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David Yudkin
Footballguy
Can't speak for the other guys, but Norwood was not even on my draft list. He may have been if we had more roster spots. Maybe someday down the road he takes over, but IMO he may have gone a bit too early.
yeah, I'm in week 2 of 6 weeks. However this week is 10 days straight so it'll be week 2 +3 technically.
I predrafted 2 rounds. If I can pull off a trade I'd like to "axe" those predrafts.
I'd like to trade up now. I'd like 2 picks in round 11. Anyone want to trade? please contact me soon, with the serpentine corner, my next pick isn't so far away really
thanks
I predrafted 2 rounds. If I can pull off a trade I'd like to "axe" those predrafts.
I'd like to trade up now. I'd like 2 picks in round 11. Anyone want to trade? please contact me soon, with the serpentine corner, my next pick isn't so far away really
thanks
I feel pretty good about my squad so far as well.Family Matters
Footballguy
That was the exact strategy I had originally gone with. When Bulger was still on the board at 6.12 I decided to make my move and change strategies. Just letting the draft come to me.FWIW-Warner and Plummer are 2 QB sleepers I have for 2006. Plummer's numbers should take a bump for 2 reasonsAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I feel MUCH better now
Look out FMI am not handing you the division
1. No RB1 could mean a few carries less.
2. Walker could mean a few more deep passes that someone can actually catch. lol
With Warner, if you look at his per game numbers when healthy, he projects out around 5000 yards. Az is a pass first team and I have no doubt his yardage, if healthy, will be 4000+. Add 20-25 TD's and he's a solid late round play for 2006.
Good luck with them 2. And I love the Cutler pick too.
Team Legacy
Footballguy
While some teams disliked the Norwood pick, I thought it was about right. Drew falls into the same category of a boom / bust player. Most of the known backs are already labeled bust, so at least we still have a shot at the boom.
Did that make sense?
Did that make sense?
I was planning on one of them, not for need, just felt they fell too far and were a good value.
Plummer isn't done because of Cutler. He's hardly old. At worst he plays for a new team in a year or two but it seems to me like people are acting like he's old and done. Not IMO. His TD to INT ratio has been pretty sharp too during certain stretches over the last two years. That's a coach's dream. Cutler will have to earn the spot, he won't be handed it if Plummer's got a good ratio going.
Plummer isn't done because of Cutler. He's hardly old. At worst he plays for a new team in a year or two but it seems to me like people are acting like he's old and done. Not IMO. His TD to INT ratio has been pretty sharp too during certain stretches over the last two years. That's a coach's dream. Cutler will have to earn the spot, he won't be handed it if Plummer's got a good ratio going.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
League starter ends up with Larry Johnson and Shaun Alexander.
Family Matters
Footballguy
Sonny we all know you can be a jerk from time to time but this a new low even for you. If you've got something useful to say then say it. But if you're looking to stir up trouble then I suggest you find another place. You're accusatory tone is unwelcomed and unwarrented. Don't hide behind your sarcasim as you usually do. Care to ealborate? What exactly are you suggesting with this comment?League starter ends up with Larry Johnson and Shaun Alexander.
Family Matters
Footballguy
Of course the forum jerk would be the one. What a surprise.was wonderring when that comment would come(from somebody)all's cool with me FM, for all we know Radballs will win because of that tradeLeague starter ends up with Larry Johnson and Shaun Alexander.
Relax FM - it's not like somebody in the league made the comment - the guy has no clue as to what had to happen to make that even a remote possibility
1) rad found the polesitter as the best trade partner
2) polesitter tried to trade down and couldn't find a partner
3) TWO different teams had to pass on SA at three AND four
The odds against are astronomical
AND aside from looking good on paper, that team hasn't won diddly yet
1) rad found the polesitter as the best trade partner
2) polesitter tried to trade down and couldn't find a partner
3) TWO different teams had to pass on SA at three AND four
The odds against are astronomical
AND aside from looking good on paper, that team hasn't won diddly yet
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Sonny we all know you can be a jerk from time to time but this a new low even for you. If you've got something useful to say then say it. But if you're looking to stir up trouble then I suggest you find another place. You're accusatory tone is unwelcomed and unwarrented. Don't hide behind your sarcasim as you usually do. Care to ealborate? What exactly are you suggesting with this comment?League starter ends up with Larry Johnson and Shaun Alexander.
"Unwarranted"? Really? I wouldn't go that far.Just callin' it like I see it.
You can't think that I am the only one thinkin' that, can you? Nah, don't be silly.
Family Matters
Footballguy
That's my point. He has no clue but yet he chose to say it anyway. It tells you a lot about is character.
If he had character he might of asked about it but he chose to question it as though something wrong had occurred.Normally I ignore his idiocy but I couldn't allow that to go unchecked. My apologies to the rest of you.
Team Legacy
Footballguy
personally speaking, i never take a kicker that early.
I'll elaborate more once the draft is over.
Some commentary:
I did a WSL draft a few months back and well this is my first draft in a long while. I've been fooled sometimes and surprised with some developments quite a few times.
Good young WRs have lasted far longer than I expected. Enterring round 16 I'm looking to fill out my roster like most do as a draft winds down. Instead, I'd like to be cherry picking some WRs. My recent Reggie Williams pick was right off the cusp of Jimmy Smith retiring. I wouldn't have taken him but he's likely a starter with Matt Jones now. Ernest Wilford seems to be a good WR too but IMO doesn't seem to be the thoroughbred's that Williams and Jones are. In May and June drafts, there's usually some news and suddenly someone gets a later steal in the draft. IE Some player gets cut June 1st and his backup is the starter by default and a "steal" that wasn't their until that very cut took place. I'm hoping I caught Reggie at the right time. For Jax, they're gonna need some serious production from these young WRs as Jimmy retired with Hall of fame caliber stats.
Oddly enough Jimmy's retirement made me wonder when his buddy Keenan McCardell will retire. The older but productive WRs last so much longer than I expected like Rod Smith, Isaac Bruce, and Keenan. More WR value late that "threw me".
Last year was my first time trying a survivor league. In Survivor leagues, QBs seem to be a high priority with team's scooping them up at points that would be way too early in other drafts. I planned on 4 QBs and I thought I had this coverred with both Warner and Plummer still on board. Cap'n really put a dagger in those plans by drafting both back to back. It was a perfect plan as I'd get good QBs later than most and with Fitz, Boldin, Rod, and Javon they had some solid targets to throw to which makes their success seem like a foregone conclusion in 06. That turn by Cap'n really threw me and I had to regroup. At this point I'm thinking about just rolling with 2 QBs. That's very risky ut with the pickings being so slim it'd be pointless to take a QB for the sake of taking one.
WRs Owens and Holt should carry me most weeks. Of course I wish this was a couple years ago but those two should be pro bowl players in 06 too and still put up fierce stats. New coaches aside, I have little worry about them.
Gado seems to be a sound pick. Since this is a dynasty league, if he's not real useful in 06 he will be in future years as he seems to be Green Bay's runningback of the future. I'm a Najeh fan but the news seems to read like it's going to be a competition between Gado and Green. Pretty good situation for a back KC cut about a year ago.
KC has had the best backups for a few years. Blaylock and LJ would come in for Priest and light it up for about 90-100 yards and 2-3 TDs. Last year, LJ, of course took that to a new level of greatness. No KC backup RB has been taken in the first 15 rounds. That makes me tempted to take a stab at one but upon further thought who? Griffin was cut by them a year ago in favor of Dee Brown. Dee Brown was cut a few months later, then re-signed during the season and he didn't do squat for them in 05. Jonathan McKenzie Smith was a good NFLE runner in 2005 that was a constant on their practice squad and rarely ever active for games. Quite frankly, they all stink. I should be considerring one now but "my gut" tells me the Chiefs are going to hit the June waiver wire for a RB and none of these are truly LJ's backup. If I had to pick it'd be Priest Holmes but is the guy even gonna play this year? So this NFL roster spot that's always been a value(KC's backup RB) is bugging me as I can't pinpoint whom and grab that player.
Vinatieri seems to be a sound pick. Arguably the leagues best kicker going to one of the league's best offenses in Indy.
The Giants D I'm extrewmely high on right now and I was glad to get them. I just don't see how a team can block Osi and Strahan. Most team's don't have the two high quality Tackles necessary to do so. Lavar Arrington should enjoy a ton of freedom to pick his spots to rush the passer. Suppose he lines up outside of Strahan. If the TE has to stay in to block Strahan, who is staying in to help with Lavar? The RB? Well if so then the remaining defenders have such a favorable matchup to cover the WRs. The G-men revamped their secondary which should in turn buy those pass rushers a second which has gotta be scary for opposing Ds. If William Joseph plays half as well as he was expected to when he was drafted ....... Antonio Pierce is one of the best run stuffers today and well I'm just really high on this D for 2006. They have enough weapons that opposing QBs will likely try to be creative and overthink which is usually a precursor to fumbles and INTs.
Jamal Lewis ran for 2k yards a couple years ago. Last year he had as rough an offseason as anybody had and played like a RB not in "football shape" both mentally and physically. While I think he'll be fine in 2006, his numerous knee injuries could limit his long term value in this dynasty league.
Ronnie Brown should have probably gone a couple picks after me. If Ricky Williams stayed and played with the Fins he might have even gone a full round later. Ricky didn't and it is officially Ronnie's job with no competition. A very good young RB is like gold in dynasty leagues so I "had to" draft him.
I did a WSL draft a few months back and well this is my first draft in a long while. I've been fooled sometimes and surprised with some developments quite a few times.
Good young WRs have lasted far longer than I expected. Enterring round 16 I'm looking to fill out my roster like most do as a draft winds down. Instead, I'd like to be cherry picking some WRs. My recent Reggie Williams pick was right off the cusp of Jimmy Smith retiring. I wouldn't have taken him but he's likely a starter with Matt Jones now. Ernest Wilford seems to be a good WR too but IMO doesn't seem to be the thoroughbred's that Williams and Jones are. In May and June drafts, there's usually some news and suddenly someone gets a later steal in the draft. IE Some player gets cut June 1st and his backup is the starter by default and a "steal" that wasn't their until that very cut took place. I'm hoping I caught Reggie at the right time. For Jax, they're gonna need some serious production from these young WRs as Jimmy retired with Hall of fame caliber stats.
Oddly enough Jimmy's retirement made me wonder when his buddy Keenan McCardell will retire. The older but productive WRs last so much longer than I expected like Rod Smith, Isaac Bruce, and Keenan. More WR value late that "threw me".
Last year was my first time trying a survivor league. In Survivor leagues, QBs seem to be a high priority with team's scooping them up at points that would be way too early in other drafts. I planned on 4 QBs and I thought I had this coverred with both Warner and Plummer still on board. Cap'n really put a dagger in those plans by drafting both back to back. It was a perfect plan as I'd get good QBs later than most and with Fitz, Boldin, Rod, and Javon they had some solid targets to throw to which makes their success seem like a foregone conclusion in 06. That turn by Cap'n really threw me and I had to regroup. At this point I'm thinking about just rolling with 2 QBs. That's very risky ut with the pickings being so slim it'd be pointless to take a QB for the sake of taking one.
WRs Owens and Holt should carry me most weeks. Of course I wish this was a couple years ago but those two should be pro bowl players in 06 too and still put up fierce stats. New coaches aside, I have little worry about them.
Gado seems to be a sound pick. Since this is a dynasty league, if he's not real useful in 06 he will be in future years as he seems to be Green Bay's runningback of the future. I'm a Najeh fan but the news seems to read like it's going to be a competition between Gado and Green. Pretty good situation for a back KC cut about a year ago.
KC has had the best backups for a few years. Blaylock and LJ would come in for Priest and light it up for about 90-100 yards and 2-3 TDs. Last year, LJ, of course took that to a new level of greatness. No KC backup RB has been taken in the first 15 rounds. That makes me tempted to take a stab at one but upon further thought who? Griffin was cut by them a year ago in favor of Dee Brown. Dee Brown was cut a few months later, then re-signed during the season and he didn't do squat for them in 05. Jonathan McKenzie Smith was a good NFLE runner in 2005 that was a constant on their practice squad and rarely ever active for games. Quite frankly, they all stink. I should be considerring one now but "my gut" tells me the Chiefs are going to hit the June waiver wire for a RB and none of these are truly LJ's backup. If I had to pick it'd be Priest Holmes but is the guy even gonna play this year? So this NFL roster spot that's always been a value(KC's backup RB) is bugging me as I can't pinpoint whom and grab that player.
Vinatieri seems to be a sound pick. Arguably the leagues best kicker going to one of the league's best offenses in Indy.
The Giants D I'm extrewmely high on right now and I was glad to get them. I just don't see how a team can block Osi and Strahan. Most team's don't have the two high quality Tackles necessary to do so. Lavar Arrington should enjoy a ton of freedom to pick his spots to rush the passer. Suppose he lines up outside of Strahan. If the TE has to stay in to block Strahan, who is staying in to help with Lavar? The RB? Well if so then the remaining defenders have such a favorable matchup to cover the WRs. The G-men revamped their secondary which should in turn buy those pass rushers a second which has gotta be scary for opposing Ds. If William Joseph plays half as well as he was expected to when he was drafted ....... Antonio Pierce is one of the best run stuffers today and well I'm just really high on this D for 2006. They have enough weapons that opposing QBs will likely try to be creative and overthink which is usually a precursor to fumbles and INTs.
Jamal Lewis ran for 2k yards a couple years ago. Last year he had as rough an offseason as anybody had and played like a RB not in "football shape" both mentally and physically. While I think he'll be fine in 2006, his numerous knee injuries could limit his long term value in this dynasty league.
Ronnie Brown should have probably gone a couple picks after me. If Ricky Williams stayed and played with the Fins he might have even gone a full round later. Ricky didn't and it is officially Ronnie's job with no competition. A very good young RB is like gold in dynasty leagues so I "had to" draft him.
Bri?Family Matters
Footballguy
Nice post Bri. Thanks for giving us your insight.On the Jax WR's , I found your comments interesting because I always felt Wilford would be the guy over Williams. Just based on what we've seen so far. I realize that could change but I'm wondering why you felt that way? You said you liely wouldn't of taken him and now you think he's the starter. I guess I'm wondering if Jax fells the same.
On McCardell, I get the feeling he's still got something to prove. It's as though he's been playing with a chip on his shoulder all his career.
On you QB's demand and the survivor leagues, you have to remember that they have 16 teams in those things and QB's disappear quickly. In a 12 team league you can wait a little longer. As for your QB's, Are you thinking Leinart will be the starter? Never mind.
BTW-you're WR's are awesome!
I think Holmes is done. Based on his comments about family and wanting ti be there for them healthy, I gotta think he's done.
As for Brown, I like him too. BNB sauggested I should of taken him over Alexander when I made the trade with you. It seems many of you felt the same as you guys kept passing on Alexander. But if he has 2-3 more great years, which is likely, then why wouldn't someone want that type of player? I saw the opprtunity and felt the risk and cost was easily worth it.
But Brown is in a great situation this year. Unles he fails to perform or has injury issues, I think he's set long term regardless of Ricky.
Family Matters
Footballguy
You may be right. I remember when he came out I thought he was going to replace McCardell. I even drafted him in a survivor league thinking he'd be a great late round WR. But I was wrong. I don't know what happened with him. Just seems he can do better.
Bri not copying your entire essay, but turnabout is fair play - I was actually planning on drafting Warner and Leinart together a round earlier, but you axed that by taking Leinart in front of me. So at that point I took Cutler at 9-12 and guessed (or rationalized or thought - whatever the correct term is) that I could wait another round and draft Plummer and Warner together which is what happened at 11-12 and 12-1. Very lucky for that all to come in (yet I had proposed a trade to do it differently the previous round).
I think the endgame in this draft is really fascinating.
Are some people doing this by design?
Are some people just taking the best value without worrying about how it affects their roster?
Hopefully we get some of those answers in the post draft epistles.
BTW I really liked my picks at this last turn, taking Joe Klopfenstein at 17-12 as my second TE and then being lucky enough to still find Ladell Betts available at 18-1. As I said on the draft board, I think Betts real value is next year when he escapes Portis' shadow as a FA, but he always seems to have one or two decent games during the year - I am just hoping they mesh with my needs from my RB5
I think the endgame in this draft is really fascinating.
Are some people doing this by design?
Are some people just taking the best value without worrying about how it affects their roster?
Hopefully we get some of those answers in the post draft epistles.
BTW I really liked my picks at this last turn, taking Joe Klopfenstein at 17-12 as my second TE and then being lucky enough to still find Ladell Betts available at 18-1. As I said on the draft board, I think Betts real value is next year when he escapes Portis' shadow as a FA, but he always seems to have one or two decent games during the year - I am just hoping they mesh with my needs from my RB5
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I have a lot of reservations about Betts' chances for future success. He will be a 28-year-old unproven back that couldn't emerge in the two years prior to Portis coming to town (back when the Skins really had no one else at RB). Washington gave up on Davis and instead opted for Kenny Watson. The following year they went with Trung Canidate and Rock Cartwright. I'm not sure any team will give him a chance at anything more than a backup role at this point. Not a lot lost on your end if he doesn't pan out, so not great loss if he remains a reserve.
DY - we can argue his value if you want (I don't - I though there was some, so I took him) but let's be clear on the facts:46 Betts, Ladell RB 5'10'' 222 08/27/1979 5 Iowa
That makes him 27 at the start of this year - yes he will be 28 next season, but that gives him this year to add to what he has already done, and he has never been given a chance to be the guy. Prior to this winter, you might have said the same of Chester Taylor.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
If we get into debates on 18th round picks, we'll be here all day, but I knew Betts would be 28 NEXT year not this (once he was a FA).As for his track record, he's had a couple of nice games in Weeks 16 and 17 over the years, so it's not like he's NEVER done anything.
The main difference between him and Taylor is that Taylor had always been behind a stud back while Betts has not. Betts seemingly had chances prior to Portis coming in and the team did not see him as an option (if they did, they sure didn't give him much of a chance).
We're all pretty much fishing at this point anyway, so all of us need help for any of these picks to have any true value. Maybe he goes out next year and becomes a starter someplace else. For now, he's as good a backup as any other, I suppose. It's all speculation at this point one way or the other.
Family Matters
Footballguy
Nice. Maybe Pennington is a decent QB but we just don't know it yet. Maybe if he play 16 games we'll see how good he is. ABTW-it must suck to be a JETS fan.
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
What does it tell you when McCareins was drafted but Pennington and Ramsey have not been through 19 rounds.
Family Matters
Footballguy
Tells me I got value with that pick. The way I see it, we don't know the QB situation at this time. But it can't be any worse then last year. As far as I'm concerned, they can only get better and that means Justin should see better days as well.
