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The Dominance of the Green Bay Packers (1 Viewer)

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Don Banks>INSIDE THE NFLMore ColumnsEmail Don BanksPerhaps it's a byproduct of the league-wide obsession with all things Tebow, and the remarkable story that just keeps raging on in Denver, consuming more and more oxygen every week. Maybe it's a bit of perfect-season fatigue, with the 2007 Patriots and the 2009 Colts having trod this same parcel of ground so recently. And without a doubt, some of it can be attributed to the Packers themselves, a small-market team almost devoid of drama, with no prima donnas or screaming need to draw attention to itself.But somehow, and I'm not even sure how it's possible in an NFL that receives year-round saturation coverage, it feels as if we've overlooked and underplayed the 13-0 saga that has unfolded in Green Bay this season. The defending Super Bowl champion Packers, like a well-oiled machine that hums along almost unnoticed in the background, just keep winning every week, but rarely take top billing in the NFL news cycle.Which means it's high time we took notice of the high-water marks Green Bay is starting to post in this nearly unprecedented run of success. For starters, it was Week 15 of last season when Green Bay last tasted defeat, that strangely hopeful 31-27 Aaron Rodgers-less loss on a Sunday night in New England. It simultaneously pushed the Packers to the brink of playoff elimination at 8-6 and seemed to jump-start their memorable six-game sweep to the postseason and a Super Bowl title.Let that one sink in a little. With one more win this Sunday at Kansas City, the Packers will have gone an entire 12 months without losing, logging a perfect year of a different kind. It would be Green Bay's 20th consecutive victory, just one shy of New England's NFL record 21, achieved during its back-to-back Super Bowl-winning seasons of 2003-04. A win at the struggling Chiefs (5-8) would also wrap up another piece of history for the Packers, their first No. 1 seed in the NFC playoff field since their Super Bowl season of 1996.At that point, with two weeks remaining in the regular season, and holiday home games still to play against NFC North rivals Chicago (on Christmas night) and Detroit (New Year's Day), the Packers could firmly set their sights on the record books. It is no secret in Green Bay. The Packers intend to fully embrace and chase the perfect season. The first 19-0 record in league history and consecutive Super Bowl titles would put them squarely in the discussion for the greatest team of all time."I mean, it's out there,'' Packers cornerback Charles Woodson said. "We've assured ourselves a spot in the playoffs, and really that's all you can do at this point. Then once the regular season's over and the playoffs start, all your focus is on that one prize and that's to win the Super Bowl. Our goal is to finish this season the way we want to, playing Green Bay Packers football and trying to get the rest of these wins, and going into those playoffs on fire.''See, there's no rest-your-starters talk in Green Bay. Just a mentality of going out to "get the rest of these wins.''"There's no other team that can say it's 13-0 right now and on the precipice of doing something great,'' Packers linebacker Clay Matthews said. "But there's still a lot left that we need to accomplish.''Or as Packers nose tackle B.J. Raji succinctly put it, when asked about Green Bay's quest for a perfect season: "It hasn't been done in a few decades (the '72 Dolphins of 17-0 fame), so we're trying to add to history.''The Packers have indeed added a little history to their long and storied franchise legacy in the past year. Let's take a little closer look at their still-unfolding dominance from as many angles as possible. Because you get the feeling their days flying under the radar are almost at an end:• Turns out there's a very good reason you're not hearing much about Rodgers and his ability to mount fourth-quarter comebacks like quarterbacks Tim Tebow of Denver or Eli Manning of the Giants. During Green Bay's 19-game winning streak, the Packers have never trailed in the fourth quarter.You got that? Nineteen games, never a fourth-quarter deficit. It's the longest such streak in NFL history, and it's not even close, with the Sammy Baugh-led 1942-43 Washington Redskins putting together a 13-game run. Green Bay was tied in the fourth quarter with the Giants in Week 13, and again last year in Week 17 at home against the Bears, but that's it.• Despite going just 10-6 in the regular season in 2010, the Packers notably went the entire year (four postseason games included) without trailing by more than seven points at any time. That impressive streak of competitiveness died rather early this year, when Green Bay fell behind 13-0 at Carolina in Week 2, a game the Packers rallied to win 30-23.But Green Bay has still been dominant to a ridiculous degree. The Packers have played 52 quarters so far this season, and led at the end of 44 of them, or 85 percent of the time. During the 19-game winning streak, Green Bay has had a lead at the end of 64 of its 76 quarters of play, or 84 percent.• If you made the Packers a two-touchdown favorite to win every game this season, you're looking pretty smart so far. Green Bay has outscored its 13 opponents 466-278 in 2011, a league-best 188-point differential. That's 14.5 points per game better than the other guys.During the 19-game winning streak, the Packers have been almost as good. Green Bay holds a 642-374 scoring margin in that span, a 268-point bulge that translates to 14.1 points per game. No wonder there hasn't been a need for many fourth-quarter comebacks.• Green Bay's total of 466 points this season is already a franchise record, besting the 2009 team's 461 points. But these Packers have bigger fish to fry than that. Green Bay's total is tied for the second most ever through 13 games since the 1970 merger, trailing only the record-setting 2007 Patriots (503 points).New England scored a league record 589 points in going 16-0 that season, or 36.8 per game. Green Bay is averaging 35.8 points per game this season, a pace that would see it finish with 574, second-most ever. The Packers need to average 41.3 points in their last three games to score 590 this season, breaking the Patriots' mark.Improbable? Not really. The Packers have already had five games of 42-plus points this season, tying the 1971 Super Bowl champion Dallas Cowboys for the most such games in a season since the merger. During the 19-game winning streak, Green Bay has scored at least 42 seven times, or in 37 percent of its games.• The Packers have 57 touchdowns this season, a team record, and 19 players have scored them, just two shy of the league record in that department. Green Bay has five times scored at least 28 points in the first half of games, and the other 31 NFL teams have combined for just nine 28-point-plus first halves this year."It's a lot of fun to be a part of a team with a bunch of playmakers, who all know how to get into the end zone,'' Woodson said. "This is a treat for me.''The Packers have scored at least 30 points in 12 of the 19 games in the winning streak, and given up 30 or more just three times in that span (but twice in the past five games). They are the first defending Super Bowl champ to score at least 24 points in each of its first 13 games of the season, beating out the 2000 St. Louis Rams' streak of 10 games to start the year.• The Packers have plenty of Super Bowl-era success to draw upon, having made the game five times under three head coaches in three different decades. But their current 19-game winning streak blows away the Lombardi and Holmgren eras on that front. The longest winning streak for Lombardi's Packers was 12 games, in 1961-62. And Mike Holmgren's teams never won more than the nine in a row, accomplished by his twin Super Bowl clubs of 1996-97.• One more win and Green Bay becomes just the fourth team in league history to open a season with a 14-0 mark, tying those '72 Dolphins (in the era of 14-game regular seasons), as well as the 2007 Patriots and 2009 Colts (who finished 14-2, choosing in the final two weeks of the season to give many key starters rest for the playoffs).The Packers' road dominance is also starting to build some historical significance. Green Bay, with a win at Kansas City, would be just the sixth NFL team to go 8-0 on the road in a season, and it would give the Packers an 11-game road winning streak, counting their three away wins in last year's playoffs (the Super Bowl is considered a neutral site game). Green Bay's home winning streak stands at 11, and it has won 17 of its past 18 games at Lambeau Field, dating to 2009."I think we're a good team anywhere,'' Woodson said. "We're one of the teams that travels well, and we're a good team at home, too. For us, it really doesn't matter where we play.''The Packers are certain to be playing at home in the playoffs this year. But Lambeau hasn't been the overwhelming advantage in the postseason that it once was. The Packers are just 3-3 in their six playoff home games since the close of the Holmgren era in 1998.• Rodgers is headed for his first NFL MVP award this season, and his 39 touchdown passes has already tied Brett Favre's 1996 team record. But his most astounding statistic may be his league-record-tying 13 straight games with two or more scoring passes, a feat only he and Peyton Manning (2004) have accomplished in the first 13 games of a season (Tom Brady in 2010-11, and Don Meredith in 1965-66 also had 13 games in a row with two touchdown passes).If Rodgers throws at least two more touchdowns against the Chiefs, his streak will stand alone in the NFL record book.• While Green Bay's defense takes a backseat to its high-powered offense, it remains one of the best units in the league in terms of takeaways. The Packers' 27 interceptions this season are nine more than their closest competitor in that department. Just like last season, Green Bay consistently wins the turnover ratio statistic.The Packers, during the course of their 19-game winning streak, are a plus-31 in the turnover category (51 takeaways, 20 giveaways) and they've either won or tied the turnover battle in 18 of those games, with only a minus-1 turnover ratio in Green Bay's first-round playoff win at Philadelphia marring that trend.• Unlike the Colts' stance of two years ago, when Indy seemingly shied away from its shot at perfection, the Packers seem eager to carry the weight and expectation that comes with their historical accomplishments. They might rest some key starters, but only after they first secure another victory, or six."Players want to play, and we're all competitors here,'' Matthews said this week. "We play each and every Sunday to win ballgames. Obviously we've got to be smart, but we like winning. I like winning. I think we're going to try to win some ballgames around here."It's something only one other team in the history of the NFL has done. It's something pretty special.''Indeed. Something pretty special is unfolding in Green Bay, and I think it's about time we all started paying a little closer attention. Even if it means tearing ourselves away from Tebow Time.
It sure does seem funny that the Packers are seemingly not getting the coverage of Tebow or Brady. I read Peter Kings MMQB article this weekend and he barely mentioned them. I think their business as usual attitude and lack of prima donnas really does keep the press off of them. But you are seeing history unfold right in front of your eyes with this team. Enjoy it.
 
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Love watching the high powered offense and I'm heavily into them for fantasy... but I don't think they've had the most compelling schedule this season.

Not surprised if they do or don't run the table...

 
Because it's not really compelling until they do it. The reason the whole Tebow thing is so overplayed is because there's equal parts love/hate on both sides to fuel the debate. Meanwhile, the average Packers conversation goes something like:

"Geez, these guys are good!" :mellow:

"I know right!" :mellow:

Just wake us when you finish the perfect season. :yawn:

I have a bunch of Packers friends on Facebook and Twitter. They barely muster up a "Go Pack Go" Sunday morning at this point. I dare say they're almost bored with winning. Not just the winning, but the way they're winning. You can count the number of mildly suspenseful 4th quarters for the Pack on one hand this season. AMAZING?! Yes. Compelling? No. Not from what I've seen.

 
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Because it's not really compelling until they do it. The reason the whole Tebow thing is so overplayed is because there's equal parts love/hate on both sides to fuel the debate. Meanwhile, the average Packers conversation goes something like:"Geez, these guys are good!" :mellow: "I know right!" :mellow: Just wake us when you finish the perfect season. :yawn: I have a bunch of Packers friends on Facebook and Twitter. They barely muster up a "Go Pack Go" Sunday morning at this point. I dare say they're almost bored with winning. Not just the winning, but the way they're winning. You can count the number of mildly suspenseful 4th quarters for the Pack on one hand this season. AMAZING?! Yes. Compelling? No. Not from what I've seen.
:goodposting: Stories require drama or some sort of discussion point, there is no drama in Green Bay. The only discussion point is where they rank all-time, and that just isn't interesting enough right now.
 
'FantasyTrader said:
Because it's not really compelling until they do it. The reason the whole Tebow thing is so overplayed is because there's equal parts love/hate on both sides to fuel the debate. Meanwhile, the average Packers conversation goes something like:

"Geez, these guys are good!" :mellow:

"I know right!" :mellow:

Just wake us when you finish the perfect season. :yawn:

I have a bunch of Packers friends on Facebook and Twitter. They barely muster up a "Go Pack Go" Sunday morning at this point. I dare say they're almost bored with winning. Not just the winning, but the way they're winning. You can count the number of mildly suspenseful 4th quarters for the Pack on one hand this season. AMAZING?! Yes. Compelling? No. Not from what I've seen.
I find this hard to believe :banned:
 
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'FantasyTrader said:
Because it's not really compelling until they do it. The reason the whole Tebow thing is so overplayed is because there's equal parts love/hate on both sides to fuel the debate. Meanwhile, the average Packers conversation goes something like:"Geez, these guys are good!" :mellow: "I know right!" :mellow: Just wake us when you finish the perfect season. :yawn: I have a bunch of Packers friends on Facebook and Twitter. They barely muster up a "Go Pack Go" Sunday morning at this point. I dare say they're almost bored with winning. Not just the winning, but the way they're winning. You can count the number of mildly suspenseful 4th quarters for the Pack on one hand this season. AMAZING?! Yes. Compelling? No. Not from what I've seen.
:goodposting: Except for the Go Pack Go. It's still there, just a little quieter. There's a feeling of don't pinch me I don't want to wake up.
 
'FantasyTrader said:
You can count the number of mildly suspenseful 4th quarters for the Pack on one hand this season.
Well, first of all each team has played 13 games so far this season. How many NFL teams have had more than 5 super-suspenseful 4th quarters this year?Second, let's list out the "mildly suspenseful" 4th quarters for the Pack so far:- Week 1: vs New Orleans. This was an exciting game from start-to-finish. The Saints had a realistic shot to win this game. The 4th quarter was awesome.- Week 2: @Carolina. Green Bay was losing at halftime. They had a strong 3rd quarter, but Carolina still closed to within 7 points and created some noise in the 4th quarter.....including the Pack stopping them inside the 5 yd-line early in the 4th quarter, and again in the middle of the quarter when the Panthers went for it on 4th and goal from the 3.....while down by only 7 points. Oh yeah, and Jordy Nelson caught an 84-yard TD. Very exciting 4th quarter.- Week 7: @Minnesota. Packers led by 16 going into the 4th quarter, but Ponder rallied the team to score 10 points and get within 6 points. Minnesota got the ball back down 6 pts with 5:26 to go. Sure, they got "ponder'd" in the end, but it was a fun 4th quarter to watch.- Week 9: @San Diego. Awesome game, great 4th quarter. Pack was only up 7 points going into the quarter, scored twice, San Diego fans left the game, then they came back to score again twice and close the gap. San Diego had the ball twice with a chance to tie the score.....and the Pack defense stopped them. I know this was a great game --- because I was there in person.- Week 11: Tampa Bay. Packers led 21-13 going into the 4th. Tampa closed the gap to 28-26 with 4 minutes left to play, but Rodgers drove for a score in just 3 plays, culminating in a 40-yd Jordy Nelson TD. Another fun 4th quarter to watch.- Week 13: @NY Giants. Giants tie the game with less than 1 minute remaining. Rodgers drives length of field....Crosby kicks FG with no time left. Anyone who saw this game knows it was awesome.Not sure what others thought, but I've watched every Packer game this year and found all of the above games exciting, even (or especially) in the 4th quarter.
 
'Sabertooth said:
'Fightin Donkey said:
Did Bill Cowher really call them the greatest team in NFL history last week?
Who was better?
Really?
That's what I thought. They've already got the ring. They are two victories away from the longest win streak. So far so good. So, so, very good.
I don't know, I think it's kind of inflated. Not to take away from what they've done, but they barely made it into the playoffs last year and got hot at the right time (happens alot in the NFL) and they haven't exactly played a tough schedule this year, playing only a few real good teams and while I give them credit for beating those teams, they weren't exactly blowouts. What they've done with their win streak is incredible and I certainly can't blame them for their schedule (they didn't make it), but unless they win the superbowl again this year (which I personally don't think they will) they don't deserve to be anywhere near the conversation of greatest team ever.
 
'FantasyTrader said:
You can count the number of mildly suspenseful 4th quarters for the Pack on one hand this season.
Well, first of all each team has played 13 games so far this season. How many NFL teams have had more than 5 super-suspenseful 4th quarters this year?Second, let's list out the "mildly suspenseful" 4th quarters for the Pack so far:- Week 1: vs New Orleans. This was an exciting game from start-to-finish. The Saints had a realistic shot to win this game. The 4th quarter was awesome.- Week 2: @Carolina. Green Bay was losing at halftime. They had a strong 3rd quarter, but Carolina still closed to within 7 points and created some noise in the 4th quarter.....including the Pack stopping them inside the 5 yd-line early in the 4th quarter, and again in the middle of the quarter when the Panthers went for it on 4th and goal from the 3.....while down by only 7 points. Oh yeah, and Jordy Nelson caught an 84-yard TD. Very exciting 4th quarter.- Week 7: @Minnesota. Packers led by 16 going into the 4th quarter, but Ponder rallied the team to score 10 points and get within 6 points. Minnesota got the ball back down 6 pts with 5:26 to go. Sure, they got "ponder'd" in the end, but it was a fun 4th quarter to watch.- Week 9: @San Diego. Awesome game, great 4th quarter. Pack was only up 7 points going into the quarter, scored twice, San Diego fans left the game, then they came back to score again twice and close the gap. San Diego had the ball twice with a chance to tie the score.....and the Pack defense stopped them. I know this was a great game --- because I was there in person.- Week 11: Tampa Bay. Packers led 21-13 going into the 4th. Tampa closed the gap to 28-26 with 4 minutes left to play, but Rodgers drove for a score in just 3 plays, culminating in a 40-yd Jordy Nelson TD. Another fun 4th quarter to watch.- Week 13: @NY Giants. Giants tie the game with less than 1 minute remaining. Rodgers drives length of field....Crosby kicks FG with no time left. Anyone who saw this game knows it was awesome.Not sure what others thought, but I've watched every Packer game this year and found all of the above games exciting, even (or especially) in the 4th quarter.
Fair enough. You and I differ on what we consider suspenseful. All of your examples of Packers leading 21-13 or up 16 heading into the 4th, but the other team rallys from behind to close the gap - that's garbage time stuff. A few of the games you mentioned were closer on the scoreboard than the play on the field. Your statements like, "Very exciting 4th quarter" or "was a fun 4th quarter to watch" - that's not what I'm talking about. Packers games are ALWAYS exciting or at least interesting, I love watching this offense. But we're talking about suspense. Where you get the feeling the Packers are going to lose (or in genuine danger of losing) and they come from behind. I haven't seen it.(I agree with you, the Giants game was awesome)
 
'FantasyTrader said:
You can count the number of mildly suspenseful 4th quarters for the Pack on one hand this season.
Well, first of all each team has played 13 games so far this season. How many NFL teams have had more than 5 super-suspenseful 4th quarters this year?Second, let's list out the "mildly suspenseful" 4th quarters for the Pack so far:- Week 1: vs New Orleans. This was an exciting game from start-to-finish. The Saints had a realistic shot to win this game. The 4th quarter was awesome.- Week 2: @Carolina. Green Bay was losing at halftime. They had a strong 3rd quarter, but Carolina still closed to within 7 points and created some noise in the 4th quarter.....including the Pack stopping them inside the 5 yd-line early in the 4th quarter, and again in the middle of the quarter when the Panthers went for it on 4th and goal from the 3.....while down by only 7 points. Oh yeah, and Jordy Nelson caught an 84-yard TD. Very exciting 4th quarter.- Week 7: @Minnesota. Packers led by 16 going into the 4th quarter, but Ponder rallied the team to score 10 points and get within 6 points. Minnesota got the ball back down 6 pts with 5:26 to go. Sure, they got "ponder'd" in the end, but it was a fun 4th quarter to watch.- Week 9: @San Diego. Awesome game, great 4th quarter. Pack was only up 7 points going into the quarter, scored twice, San Diego fans left the game, then they came back to score again twice and close the gap. San Diego had the ball twice with a chance to tie the score.....and the Pack defense stopped them. I know this was a great game --- because I was there in person.- Week 11: Tampa Bay. Packers led 21-13 going into the 4th. Tampa closed the gap to 28-26 with 4 minutes left to play, but Rodgers drove for a score in just 3 plays, culminating in a 40-yd Jordy Nelson TD. Another fun 4th quarter to watch.- Week 13: @NY Giants. Giants tie the game with less than 1 minute remaining. Rodgers drives length of field....Crosby kicks FG with no time left. Anyone who saw this game knows it was awesome.Not sure what others thought, but I've watched every Packer game this year and found all of the above games exciting, even (or especially) in the 4th quarter.
Fair enough. You and I differ on what we consider suspenseful. All of your examples of Packers leading 21-13 or up 16 heading into the 4th, but the other team rallys from behind to close the gap - that's garbage time stuff. A few of the games you mentioned were closer on the scoreboard than the play on the field. Your statements like, "Very exciting 4th quarter" or "was a fun 4th quarter to watch" - that's not what I'm talking about. Packers games are ALWAYS exciting or at least interesting, I love watching this offense. But we're talking about suspense. Where you get the feeling the Packers are going to lose (or in genuine danger of losing) and they come from behind. I haven't seen it.(I agree with you, the Giants game was awesome)
Saints game - opening NFL game - was phenomenal. And yes, there was suspense. Not just in the 4th quarter, but the entire game. It was one of the best games of the year (NFL, not just Packers).San Diego game looked like a blowout, but the Chargers came back and had real chances to tie the game. As mentioned, I was at the game. It was EXTREMELY tense during the final 8-10 minutes. Sure, a few of the other games are reaches. But you're earlier post made it seem like every game was a freaking blowout that you basically could have turned off at halftime. Not even close to accurate.
 
'Sabertooth said:
'Fightin Donkey said:
Did Bill Cowher really call them the greatest team in NFL history last week?
Who was better?
Really?
That's what I thought. They've already got the ring. They are two victories away from the longest win streak. So far so good. So, so, very good.
I don't know, I think it's kind of inflated. Not to take away from what they've done, but they barely made it into the playoffs last year and got hot at the right time (happens alot in the NFL) and they haven't exactly played a tough schedule this year, playing only a few real good teams and while I give them credit for beating those teams, they weren't exactly blowouts.

What they've done with their win streak is incredible and I certainly can't blame them for their schedule (they didn't make it), but unless they win the superbowl again this year (which I personally don't think they will) they don't deserve to be anywhere near the conversation of greatest team ever.
:lmao: Not saying they are the greatest team ever, but they certainly belong in the conversation. I think what's even more impressive than their current winning streak is that they have not trailed in the 4th quarter during the streak.

 
Sure, a few of the other games are reaches...
Well wait a minute, which is it? You listed what you believe to be six suspenseful 4th quarter games the Packers have had this year. Then you acknowledge a few of those are reaches. I said you can count the number on one hand. So that's a fairly accurate statement right? Six minus "a few" can be counted on one hand.
 
I asked in another thread and not sure if it is easily found but what was the Patriots opponents winning percentage when they went 16-0? The '72' Dolphins? The current Packers? I have a feeling that the Packers opponents are not that good in respect to the others.

 
Sure, a few of the other games are reaches...
Well wait a minute, which is it? You listed what you believe to be six suspenseful 4th quarter games the Packers have had this year. Then you acknowledge a few of those are reaches. I said you can count the number on one hand. So that's a fairly accurate statement right? Six minus "a few" can be counted on one hand.
:lmao: I'm being polite. It's not clear that you've even watched most of their games. Further, you haven't exactly laid out a clear fact base that illustrates why "counting on one hand" is the right benchmark. Example: if the average NFL team has only had 1-2 suspenseful 4th quarters this year, then "counting on one hand" sounds pretty good, no?Anyway, I articulated my thoughts on 6 games. Feel free to poke holes. But please, be a bit more specific and accurate than throwing out blanket statements without having a ####### clue.
 
Sure, a few of the other games are reaches...
Well wait a minute, which is it? You listed what you believe to be six suspenseful 4th quarter games the Packers have had this year. Then you acknowledge a few of those are reaches. I said you can count the number on one hand. So that's a fairly accurate statement right? Six minus "a few" can be counted on one hand.
:lmao: I'm being polite. It's not clear that you've even watched most of their games. Further, you haven't exactly laid out a clear fact base that illustrates why "counting on one hand" is the right benchmark. Example: if the average NFL team has only had 1-2 suspenseful 4th quarters this year, then "counting on one hand" sounds pretty good, no?Anyway, I articulated my thoughts on 6 games. Feel free to poke holes. But please, be a bit more specific and accurate than throwing out blanket statements without having a ####### clue.
Not that I'm about to go through all 416 NFL games played so far to back my reasoning with stats, but I can guarantee that at a minimum 20 NFL teams have had more intriguing 4th quarters. Regardless, you sound like a Packers fan that desperately needs this run to have been more compelling than it really has been. That their season has been chalk full of gut-check, come from behind, suspense-filled victories. That's simply not true.
 
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The Packers are the best team in the history or the universe. Their fans are cream of the crop, too. Just ask them and they'll tell you all about it.....

 
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Sure, a few of the other games are reaches...
Well wait a minute, which is it? You listed what you believe to be six suspenseful 4th quarter games the Packers have had this year. Then you acknowledge a few of those are reaches. I said you can count the number on one hand. So that's a fairly accurate statement right? Six minus "a few" can be counted on one hand.
:lmao: I'm being polite. It's not clear that you've even watched most of their games. Further, you haven't exactly laid out a clear fact base that illustrates why "counting on one hand" is the right benchmark. Example: if the average NFL team has only had 1-2 suspenseful 4th quarters this year, then "counting on one hand" sounds pretty good, no?Anyway, I articulated my thoughts on 6 games. Feel free to poke holes. But please, be a bit more specific and accurate than throwing out blanket statements without having a ####### clue.
Not that I'm about to go through all 416 NFL games played so far to back my reasoning with stats, but I can guarantee that at a minimum 20 NFL teams have had more intriguing 4th quarters. Regardless, you sound like a Packers fan that desperately needs this run to have been more compelling than it really has been. That their season has been chalk full of gut-check, come from behind, suspense-filled victories. That's simply not true.
Yeah, that's exactly what I wrote. Great job with reading comprehension. You made a blanket statement. You haven't backed it up. Get over yourself. :rolleyes:
 
'Mario Kart said:
I asked in another thread and not sure if it is easily found but what was the Patriots opponents winning percentage when they went 16-0? The '72' Dolphins? The current Packers? I have a feeling that the Packers opponents are not that good in respect to the others.
Miami 1972 - 0.367New England 2007 - 0.468Green Bay (pre-week 15) - 0.444More relevant, would be the average Simple Rating System score of each of their opponents. For GB, it's -1.3, NE it's 0.4, and MIA it's -4.3.
 
But Green Bay has still been dominant to a ridiculous degree. The Packers have played 52 quarters so far this season, and led at the end of 44 of them, or 85 percent of the time.
That's pretty impressive, although not the highest mark of all-time.
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tm.yr	win     loss    tie     win%	g	qt	win	percchi1942	11	0	0	1.000	11	44	38	86.4%clt1968	13	1	0	0.929	14	56	48	85.7%min1969	12	2	0	0.857	14	56	48	85.7%ram1999	13	3	0	0.813	16	64	54	84.4%mia1972	14	0	0	1.000	14	56	47	83.9%chi1948	10	2	0	0.833	12	48	40	83.3%nwe2007	16	0	0	1.000	16	64	53	82.8%dal1968	12	2	0	0.857	14	56	46	82.1%min1998	15	1	0	0.938	16	64	52	81.3%cle1953	11	1	0	0.917	12	48	39	81.3%was1983	14	2	0	0.875	16	64	52	81.3%cle1954	9	3	0	0.750	12	48	39	81.3%
If you exclude week 17, the '83 Redskins also jump on the list to 85%.
 

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