The Coddling Of The American Mind (1 Viewer)

[tom22406]

Ran into this article and figured it may spark some discussion.Way too long to post so just click the link.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

 

[cstu]

That's some scary #### - hard to believe that could happen in the land of opportunity where there is only one race and the most qualified person gets a job if they work hard enough.

 

[ChiefD]

Interesting. Marking this to read again later.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

That article may hurt me by the content of the microaggressions.

 

[tom22406]

That article may hurt me by the content of the microaggressions.

Trigger warning has been issued.

 

[jonessed]

That article may hurt me by the content of the microaggressions.

Trigger warning has been issued.

Too late. You need to pay me moneys.

 

[rockaction]

Nice play off of Allan Bloom and his writing about the universities. Lukianoff now writes for Reason, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

These people should be macro aggressed right in the face.

 

[[icon]]

Pathetic.

 

[[icon]]

Truer now than ever before

 

[dschuler]

Whatever happened to sticks and stones will hurt your bones but words will never hurt you?

 

[Hooper31]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

 

[Hooper31]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

You?

 

[dschuler]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

I feel like it's more blaming society and events that have caused young people to become over sensitive on every aspect of life.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

You?

Us?

 

[snogger]

The ultimate aim, it seems, is to turn campuses into “safe spaces” where young adults are shielded from words and ideas that make some uncomfortable.

God forbid they be prepared for the real world...

Crap I just said God.. Guess I failed...

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

You?

Well, definitely not me personally (that's why I was being a little snarky).

I've always thought that people are often too eager to take offense at things -- I remember having this discussion with my friends back in college. And especially over the last several years, it's seemed to me that people rush to attribute the worst possible motives to people from the other tribe (red vs. blue), especially when it comes to interpreting off-the-cuff, inelegant comments with as little charity as possible.

I'm also firmly convinced that helicopter parenting is psychologically damaging to young adults, although admittedly my position on that is based on my own experience, which a person could reasonably dismiss as being too anecdote-driven.

So no, when two social trends that I really hate combine to produce basically the exact results that I would have predicted, I don't feel like I'm the one who created the problem.

 

[Hooper31]

Well, definitely not me personally (that's why I was being a little snarky).

I've always thought that people are often too eager to take offense at things -- I remember having this discussion with my friends back in college. And especially over the last several years, it's seemed to me that people rush to attribute the worst possible motives to people from the other tribe (red vs. blue), especially when it comes to interpreting off-the-cuff, inelegant comments with as little charity as possible.

I'm also firmly convinced that helicopter parenting is psychologically damaging to young adults, although admittedly my position on that is based on my own experience, which a person could reasonably dismiss as being too anecdote-driven.

So no, when two social trends that I really hate combine to produce basically the exact results that I would have predicted, I don't feel like I'm the one who created the problem.

Thanks for the reply. Agree with you entirely.

Random thought about "helicopter parents": Has the connectivity we all experience put parents under a microscope like never before that's affecting the way we respond to children?

 

[Sweet J]

Well, definitely not me personally (that's why I was being a little snarky).

I've always thought that people are often too eager to take offense at things -- I remember having this discussion with my friends back in college. And especially over the last several years, it's seemed to me that people rush to attribute the worst possible motives to people from the other tribe (red vs. blue), especially when it comes to interpreting off-the-cuff, inelegant comments with as little charity as possible.

I'm also firmly convinced that helicopter parenting is psychologically damaging to young adults, although admittedly my position on that is based on my own experience, which a person could reasonably dismiss as being too anecdote-driven.

So no, when two social trends that I really hate combine to produce basically the exact results that I would have predicted, I don't feel like I'm the one who created the problem.

Thanks for the reply. Agree with you entirely.

Random thought about "helicopter parents": Has the connectivity we all experience put parents under a microscope like never before that's affecting the way we respond to children?

I read an article somewhere that made this point: If someone sees a small kid (5? 6?) at a playground without his mother, 20 years ago the person might have gone over to help the kid, maybe offer to help him find his parents or stay with him until he was in a safe place. Now, the person seems just as likely to call the police and let them handle it.

The suggestion was that the community/neighborhood bond of being in this together (and hence shared responsibility for eachother), has eroded.

 

[rockaction]

Well, definitely not me personally (that's why I was being a little snarky).

I've always thought that people are often too eager to take offense at things -- I remember having this discussion with my friends back in college. And especially over the last several years, it's seemed to me that people rush to attribute the worst possible motives to people from the other tribe (red vs. blue), especially when it comes to interpreting off-the-cuff, inelegant comments with as little charity as possible.

I'm also firmly convinced that helicopter parenting is psychologically damaging to young adults, although admittedly my position on that is based on my own experience, which a person could reasonably dismiss as being too anecdote-driven.

So no, when two social trends that I really hate combine to produce basically the exact results that I would have predicted, I don't feel like I'm the one who created the problem.

Thanks for the reply. Agree with you entirely.

Random thought about "helicopter parents": Has the connectivity we all experience put parents under a microscope like never before that's affecting the way we respond to children?

I read an article somewhere that made this point: If someone sees a small kid (5? 6?) at a playground without his mother, 20 years ago the person might have gone over to help the kid, maybe offer to help him find his parents or stay with him until he was in a safe place. Now, the person seems just as likely to call the police and let them handle it.

The suggestion was that the community/neighborhood bond of being in this together (and hence shared responsibility for eachother), has eroded.

You can thank a lot of stuff for that, which goes to what happens when awful people do awful things, and when two professions profit off of it to create false memories and false accusations. Plus, demography and the value of a child these days, which is now through the roof in terms of age, labor, etc.

That's a different subject, I think, from what is likely the thesis of an article I didn't read, because I've read it a million times before.

 

[snogger]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

You?

Well, definitely not me personally (that's why I was being a little snarky).

I've always thought that people are often too eager to take offense at things -- I remember having this discussion with my friends back in college. And especially over the last several years, it's seemed to me that people rush to attribute the worst possible motives to people from the other tribe (red vs. blue), especially when it comes to interpreting off-the-cuff, inelegant comments with as little charity as possible.

I'm also firmly convinced that helicopter parenting is psychologically damaging to young adults, although admittedly my position on that is based on my own experience, which a person could reasonably dismiss as being too anecdote-driven.

So no, when two social trends that I really hate combine to produce basically the exact results that I would have predicted, I don't feel like I'm the one who created the problem.

Agree on the Bold part.

I know, I know "times have changed" and recalling my experiences is a little to say the least but...

Between the ages of 11 and 13 I spent the summers at my Dad's house(parents divorced when I was 5) which was blocks away from a tubing river.. anyone that lived in town could get tubes and bus rides to the top for free during the week.

My Dad and Step-Mom would send me out with my 3 younger sisters( the youngest one being 8 the first year) to go tubing for the day.. We had two rules.. Be home by dinner and no going over the rapids..

I recall one time meeting this married couple from Canada, as we tubed down we got out of the river to go around the rapids and rejoined them.. They then walked up to our house with us afterwards to get permission to take us over the rapids..

Can't imagine what would happen now days if that happened.

 

[Insein]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

You?

Us?

Them?

 

[dschuler]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

You?

Us?

Them?

Both?

 

[cstu]

Agree on the Bold part.

I know, I know "times have changed" and recalling my experiences is a little to say the least but...

Between the ages of 11 and 13 I spent the summers at my Dad's house(parents divorced when I was 5) which was blocks away from a tubing river.. anyone that lived in town could get tubes and bus rides to the top for free during the week.

My Dad and Step-Mom would send me out with my 3 younger sisters( the youngest one being 8 the first year) to go tubing for the day.. We had two rules.. Be home by dinner and no going over the rapids..

I recall one time meeting this married couple from Canada, as we tubed down we got out of the river to go around the rapids and rejoined them.. They then walked up to our house with us afterwards to get permission to take us over the rapids..

Can't imagine what would happen now days if that happened.

Did you wear your life vest 100% of the time? There are a lot of deaths that result from people not wearing one.

At least 31 people have died in the last five years in accidents in the roughly 200 miles of Delaware River between New Jersey and Pennsylvania, according to an analysis by NJ.com and lehighvalleylive.com.

Since 1971 when the park began keeping statistics, more than 90 people have drowned in the 40 miles of Delaware River within the park's borders.

 

[McGarnicle]

Man, those kids really wouldn't like me.

 

[Thunderlips]

I blame women.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

You?

Us?

Them?

Both?

Youse guys?

 

[McGarnicle]

Well, definitely not me personally (that's why I was being a little snarky).

I've always thought that people are often too eager to take offense at things -- I remember having this discussion with my friends back in college. And especially over the last several years, it's seemed to me that people rush to attribute the worst possible motives to people from the other tribe (red vs. blue), especially when it comes to interpreting off-the-cuff, inelegant comments with as little charity as possible.

I'm also firmly convinced that helicopter parenting is psychologically damaging to young adults, although admittedly my position on that is based on my own experience, which a person could reasonably dismiss as being too anecdote-driven.

So no, when two social trends that I really hate combine to produce basically the exact results that I would have predicted, I don't feel like I'm the one who created the problem.

Thanks for the reply. Agree with you entirely.

Random thought about "helicopter parents": Has the connectivity we all experience put parents under a microscope like never before that's affecting the way we respond to children?

I read an article somewhere that made this point: If someone sees a small kid (5? 6?) at a playground without his mother, 20 years ago the person might have gone over to help the kid, maybe offer to help him find his parents or stay with him until he was in a safe place. Now, the person seems just as likely to call the police and let them handle it.

The suggestion was that the community/neighborhood bond of being in this together (and hence shared responsibility for eachother), has eroded.

That's a result of our heterogenous culture and the general sense of fear drilled into our heads by the media. Let's say I go over and help the kid and the parents show up an hour later. Are they going to thank me or accuse me of trying to molest their kid? What if they're high? We no longer assume everyone shares our same values. So yeah, unfortunately in that situation your smartest move is to call the cops.

 

[Foosball God]

This is the age of fear. Everyone focusing on the whatever bad thing is currently happening and whatever bad thing might possibly happen tomorrow.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

This is the age of fear. Everyone focusing on the whatever bad thing is currently happening and whatever bad thing might possibly happen tomorrow.

I was just going to post that I blame the media.

 

[Hooper31]

This is the age of fear.

 

[jon_mx]

I think is more of the age of victimhood.

 

[Ned]

The age of outrage.

 

[Thunderlips]

I think is more of the age of victimhood.

They're doing nothing more than what they were trained/told and taught to do. They do nothing more than what most people do to get their way. This "beholden to the stockholders" at all costs that we've established gives value not necessarily to who is morally right or wrong....but to who can create enough waves to disrupt the cash flow. At an age where Higher Education is scrambling for business....of course they're going to attempt to placate those who scream loudest with the most inflammatory rhetoric.

 

[Jack White]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

You?

Us?

Us and them.

 

[jon_mx]

The age of outrage.

I am offended!

 

[McGarnicle]

Do you guys think all of this might be because of the Jews?

 

[snogger]

Agree on the Bold part.

I know, I know "times have changed" and recalling my experiences is a little to say the least but...

Between the ages of 11 and 13 I spent the summers at my Dad's house(parents divorced when I was 5) which was blocks away from a tubing river.. anyone that lived in town could get tubes and bus rides to the top for free during the week.

My Dad and Step-Mom would send me out with my 3 younger sisters( the youngest one being 8 the first year) to go tubing for the day.. We had two rules.. Be home by dinner and no going over the rapids..

I recall one time meeting this married couple from Canada, as we tubed down we got out of the river to go around the rapids and rejoined them.. They then walked up to our house with us afterwards to get permission to take us over the rapids..

Can't imagine what would happen now days if that happened.

Did you wear your life vest 100% of the time? There are a lot of deaths that result from people not wearing one.

At least 31 people have died in the last five years in accidents in the roughly 200 miles of Delaware River between New Jersey and Pennsylvania, according to an analysis by NJ.com and lehighvalleylive.com.

Since 1971 when the park began keeping statistics, more than 90 people have drowned in the 40 miles of Delaware River within the park's borders.

What is a Life vest

Just kidding

But no, none of us ever wore one and I can't recall ever seeing anyone then, or now, wear one on the river tubing.

 

[tom22406]

This is the age of fear. Everyone focusing on the whatever bad thing is currently happening and whatever bad thing might possibly happen tomorrow.

I agree with this.See this more and more as I'm getting older.

I think social media has a hand in this,as does the media who report anything and everything almost without even checking the validity of some of the stories in the effort to be the first to break it.

I don't really see this getting any better anytime soon either.

 

[Ned]

This is the age of fear. Everyone focusing on the whatever bad thing is currently happening and whatever bad thing might possibly happen tomorrow.

I agree with this.See this more and more as I'm getting older.

I think social media has a hand in this,as does the media who report anything and everything almost without even checking the validity of some of the stories in the effort to be the first to break it.

I don't really see this getting any better anytime soon either.

The sensationalizing also plays a big factor.

 

[Insein]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

You?

Us?

Them?

Both?

Youse guys?

Voodoo?

 

[icecat4270]

Whatever happened to sticks and stones will hurt your bones but words will never hurt you?

They used to even break your bones.

 

[comfortably numb]

This is the age of fear. Everyone focusing on the whatever bad thing is currently happening and whatever bad thing might possibly happen tomorrow.

I agree with this.See this more and more as I'm getting older.I think social media has a hand in this,as does the media who report anything and everything almost without even checking the validity of some of the stories in the effort to be the first to break it.

I don't really see this getting any better anytime soon either.

I encountered a sad one on facebook a couple weeks ago.

Saw a post come up my feed with a picture of an older man with a title of PLEASE SHARE!!!!

I read it and it turns out a lady was at some park a few miles from house and said she noticed this man who appeared to be alone watching the small kids play in the water section of the small park.

She said he was there for about 30 min and he seemed creepy so she took a pic of him.

She alerted the local park person and they went over to talk to the guy and ask what he was doing there and apparently the guy seemingly rushed out of the park.

You can figure out what the thread went like...many people telling her to take down the pic, that she could be defaming a person with no evidence and many other saying, what kind of creep goes to watch kids play in the park alone and of course the well if he didn't do anything wrong he would have stayed there to be questioned by authorities.

People were ready to kill this man.

This incident made me sad on a few different levels.

How quickly people resorted to fear

How quickly people assume the worst

How quickly people are ready to label someone

How quickly people picked their side and dug their heels

Just sad on many levels for me

 

[EYLive]

Blouses

 

[tom22406]

This is the age of fear. Everyone focusing on the whatever bad thing is currently happening and whatever bad thing might possibly happen tomorrow.

I agree with this.See this more and more as I'm getting older.I think social media has a hand in this,as does the media who report anything and everything almost without even checking the validity of some of the stories in the effort to be the first to break it.

I don't really see this getting any better anytime soon either.

I encountered a sad one on facebook a couple weeks ago.

Saw a post come up my feed with a picture of an older man with a title of PLEASE SHARE!!!!

I read it and it turns out a lady was at some park a few miles from house and said she noticed this man who appeared to be alone watching the small kids play in the water section of the small park.

She said he was there for about 30 min and he seemed creepy so she took a pic of him.

She alerted the local park person and they went over to talk to the guy and ask what he was doing there and apparently the guy seemingly rushed out of the park.

You can figure out what the thread went like...many people telling her to take down the pic, that she could be defaming a person with no evidence and many other saying, what kind of creep goes to watch kids play in the park alone and of course the well if he didn't do anything wrong he would have stayed there to be questioned by authorities.

People were ready to kill this man.

This incident made me sad on a few different levels.

How quickly people resorted to fear

How quickly people assume the worst

How quickly people are ready to label someone

How quickly people picked their side and dug their heels

Just sad on many levels for me

I get those all the time on my feed.People see a meme and automatically believe whatever it says and get outraged without ever checking to see if it's even real or not whether it's political or a social issue it always gets people upset because they want to believe these things are true and for some of them they really are no matter what the facts turn out to be.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I want to care, but I really don't.

 

[Flying V]

Anyone else see this as blaming children for the world we created?

We?

You?

Us?

Them?

Doctor Detroit, cuz he don't care.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I've always thought that people are often too eager to take offense at things -- I remember having this discussion with my friends back in college.

This sentence is more fun if you misread it as "...with my black friends in college."