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The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly...time to seperate (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

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Alright, so your all set on who to take as your RB1 in round 2 and you are going to go with best value be it RB/WR in the 2nd. Most people think they can put off getting WR till much later in the draft. And I think that is partly true. You can find a guy that might exceed his draft slot but by how much? When FF boils down to the raw numbers, the fact remains that only a handful of players a the different positions make a true difference and lead you to the championship. In fact even guys that have average years but manage to keep you in the hunt and then explode in weeks 14-17 will also be real difference makers.

So let’s get back on point. After the 1st 7-8WR that go from Steve Smith to A.Boldin you get about 17-18 WR that will make a push to try and be top 10 and maybe even the lucky will pick 1 that cracks the top5...but who? Let’s take a look at the 2nd tier of WR and see if we can find the best of those guys with the most upside that can help propel us and cover up for those awful RB2 we kept taking in the 2nd round.

I have separated them into 3 categories that will surely spark some debate. I find 4 of them have the most potential to crack the top10 or top5…mostly because they have either done it before or simply seem to be in a great situation. Let’s start with those I find risky and move towards the safer bets. I am listing them in order of the FBG projections in case there is any questions where I pulled these from.

Roy Williams: Detroit , ADP Early 4th

Risk-High, Reward-High

He had 88 targets last season so those targets are going to have to move up. He only caught 42 of them but did manage 7 TD. With Martz calling the plays you have to imagine his targets are going to go up. I have been impressed with his circus catches, but not as impressed with his making the “normal” catch and his presence on the field. Detroit lost a lot of games last season, not sure how many TD of his were when Detroit was trailing…what does that matter, right? Well I think most top5-10 WR are catching the ball even when their team is not trailing.

I think Roy is gifted but he also has had a hard time finishing the season. He has missed 5 complete games in his 1st 2 years and parts of others…that’s almost half a season. I just would like to see this guy actually produce 80 catches and 1100 yds before I select him over other WR that are safer picks right now.

Darrell Jackson: Seattle, ADP Late 3rd

Risk-Medium, Reward-Medium/High

Jackson didn’t so much in 2005 because of injury. I was sure this could be the Steve Smith of 2006 but he still has lingering injuries it seems. But also Jackson has cracked 80 receptions just once…and one other season he managed 70. His ceiling appears to be between 1,000-1,200 yds and 6-9 TD…good stats but probably not gonna leap into the top5 or 10…there is a ceiling and you have to ask yourself if his current injury situation is worth the risk. I would rather try for a WR that I know I can get production out of.

TJ Houshyomama: Cinci, ADP Early 5th

Risk-Medium, Reward-Medium

Housh is in an interesting spot. First off he might not have Palmer zipping him the ball and if Wright is going to be the guy for awhile or god forbid the season, all Bengal WR should be notched down. But the biggest threat to Housh might just be Chris Henry. If Henry can stop all his of field stuff, he has a real chance to push Housh for playing time. Housh saw 115 targets and Henry 50. What if those targets get a little more evenly distributed…you could see Housh take a decline from 950/7, down to maybe 750/5 and that is not what out want out of your WR2. I actually think housh is a major risk if you start him every week as your WR2…he is not nearly as good running 2nd on this team as Reggie Wayne is for Indy…we’ll get to Reggie a little later in this program.

Deion Branch: NE, ADP Late 5th/Early 6th

Risk-Medium, Reward Medium

As we speak Branch is in the middle of a bitter holdout. This pick makes sense if you already have a good WR1 and maybe even a 2 and are looking for some umph out of your WR3…the reason is if Branch holds out he obviously is not producing. Even if he starts I do not see him being too much more than 1,000 yds and 5-6 TD…he hasn’t given us a reason to think it yet. He looks great in Super Bowls though. He is short and has already had 1 injury plagued season. Holdouts can sometimes be candidates for injuries because they do not go thru the riggers of camp. Branch is good but he still should be in camp…this would be one of the last guys I would want to draft as my WR1.

Javon Walker: Denver, ADP Late 4th/Early 5th

Risk-Medium/High, Reward Medium/High

If Walker is totally recovered then this pick gets a little better. I am also leery of how many actual targets he will snare. Rod Smith is really the No.1 on Denver even if we all think he is older and lost a step. I think it is lofty to expect Walker to put up numbers close to what he did pre-injury in GB. No WR has had 1,200yds and 12-13 TD in Denver with Shanny as a HC. They run the ball a lot and their play action is set up beautifully because of it. I hate to project but 70 catches for 950 yds and 6-7 TD seems like a pretty good year for him after the injury and in Denver behind Rod Smith. Denver has a pretty good defense and no reason to fire the ball all over the place. When they get a lead they are going to run the ball and shorten the games. They hosted the NFC Championship last year…that is being moved to Miami this season but they still would like to try and retain what they did last year.

Joey Galloway: Tampa Bay, ADP Late 5th/Early 6th

Risk-Medium, Reward Medium

To think Joey will repeat last season seem short sighted. Michael Clayton was injured most of the season and while he is a little gimpy again this preseason you have to think he will see a lot more targets in 2006. I like Galloway and it was exciting to have snared him on many of my rosters last season, but this year he is highly likely to return to earth. If they are both healthy you could see Galloway in the 800-1,000 yds and 6-8TD area. Maybe that is a good return for this part in the draft but I feel simply lucky that I got him last year with a much later round pick, this year he seems a bit pricey.

Andre Johnson: Houston, ADP Late 4th/Early 5th

Risk-High, Reward-Medium

AJ has almost busted the 1,000 yd mark as a rookie and blew up for 1,100 yds in his 2nd season. Injuries set him back but he has not been a TD machine and that is something you have to do in order to crack the top10 usually. Add in Mould who will want his fair share of looks and I think AJ will still see a ceiling of around 1,000 yds and 5-6TD. He will look good doing it and we will hope he ends up eventually on another team but to me AJ shows a lot of risk.

OK, now I have shown you 6 WR in the 2nd tier that I think are kind of risky. But I think its OK to grab one of them if you already have a stud WR and if you can also grab a Steady Eddie as your WR3 with the hopes of using him as WR2 many weeks as well. IN a start 3WR league you don’t want to have Roy Williams, TJ Housh, and Joey Galloway as your top3 WR…I think you could be in some real trouble. Let’s look at some of the Steady Eddies.

Donald Driver: GB, ADP Middle/End 4th round

Risk-low, Reward-Medium/High

Driver is going to catch 80 balls and rack up 1,100+ yds as long as he is starting in GB. He is probably the safest pick of any Packer this season. His TD will most likely be between 5-8 for the season and he could be a nice dark horse to finish top10. Why go for a risky player at this point in the draft when you can take him and count on his points.

Hines Ward: Pittsburgh, ADP Middle/End 3rd round

Risk-low, Reward-Medium/High

Now here is a guy that has been top10. 1,000/4, 1,300/12, 1,150/10, 1000/4, 975/11…this guy has posted 10+ TD 3 of the last 5 seasons. He also is a lock for 1,000 yds. He had over 150+ targets in ’02 and ’03…those have dropped significantly to around 110 the past 2 years…but as Rothy improves the Steelers will throw the ball more. In fact they might have trouble running as much as they would like so look for them to take to the air with Heath Miller as a nice weapon at TE, and Ward flying all over the place on the outside. What a nice catch in the middle to end of the 3rd round…you might grab a guy that could easily crack the top10 and top15-20 almost certainly.

Santana Moss: Washington, ADP Early 4th

Risk-low, Reward-high

Guy seems to be in an even better situation this year. He likes to go long, Saunders used to utilize Kennison in that way but Moss is far better in the skills department than EK ever was. Seems like he should outpace his ADP. Hard to not see him not reach 900-1,100 yds and 6-9 TD…should be productive. I see Cooley losing catched to Lloyd, not Moss as much.

Derrick Mason: Baltimore, ADP Early/Middle 5th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium

He will not break the top10 but if he can post 1,000 yds and 6-7 TD he becomes a nice safe pick as your WR2 in the 5th round. I see little risk with Mason who will be overjoyed to have McNair throwing to him again.

Eddie Kennison: KC, ADP Middle 6th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium

He is still the WR1 for KC. 900-1100 yds and 5-8 TD have been his norm the past 3 or 4 years. Even with a downtick, he is probably a 800-950 yds and 5 TD at worst type of WR…he is not a steal anymore but he has little risk. Not the upside of other guys around here though.

Rod Smith: Denver, ADP Middle 5th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium

He will love having Walker across from him. 1,000 yds and 5-7 TD seems likely for him. Again he is a safe pick and a perfect WR2 for your team to pair with a Holt or Harrison…then take a riskier WR as your WR3 or WR4.

Again I would stress that I would not want to have just safe picks on my roster either. I don’t think Smith and Mason will make the best 1-2 punch at WR for your team. You won’t lose because of it but you won’t win either.

Alright, I think there are 4 players that have the best potential to crack the top5-10. One of them definitely will be a long shot but you have to like the upside and what he can do once he ahs the ball in his hands.

Chris Chambers: Miami, ADP Middle 3rd

Risk-low/medium, Reward-X-High

Plain and simple. After Holt, Moss, and Harrison he has the most TD over the past 3 seasons with 29. Chambers has been making plays with AJ Feeley, Jay Fiedler, and Gus Ferrotte under center…now he has a guy with a cannon on his shoulder…I like Chambers to do as well as he did last year but he might do it a bit more evenly…he also has the ability to explode…something many in the above tier will not do. Those that do not shy away from Chambers will be rewarded on draft day.

Plaxico Burress: NYGiants, ADP Early 4th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium/High

He didn’t finish strong but neither did Eli manning. I like Burress and the upside. He can muscle guys especially in and around the end zone. As manning gets better so will Burress and his stats. He had 1,200 yds and 7 TD last season yet he seems like an afterthought for a lot of drafters. Don’t fall asleep on a guy entering his prime as a WR. 1,200+ yds seems achievable and his TD could likely see an up tick.

Reggie Wayne: Indy, ADP Early to Middle 3rd

Risk-medium, Reward-X-High

OK, so he was a bit of a disappointment last season. But he has had greatness before and a return to his 2004 form could happen with the departure of Edge and a running game that may take awhile to get on track. We do know the Colts like to throw and can if they wanted to throw almost every down and win most football games. Pairing Wayne with a Holt or Chad Johnson should create a duo where both have top10 and perhaps even top5 potential if things land right.

And my last guy I am putting in this category has a lot of risk but I think he comes with a fair price. I have to think of Antonio Gates from the Chargers. He did not really learn the position of TE till late in his teens and early 20s…and when I see Matt Jones, I see a guy at 6’6” with tremendous size, 4.3 speed, the guy is a freak in a good way. He showed some flashes as a rookie but he is learning the position. He has a coach that wants him to take off…he is in a situation where the veteran WR has retired and the door is wide open. There is no doubt he has the most talent on the team, it simply remains to be seen if he can carry that over to the field. With a late 7th/early 8th round price(that’s going up as we speak), he certainly should be a guy you have on your radar as a WR3 for your team. I don’t think he will bust and he could very well boom for you. And of the top 25 projected you have to love his upside.

Thoughts, vibes, and criticisms welcome.

 
Of the players listed in your post, I think Driver has the best chance to significantly outperform this current ranking on site (#13 as of 8/16/06 8 PM ET). He and Favre are simpatico, there is no other WR more talented on the roster, and he's slapped down 1200+ yard seasons the last 2 years. While TDs are very hard to predict, I feel ~95.97% sure that Favre won't have a totally disastrous season passing the ball again this year, so I see a rebound up to high single digits in the TD department for Driver. That's top 10 territory easily, and possibly top 5, IMO.

 
Of the players listed in your post, I think Driver has the best chance to significantly outperform this current ranking on site (#13 as of 8/16/06 8 PM ET). He and Favre are simpatico, there is no other WR more talented on the roster, and he's slapped down 1200+ yard seasons the last 2 years. While TDs are very hard to predict, I feel ~95.97% sure that Favre won't have a totally disastrous season passing the ball again this year, so I see a rebound up to high single digits in the TD department for Driver. That's top 10 territory easily, and possibly top 5, IMO.
:goodposting: I feel that way too, he is a great gamble as a WR2, maybe he could be your WR1 if you open RB-RB-RB...something like SJAX, K.Jones, J.Lewis or something like that...solid but not spectacular.
 
Reggie Wayne will put up better numbers the Marvin Harrison this year.
Where have we heard this before??What has Harrison done to show he is slowing down? Every year FFers want to grab "the next big thing", constantly discounting proven vets.Give me Harrison over Wayne ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
 
Reggie Wayne will put up better numbers the Marvin Harrison this year.
Where have we heard this before??What has Harrison done to show he is slowing down? Every year FFers want to grab "the next big thing", constantly discounting proven vets.Give me Harrison over Wayne ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
I would take Harrison as well, but Wayne isn't a bad booby prixe to pair with Holt or something.
 
Rod Smith and Antonio Bryant will outperform their ADP in my opinion. Cheers!
A lot of people are on the AB bandwagon. After watching him here in Cleveland, though, I can tell you that he will break your heart. He drops WAY too many passes & that's why he's with yet another team. Buyer beware!
 
Of the players listed in your post, I think Driver has the best chance to significantly outperform this current ranking on site (#13 as of 8/16/06 8 PM ET). He and Favre are simpatico, there is no other WR more talented on the roster, and he's slapped down 1200+ yard seasons the last 2 years. While TDs are very hard to predict, I feel ~95.97% sure that Favre won't have a totally disastrous season passing the ball again this year, so I see a rebound up to high single digits in the TD department for Driver. That's top 10 territory easily, and possibly top 5, IMO.
Completely agree on all fronts here. Especially in PPR leagues, I cant make a successful arguement for taking any other WR listed here before Driver. The guy is as sure as they come and is looking at a more favorable fantasy situation this year IMO. Some things I noticed from MOP's post. --Roy Williams: Love the call on this though I find it hard to see his risk as high. Sure injuries are a concern but I see at least a few more recievers on this list that I find less healthy currently. Martz also is capable of significantly revamping the offense this season. (see 98-99 Rams). Another point to note is that they will most probably begin the season with a semblance of stability at the #2 slot this season and problem elements will be dropped in the depth chart or simply off the team. Not to mention the o-line and KJ looking good and you can see the field will be spread. Also Kitna represents an upgrade at QB by all means (see my post in the player spotlight about him) and has a great tendancy to lock on to his #1 target. Even a scrub like Peter Warrick (sophmore campaign) caught 70 balls- with three games of 7+ receptions. Even in the 99 (seattle) season, derrick mayes enjoyed a career season before vanishing back into obscurity. The common trend? All of Kitna's #1 targets have had over 60 receptions, and at least 5 TD's. Seems medium risk to me with a greater upside than most think.
 
Reggie Wayne will put up better numbers the Marvin Harrison this year.
Where have we heard this before??What has Harrison done to show he is slowing down? Every year FFers want to grab "the next big thing", constantly discounting proven vets.Give me Harrison over Wayne ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
I would take Harrison as well, but Wayne isn't a bad booby prixe to pair with Holt or something.
Agreed. I'm not down on Wayne at all. Actually quite the opposite. But I see no way (barring injury) he surpasses Harrison this year.
 
Reggie Wayne will put up better numbers the Marvin Harrison this year.
Where have we heard this before??What has Harrison done to show he is slowing down?

Every year FFers want to grab "the next big thing", constantly discounting proven vets.

Give me Harrison over Wayne ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
umm Wayne had more catches then marvin did last yr(be it only one more but still more)...that is an indicator and has to be worth somethingMarvin: 82/1146/12

Wayne: 83/1055/5

Wayne needs to step it up in the TD dept but this scenario eerily reminds me of holt/bruce a few yrs ago. People would say yeah holt is good/great whatever but he doesnt get TDs.

 
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Javon Walker: Denver, ADP Late 4th/Early 5th

Risk-Medium/High, Reward Medium/High

If Walker is totally recovered then this pick gets a little better. I am also leery of how many actual targets he will snare. Rod Smith is really the No.1 on Denver even if we all think he is older and lost a step. I think it is lofty to expect Walker to put up numbers close to what he did pre-injury in GB. No WR has had 1,200yds and 12-13 TD in Denver with Shanny as a HC. They run the ball a lot and their play action is set up beautifully because of it. I hate to project but 70 catches for 950 yds and 6-7 TD seems like a pretty good year for him after the injury and in Denver behind Rod Smith. Denver has a pretty good defense and no reason to fire the ball all over the place. When they get a lead they are going to run the ball and shorten the games. They hosted the NFC Championship last year…that is being moved to Miami this season but they still would like to try and retain what they did last year.

Thoughts, vibes, and criticisms welcome.
Walker = value here. Jerseyh8r captured my tohughts on Walker in the spotlight thread. The only thing to add is that he has been getting good reviews so far in bronco camp. At the 18 ranked WR (per antsports) and being drafted @ end of 4th round, those who pick Walker will be pleasantly suprised with WR1 production form a WR2 reciever.
 
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Good stuff MoP! I like the calls on all of them. I know you placed Boldin in the tier above, but would like to hear how you rank his risk/reward vs. the likes of Chambers..

 
Good stuff MoP! I like the calls on all of them. I know you placed Boldin in the tier above, but would like to hear how you rank his risk/reward vs. the likes of Chambers..
I don't like Boldin this year and I think a lot of owners will disagree with how I feel. On some levels I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it. People are drafting Fitz and Boldin almost back to back in the 2nd round...something has to give and I think Boldin will take a lesser seat to Fitz this season. Fitz cathes a lot of balls inside the 20 for the redzone TDs...he is entering his 3rd season and has the "it" factor that a workhorse like Boldin does not.Again Boldin owners really get touchy about this so I just leave it alone...but Boldin is almost of my list of draftable players as he goes to high for me.
 
moleculo said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Javon Walker: Denver, ADP Late 4th/Early 5th

Risk-Medium/High, Reward Medium/High

If Walker is totally recovered then this pick gets a little better. I am also leery of how many actual targets he will snare. Rod Smith is really the No.1 on Denver even if we all think he is older and lost a step. I think it is lofty to expect Walker to put up numbers close to what he did pre-injury in GB. No WR has had 1,200yds and 12-13 TD in Denver with Shanny as a HC. They run the ball a lot and their play action is set up beautifully because of it. I hate to project but 70 catches for 950 yds and 6-7 TD seems like a pretty good year for him after the injury and in Denver behind Rod Smith. Denver has a pretty good defense and no reason to fire the ball all over the place. When they get a lead they are going to run the ball and shorten the games. They hosted the NFC Championship last year…that is being moved to Miami this season but they still would like to try and retain what they did last year.

Thoughts, vibes, and criticisms welcome.
Walker = value here. Jerseyh8r captured my tohughts on Walker in the spotlight thread. The only thing to add is that he has been getting good reviews so far in bronco camp. At the 18 ranked WR (per antsports) and being drafted @ end of 4th round, those who pick Walker will be pleasantly suprised with WR1 production form a WR2 reciever.
Moleculo your posts are always well thought out, I want to agree with you but I got burnt with Walker last season and I think it may take him a little while to settle into the Broncos offense. One knock against him is he isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.
 
Nice post MoP.

Another vote for Driver, though I'm a bit worried that he'll be double-teamed a lot unless Jennings or Ferguson play surprisingly well. Driver is solid, but he's not special. He won't make a living beating double coverage.

 
hydroxybear said:
FatRader said:
Reggie Wayne will put up better numbers the Marvin Harrison this year.
Where have we heard this before??What has Harrison done to show he is slowing down? Every year FFers want to grab "the next big thing", constantly discounting proven vets.Give me Harrison over Wayne ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
Of course you would take Harrison before him, but you'd do so a round earlier. Fitz/Boldin is a bit more "apples to apples". I like the risk/reward on Wayne.
 
Great post, nice calls.

I took Fitz 2.8, Driver 5.3, and M. Jones 7.3 this year. (10 teams)

My take is you go for one elite stud, one steady eddie and one upside guy in a start 3 WR league.

I really like Chambers this year, but not as my WR1. As a WR2 tho, paired with a WR3 like R. Smith, I think he could be huge.

Not high on Roy Dub. You can't count on him to stay healthy and I really don't like Detroit's Oline. Bad Oline will be the downfall of the Martz offense.

I love Ward, Wayne or even Mason as subsitutes to Driver in my steady eddie WR2 theory above. Ward and Wayne went too high tho.

Don't like Walker this year based on ADP, the new team and the injury. I'll wait a year to see how he looks.

I don't trust Galloway, Moss, Burriss or D Jax for various reasons.

Housh is a solid WR, but C. Henry looks like a future super stud. I wouldn't want a guy in his way.

I'm very high on Matt Jones, especially at his ADP. Last year I took Fitz at about the same spot for the same upside WR3 role. I can only hope for somewhat similar results. Like you say tho, he's a physical freak, a former QB and is stepping into the Jimmy Smith role. Me likey long time.

 
moleculo said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Javon Walker: Denver, ADP Late 4th/Early 5th

Risk-Medium/High, Reward Medium/High

If Walker is totally recovered then this pick gets a little better. I am also leery of how many actual targets he will snare. Rod Smith is really the No.1 on Denver even if we all think he is older and lost a step. I think it is lofty to expect Walker to put up numbers close to what he did pre-injury in GB. No WR has had 1,200yds and 12-13 TD in Denver with Shanny as a HC. They run the ball a lot and their play action is set up beautifully because of it. I hate to project but 70 catches for 950 yds and 6-7 TD seems like a pretty good year for him after the injury and in Denver behind Rod Smith. Denver has a pretty good defense and no reason to fire the ball all over the place. When they get a lead they are going to run the ball and shorten the games. They hosted the NFC Championship last year…that is being moved to Miami this season but they still would like to try and retain what they did last year.

Thoughts, vibes, and criticisms welcome.
Walker = value here. Jerseyh8r captured my tohughts on Walker in the spotlight thread. The only thing to add is that he has been getting good reviews so far in bronco camp. At the 18 ranked WR (per antsports) and being drafted @ end of 4th round, those who pick Walker will be pleasantly suprised with WR1 production form a WR2 reciever.
Moleculo your posts are always well thought out, I want to agree with you but I got burnt with Walker last season and I think it may take him a little while to settle into the Broncos offense. One knock against him is he isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.
I wouldn't call an injury in the first game being burnt - I'd call that unlucky. Getting burnt is having a top pick tank - last year I was burnt by Kevin Jones, for example.As far as Javon picking up the offense - there is no reason he shouldn't pick it up. GB (last year anyways) and Denver both ran a variant of the west coast offense - shouldn't be too much of a transition. Claiming that he isn't the sharpest too in the shed, well, I think this is less than subjective.

 
Nice post MoP.

Another vote for Driver, though I'm a bit worried that he'll be double-teamed a lot unless Jennings or Ferguson play surprisingly well. Driver is solid, but he's not special. He won't make a living beating double coverage.
He did last year :shrug:
 
MOP, any thoughts on two receivers with similar ADPs, Joe Horn and Lee Evans? I'm not real high on either but I'd like to get your viewpoint on them.

 
Great post as always MOP. I can't argue with any of your statements and/or rankings, though I do believe Ward belongs in the bottom tier, of major upside guys. With Bettis gone there will be more TD's to go around, and Rothlisberger has an amazing fantasy points per attempt ratio. He's only averaged 22 attempts per game thus far, and I don't think that number can go down. I believe Pittsburgh has to increase there passing attempts (they can't get any fewer!), there will be a higher % of passing TD's, and that Ward will be the beneficiary of both of these.

My .02 :banned:

 
Good stuff as always MOP.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on Horn, Burleson, Williamson, and Evans as guys I am looking at in several leagues to fill either the #2 or #3 roles.

I like Wayne, Burress, and Chambers in particular this year but Chambers and Burress have really been hit or miss throughout their careers so there is always a bit of uneasiness drafting those two. Wayne is going to be a safe bet in all leagues and I see him only exceeding his ADP and most projections. But even if he doesn't he's still a no brainer and a safe play.

:bye:

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Alright, so your all set on who to take as your RB1 in round 2 and you are going to go with best value be it RB/WR in the 2nd. Most people think they can put off getting WR till much later in the draft. And I think that is partly true. You can find a guy that might exceed his draft slot but by how much? When FF boils down to the raw numbers, the fact remains that only a handful of players a the different positions make a true difference and lead you to the championship. In fact even guys that have average years but manage to keep you in the hunt and then explode in weeks 14-17 will also be real difference makers.

So let’s get back on point. After the 1st 7-8WR that go from Steve Smith to A.Boldin you get about 17-18 WR that will make a push to try and be top 10 and maybe even the lucky will pick 1 that cracks the top5...but who? Let’s take a look at the 2nd tier of WR and see if we can find the best of those guys with the most upside that can help propel us and cover up for those awful RB2 we kept taking in the 2nd round.

I have separated them into 3 categories that will surely spark some debate. I find 4 of them have the most potential to crack the top10 or top5…mostly because they have either done it before or simply seem to be in a great situation. Let’s start with those I find risky and move towards the safer bets. I am listing them in order of the FBG projections in case there is any questions where I pulled these from.

Roy Williams: Detroit , ADP Early 4th

Risk-High, Reward-High

He had 88 targets last season so those targets are going to have to move up. He only caught 42 of them but did manage 7 TD. With Martz calling the plays you have to imagine his targets are going to go up. I have been impressed with his circus catches, but not as impressed with his making the “normal” catch and his presence on the field. Detroit lost a lot of games last season, not sure how many TD of his were when Detroit was trailing…what does that matter, right? Well I think most top5-10 WR are catching the ball even when their team is not trailing.

I think Roy is gifted but he also has had a hard time finishing the season. He has missed 5 complete games in his 1st 2 years and parts of others…that’s almost half a season. I just would like to see this guy actually produce 80 catches and 1100 yds before I select him over other WR that are safer picks right now.

Darrell Jackson: Seattle, ADP Late 3rd

Risk-Medium, Reward-Medium/High

Jackson didn’t so much in 2005 because of injury. I was sure this could be the Steve Smith of 2006 but he still has lingering injuries it seems. But also Jackson has cracked 80 receptions just once…and one other season he managed 70. His ceiling appears to be between 1,000-1,200 yds and 6-9 TD…good stats but probably not gonna leap into the top5 or 10…there is a ceiling and you have to ask yourself if his current injury situation is worth the risk. I would rather try for a WR that I know I can get production out of.

TJ Houshyomama: Cinci, ADP Early 5th

Risk-Medium, Reward-Medium

Housh is in an interesting spot. First off he might not have Palmer zipping him the ball and if Wright is going to be the guy for awhile or god forbid the season, all Bengal WR should be notched down. But the biggest threat to Housh might just be Chris Henry. If Henry can stop all his of field stuff, he has a real chance to push Housh for playing time. Housh saw 115 targets and Henry 50. What if those targets get a little more evenly distributed…you could see Housh take a decline from 950/7, down to maybe 750/5 and that is not what out want out of your WR2. I actually think housh is a major risk if you start him every week as your WR2…he is not nearly as good running 2nd on this team as Reggie Wayne is for Indy…we’ll get to Reggie a little later in this program.

Deion Branch: NE, ADP Late 5th/Early 6th

Risk-Medium, Reward Medium

As we speak Branch is in the middle of a bitter holdout. This pick makes sense if you already have a good WR1 and maybe even a 2 and are looking for some umph out of your WR3…the reason is if Branch holds out he obviously is not producing. Even if he starts I do not see him being too much more than 1,000 yds and 5-6 TD…he hasn’t given us a reason to think it yet. He looks great in Super Bowls though. He is short and has already had 1 injury plagued season. Holdouts can sometimes be candidates for injuries because they do not go thru the riggers of camp. Branch is good but he still should be in camp…this would be one of the last guys I would want to draft as my WR1.

Javon Walker: Denver, ADP Late 4th/Early 5th

Risk-Medium/High, Reward Medium/High

If Walker is totally recovered then this pick gets a little better. I am also leery of how many actual targets he will snare. Rod Smith is really the No.1 on Denver even if we all think he is older and lost a step. I think it is lofty to expect Walker to put up numbers close to what he did pre-injury in GB. No WR has had 1,200yds and 12-13 TD in Denver with Shanny as a HC. They run the ball a lot and their play action is set up beautifully because of it. I hate to project but 70 catches for 950 yds and 6-7 TD seems like a pretty good year for him after the injury and in Denver behind Rod Smith. Denver has a pretty good defense and no reason to fire the ball all over the place. When they get a lead they are going to run the ball and shorten the games. They hosted the NFC Championship last year…that is being moved to Miami this season but they still would like to try and retain what they did last year.

Joey Galloway: Tampa Bay, ADP Late 5th/Early 6th

Risk-Medium, Reward Medium

To think Joey will repeat last season seem short sighted. Michael Clayton was injured most of the season and while he is a little gimpy again this preseason you have to think he will see a lot more targets in 2006. I like Galloway and it was exciting to have snared him on many of my rosters last season, but this year he is highly likely to return to earth. If they are both healthy you could see Galloway in the 800-1,000 yds and 6-8TD area. Maybe that is a good return for this part in the draft but I feel simply lucky that I got him last year with a much later round pick, this year he seems a bit pricey.

Andre Johnson: Houston, ADP Late 4th/Early 5th

Risk-High, Reward-Medium

AJ has almost busted the 1,000 yd mark as a rookie and blew up for 1,100 yds in his 2nd season. Injuries set him back but he has not been a TD machine and that is something you have to do in order to crack the top10 usually. Add in Mould who will want his fair share of looks and I think AJ will still see a ceiling of around 1,000 yds and 5-6TD. He will look good doing it and we will hope he ends up eventually on another team but to me AJ shows a lot of risk.

OK, now I have shown you 6 WR in the 2nd tier that I think are kind of risky. But I think its OK to grab one of them if you already have a stud WR and if you can also grab a Steady Eddie as your WR3 with the hopes of using him as WR2 many weeks as well. IN a start 3WR league you don’t want to have Roy Williams, TJ Housh, and Joey Galloway as your top3 WR…I think you could be in some real trouble. Let’s look at some of the Steady Eddies.

Donald Driver: GB, ADP Middle/End 4th round

Risk-low, Reward-Medium/High

Driver is going to catch 80 balls and rack up 1,100+ yds as long as he is starting in GB. He is probably the safest pick of any Packer this season. His TD will most likely be between 5-8 for the season and he could be a nice dark horse to finish top10. Why go for a risky player at this point in the draft when you can take him and count on his points.

Hines Ward: Pittsburgh, ADP Middle/End 3rd round

Risk-low, Reward-Medium/High

Now here is a guy that has been top10. 1,000/4, 1,300/12, 1,150/10, 1000/4, 975/11…this guy has posted 10+ TD 3 of the last 5 seasons. He also is a lock for 1,000 yds. He had over 150+ targets in ’02 and ’03…those have dropped significantly to around 110 the past 2 years…but as Rothy improves the Steelers will throw the ball more. In fact they might have trouble running as much as they would like so look for them to take to the air with Heath Miller as a nice weapon at TE, and Ward flying all over the place on the outside. What a nice catch in the middle to end of the 3rd round…you might grab a guy that could easily crack the top10 and top15-20 almost certainly.

Santana Moss: Washington, ADP Early 4th

Risk-low, Reward-high

Guy seems to be in an even better situation this year. He likes to go long, Saunders used to utilize Kennison in that way but Moss is far better in the skills department than EK ever was. Seems like he should outpace his ADP. Hard to not see him not reach 900-1,100 yds and 6-9 TD…should be productive. I see Cooley losing catched to Lloyd, not Moss as much.

Derrick Mason: Baltimore, ADP Early/Middle 5th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium

He will not break the top10 but if he can post 1,000 yds and 6-7 TD he becomes a nice safe pick as your WR2 in the 5th round. I see little risk with Mason who will be overjoyed to have McNair throwing to him again.

Eddie Kennison: KC, ADP Middle 6th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium

He is still the WR1 for KC. 900-1100 yds and 5-8 TD have been his norm the past 3 or 4 years. Even with a downtick, he is probably a 800-950 yds and 5 TD at worst type of WR…he is not a steal anymore but he has little risk. Not the upside of other guys around here though.

Rod Smith: Denver, ADP Middle 5th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium

He will love having Walker across from him. 1,000 yds and 5-7 TD seems likely for him. Again he is a safe pick and a perfect WR2 for your team to pair with a Holt or Harrison…then take a riskier WR as your WR3 or WR4.

Again I would stress that I would not want to have just safe picks on my roster either. I don’t think Smith and Mason will make the best 1-2 punch at WR for your team. You won’t lose because of it but you won’t win either.

Alright, I think there are 4 players that have the best potential to crack the top5-10. One of them definitely will be a long shot but you have to like the upside and what he can do once he ahs the ball in his hands.

Chris Chambers: Miami, ADP Middle 3rd

Risk-low/medium, Reward-X-High

Plain and simple. After Holt, Moss, and Harrison he has the most TD over the past 3 seasons with 29. Chambers has been making plays with AJ Feeley, Jay Fiedler, and Gus Ferrotte under center…now he has a guy with a cannon on his shoulder…I like Chambers to do as well as he did last year but he might do it a bit more evenly…he also has the ability to explode…something many in the above tier will not do. Those that do not shy away from Chambers will be rewarded on draft day.

Plaxico Burress: NYGiants, ADP Early 4th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium/High

He didn’t finish strong but neither did Eli manning. I like Burress and the upside. He can muscle guys especially in and around the end zone. As manning gets better so will Burress and his stats. He had 1,200 yds and 7 TD last season yet he seems like an afterthought for a lot of drafters. Don’t fall asleep on a guy entering his prime as a WR. 1,200+ yds seems achievable and his TD could likely see an up tick.

Reggie Wayne: Indy, ADP Early to Middle 3rd

Risk-medium, Reward-X-High

OK, so he was a bit of a disappointment last season. But he has had greatness before and a return to his 2004 form could happen with the departure of Edge and a running game that may take awhile to get on track. We do know the Colts like to throw and can if they wanted to throw almost every down and win most football games. Pairing Wayne with a Holt or Chad Johnson should create a duo where both have top10 and perhaps even top5 potential if things land right.

And my last guy I am putting in this category has a lot of risk but I think he comes with a fair price. I have to think of Antonio Gates from the Chargers. He did not really learn the position of TE till late in his teens and early 20s…and when I see Matt Jones, I see a guy at 6’6” with tremendous size, 4.3 speed, the guy is a freak in a good way. He showed some flashes as a rookie but he is learning the position. He has a coach that wants him to take off…he is in a situation where the veteran WR has retired and the door is wide open. There is no doubt he has the most talent on the team, it simply remains to be seen if he can carry that over to the field. With a late 7th/early 8th round price(that’s going up as we speak), he certainly should be a guy you have on your radar as a WR3 for your team. I don’t think he will bust and he could very well boom for you. And of the top 25 projected you have to love his upside.

Thoughts, vibes, and criticisms welcome.
Wow, that really is a great post MoP! Have you ever considered doing a podcast or something similar? I would love to be able to take in some valuable information like that during my evening jazzercise routine. That way I could stay focoused AND learn something during my routine.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Javon Walker: Denver, ADP Late 4th/Early 5th

Risk-Medium/High, Reward Medium/High

If Walker is totally recovered then this pick gets a little better. I am also leery of how many actual targets he will snare. Rod Smith is really the No.1 on Denver even if we all think he is older and lost a step. I think it is lofty to expect Walker to put up numbers close to what he did pre-injury in GB. No WR has had 1,200yds and 12-13 TD in Denver with Shanny as a HC. They run the ball a lot and their play action is set up beautifully because of it. I hate to project but 70 catches for 950 yds and 6-7 TD seems like a pretty good year for him after the injury and in Denver behind Rod Smith. Denver has a pretty good defense and no reason to fire the ball all over the place. When they get a lead they are going to run the ball and shorten the games. They hosted the NFC Championship last year…that is being moved to Miami this season but they still would like to try and retain what they did last year.
I missed this before - what?!) Denver hosted AFC championship.

2) Are you suggesting Miami will host the AFC championship this year - essentially you are claiming that Miami is the best team in the AFC?

3) I'd also like to point out that Shannahan tries to fix what he considers is broken in the offseason, specifically the draft. In 2005, three CB's were selected with Denvers first 3 picks, so you know what the emphasis was going to be. In 2006, 3 WR's (including Javon), a top QB, and a TE were picked. Read between the lines - Shannahan feels that they lost to PIT because their passing game wasn't what it needed to be - look for an emphasis on throwing more this season. conclusion: Denver will look to "fire the ball all over the place."

 
Matt Jones: I like this call. Jimmy Smith had 70/1000+/6 last year and it has to go somewhere. Sure, Wilford will get some of that, but Jones is a huge red zone favorite (he has an enormous td/reception ratio) and I have to believe he's the guy to benefit most. Plus, with size, strength and speed, hopefully he can deal with the double teams.

Nice work, MOP. Thanks.

 
Mark Wimer said:
Of the players listed in your post, I think Driver has the best chance to significantly outperform this current ranking on site (#13 as of 8/16/06 8 PM ET). He and Favre are simpatico, there is no other WR more talented on the roster, and he's slapped down 1200+ yard seasons the last 2 years. While TDs are very hard to predict, I feel ~95.97% sure that Favre won't have a totally disastrous season passing the ball again this year, so I see a rebound up to high single digits in the TD department for Driver. That's top 10 territory easily, and possibly top 5, IMO.
Mark...do you think that DD will get lot of double coverage with him not having a respectable WR across the field....potentially having a negative impact on DD's numbers? I've had him on my team in the past, but outside of Javon, they've rarely had a quality WR. Curious as to your thoughts on that.
 
MOP, any thoughts on two receivers with similar ADPs, Joe Horn and Lee Evans? I'm not real high on either but I'd like to get your viewpoint on them.
Right...in the mocks I've run, when it comes to WR3, I keep coming to a group in the J. Horn, Lee Evans, K. McCardell, D. Stallworth range.....and I'm left unimpressed and in a difficult to choose situation.
 
Those old fellas Issac Bruce and Eric Moulds might make steady eddie WR2 and WR3 in leagues 12+team leagues this year. They'll be 60-70 catch guys that get 850+ yards and 5-8 TDs

And they can be had CHEAP

 
Mark Wimer said:
Of the players listed in your post, I think Driver has the best chance to significantly outperform this current ranking on site (#13 as of 8/16/06 8 PM ET). He and Favre are simpatico, there is no other WR more talented on the roster, and he's slapped down 1200+ yard seasons the last 2 years. While TDs are very hard to predict, I feel ~95.97% sure that Favre won't have a totally disastrous season passing the ball again this year, so I see a rebound up to high single digits in the TD department for Driver. That's top 10 territory easily, and possibly top 5, IMO.
Mark...do you think that DD will get lot of double coverage with him not having a respectable WR across the field....potentially having a negative impact on DD's numbers? I've had him on my team in the past, but outside of Javon, they've rarely had a quality WR. Curious as to your thoughts on that.
Hey Reagan,Driver fought through a lot of double coverage last year, when Ferguson, Green, Davenport and Franks were alll out due to injury. With the return of (at minimum) Ferguson and Franks (we're still waiting to see on Green/Davenport, although they have started practicing), Driver is in a better place in 2006 than he was 2005. If one of Green, Davenport or Gado again becomes a legit threat out of the backfield (and I have to believe that ONE of these guys will show up during 2006), then Driver will find room to roam in the secondary.I know a lot of people have guffawed at and denigrated Favre for saying this squad is a talented offensive stable, but I think he was being honest. He has nothing to prove now, but he's back under center for another tilt at the windmill. I respect Favre and his assessment (even though players are notoriously optimistic at this time of year). My .02.
 
hydroxybear said:
FatRader said:
Reggie Wayne will put up better numbers the Marvin Harrison this year.
Where have we heard this before??What has Harrison done to show he is slowing down? Every year FFers want to grab "the next big thing", constantly discounting proven vets.Give me Harrison over Wayne ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
Of course you would take Harrison before him, but you'd do so a round earlier. Fitz/Boldin is a bit more "apples to apples". I like the risk/reward on Wayne.
IIRC, SLBD was pimping Steve Smith last season too...so he knows things! :yes:
 
MOP, any thoughts on two receivers with similar ADPs, Joe Horn and Lee Evans? I'm not real high on either but I'd like to get your viewpoint on them.
JOE HORN!!!Lee Evans has an awful QB situation, I see him being very average. Horn has the starting spot, will bounce back from injuries and while I don't see him ever being top5 again...top15 for a 5th/6th rounder, great value.

 
MOP, any thoughts on two receivers with similar ADPs, Joe Horn and Lee Evans? I'm not real high on either but I'd like to get your viewpoint on them.
JOE HORN!!!Lee Evans has an awful QB situation, I see him being very average. Horn has the starting spot, will bounce back from injuries and while I don't see him ever being top5 again...top15 for a 5th/6th rounder, great value.
Horn's stock gopes up in my book with Stallworth injured and in coach's doghouse
 
Good stuff as always MOP.I'd like to hear your thoughts on Horn, Burleson, Williamson, and Evans as guys I am looking at in several leagues to fill either the #2 or #3 roles. I like Wayne, Burress, and Chambers in particular this year but Chambers and Burress have really been hit or miss throughout their careers so there is always a bit of uneasiness drafting those two. Wayne is going to be a safe bet in all leagues and I see him only exceeding his ADP and most projections. But even if he doesn't he's still a no brainer and a safe play. :bye:
Hey DD. thanks for the kind words.As I have stated Horn is really a great play in the 5th/6th round. I know FBG has him outside of the top25 but I think if Bush is lining up in the slot the wat Eric Metcalf did in Cleveland, defenses are going to really have nightmares. Deuce running the ball, Bush in the slot...Horn will see a lot of 1 on 1 or cover 2 and he can beat those match ups all day. He should settle back to 70-80 catches, 1,100 yds and 6-8 TD...that's pretty solid from a WR2/3.I think Burleson's success is predicated on DJax...if DJax is hurt and cannot play as much then Burleson becomes a better choice, otherwise I see him as a 3rd or 4th option in the passing game...Engram will catch a lot of balls underneath and on 3rd down...I could see him lining across from DJax if DJax is healthy so there is one pair of solid hands on the field at all times.DJax healthy= DJax WR1, Engram WR2, Burleson WR3DJax injured= Burleson WR1/2, Engram WR1/2Troy Williamson...like him in a best ball league, not as much in the regular H2H leagues. Johnson is old and will have a hard time delivering the ball on the fly patterns which is Troy's specialty right now.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
Javon Walker: Denver, ADP Late 4th/Early 5th

Risk-Medium/High, Reward Medium/High

If Walker is totally recovered then this pick gets a little better. I am also leery of how many actual targets he will snare. Rod Smith is really the No.1 on Denver even if we all think he is older and lost a step. I think it is lofty to expect Walker to put up numbers close to what he did pre-injury in GB. No WR has had 1,200yds and 12-13 TD in Denver with Shanny as a HC. They run the ball a lot and their play action is set up beautifully because of it. I hate to project but 70 catches for 950 yds and 6-7 TD seems like a pretty good year for him after the injury and in Denver behind Rod Smith. Denver has a pretty good defense and no reason to fire the ball all over the place. When they get a lead they are going to run the ball and shorten the games. They hosted the NFC Championship last year…that is being moved to Miami this season but they still would like to try and retain what they did last year.
I missed this before - what?!) Denver hosted AFC championship.

2) Are you suggesting Miami will host the AFC championship this year - essentially you are claiming that Miami is the best team in the AFC?

3) I'd also like to point out that Shannahan tries to fix what he considers is broken in the offseason, specifically the draft. In 2005, three CB's were selected with Denvers first 3 picks, so you know what the emphasis was going to be. In 2006, 3 WR's (including Javon), a top QB, and a TE were picked. Read between the lines - Shannahan feels that they lost to PIT because their passing game wasn't what it needed to be - look for an emphasis on throwing more this season. conclusion: Denver will look to "fire the ball all over the place."
Good cause I have Plummer in almost every league I am in. And yes Miami is hosting that AFC Championship this year, book it! :D
 
Matt Jones: I like this call. Jimmy Smith had 70/1000+/6 last year and it has to go somewhere. Sure, Wilford will get some of that, but Jones is a huge red zone favorite (he has an enormous td/reception ratio) and I have to believe he's the guy to benefit most. Plus, with size, strength and speed, hopefully he can deal with the double teams.Nice work, MOP. Thanks.
It seems a lot of people are high on him but what he did to Will Allen the other night was pretty awesome...Allen had no chance to bring this guy down...what happens when he gets in the open and its just him and the CB...he will just run them over.
 
MOP, any thoughts on two receivers with similar ADPs, Joe Horn and Lee Evans? I'm not real high on either but I'd like to get your viewpoint on them.
JOE HORN!!!Lee Evans has an awful QB situation, I see him being very average. Horn has the starting spot, will bounce back from injuries and while I don't see him ever being top5 again...top15 for a 5th/6th rounder, great value.
Horn's stock gopes up in my book with Stallworth injured and in coach's doghouse
Ed McMahon: "You are correct"
 
Mark Wimer said:
Of the players listed in your post, I think Driver has the best chance to significantly outperform this current ranking on site (#13 as of 8/16/06 8 PM ET). He and Favre are simpatico, there is no other WR more talented on the roster, and he's slapped down 1200+ yard seasons the last 2 years. While TDs are very hard to predict, I feel ~95.97% sure that Favre won't have a totally disastrous season passing the ball again this year, so I see a rebound up to high single digits in the TD department for Driver. That's top 10 territory easily, and possibly top 5, IMO.
Completely agree on all fronts here. Especially in PPR leagues, I cant make a successful arguement for taking any other WR listed here before Driver. The guy is as sure as they come and is looking at a more favorable fantasy situation this year IMO. Some things I noticed from MOP's post. --Roy Williams: Love the call on this though I find it hard to see his risk as high. Sure injuries are a concern but I see at least a few more recievers on this list that I find less healthy currently. Martz also is capable of significantly revamping the offense this season. (see 98-99 Rams). Another point to note is that they will most probably begin the season with a semblance of stability at the #2 slot this season and problem elements will be dropped in the depth chart or simply off the team. Not to mention the o-line and KJ looking good and you can see the field will be spread. Also Kitna represents an upgrade at QB by all means (see my post in the player spotlight about him) and has a great tendancy to lock on to his #1 target. Even a scrub like Peter Warrick (sophmore campaign) caught 70 balls- with three games of 7+ receptions. Even in the 99 (seattle) season, derrick mayes enjoyed a career season before vanishing back into obscurity. The common trend? All of Kitna's #1 targets have had over 60 receptions, and at least 5 TD's. Seems medium risk to me with a greater upside than most think.
Very interesting take. Nice post. :thumbup:
 
hydroxybear said:
FatRader said:
Reggie Wayne will put up better numbers the Marvin Harrison this year.
Where have we heard this before??What has Harrison done to show he is slowing down? Every year FFers want to grab "the next big thing", constantly discounting proven vets.Give me Harrison over Wayne ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
Of course you would take Harrison before him, but you'd do so a round earlier. Fitz/Boldin is a bit more "apples to apples". I like the risk/reward on Wayne.
IIRC, SLBD was pimping Steve Smith last season too...so he knows things! :yes:
Wow, I'm surprised you remembered that. :blush:
 
Alright, so your all set on who to take as your RB1 in round 2 and you are going to go with best value be it RB/WR in the 2nd. Most people think they can put off getting WR till much later in the draft. And I think that is partly true. You can find a guy that might exceed his draft slot but by how much? When FF boils down to the raw numbers, the fact remains that only a handful of players a the different positions make a true difference and lead you to the championship. In fact even guys that have average years but manage to keep you in the hunt and then explode in weeks 14-17 will also be real difference makers.

So let’s get back on point. After the 1st 7-8WR that go from Steve Smith to A.Boldin you get about 17-18 WR that will make a push to try and be top 10 and maybe even the lucky will pick 1 that cracks the top5...but who? Let’s take a look at the 2nd tier of WR and see if we can find the best of those guys with the most upside that can help propel us and cover up for those awful RB2 we kept taking in the 2nd round.

I have separated them into 3 categories that will surely spark some debate. I find 4 of them have the most potential to crack the top10 or top5…mostly because they have either done it before or simply seem to be in a great situation. Let’s start with those I find risky and move towards the safer bets. I am listing them in order of the FBG projections in case there is any questions where I pulled these from.

Roy Williams: Detroit , ADP Early 4th

Risk-High, Reward-High

He had 88 targets last season so those targets are going to have to move up. He only caught 42 of them but did manage 7 TD. With Martz calling the plays you have to imagine his targets are going to go up. I have been impressed with his circus catches, but not as impressed with his making the “normal” catch and his presence on the field. Detroit lost a lot of games last season, not sure how many TD of his were when Detroit was trailing…what does that matter, right? Well I think most top5-10 WR are catching the ball even when their team is not trailing.

I think Roy is gifted but he also has had a hard time finishing the season. He has missed 5 complete games in his 1st 2 years and parts of others…that’s almost half a season. I just would like to see this guy actually produce 80 catches and 1100 yds before I select him over other WR that are safer picks right now.

Darrell Jackson: Seattle, ADP Late 3rd

Risk-Medium, Reward-Medium/High

Jackson didn’t so much in 2005 because of injury. I was sure this could be the Steve Smith of 2006 but he still has lingering injuries it seems. But also Jackson has cracked 80 receptions just once…and one other season he managed 70. His ceiling appears to be between 1,000-1,200 yds and 6-9 TD…good stats but probably not gonna leap into the top5 or 10…there is a ceiling and you have to ask yourself if his current injury situation is worth the risk. I would rather try for a WR that I know I can get production out of.

TJ Houshyomama: Cinci, ADP Early 5th

Risk-Medium, Reward-Medium

Housh is in an interesting spot. First off he might not have Palmer zipping him the ball and if Wright is going to be the guy for awhile or god forbid the season, all Bengal WR should be notched down. But the biggest threat to Housh might just be Chris Henry. If Henry can stop all his of field stuff, he has a real chance to push Housh for playing time. Housh saw 115 targets and Henry 50. What if those targets get a little more evenly distributed…you could see Housh take a decline from 950/7, down to maybe 750/5 and that is not what out want out of your WR2. I actually think housh is a major risk if you start him every week as your WR2…he is not nearly as good running 2nd on this team as Reggie Wayne is for Indy…we’ll get to Reggie a little later in this program.

Deion Branch: NE, ADP Late 5th/Early 6th

Risk-Medium, Reward Medium

As we speak Branch is in the middle of a bitter holdout. This pick makes sense if you already have a good WR1 and maybe even a 2 and are looking for some umph out of your WR3…the reason is if Branch holds out he obviously is not producing. Even if he starts I do not see him being too much more than 1,000 yds and 5-6 TD…he hasn’t given us a reason to think it yet. He looks great in Super Bowls though. He is short and has already had 1 injury plagued season. Holdouts can sometimes be candidates for injuries because they do not go thru the riggers of camp. Branch is good but he still should be in camp…this would be one of the last guys I would want to draft as my WR1.

Javon Walker: Denver, ADP Late 4th/Early 5th

Risk-Medium/High, Reward Medium/High

If Walker is totally recovered then this pick gets a little better. I am also leery of how many actual targets he will snare. Rod Smith is really the No.1 on Denver even if we all think he is older and lost a step. I think it is lofty to expect Walker to put up numbers close to what he did pre-injury in GB. No WR has had 1,200yds and 12-13 TD in Denver with Shanny as a HC. They run the ball a lot and their play action is set up beautifully because of it. I hate to project but 70 catches for 950 yds and 6-7 TD seems like a pretty good year for him after the injury and in Denver behind Rod Smith. Denver has a pretty good defense and no reason to fire the ball all over the place. When they get a lead they are going to run the ball and shorten the games. They hosted the NFC Championship last year…that is being moved to Miami this season but they still would like to try and retain what they did last year.

Joey Galloway: Tampa Bay, ADP Late 5th/Early 6th

Risk-Medium, Reward Medium

To think Joey will repeat last season seem short sighted. Michael Clayton was injured most of the season and while he is a little gimpy again this preseason you have to think he will see a lot more targets in 2006. I like Galloway and it was exciting to have snared him on many of my rosters last season, but this year he is highly likely to return to earth. If they are both healthy you could see Galloway in the 800-1,000 yds and 6-8TD area. Maybe that is a good return for this part in the draft but I feel simply lucky that I got him last year with a much later round pick, this year he seems a bit pricey.

Andre Johnson: Houston, ADP Late 4th/Early 5th

Risk-High, Reward-Medium

AJ has almost busted the 1,000 yd mark as a rookie and blew up for 1,100 yds in his 2nd season. Injuries set him back but he has not been a TD machine and that is something you have to do in order to crack the top10 usually. Add in Mould who will want his fair share of looks and I think AJ will still see a ceiling of around 1,000 yds and 5-6TD. He will look good doing it and we will hope he ends up eventually on another team but to me AJ shows a lot of risk.

OK, now I have shown you 6 WR in the 2nd tier that I think are kind of risky. But I think its OK to grab one of them if you already have a stud WR and if you can also grab a Steady Eddie as your WR3 with the hopes of using him as WR2 many weeks as well. IN a start 3WR league you don’t want to have Roy Williams, TJ Housh, and Joey Galloway as your top3 WR…I think you could be in some real trouble. Let’s look at some of the Steady Eddies.

Donald Driver: GB, ADP Middle/End 4th round

Risk-low, Reward-Medium/High

Driver is going to catch 80 balls and rack up 1,100+ yds as long as he is starting in GB. He is probably the safest pick of any Packer this season. His TD will most likely be between 5-8 for the season and he could be a nice dark horse to finish top10. Why go for a risky player at this point in the draft when you can take him and count on his points.

Hines Ward: Pittsburgh, ADP Middle/End 3rd round

Risk-low, Reward-Medium/High

Now here is a guy that has been top10. 1,000/4, 1,300/12, 1,150/10, 1000/4, 975/11…this guy has posted 10+ TD 3 of the last 5 seasons. He also is a lock for 1,000 yds. He had over 150+ targets in ’02 and ’03…those have dropped significantly to around 110 the past 2 years…but as Rothy improves the Steelers will throw the ball more. In fact they might have trouble running as much as they would like so look for them to take to the air with Heath Miller as a nice weapon at TE, and Ward flying all over the place on the outside. What a nice catch in the middle to end of the 3rd round…you might grab a guy that could easily crack the top10 and top15-20 almost certainly.

Santana Moss: Washington, ADP Early 4th

Risk-low, Reward-high

Guy seems to be in an even better situation this year. He likes to go long, Saunders used to utilize Kennison in that way but Moss is far better in the skills department than EK ever was. Seems like he should outpace his ADP. Hard to not see him not reach 900-1,100 yds and 6-9 TD…should be productive. I see Cooley losing catched to Lloyd, not Moss as much.

Derrick Mason: Baltimore, ADP Early/Middle 5th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium

He will not break the top10 but if he can post 1,000 yds and 6-7 TD he becomes a nice safe pick as your WR2 in the 5th round. I see little risk with Mason who will be overjoyed to have McNair throwing to him again.

Eddie Kennison: KC, ADP Middle 6th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium

He is still the WR1 for KC. 900-1100 yds and 5-8 TD have been his norm the past 3 or 4 years. Even with a downtick, he is probably a 800-950 yds and 5 TD at worst type of WR…he is not a steal anymore but he has little risk. Not the upside of other guys around here though.

Rod Smith: Denver, ADP Middle 5th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium

He will love having Walker across from him. 1,000 yds and 5-7 TD seems likely for him. Again he is a safe pick and a perfect WR2 for your team to pair with a Holt or Harrison…then take a riskier WR as your WR3 or WR4.

Again I would stress that I would not want to have just safe picks on my roster either. I don’t think Smith and Mason will make the best 1-2 punch at WR for your team. You won’t lose because of it but you won’t win either.

Alright, I think there are 4 players that have the best potential to crack the top5-10. One of them definitely will be a long shot but you have to like the upside and what he can do once he ahs the ball in his hands.

Chris Chambers: Miami, ADP Middle 3rd

Risk-low/medium, Reward-X-High

Plain and simple. After Holt, Moss, and Harrison he has the most TD over the past 3 seasons with 29. Chambers has been making plays with AJ Feeley, Jay Fiedler, and Gus Ferrotte under center…now he has a guy with a cannon on his shoulder…I like Chambers to do as well as he did last year but he might do it a bit more evenly…he also has the ability to explode…something many in the above tier will not do. Those that do not shy away from Chambers will be rewarded on draft day.

Plaxico Burress: NYGiants, ADP Early 4th

Risk-low, Reward-Medium/High

He didn’t finish strong but neither did Eli manning. I like Burress and the upside. He can muscle guys especially in and around the end zone. As manning gets better so will Burress and his stats. He had 1,200 yds and 7 TD last season yet he seems like an afterthought for a lot of drafters. Don’t fall asleep on a guy entering his prime as a WR. 1,200+ yds seems achievable and his TD could likely see an up tick.

Reggie Wayne: Indy, ADP Early to Middle 3rd

Risk-medium, Reward-X-High

OK, so he was a bit of a disappointment last season. But he has had greatness before and a return to his 2004 form could happen with the departure of Edge and a running game that may take awhile to get on track. We do know the Colts like to throw and can if they wanted to throw almost every down and win most football games. Pairing Wayne with a Holt or Chad Johnson should create a duo where both have top10 and perhaps even top5 potential if things land right.

And my last guy I am putting in this category has a lot of risk but I think he comes with a fair price. I have to think of Antonio Gates from the Chargers. He did not really learn the position of TE till late in his teens and early 20s…and when I see Matt Jones, I see a guy at 6’6” with tremendous size, 4.3 speed, the guy is a freak in a good way. He showed some flashes as a rookie but he is learning the position. He has a coach that wants him to take off…he is in a situation where the veteran WR has retired and the door is wide open. There is no doubt he has the most talent on the team, it simply remains to be seen if he can carry that over to the field. With a late 7th/early 8th round price(that’s going up as we speak), he certainly should be a guy you have on your radar as a WR3 for your team. I don’t think he will bust and he could very well boom for you. And of the top 25 projected you have to love his upside.

Thoughts, vibes, and criticisms welcome.
MOP....great thread. This may have been done in whole or parts previously, but I'd be curious to see a similar thread on RBs in that say 12-25 range. Based on my projections, there is a 3rd or 4th tier that begins right after Reggie Bush (#13 on my list). From that point (the Julius Jones and D. Davis and W. McGahee's of the world) down to say 25 or so (Benson, Ahman Green, Joseph Addai) there a a lot of questions, some high risk and some high upside. It would be an interesting thread.
 

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