The Chris Johnson Hype machine (1 Viewer)

[Chunky Soup]

We don't know yet how Johnson will fare... I'm just saying when you look at his carries, 82% were for 2-3 yards.

Oh my Lord the haters have made this thread nearly unreadable. "82% of his carries were for 2-3 yards?" Are you serious?

It's preseason, guy.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Portis went 7 carries for 18 yards with a long of 11. Is he going to average 2-3 YPC, etc? No. Or at least we wouldn't deduce this about him for some reason.

Stop that. We know Portis is a big time running back in the NFL. What a bad comparison

Yes, it was a very bad example. We know what Portis can do already... we don't know what Johnson can do. Portis was also running in the first quarter versus first stringers in a vanilla offense. Portis also is known for not really trying much in the preseason.Johnson broke his big run in the second quarter versus second stringers who were out of position. And Johnson is obviously tryign to impress his team.

We'll see as the preseason goes by, but we know Portis isn't completely dependent on big plays to put up points. We don't know yet how Johnson will fare... I'm just saying when you look at his carries, 82% were for 2-3 yards.

Portis doesn't try? Riight. And was he going up against all starters? What happened two years ago when Portis "wasn't trying". Broken collar bone because he's trying too hard down?

I how you're saying this means everything for CJ, saying he's a 2-3 carry guy, when it means nothing for Portis. The point is that trends from preseason likely won't happen in the season. Again, what we did learn is CJs sick potential at the NFL level.

 

[shader]

I'm the biggest Chris Johnson fan yet. Why?

1. The Titans have a top-5 defense (just wait) and he's torched them all pre-season

2. He had one of the best acceleration times at the combine in combine history (he gets to full speed very, very quickly..and his full speed is top 5 in the NFL)

3. If Jeff Fisher can figure out how to run the ball 50 times a game and throw it 15 and still score 25 points, he'll do it.

4. The safety in his 66-yard TD run HAD THE ANGLE ON HIM and runs a 4.36 and Johnson smoked him.

5. When opposing players and defenders are saying things like "he's the fastest guy we've ever seen", that can only be a good thing.

6. The Titans are hiding him! They ran him right up the middle about 6 times and threw him one screen. They wanted to get him into game speed, but didn't want to "show much". Even while hiding him, he took it 66 yards. You can kind of see the smirk on the OC's face after the TD, as even when hiding him, he's still dominating.

I just gave up Ray Rice, an 09 1st rounder and Chris Chambers for CJ. 99% of people would say that was dumb. But CJ can be a HOF-type player. He's got once-a-decade acceleration and speed, and it's not just track speed, it's football speed.

I expect him to have 2,000 yards from scrimmage this year and will be mildly surprised if he DOESN'T get that.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I'm the biggest Chris Johnson fan yet. Why?

1. The Titans have a top-5 defense (just wait) and he's torched them all pre-season

2. He had one of the best acceleration times at the combine in combine history (he gets to full speed very, very quickly..and his full speed is top 5 in the NFL)

3. If Jeff Fisher can figure out how to run the ball 50 times a game and throw it 15 and still score 25 points, he'll do it.

4. The safety in his 66-yard TD run HAD THE ANGLE ON HIM and runs a 4.36 and Johnson smoked him.

5. When opposing players and defenders are saying things like "he's the fastest guy we've ever seen", that can only be a good thing.

6. The Titans are hiding him! They ran him right up the middle about 6 times and threw him one screen. They wanted to get him into game speed, but didn't want to "show much". Even while hiding him, he took it 66 yards. You can kind of see the smirk on the OC's face after the TD, as even when hiding him, he's still dominating.

I just gave up Ray Rice, an 09 1st rounder and Chris Chambers for CJ. 99% of people would say that was dumb. But CJ can be a HOF-type player. He's got once-a-decade acceleration and speed, and it's not just track speed, it's football speed.

I expect him to have 2,000 yards from scrimmage this year and will be mildly surprised if he DOESN'T get that.

That's a great trade.

 

[shader]

I'm the biggest Chris Johnson fan yet. Why?

1. The Titans have a top-5 defense (just wait) and he's torched them all pre-season

2. He had one of the best acceleration times at the combine in combine history (he gets to full speed very, very quickly..and his full speed is top 5 in the NFL)

3. If Jeff Fisher can figure out how to run the ball 50 times a game and throw it 15 and still score 25 points, he'll do it.

4. The safety in his 66-yard TD run HAD THE ANGLE ON HIM and runs a 4.36 and Johnson smoked him.

5. When opposing players and defenders are saying things like "he's the fastest guy we've ever seen", that can only be a good thing.

6. The Titans are hiding him! They ran him right up the middle about 6 times and threw him one screen. They wanted to get him into game speed, but didn't want to "show much". Even while hiding him, he took it 66 yards. You can kind of see the smirk on the OC's face after the TD, as even when hiding him, he's still dominating.

I just gave up Ray Rice, an 09 1st rounder and Chris Chambers for CJ. 99% of people would say that was dumb. But CJ can be a HOF-type player. He's got once-a-decade acceleration and speed, and it's not just track speed, it's football speed.

I expect him to have 2,000 yards from scrimmage this year and will be mildly surprised if he DOESN'T get that.

That's a great trade.

It's a PPR league..though it's a half-point per reception..It's still annoying to have to give that up though. I was two spots away from CJ in the draft, but couldn't swing a deal then.

 

[Supdawg]

About Cj's other carries. He really had no chance on any of them. No one can avoid getting tackled for no gain when the defenders are in your grille. This is the NFL after all. He was really close to breaking containment on that screen pass. He knew it too. He got up and smashed the ball in his hands. He had one person to beat, and he would have been gone for a TD there as well.

There is 0 doubt in my mind he will be the OROY this year. The only question is can he stay healthy. I think he can. He obviously has a very strong work ethic, and I don't expect him to get over 225 carries. He is excellent at not allowing defenders to square up on him and give good licks. He has a chip on his shoulder for all of the disrespect the media has given him and the Titans for picking him in the first round. After the game, he was asked about how did it feel, and he said he wanted to prove to the world that the Titans didnt make a mistake drafting him in the 1st.

He is as talented as LT IMO. It remains to be seen whether he can be that type of RB, but he has all of the tools.

My draft is this weekend, I will draft him 2nd round if he is not already gone.

2200 AP yards this year.

 

[TwinTurbo]

I like what I've seen so far from Chris Johnson. He has intoxicating speed but unlike Michael Bennett he also has the moves to go with it and he also runs mean. The problem is that he's small. We can argue about BMI all day but you can tell just by looking at him that he's too small. But the reviews from camp are that this guy is nearly impossible to line up and hit. If he is as good at avoiding big hits as he is fast, then he can be a RB1 in this league. Most home run guys have that extra gear but his extra gear gets turned on as soon as he hits the second level. He's so fluid that his speed seems muted until you see that defender's great angle turn into a bad angle in an instant and you realize how fast he's running. I really like what he's shown so far. He's one guy I'll be rooting for this season.

 

[Markus P Dub]

I don't really want to read through 8 pages, but could someone post his size for me? Thanks

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I don't really want to read through 8 pages, but could someone post his size for me? Thanks

71.0", 200#, 27.9 BMI

 

[fun-b]

If Chris Johnson had come from the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-10 or any big BCS conference, people would be drooling to get this guy.

He's simply overlooked because he played at ECU and "Sportscenter" (I absolutely hate Sportscenter) didn't give him any love.

What if McFadden played at ECU and C. Johnson played at Arkansas?

Maybe CJ was a late bloomer and overlooked by scouts coming out of high school. Very likely. I don't know his history though.

 

[fun-b]

I don't really want to read through 8 pages, but could someone post his size for me? Thanks

71.0", 200#, 27.9 BMI

NOOOOOOOO. Don't get the BMI going again. Please.

 

[Stealthycat]

big league I'm in (16 teams, salary based, 16 roster slots) I traded Chris Johnson and Lee Evans for TO - I had Barber III and E Graham and needed another stud WR to go with Fitzgerald.

I might have made a mistake

but how oftern do rookie RB's get 2000 combined yards ?

how often do rookie RB's even get 1000 combined yards ?

I love the hype, love the potential it's just not realistic to expect it from a rookie RB

is it ?

 

[Avery]

big league I'm in (16 teams, salary based, 16 roster slots) I traded Chris Johnson and Lee Evans for TO - I had Barber III and E Graham and needed another stud WR to go with Fitzgerald.I might have made a mistakebut how oftern do rookie RB's get 2000 combined yards ? how often do rookie RB's even get 1000 combined yards ? I love the hype, love the potential it's just not realistic to expect it from a rookie RBis it ?

I don't know your starting requirements but I think you made a big mistake counting an Graham. Graham is a mediocre talent while Johnson is something different and talent rises to the top.

 

[simey]

Maybe CJ was a late bloomer and overlooked by scouts coming out of high school. Very likely. I don't know his history though.

Here is a little bit about his high school background:

Coming out of high school Johnson was rated among the top 100 players in state of Florida by Super-Prep Magazine. Chris Johnson is also a weight room warrior, he recorded prep power numbers of 265 (clean-lift) and 315 (bench-press) and was timed at 10.62 in the 100-meter sprint. He ran the anchor leg on fastest 4x100 relay team in the nation and won the Golden South and Golden West national titles in track.

Here is about how he ended up at ECU:

Coming out of school, my grades weren’t where they were supposed to be at the time. Eventually, I got my grades up to where they were supposed to be. Then when I got my grades up, East Carolina were the only ones that sat there and stuck by me. I kept it loyal and went to East Carolina.

This is what he said when asked about playing WR coming out of high school...

That is nothing but a rumor when they say I came out as a receiver. When I came out, I came out as a running back and that is another reason that helped me choose East Carolina, because Connecticut wanted me to play cornerback, and a couple other schools said I was a receiver. They were giving me a chance at East Carolina to play running back. My junior year when I was hurt, I was moved around to the slot to do some screens and stuff at running back. I feel I have great hands so I feel I will do well at the next level.

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but the Titans new running backs coach Earnest Byner, played RB at East Carolina.

 

[RBM]

He is as talented as LT IMO.

Relax big guy

 

[fun-b]

Maybe CJ was a late bloomer and overlooked by scouts coming out of high school. Very likely. I don't know his history though.

Here is a little bit about his high school background:

Coming out of high school Johnson was rated among the top 100 players in state of Florida by Super-Prep Magazine. Chris Johnson is also a weight room warrior, he recorded prep power numbers of 265 (clean-lift) and 315 (bench-press) and was timed at 10.62 in the 100-meter sprint. He ran the anchor leg on fastest 4x100 relay team in the nation and won the Golden South and Golden West national titles in track.

Here is about how he ended up at ECU:

Coming out of school, my grades weren’t where they were supposed to be at the time. Eventually, I got my grades up to where they were supposed to be. Then when I got my grades up, East Carolina were the only ones that sat there and stuck by me. I kept it loyal and went to East Carolina.

This is what he said when asked about playing WR coming out of high school...

That is nothing but a rumor when they say I came out as a receiver. When I came out, I came out as a running back and that is another reason that helped me choose East Carolina, because Connecticut wanted me to play cornerback, and a couple other schools said I was a receiver. They were giving me a chance at East Carolina to play running back. My junior year when I was hurt, I was moved around to the slot to do some screens and stuff at running back. I feel I have great hands so I feel I will do well at the next level.

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but the Titans new running backs coach Earnest Byner, played RB at East Carolina.

Thank you.

 

[RBM]

I expect him to have 2,000 yards from scrimmage this year and will be mildly surprised if he DOESN'T get that.

Have we ever seen hype like this about a rookie?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I'm the biggest Chris Johnson fan yet. Why?

1. The Titans have a top-5 defense (just wait) and he's torched them all pre-season

2. He had one of the best acceleration times at the combine in combine history (he gets to full speed very, very quickly..and his full speed is top 5 in the NFL)

3. If Jeff Fisher can figure out how to run the ball 50 times a game and throw it 15 and still score 25 points, he'll do it.

4. The safety in his 66-yard TD run HAD THE ANGLE ON HIM and runs a 4.36 and Johnson smoked him.

5. When opposing players and defenders are saying things like "he's the fastest guy we've ever seen", that can only be a good thing.

6. The Titans are hiding him! They ran him right up the middle about 6 times and threw him one screen. They wanted to get him into game speed, but didn't want to "show much". Even while hiding him, he took it 66 yards. You can kind of see the smirk on the OC's face after the TD, as even when hiding him, he's still dominating.

I just gave up Ray Rice, an 09 1st rounder and Chris Chambers for CJ. 99% of people would say that was dumb. But CJ can be a HOF-type player. He's got once-a-decade acceleration and speed, and it's not just track speed, it's football speed.

I expect him to have 2,000 yards from scrimmage this year and will be mildly surprised if he DOESN'T get that.

That's a great trade.

I bet the other guy couldn't click "accept" fast enough.

 

[noneother]

in a 200 dollar auction league, I was considering taking him to about 25 dollars... now... the crazies will drive to to the 40s easy...

i'll stay away

 

[Chunky Soup]

I'm the biggest Chris Johnson fan yet. Why?

1. The Titans have a top-5 defense (just wait) and he's torched them all pre-season

2. He had one of the best acceleration times at the combine in combine history (he gets to full speed very, very quickly..and his full speed is top 5 in the NFL)

3. If Jeff Fisher can figure out how to run the ball 50 times a game and throw it 15 and still score 25 points, he'll do it.

4. The safety in his 66-yard TD run HAD THE ANGLE ON HIM and runs a 4.36 and Johnson smoked him.

5. When opposing players and defenders are saying things like "he's the fastest guy we've ever seen", that can only be a good thing.

6. The Titans are hiding him! They ran him right up the middle about 6 times and threw him one screen. They wanted to get him into game speed, but didn't want to "show much". Even while hiding him, he took it 66 yards. You can kind of see the smirk on the OC's face after the TD, as even when hiding him, he's still dominating.

I just gave up Ray Rice, an 09 1st rounder and Chris Chambers for CJ. 99% of people would say that was dumb. But CJ can be a HOF-type player. He's got once-a-decade acceleration and speed, and it's not just track speed, it's football speed.

I expect him to have 2,000 yards from scrimmage this year and will be mildly surprised if he DOESN'T get that.

That's a great trade.

I bet the other guy couldn't click "accept" fast enough.

I have a feeling Shader and Supdawg are trying to inflate his value for some reason...

 

[gump]

Where are people seeing him go in drafts now?

I've done 2 today at ffc...still got him in the 11th in both.

 

[FBGPoker]

He has intoxicating speed.

I can vouch for this. I've replaced drinking with watching CJ run and get a similar buzz.I agree with those expecting 2k+ all purpose yards this season. The guy has 0 competition for carries and has potential to average 6+ yards a carry.325 carries/2031 yards rushing/14 TDs, not to mention what he's gonna throw up receiving.BMI be damned, Barry Sanders part deux with receiving ability.4.24, there aren't any defenders in the NFL who will be able to catch him. Were looking at a once in a lifetime talent.

 

[switz]

1. You can't take out his big run and only count his others. It's like taking a QB's completions away and complaining that all his incompletions averaged 0 yards per attempt. Just plain stupid. Take the good and the bad, all yards and TDs count.

Don't think anyone is trying to eliminate that run, but looking at ALL his runs to determine how successful he will be during the regular season. The problem is if he's not successful regularly, he's going to be limited to gimmicky type plays, and then once defenses figure the gimmick plays out, he's not going to be very successful at all.Bottom line is, he's probably not going to break a 66 yard TD every week, with two safeties out of position, and a wide open hole to run through. So then if on most weeks he can only average 2-3 YPC, are you going to start him? See Reggie Bush a la 2006 and 2007 if you can't see what I'm talking about.

Now I'm of the opinion Bush can turn it around this year, but I also think Bush > Johnson.

That hole wasnt that wide open, he stutteed stepped while the seam opened at the line of scrimmage, then accelarated to top speed through the hole blowing by the LB's. The safeties were out of position because they didnt have any time to react. Like him or not, over 90% of the RB's in the league dont run for 66 yards on that play. Felix Jones definetly doesnt....just saying.

I could care less whether Felix Jones could or not... but to say the safeties were out of position because they didn't have time to react is laughable. They overreacted to the sweep. It didn't matter if Johnson ran a 4.3 or 4.5 he had nobody challenging him on that run.Again, as I've said all along, I'm not saying he sucks. I think he'll be a great COP back. I just don't see him being successful as a full time starter. His speed is only good if he can break a tackle at the line and get through it when there isn't a hole. Something he has yet to show in the NFL. Not saying he can't do it... just that a lot of people are overreacting to his 66 yard run, and ignoring his lackluster performance on the other carries.

Not picking on either of you but they are both really fast and both showed good moves and ran away from defenders. Could they both be really good? Does one of them have to suck? Just saying it doesn't have to be a either/or situation. Chris having success does not mean Felix is not going to be just as good or the other way around.

I agree with this, and have posted as much earlier (#152). My opinion on Chris Johnson has zip, nada, nothing to do with Felix Jones.It's based on watching him play in college, camp reports, and the preseason game. I've said time and again that he will be exciting to watch, but that his role will be limited since he probably cannot be an every down runner.

People arguing with me seem to think "can't be an every down runner" = "stinks" but that's not the case. Earlier I compared him to Eric Metcalf, who had multiple 1000 yard plus seasons as a role player. Johnson will likely find his success in the NFL in the same way, a hybrid WR/RB who gets 500 rush yards, and 500 rec yards with 4-6 TDs. That's still pretty darn good.

 

[switz]

He has intoxicating speed.

I can vouch for this. I've replaced drinking with watching CJ run and get a similar buzz.I agree with those expecting 2k+ all purpose yards this season. The guy has 0 competition for carries and has potential to average 6+ yards a carry.

325 carries/2031 yards rushing/14 TDs, not to mention what he's gonna throw up receiving.

BMI be damned, Barry Sanders part deux with receiving ability.

4.24, there aren't any defenders in the NFL who will be able to catch him. Were looking at a once in a lifetime talent.

Come on... these are the types of posts that elicit He does have competition for carries in the form of a bruising back who had 1000 yards last season. There is no way Johnson gets even 40% of the carries.

 

[flooredyas]

Where are people seeing him go in drafts now?I've done 2 today at ffc...still got him in the 11th in both.

Same site-different results. Mocking from the 2 hole in 12 teamers I have found that in 1/2 the mocks recently (about 10) I either take him at pick 7 or I don't get him. I fear 1 more big run and he jumps more. I have him in a dynasty (Rookie-11/16) and am lovin it. If you pick toward end of the draft-8+, you may get him in the 8th. When I waited till the 9/10 elbow I grabbed him at 9.11That's been my experience. Check out the drafts completed there and see.

 

[FBGPoker]

He has intoxicating speed.

I can vouch for this. I've replaced drinking with watching CJ run and get a similar buzz.I agree with those expecting 2k+ all purpose yards this season. The guy has 0 competition for carries and has potential to average 6+ yards a carry.

325 carries/2031 yards rushing/14 TDs, not to mention what he's gonna throw up receiving.

BMI be damned, Barry Sanders part deux with receiving ability.

4.24, there aren't any defenders in the NFL who will be able to catch him. Were looking at a once in a lifetime talent.

Come on... these are the types of posts that elicit He does have competition for carries in the form of a bruising back who had 1000 yards last season. There is no way Johnson gets even 40% of the carries.

Disagree, Lendale White is the worst starting RB in the NFL and was only played due to Tenn having no one else, now that Tenn has an elite RB like CJ they can phase out White and let him walk next season. White is so bad it's almost laughable.CJ will get 60-70% of the RB touches in Tenn (rushing + receiving) touches.

We've never seen a talent like CJ in the NFL at RB. He's the fastest RB to ever don an NFL uniform and is actually very good between the tackles contrary to popular opinion.

Soon everyone will realize what a special player this guy is, but until then i'd advise scooping him up whenever possible.

 

[EBF]

Chris Johnson facts:

- Chris Johnson is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.

- When Chris Johnson does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.

- Chris Johnson is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.

- Chris Johnson doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.

- There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chris Johnson has allowed to live.

- Chris Johnson does not sleep. He waits.

- Chris Johnson does not get frostbite. Chris Johnson bites frost.

- Chris Johnson counted to infinity - twice.

- The Great Wall of China was originally created to keep Chris Johnson out. It failed miserably.

 

[switz]

Disagree, Lendale White is the worst starting RB in the NFL and was only played due to Tenn having no one else, now that Tenn has an elite RB like CJ they can phase out White and let him walk next season. White is so bad it's almost laughable.CJ will get 60-70% of the RB touches in Tenn (rushing + receiving) touches.We've never seen a talent like CJ in the NFL at RB. He's the fastest RB to ever don an NFL uniform and is actually very good between the tackles contrary to popular opinion.Soon everyone will realize what a special player this guy is, but until then i'd advise scooping him up whenever possible.

He will probably get a lot of reception, I won't argue with that but there's not way he gets the majority of carries. I don't care how fast he is, unless he has a hole like this past weekend, he goes down quickly. White may not be very good in your eyes, but he is the type of RB the Titans like, and they will run him into the ground.

 

[switz]

Chris Johnson facts:- Chris Johnson is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.- When Chris Johnson does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.- Chris Johnson is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.- Chris Johnson doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.- There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chris Johnson has allowed to live.- Chris Johnson does not sleep. He waits.- Chris Johnson does not get frostbite. Chris Johnson bites frost.- Chris Johnson counted to infinity - twice.- The Great Wall of China was originally created to keep Chris Johnson out. It failed miserably.

awesome post

 

[RBM]

He has intoxicating speed.

I can vouch for this. I've replaced drinking with watching CJ run and get a similar buzz.I agree with those expecting 2k+ all purpose yards this season. The guy has 0 competition for carries and has potential to average 6+ yards a carry.325 carries/2031 yards rushing/14 TDs, not to mention what he's gonna throw up receiving.BMI be damned, Barry Sanders part deux with receiving ability.4.24, there aren't any defenders in the NFL who will be able to catch him. Were looking at a once in a lifetime talent.

 

[NajehHejan]

Where are people seeing him go in drafts now?I've done 2 today at ffc...still got him in the 11th in both.

Same site-different results. Mocking from the 2 hole in 12 teamers I have found that in 1/2 the mocks recently (about 10) I either take him at pick 7 or I don't get him. I fear 1 more big run and he jumps more. I have him in a dynasty (Rookie-11/16) and am lovin it. If you pick toward end of the draft-8+, you may get him in the 8th. When I waited till the 9/10 elbow I grabbed him at 9.11That's been my experience. Check out the drafts completed there and see.

My 12 team keep 2 draft is this Sunday, half the owners are pretty sharp, the other half are good but more casual. I'm picking from the 3 slot and thinking I'll need to grab him in round 5 or 6. Probably round 5. I hate to reach for the guy but he's the only rookie I want BADLY on my team. I figure I have two solid keepers in Westbrook and Wayne so come round 5 I should have a solid nucleus of 6 gamers and can roll the dice on this freak.

 

[Football Jones]

As high as I am on Chris Johnson, White will get quite a few touches early on. The Titans will start the season with a White/Johnson combo, no doubt. It's simply going to happen no matter how well Johnson plays in preseason. That said, I expect the progression to Chris Johnson, the feature back, will take a month or so. If you could get an honest answer out of the Titan coaches right now, I'm confident they expect CJ to be their feature back a few weeks into the season, as well.

For those of you high on CJ but don't own him, I'd play up the RBBC thing after the first couple weeks & make your last stand before his value skyrockets out of site.

 

[Jedimaster21]

Chris Johnson facts:- Chris Johnson is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.- When Chris Johnson does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.- Chris Johnson is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.- Chris Johnson doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.- There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chris Johnson has allowed to live.- Chris Johnson does not sleep. He waits.- Chris Johnson does not get frostbite. Chris Johnson bites frost.- Chris Johnson counted to infinity - twice.- The Great Wall of China was originally created to keep Chris Johnson out. It failed miserably.

Great, great, post. People just fall in love with players and lose perspective.

 

[EBF]

Chris Johnson facts:- Chris Johnson is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.- When Chris Johnson does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.- Chris Johnson is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.- Chris Johnson doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.- There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chris Johnson has allowed to live.- Chris Johnson does not sleep. He waits.- Chris Johnson does not get frostbite. Chris Johnson bites frost.- Chris Johnson counted to infinity - twice.- The Great Wall of China was originally created to keep Chris Johnson out. It failed miserably.

Great, great, post. People just fall in love with players and lose perspective.

I swapped Chris Johnson in for Chuck Norris.I'm not trying to slam CJ or mock his supporters. There's a lot to like about him. He's a phenomenal athlete. He has a first round pedigree. His track speed absolutely translates to the football field. He's building a buzz in training camp. I think he's a very interesting prospect in PPR leagues. However, I agree that the hype is reaching dangerous proportions. It's much more common for the NFL to revolutionize a player than it is for a player to revolutionize the NFL. It's going to take more than a few puff pieces and one long run to make me think this guy is the next big thing. This is the time of year when good news outweighs the bad news. So far I've heard that Darren McFadden is "wowing" in camp. Jonathan Stewart looks fast and powerful. Rashard Mendenhall looks like a threat to unseat Parker immediately. Ray Rice is dazzling. Felix Jones has "it." Chris Johnson is a "special player." There's a lot of football left to be played. Some of these guys are going to be outed as frauds in due time.

 

[Sam Quentin]

As high as I am on Chris Johnson, White will get quite a few touches early on. The Titans will start the season with a White/Johnson combo, no doubt. It's simply going to happen no matter how well Johnson plays in preseason. That said, I expect the progression to Chris Johnson, the feature back, will take a month or so. If you could get an honest answer out of the Titan coaches right now, I'm confident they expect CJ to be their feature back a few weeks into the season, as well.For those of you high on CJ but don't own him, I'd play up the RBBC thing after the first couple weeks & make your last stand before his value skyrockets out of site.

I love CJ, but Fatty will always have role in this O.Fatty will probably be the Goalline back and 4th quarter pounder. CJ will get some series' in the 2nd and 3rd quarter.IMHO, of course

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

He was the 5th leading rusher in Conference USA.

I think the Eric Metcalf comparison was a pretty good one.

 

[BigSeph]

Cedric Benson ran all over the Big 12 and Willie Parker barely played at all when he was at UNC, what's your point?

 

[Bears_Man2]

I think both could put up solid overall #'s. While it may or may not occur in Johnson's rookie year, I see Bush/White USC in time.

 

[Burning Sensation]

2008 Chris Johnson & Lendale White = 2004 Warrick Dunn & TJ Duckett

 

[tombonneau]

2008 Chris Johnson & Lendale White = 2004 Warrick Dunn & TJ Duckett

Or the 2005 Reggie Bush & Lendale White ?

 

[flooredyas]

2008 Chris Johnson & Lendale White = 2004 Warrick Dunn & TJ Duckett

Or the 2005 Reggie Bush & Lendale White ?

Back we go-Mercury Morris and Larry Csonka

 

[Burning Sensation]

2008 Chris Johnson & Lendale White = 2004 Warrick Dunn & TJ Duckett

Or the 2005 Reggie Bush & Lendale White ?

2008 Titans look alot like the 2004 Falcons. Both were/are borderline playoff teams with a solid defense and average to just above average Olines. No WR's that should see even 800 yards receiving.Vince Young is Michael Vick, minus the prison sentence.Who was the Falcons TE in 2004? Who is the Titans TE?Duckett = WhiteThat leaves Johnson/Dunn, it all just adds up.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Cedric Benson ran all over the Big 12 and Willie Parker barely played at all when he was at UNC, what's your point?

What's your point? How does what Benson did at Texas relate to what I said at all? How does Parker having a fool for a coach have anything to do with Johnson? Johnson played and got plenty of attempts. His rushing production was less than 4 other backs in his own second-tier conference.

 

[msommer]

2008 Chris Johnson & Lendale White = 2004 Warrick Dunn & TJ Duckett

Or the 2005 Reggie Bush & Lendale White ?

2008 Titans look alot like the 2004 Falcons. Both were/are borderline playoff teams with a solid defense and average to just above average Olines. No WR's that should see even 800 yards receiving.Vince Young is Michael Vick, minus the prison sentence.Who was the Falcons TE in 2004? Who is the Titans TE?Duckett = WhiteThat leaves Johnson/Dunn, it all just adds up.

Except Duckett is not White. Duckett as never run for more than 779 yards, never had more than 200 carries always had the reputation to run soft - particularly when factoring in his size. Point is here that White will have quite a numberof touches.Also Young is not Vick, no one would call 6'5" 233 lbs Young a running back that throws - although maybe he could be called a FB that throws

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Would it kill some people to NOT use the quote feature?

 

[Bri]

No WR's that should see even 800 yards receiving.

you do realize Gage had 750(in just 8 starts) and Roydell had 719 last year (his first year starting), right?

 

[Liquid Tension]

I just gave up Ray Rice, an 09 1st rounder and Chris Chambers for CJ. 99% of people would say that was dumb. But CJ can be a HOF-type player. He's got

 

[Liquid Tension]

I don't really want to read through 8 pages, but could someone post his size for me? Thanks

71.0", 200#, 27.9 BMI

I don't really want to divide, can someone tell me what size this is?While you are it, could someone help me with my cheat sheets?In fact, could someone draft for me?Then run my team for me?Pay my dues for me?And where are my socks?

 

[Liquid Tension]

Chris Johnson facts:

- Chris Johnson is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.

- When Chris Johnson does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.

- Chris Johnson is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.

- Chris Johnson doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.

- There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Chris Johnson has allowed to live.

- Chris Johnson does not sleep. He waits.

- Chris Johnson does not get frostbite. Chris Johnson bites frost.

- Chris Johnson counted to infinity - twice.

- The Great Wall of China was originally created to keep Chris Johnson out. It failed miserably.

 

[gump]

Where are people seeing him go in drafts now?I've done 2 today at ffc...still got him in the 11th in both.

Same site-different results. Mocking from the 2 hole in 12 teamers I have found that in 1/2 the mocks recently (about 10) I either take him at pick 7 or I don't get him. I fear 1 more big run and he jumps more. I have him in a dynasty (Rookie-11/16) and am lovin it. If you pick toward end of the draft-8+, you may get him in the 8th. When I waited till the 9/10 elbow I grabbed him at 9.11That's been my experience. Check out the drafts completed there and see.

My 12 team keep 2 draft is this Sunday, half the owners are pretty sharp, the other half are good but more casual. I'm picking from the 3 slot and thinking I'll need to grab him in round 5 or 6. Probably round 5. I hate to reach for the guy but he's the only rookie I want BADLY on my team. I figure I have two solid keepers in Westbrook and Wayne so come round 5 I should have a solid nucleus of 6 gamers and can roll the dice on this freak.

Just did another mock at ffc...10 team redraft. No computers. Got White in the 6th and Johnson in the 10th round.