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The Godfather vs. The Godfather: Part II (1 Viewer)

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  • Godfather

    Votes: 89 43.8%

  • Godfather II

    Votes: 64 31.5%

  • Like them both equally

    Votes: 42 20.7%

  • Never saw The Godfather

    Votes: 3 1.5%

  • Never saw The Godfather: Part II

    Votes: 5 2.5%
  • Total voters
    203
After seeing Richard Castellano huffing and puffing on the dance floor, I looked up his age. I figured he was in early fifties during the filming.

He wasn't even forty. :unsure:

 
Montana became involved with the Colombo Organized Crime family in the late 1960s.[12] Tall and very heavily built, his talents were mostly as an enforcer and an arsonist. He would tie a tampon to the tail of a mouse, dip it in kerosene, light it, and let the mouse run through a building, or he would put a candle in front of a cuckoo clock so that when the clock's bird would pop out the candle would be knocked over and start a fire.[13] Eventually, Montana ended up doing time in Riker's Island Prison.[14] Upon being released, as a friend of the family, Montana would act as a bodyguard for many of the senior members of the Colombo Family.
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The guy who played Luca Brasi....

Montana was so nervous about appearing opposite Brando that he kept practicing his lines over and over again. Francis Ford Coppola rewrote the scene to feature this.[18] Montana also suffered an attack of nerves during the scene where his character thanked the Don; Coppola also wrote this into the script as Brasi being overwhelmed by the Don's invitation to his daughter's wedding. He had little screen time in the role of Luca Brasi, but his notable height and physique caught the eye of producers, and he appeared in several movies and television programs after appearing in The Godfather.
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Montana became involved with the Colombo Organized Crime family in the late 1960s.[12] Tall and very heavily built, his talents were mostly as an enforcer and an arsonist. He would tie a tampon to the tail of a mouse, dip it in kerosene, light it, and let the mouse run through a building, or he would put a candle in front of a cuckoo clock so that when the clock's bird would pop out the candle would be knocked over and start a fire.[13] Eventually, Montana ended up doing time in Riker's Island Prison.[14] Upon being released, as a friend of the family, Montana would act as a bodyguard for many of the senior members of the Colombo Family.
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The guy who played Luca Brasi....

Montana was so nervous about appearing opposite Brando that he kept practicing his lines over and over again. Francis Ford Coppola rewrote the scene to feature this.[18] Montana also suffered an attack of nerves during the scene where his character thanked the Don; Coppola also wrote this into the script as Brasi being overwhelmed by the Don's invitation to his daughter's wedding. He had little screen time in the role of Luca Brasi, but his notable height and physique caught the eye of producers, and he appeared in several movies and television programs after appearing in The Godfather.
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I can't believe Sollozzo didn't fall for his story about switching families.

 
I am fluent in Italian culture and language, and I can't say I understand the Sicilians. I dated a Sicilian broad once (direct from the source), and I was pretty sure she wanted to kill me. She was so ####### gorgeous though, from Agrigento. Only thing more dangerous than a Sicilian woman is found backstage at a Megadeath concert.

 
I still think my favorite part of this movie is right here, how Tom calmly finishes his meal as Woltz is screaming at him.

 
Alessandro Lettieri who played Sollozzo, died three years after the film was released at the age of 47. See what heroin does!!!!!

 
Clemenza's character in I was supposed to be in II, but Coppola said his agent wanted control of his lines. Oops!

Also died of a heart attack at a relatively young age(55).

 
Where did the character Frankie "Five Angels" Pentangeli come from?Coppola and Puzo originally intended for the character Peter Clemenza (Richard S. Castellano) to return and to focus on his troubles managing the New York family and his betrayal of Michael Corleone. However, Castellano demanded too much money to return and, in addition, wanted his girlfriend at the time to rewrite his dialogue. Rather than give in, Coppola wrote out Clemenza, explaining that he'd died in the intervening time between Pts I & II, and replaced him with his Lieutenant, Frankie Pentangeli (Michael V. Gazzo). Clemenza is still in the movie, albeit as a younger man in the 1917 scenes, played by Bruno Kirby.
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Where did the character Frankie "Five Angels" Pentangeli come from?Coppola and Puzo originally intended for the character Peter Clemenza (Richard S. Castellano) to return and to focus on his troubles managing the New York family and his betrayal of Michael Corleone. However, Castellano demanded too much money to return and, in addition, wanted his girlfriend at the time to rewrite his dialogue. Rather than give in, Coppola wrote out Clemenza, explaining that he'd died in the intervening time between Pts I & II, and replaced him with his Lieutenant, Frankie Pentangeli (Michael V. Gazzo). Clemenza is still in the movie, albeit as a younger man in the 1917 scenes, played by Bruno Kirby.
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In retrospect, that seems unwise

 
Sterling Hayden was a journeyman actor whose career was filled with B-Movies, Westerns and episodic TV. Except for two times: Dr. Strangelove, and The Godfather.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
I am fluent in Italian culture and language, and I can't say I understand the Sicilians. I dated a Sicilian broad once (direct from the source), and I was pretty sure she wanted to kill me. She

was so ####### gorgeous though, from Agrigento. Only thing more dangerous than a Sicilian woman is found backstage at a Megadeath concert.
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She wanted to kill you, just imagine what her father wanted to do to you

 
So I just watched The Godfather (or part of it) for the millionth time, and it's funny how you can continue to find new things in great movies.

It closes with a few key scenes in succession.

Michael meets with his brother, Fredo, and instructs him to never go against the family again.

Michael meets with Vito, it's the father and the son. Vito gives advice that two scenes later saves Michael's life - and the family.

Next scene it's Michael Jr. with Vito, it's the grandfather and the grandson. The old man lives out his final moments in the pure joy of fatherhood, a Sicilian, in the tomato plants, at play, in joy.

Next scene it's the funeral, thee advice comes to fruition with Abe Vigoda laying the trap - and Michael sees the bait.

Next scene it's the christening enmeshed with the mob hits, Michael finally and truly becomes "The Godfather" in family and in business.

It's really something, the "Godfather" motif (if that's what it is) really stands for several things at once and it all ties together at the end, brother, father, son, grandfather, family, birth, death, life, business, crime, virtue, and sin.

 
I have some sort of mental block where I'm always mildly surprised to remember its Pacino in the first two. Its seriously like a completely different person than the 'modern' over the top characterization version of him. He was excellent in the first two.

When/why did he turn into a cartoon? Was its slowly, or did it happen all at once? I was too young to have seen all his stuff as it came out.

 
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