The Colt McCoy era upon us (1 Viewer)

[dparker713]

If you're a betting man you're mortgaging the house, spending your wife's dowry, and stealing from your offspring's piggy bank to bet on PIT this game.

Agreed. But thinking long-term do you think he could be an answer at QB for CLE?

No. Homer pride is blinding your eyes. Never really thought he had much of a shot at being a good NFL QB

Texas fan I may be. Homer pride? No. Care to explain why you think he doesn't have a shot at being a good NFL QB? There are a lot of QB's who didn't "have a shot" coming out of college. Romo, Brady, Brees, the list goes on. Now before anybody accuses me of comparing them to those three, I AM NOT. Just want to hear rationale.

Those QBs are extremely rare cases(and Brees was drafted pretty high btw). Sure you're right that McCoy could turn out to be a good QB, but its so unlikely that I think its fair to say any Texas fan promoting the idea that he will is being a homer.

The chance of any 3rd round pick developing into an good starter is highly unlikely, but I fail to see why Colt's chances would be any longer than other 3rd round picks.

 

[Road Warriors]

Regardless of McCoy.. any rookie playing QB, on the road, in a division game, against PIT, is probably a bad play.

I think McCoy can be okay.. just needs rep and experience, unfortunately he is in a fairly tough division to begin with. Only thing I know... PIT in the survivor pool looks like a lock this week.

Fixed.

 

[Road Warriors]

No. Homer pride is blinding your eyes. Never really thought he had much of a shot at being a good NFL QB

Texas fan I may be. Homer pride? No. Care to explain why you think he doesn't have a shot at being a good NFL QB? There are a lot of QB's who didn't "have a shot" coming out of college. Romo, Brady, Brees, the list goes on. Now before anybody accuses me of comparing them to those three, I AM NOT. Just want to hear rationale.

Those QBs are extremely rare cases(and Brees was drafted pretty high btw). Sure you're right that McCoy could turn out to be a good QB, but its so unlikely that I think its fair to say any Texas fan promoting the idea that he will is being a homer.

The chance of any 3rd round pick developing into an good starter is highly unlikely, but I fail to see why Colt's chances would be any longer than other 3rd round picks.

~1/3 of NFL starting QBs are 3rd round & higher ( 10/32 ). Colt is also the highest draft pick at QB on CLE.I like Colt's game. He's accurate, has a "strong enough" arm, and he makes good decisions ( at the college level, anyway). I think he has a good chance to be a decent NFL QB, but this is not the start I would recommend for launching his career. I don't like Manning/Rivers/Brady against this Pit D. McCoy will be eaten for lunch this week.

 

[Sam Quentin]

I would be selling if I were a McCoy owner.

That would have to be one deep-### league

 

[BRONG]

McCoy put up monster numbers vs the dregs on the UT schedule but what scares me about him was his dog games vs the teams such as Nebraska and Oklahoma which had some NFL talent on them. It doesn't bode well for his long range prospects as an NFL QB imo. Also spread QB's are usually well behind the curve compared to QB prospects that played in a pro style system especially in their rookie season although Bradford is certainly looking like a nice exception to that rule.

He didn't have great games as a senior against Nebraska or Oklahoma, but he wasn't horrible especially when you consider what Nebraska did to the Texas Oline. He was also 2 for 2 before getting knocked out against Alabama.

ETA: I think a realistic ceiling for him is Jeff Garcia, not that he's anywhere near that now, but I think he can attain that level of success.

Are you serious? Do you mean that they kind of look like they might be gay or something (nttawwt)? Because Garcia actually had balls; big difference.

 

[dparker713]

McCoy put up monster numbers vs the dregs on the UT schedule but what scares me about him was his dog games vs the teams such as Nebraska and Oklahoma which had some NFL talent on them. It doesn't bode well for his long range prospects as an NFL QB imo. Also spread QB's are usually well behind the curve compared to QB prospects that played in a pro style system especially in their rookie season although Bradford is certainly looking like a nice exception to that rule.

He didn't have great games as a senior against Nebraska or Oklahoma, but he wasn't horrible especially when you consider what Nebraska did to the Texas Oline. He was also 2 for 2 before getting knocked out against Alabama.

ETA: I think a realistic ceiling for him is Jeff Garcia, not that he's anywhere near that now, but I think he can attain that level of success.

Are you serious? Do you mean that they kind of look like they might be gay or something? Because Garcia actually had balls; big difference.

Yeah, he became the winningest quarterback in the history of college football while rushing 8.4 times per game by being soft. Guy couldn't lift his throwing arm, stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[Born to Run]

Chip Brown of Orangebloods.com reports that rookie Colt McCoy has been told he'll start in Week 6 against the Steelers.

Brown is a college football guy, but he's very plugged into the University of Texas, where McCoy went to school. ESPN's Adam Schefter also hinted at the same thing in a Monday report. With Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace both nursing high ankle sprains, the Browns don't have much of a choice. McCoy had a terrible preseason and is a disaster waiting to happen at Pittsburgh. Oct. 12 - 10:14 am et

Source: Chip Brown on Twitter

They do have a choice - go with Ratliff. I'm surprised they are throwing Colt into this game. Trial by Fire, Sink or Swim, call it what you want, it is irresponsible of that franchise to throw him in there. CLEV D will need to step up to keep this game from being an embarrassment

 

[BRONG]

McCoy put up monster numbers vs the dregs on the UT schedule but what scares me about him was his dog games vs the teams such as Nebraska and Oklahoma which had some NFL talent on them. It doesn't bode well for his long range prospects as an NFL QB imo. Also spread QB's are usually well behind the curve compared to QB prospects that played in a pro style system especially in their rookie season although Bradford is certainly looking like a nice exception to that rule.

He didn't have great games as a senior against Nebraska or Oklahoma, but he wasn't horrible especially when you consider what Nebraska did to the Texas Oline. He was also 2 for 2 before getting knocked out against Alabama.

ETA: I think a realistic ceiling for him is Jeff Garcia, not that he's anywhere near that now, but I think he can attain that level of success.

Are you serious? Do you mean that they kind of look like they might be gay or something? Because Garcia actually had balls; big difference.

Yeah, he became the winningest quarterback in the history of college football while rushing 8.4 times per game by being soft. Guy couldn't lift his throwing arm, stop embarrassing yourself.

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure Leinart fits in with your great college stats, too, that's nice. And you can buy all that crap about how bad his shoulder really was all you want, I'm not. Regardless, we'll see how things pan out, won't we, so it will only be embarrassing when one of us is wrong, and mildly so.Your call is a Jeff Garcia-type, and I am saying that's exactly what he doesn't have -- that type of mentality. It was nice being coddled at the University of Texas I'm sure, but welcome to the NFL and your Cleveland Browns, enjoy! By the way, Colt, that's Troy over there.

 

[ROBOPUNTER]

McCoy put up monster numbers vs the dregs on the UT schedule but what scares me about him was his dog games vs the teams such as Nebraska and Oklahoma which had some NFL talent on them. It doesn't bode well for his long range prospects as an NFL QB imo. Also spread QB's are usually well behind the curve compared to QB prospects that played in a pro style system especially in their rookie season although Bradford is certainly looking like a nice exception to that rule.

He didn't have great games as a senior against Nebraska or Oklahoma, but he wasn't horrible especially when you consider what Nebraska did to the Texas Oline. He was also 2 for 2 before getting knocked out against Alabama.

ETA: I think a realistic ceiling for him is Jeff Garcia, not that he's anywhere near that now, but I think he can attain that level of success.

Are you serious? Do you mean that they kind of look like they might be gay or something? Because Garcia actually had balls; big difference.

Yeah, he became the winningest quarterback in the history of college football while rushing 8.4 times per game by being soft. Guy couldn't lift his throwing arm, stop embarrassing yourself.

His daddy told him to not play. This is why he stopped playing.

 

[jmack0311]

As if Hillis already didn't have a tough matchup against the Steelers run defense, imagine how tough he'll have it when the Steelers put 9 in the box on 1st/2nd downs and force McCoy/Ratliff to air it out.

This game is gonna be ugly.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Chip Brown of Orangebloods.com reports that rookie Colt McCoy has been told he'll start in Week 6 against the Steelers.

Brown is a college football guy, but he's very plugged into the University of Texas, where McCoy went to school. ESPN's Adam Schefter also hinted at the same thing in a Monday report. With Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace both nursing high ankle sprains, the Browns don't have much of a choice. McCoy had a terrible preseason and is a disaster waiting to happen at Pittsburgh. Oct. 12 - 10:14 am et

Source: Chip Brown on Twitter

Local media saying the same thing. Colt has been put on notice. I hope the kid does well, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Hank Mardukas]

McCoy is the most accurate passer in NCAA history. I'd say that bodes pretty well for his NFL prospects. And yes, he's a tough guy, rushing 447 times for 1589 yds and 20 TDs in his college career.

I think it would be a huge mistake to throw him out there against PIT on the road. IMO he absolutely has all the tools to become an NFL starter IF he has time to sit behind another guy for a few years and develop. Very very few guys can walk into a starting lineup straight out of college and have success.

I'm no NFL GM, but I highly doubt any team EVER drafts a QB with the intent to make him a career backup, especially in the 3rd round. It doesn't even make logical sense to do that. The backup isn't the guy that holds the clipboard; the backup is the guy that plays when the starter goes down, which happens probably on about 1/3 of the teams at least once every year. With that kind of likelihood, teams don't develop backup QBs with the idea that they'll never see the field. Already this year after only 5 games the backup has played for Pittsburgh, Carolina, Buffalo, Detroit, Philadelphia, Chicago, Arizona, Oakland, and possibly Green Bay. AFter 5 games, 25% of NFL teams have played their backup for at least 1 game.

Furthermore, at the rate that QBs don't pan out (and all draft picks for that matter), it pays to bring in guys you think have starter potential and develop them. Obviously, the fact that a guy is a 1st round pick is no guarantee that he'll make it as a starter. You bring in multiple guys and develop them and ideally someone turns out to be starter material.

 

[Texasmouth]

I am a huge McCoy homer and a huge longhorn homer and I think Colt may be a decent NFL QB one day but I cannot think of a worse situation for him to get his first start than against Pitt. They make pro bowl QB look stupid, I am scared for Colt.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

I'm on the fence on McCoy but not this weekend. It will get very ugly.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

If undrafted 2010 free agent signee Max Hall can beat the Super Bowl Champ Saints, it is possible that McCoy can have a decent showing. Towards the end of camp, Colt had some success as the gameplan was perfect.

If anything, I think Daboll will be exposed as being a poor playcaller/game manager more than Colt will be exposed as being unfit to start.

If the Browns manage to keep it even close, it will be because of great preparation and playcalling by Daboll. The whole offensive coaching staff better be spending the better part of the next 96 hours studying game film of the Steelers' blitz packages with Colt.

Expect a lot of dink and dunk, a lot of flash packages with Cribbs, and even some passes from Cribbs.

 

[dparker713]

The stats didn't look too bad against the Steelers. Anyone watch the game closely have a scouting report?

 

[guderian]

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure Leinart fits in with your great college stats, too, that's nice. And you can buy all that crap about how bad his shoulder really was all you want, I'm not. Regardless, we'll see how things pan out, won't we, so it will only be embarrassing when one of us is wrong, and mildly so.Your call is a Jeff Garcia-type, and I am saying that's exactly what he doesn't have -- that type of mentality. It was nice being coddled at the University of Texas I'm sure, but welcome to the NFL and your Cleveland Browns, enjoy! By the way, Colt, that's Troy over there.

Wow. A ton of hate in here for a good kid. He didn't finish the Alabama game because he couldn't throw the ball 5 yards. It's amusing how thin some people's knowledge of the college game can be. The kid wins the most games by a QB ever, yet some people's entire perception is formed by a single, high profile game. It seems like the predicted meltdown at the hands of the mighty Steelers defense didn't occur...

 

[Insein]

I'm sold. Keep the McCoy train rolling. Can't see how the Browns can go back to Wallace or Delhomme after Mccoy showed a pretty decent performance against insurmountable odds sunday. Use this year to get the rookie jitters out and then get him going next year.

 

[TheBaylorKid]

http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/...nks_brow_2.html

Mangini confirmed Colt McCoy played with a sprained left ankle after taking a sack early in the third quarter.

QB issue, again?

News-Herald reporter Jeff Schudel reminds us about another quarterback controversy because coach Eric Mangini will wait until Wednesday to announce that Colt McCoy is too injured to play on Sunday and he will go chose between Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace to replace him.

Schudel writes how Delhomme should be the choice, but the Browns have other issues to deal with.

Picking a quarterback to face Carolina is the immediate dilemma challenging Mangini. In the grander scheme, the Browns' head coach has to get his team to finish games better.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/11/xxxx.html

BEREA, Ohio -- Colt McCoy's status for Sunday's Browns game against Carolina is uncertain because of a sprained left ankle, perhaps opening the door for Jake Delhomme to start against the team he once led to a Super Bowl.

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In a Monday afternoon meeting with reporters, coach Eric Mangini did not speak to the extent of McCoy's injury. Mangini did not say whether McCoy has a high-ankle sprain, only that the ankle is "definitely" sprained and the team will know more Wednesday.

McCoy was expected to have an MRI scan Monday. He was injured early in the third quarter of Sunday's 24-20 loss at Jacksonville. His left foot bent for a split-second during a sack by Jeremy Mincey. McCoy remained in the game and eventually exited the locker roomwearing a orthopedic boot.

McCoy has played in five games, all starts (2-3). He is 81-of-127 for 975 yards and three touchdowns. He has been intercepted three times. His rating is 85.3.

Delhomme, acquired as a free agent in the off-season, started the opener at Tampa Bay and suffered a high-ankle sprain while being dragged down as he threw an interception. Mangini on Monday said Delhomme is "back to 100 percent, or as close to 100 percent as anyone is."

Seneca Wallace replaced Delhomme for a Week 2 start against the Chiefs in Cleveland. In his fourth start, Oct. 10 against the Falcons, Wallace suffered a high-ankle sprain while being sacked. McCoy, who had not been scheduled to play this season, started the next week at Pittsburgh.

Delhomme signed with Cleveland after seven seasons with the Panthers. In 2003, his first season in Carolina after five years in New Orleans, Delhomme threw for 3,219 yards and led the Panthers to the Super Bowl. The Panthers lost to New England in Super Bowl XXXVIII despite Delhomme's 323 passing yards.

None of the three Browns quarterbacks was available to the media Monday. The closest encounter came when Wallace moved toward his locker near the end of reporters' access to players. As a crowd gathered, Wallace smiled and said, "I pumped-faked y'all," as he continued walking into another room.

Wallace was the backup quarterback and Delhomme the No. 3 for the Jaguars game. It marked the first time since Oct. 10 that Delhomme was in uniform.

Mangini was asked if he would need to decide between Wallace and Delhomme.

"I'd like to wait until Wednesday to see how it does shake out in terms of where [McCoy] is," Mangini said. "That's really what I'd like to do. We'll figure it out at that point."

 

[stuckinthemuck]

Those of you who trashed McCoy before he even started one game owe a BIG APOLOGY to the Shark Pool.

If you're a betting man you're mortgaging the house, spending your wife's dowry, and stealing from your offspring's piggy bank to bet on PIT this game.

Um...sorry.

 

[guderian]

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure Leinart fits in with your great college stats, too, that's nice. And you can buy all that crap about how bad his shoulder really was all you want, I'm not. Regardless, we'll see how things pan out, won't we, so it will only be embarrassing when one of us is wrong, and mildly so.Your call is a Jeff Garcia-type, and I am saying that's exactly what he doesn't have -- that type of mentality. It was nice being coddled at the University of Texas I'm sure, but welcome to the NFL and your Cleveland Browns, enjoy! By the way, Colt, that's Troy over there.

2-3 with wins against the Saints and the Patriots and losses to Pittsburgh, the Jags and OT loss to the Jets. QB rating of 85 and completing 64% of his passes. Not a bad start for the kid going up against an incredibly brutal schedule.

 

[footballnerd]

I didn't think he would amount to much but the guy has been very impressive. Too bad he didn't get drafted by Indy.