.

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
You don't see the humor, or irony, of a bunch of global-warming loving scientists stuck in ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there? And then the ship that rescued them is now also stuck in the ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there?

Or how the global-warming scientists "who hate fossil fuels take a trip to the Antarctic to show just how horrible fossil-fueled climate change is, then need rescue from their fossil-fueled trip by other fossil-fueled ships and helicopters, which still cant rescue them"?

And how that could put a serious questions in your case for global warming?
The answer is no to all of your questions. And what you don't get is that these scientists don't "hate fossil fuels"- they are performing tests to see if their theories are correct. That's what scientists do. Global warming is a well established theory- in scientific terms, meaning that it's not really subject to doubt. At this point in time in fact, there are only 3 groups of people who doubt global warming:1. Right wing talk show hosts.

2. A small minority of scientists, usually without expertise on climate issues, who are heavily paid by oil and coal companies.

3. Members of the public who are conservative, such as yourself, mostly American, who don't understand the science, don't understand the difference between climate and weather, and who prefer to remain ignorant.
I personally believe in climate change. It's obvious man is altering the environment.

But your above statements are a bit silly and extremely condescending. There are actually smart people who DO understand science that don't believe in global warming and they aren't all being paid by oil companies.
Not enough to make my statement false. Remember that all of these scientists are subject to peer review- which means the closest scrutiny possible and endless testing to confirm the results.. And something like 90-95% of them accept this theory.

At this point not accepting climate change is akin to not accepting the theory of evolution.
That's a huge load of :bs: right there.

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
You don't see the humor, or irony, of a bunch of global-warming loving scientists stuck in ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there? And then the ship that rescued them is now also stuck in the ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there?

Or how the global-warming scientists "who hate fossil fuels take a trip to the Antarctic to show just how horrible fossil-fueled climate change is, then need rescue from their fossil-fueled trip by other fossil-fueled ships and helicopters, which still cant rescue them"?

And how that could put a serious questions in your case for global warming?
The answer is no to all of your questions. And what you don't get is that these scientists don't "hate fossil fuels"- they are performing tests to see if their theories are correct. That's what scientists do. Global warming is a well established theory- in scientific terms, meaning that it's not really subject to doubt. At this point in time in fact, there are only 3 groups of people who doubt global warming:1. Right wing talk show hosts.

2. A small minority of scientists, usually without expertise on climate issues, who are heavily paid by oil and coal companies.

3. Members of the public who are conservative, such as yourself, mostly American, who don't understand the science, don't understand the difference between climate and weather, and who prefer to remain ignorant.
I personally believe in climate change. It's obvious man is altering the environment.

But your above statements are a bit silly and extremely condescending. There are actually smart people who DO understand science that don't believe in global warming and they aren't all being paid by oil companies.
Not enough to make my statement false. Remember that all of these scientists are subject to peer review- which means the closest scrutiny possible and endless testing to confirm the results.. And something like 90-95% of them accept this theory.

At this point not accepting climate change is akin to not accepting the theory of evolution.
That's a huge load of :bs: right there.
One of the things about true science is that it can accurately predict results. The landscape is strewn with the wreckage of global warming predictions which have failed to come to pass. I happen to believe that increasing CO2 will have a warming effect. I also believe that most of the predictions that scientists have made about global warming are absolute junk. But Timmy obviously believes that we had 10 million climate refugees in 2010, because it is just like evolution, and because the scientists predicted it. And I am a believer in evolution.

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
You don't see the humor, or irony, of a bunch of global-warming loving scientists stuck in ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there? And then the ship that rescued them is now also stuck in the ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there?

Or how the global-warming scientists "who hate fossil fuels take a trip to the Antarctic to show just how horrible fossil-fueled climate change is, then need rescue from their fossil-fueled trip by other fossil-fueled ships and helicopters, which still cant rescue them"?

And how that could put a serious questions in your case for global warming?
The answer is no to all of your questions. And what you don't get is that these scientists don't "hate fossil fuels"- they are performing tests to see if their theories are correct. That's what scientists do. Global warming is a well established theory- in scientific terms, meaning that it's not really subject to doubt. At this point in time in fact, there are only 3 groups of people who doubt global warming:1. Right wing talk show hosts.

2. A small minority of scientists, usually without expertise on climate issues, who are heavily paid by oil and coal companies.

3. Members of the public who are conservative, such as yourself, mostly American, who don't understand the science, don't understand the difference between climate and weather, and who prefer to remain ignorant.
I personally believe in climate change. It's obvious man is altering the environment.

But your above statements are a bit silly and extremely condescending. There are actually smart people who DO understand science that don't believe in global warming and they aren't all being paid by oil companies.
Not enough to make my statement false. Remember that all of these scientists are subject to peer review- which means the closest scrutiny possible and endless testing to confirm the results.. And something like 90-95% of them accept this theory.

At this point not accepting climate change is akin to not accepting the theory of evolution.
That's a huge load of :bs: right there.
One of the things about true science is that it can accurately predict results. The landscape is strewn with the wreckage of global warming predictions which have failed to come to pass. I happen to believe that increasing CO2 will have a warming effect. I also believe that most of the predictions that scientists have made about global warming are absolute junk. But Timmy obviously believes that we had 10 million climate refugees in 2010, because it is just like evolution, and because the scientists predicted it. And I am a believer in evolution.
What happens when a hypothesis is rejected? Can you explain to the class how this still strengthens the scientific Theory overall?

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
Maybe their science is a little off. No, not possible. :rolleyes:
I'll ask you the same, when science or a hypothesis is a "little off", how does science handle that? In fact, when something doesn't go right, how does that actually improve the science?

Are you under some impression that an individual event, or group of several individual events, that don't "fit" end up hurting a Theory?

 
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FACT: November 2013 was the warmest November worldwide in recorded history.

FACT: November 2013 was the 345th consecutive month with global temps above the 20th Century average. The last cooler than average month worldwide was February 1985.

I find data like these much more compelling than a boat stuck in the ice or a cold kickoff for an NFL playoff game.

I will post the National Climatic Data Center's 2013 annual review when it become available on January 14. Through November, 2013 had been the fourth warmest year in recorded history.

Currently, 9 of the 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 2002.

I don't understand why global warming is a conservative vs. liberal issue. In fact, conservatives pride themselves on being unemotional, clear-eyed rationalists who make decisions based on data, not feelings. But for some reason, data seems to take a back seat to emotion on this issue. I really don't get it - is it just reflexive anti-environmentalism? Or unyielding support for fossil fuel companies?

 
FACT: November 2013 was the warmest November worldwide in recorded history.

FACT: November 2013 was the 345th consecutive month with global temps above the 20th Century average. The last cooler than average month worldwide was February 1985.

I find data like these much more compelling than a boat stuck in the ice or a cold kickoff for an NFL playoff game.

I will post the National Climatic Data Center's 2013 annual review when it become available on January 14. Through November, 2013 had been the fourth warmest year in recorded history.

Currently, 9 of the 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 2002.

I don't understand why global warming is a conservative vs. liberal issue. In fact, conservatives pride themselves on being unemotional, clear-eyed rationalists who make decisions based on data, not feelings. But for some reason, data seems to take a back seat to emotion on this issue. I really don't get it - is it just reflexive anti-environmentalism? Or unyielding support for fossil fuel companies?
It is truly stunning to me as well. And very frustrating.
 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
You don't see the humor, or irony, of a bunch of global-warming loving scientists stuck in ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there? And then the ship that rescued them is now also stuck in the ice-that-wasn't-supposed-to-be-there?

Or how the global-warming scientists "who hate fossil fuels take a trip to the Antarctic to show just how horrible fossil-fueled climate change is, then need rescue from their fossil-fueled trip by other fossil-fueled ships and helicopters, which still cant rescue them"?

And how that could put a serious questions in your case for global warming?
The answer is no to all of your questions. And what you don't get is that these scientists don't "hate fossil fuels"- they are performing tests to see if their theories are correct. That's what scientists do. Global warming is a well established theory- in scientific terms, meaning that it's not really subject to doubt. At this point in time in fact, there are only 3 groups of people who doubt global warming:1. Right wing talk show hosts.

2. A small minority of scientists, usually without expertise on climate issues, who are heavily paid by oil and coal companies.

3. Members of the public who are conservative, such as yourself, mostly American, who don't understand the science, don't understand the difference between climate and weather, and who prefer to remain ignorant.
I personally believe in climate change. It's obvious man is altering the environment.But your above statements are a bit silly and extremely condescending. There are actually smart people who DO understand science that don't believe in global warming and they aren't all being paid by oil companies.
Not enough to make my statement false. Remember that all of these scientists are subject to peer review- which means the closest scrutiny possible and endless testing to confirm the results.. And something like 90-95% of them accept this theory.At this point not accepting climate change is akin to not accepting the theory of evolution.
That's a huge load of :bs: right there.
One of the things about true science is that it can accurately predict results. The landscape is strewn with the wreckage of global warming predictions which have failed to come to pass. I happen to believe that increasing CO2 will have a warming effect. I also believe that most of the predictions that scientists have made about global warming are absolute junk. But Timmy obviously believes that we had 10 million climate refugees in 2010, because it is just like evolution, and because the scientists predicted it. And I am a believer in evolution.
Most predictions are "absolute junk"? Where do you get this from? Are you actually reading the peer-reviewed data, or some right wing interpretation of it?
 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
Maybe their science is a little off. No, not possible. :rolleyes:
If their science was a little off they would tell you. That's what peer review is all about. There is no other profession that scrutinizes its own work as carefully as scientists do, and is so willing to self criticize. Of all of the crazy right wing claims about this subject, the charge that the vast majority of scientists are somehow in cahoots with each other and willing to skew information for a political purpose is by far the most laughable.

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
Maybe their science is a little off. No, not possible. :rolleyes:
I'll ask you the same, when science or a hypothesis is a "little off", how does science handle that? In fact, when something doesn't go right, how does that actually improve the science?

Are you under some impression that an individual event, or group of several individual events, that don't "fit" end up hurting a Theory?
Right. :shrug:

 
I've now seen about a dozen stories covering this on the news. Not one mention of what the scientists were doing. Very strange.
interesting...supposedly, organizations interested in profit ignoring an obviously ironic and humorous angle to a story that might capture an audience chuckle...weird...

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
Maybe their science is a little off. No, not possible. :rolleyes:
I'll ask you the same, when science or a hypothesis is a "little off", how does science handle that? In fact, when something doesn't go right, how does that actually improve the science?

Are you under some impression that an individual event, or group of several individual events, that don't "fit" end up hurting a Theory?
you modify the hypothesis and run anoither experiment. Per the IPCC linked above, they are are still working on a new hypothesis/model that can replicate the plateau...

 
Supposed to be the coldest game in NFL history tomorrow. So much for this theory.
c'mon, this is as bad as when guys like Andrew Cuomo blame the latest hurricane on AGW. It's a stupid argument.
Hurricanes happen all of the time. This is historic cold.
Climate change! Colder or hotter doesn't matter it's mans fault!
Well now I'm taking this seriously. I don't mind women taking off more clothes in the summer, but it's a real problem if we're causing this sort of weather.

 
Dr. J, you're too bright for this. To begin with, you must know that climate and weather are not the same thing, right? And that however cold it is in a certain place, that has nothing to do with whether the earth's temperature as a whole is rising, right? Please tell me you understand this.

 
Supposed to be the coldest game in NFL history tomorrow. So much for this theory.
c'mon, this is as bad as when guys like Andrew Cuomo blame the latest hurricane on AGW. It's a stupid argument.
Hurricanes happen all of the time. This is historic cold.
Climate change! Colder or hotter doesn't matter it's mans fault!
its fun to mock science isn't it?
:thumbup: Especially when it's bad science!

 
Supposed to be the coldest game in NFL history tomorrow. So much for this theory.
c'mon, this is as bad as when guys like Andrew Cuomo blame the latest hurricane on AGW. It's a stupid argument.
Hurricanes happen all of the time. This is historic cold.
Climate change! Colder or hotter doesn't matter it's mans fault!
its fun to mock science isn't it?
:thumbup: Especially when it's bad science!
You're like a flat earther. Seriously I'd be embarrassed to think such stuff, much less proclaim it to the world.
 
Supposed to be the coldest game in NFL history tomorrow. So much for this theory.
c'mon, this is as bad as when guys like Andrew Cuomo blame the latest hurricane on AGW. It's a stupid argument.
Hurricanes happen all of the time. This is historic cold.
Climate change! Colder or hotter doesn't matter it's mans fault!
its fun to mock science isn't it?
:thumbup: Especially when it's bad science!
You're like a flat earther. Seriously I'd be embarrassed to think such stuff, much less proclaim it to the world.

"You don't believe in the same things I do so you're stupid!"
Fixed that for you. Pretty much what every post of yours is saying. If you could just keep it this short every time I'd appreciate it.

 
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Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
Maybe their science is a little off. No, not possible. :rolleyes:
I'll ask you the same, when science or a hypothesis is a "little off", how does science handle that? In fact, when something doesn't go right, how does that actually improve the science?

Are you under some impression that an individual event, or group of several individual events, that don't "fit" end up hurting a Theory?
When 78 out of 78 model runs over predict the actual and in most cases very significantly, it is really ####### stupid to go around proclaiming the 'science is settled'.

 
Deniers are gleeful this week because a group of scientists were caught in the ice of Antarctica- that PROVES there is no global warming!

Seriously, these guys are really embarrassing.
Maybe their science is a little off. No, not possible. :rolleyes:
I'll ask you the same, when science or a hypothesis is a "little off", how does science handle that? In fact, when something doesn't go right, how does that actually improve the science?

Are you under some impression that an individual event, or group of several individual events, that don't "fit" end up hurting a Theory?
When 78 out of 78 model runs over predict the actual and in most cases very significantly, it is really ####### stupid to go around proclaiming the 'science is settled'.
That's what I like about the scientific method; if the theory says one thing and the experiment says another, the theory is wrong.

http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2012/05/11/richard-feynman-key-to-science/

 
People do realize the planet is bigger than their local area, right?

For example, Australia is currently in the grips of a record-setting heat wave.
I used to think a lot of people in the FFA were just bits/trolls when it comes to this issue. But the longer moronic comments go on about how "it's cold this week...so much for global warming," the more I believe that NO, people do not realize that the planet is bigger than their local area.

 
People do realize the planet is bigger than their local area, right?

For example, Australia is currently in the grips of a record-setting heat wave.
I used to think a lot of people in the FFA were just bits/trolls when it comes to this issue. But the longer moronic comments go on about how "it's cold this week...so much for global warming," the more I believe that NO, people do not realize that the planet is bigger than their local area.
What was it you believed about frisbee golf again?

 
People do realize the planet is bigger than their local area, right?

For example, Australia is currently in the grips of a record-setting heat wave.
I used to think a lot of people in the FFA were just bits/trolls when it comes to this issue. But the longer moronic comments go on about how "it's cold this week...so much for global warming," the more I believe that NO, people do not realize that the planet is bigger than their local area.
What was it you believed about frisbee golf again?
Better than anything on Earth, "relations with females" included. Or as I refer to disc golf with my friends and family: "Crack." :P

 

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