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The Great 2020 All Time Movie Draft- The judging is heavily biased against me. It’s a hoax! Fake news. (1 Viewer)

jwb said:
4.12 - ROCKY - Sports Movie

You don't get much better than this for a sports film. This was Sly's baby, and he was going to play Rocky no matter what. Good move, because it launched a great career. Movie had almost everything you want, and the fact that he doesn't win at the end makes it even better.  Welcome to the team Rock! 

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I remember going to Rocky on opening night up in Grand Rapids, MI.  Those were the days before all the public info and reviews, so we really didn’t know what to expect.  The energy in the crowded theater that night was awesome.  During the big fight scene at the end, everyone was on their feet cheering, and some folks were in the aisle, throwing air punches along with the fight on the screen.  Crazy good fun.

 
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5. The Bad News Bears (original version) sports movie 

I may choose to move this later as it fits into more than one category. 
 

Buttermaker: What the hell happened to you, Tanner? 
Engleberg: Tanner got into a fight.

Buttermaker: Who with? 
Engleberg: The 7th Grade. 
 

 
Doug B said:
I had thought bubble guys/gals were still getting credit for their whole careers?
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so bubble person for modern era would be someone who started lets say started in film in the 1960's but was still putting out quality work into the 1990-2000's  Just trying to get the eligibility down...

 
timschochet said:
No. You need to decide where to put them. But this isn’t that difficult. 
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I know you have to choose which category but they could go in either.  I think the confusion stems from whether or not the judges will use their entire career for evaluation or just the portion in the time frame of the category they were placed in. 

 
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5.08 On the Waterfront - 1950s movie

As some one that lived in Hoboken for a number of years, this film was made even more special to me. Some great performances and a solid story.

On the Waterfront was a critical and commercial success. It received twelve Academy Award nominations and won eight, including Best Picture, Best Actor for Brando, Best Supporting Actress for XXX, and Best Director for XXX. In 1997, it was ranked by the American Film Institute as the eighth-greatest American movie of all time; in AFI's 2007 list, it was ranked 19th. It is Bernstein's only original film score not adapted from a stage production with songs. 

In 1989, On the Waterfront was one of the first 25 films to be deemed "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant" by the Library of Congress[2] and selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry.[3][4]
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timschochet said:
My favorite Vertigo story- this is from a very disturbing biography of Hitchcock called The Dark Side of Genius. Kim Novak was rude to Hitchcock one day on the set. He decided to punish her. 
The scene where Novak suddenly jumps into the San Francisco Bay. Cold, freezing water. Hitchcock filmed it, then said he wasn’t satisfied with her jump. So she had to shower, dry off, put on the clothes and makeup and do her hair up again, and jump into the cold water again. No stunt woman. But Hitchcock still wasn’t satisfied. So he made her do it over. And over. And over. All day long, two dozen times or more. 
 

Then Hitchcock announced he had decided to use the first cut. 
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Sure, Kubrick does this and he's a ####, Hitch does it and it's a funny anecdote... 

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Yeah, On The Waterfront is great.

Not the least reason being that it supported naming names to the HUAC.
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Some people think the Crucifixion only took place on Calvary. They better wise up! Taking Joey Doyle's life to stop him from testifying is a crucifixion. And dropping a sling on Kayo Dugan because he was ready to spill his guts tomorrow, that's a crucifixion. And every time the Mob puts the pressure on a good man, tries to stop him from doing his duty as a citizen, it's a crucifixion. And anybody who sits around and lets it happen, keeps silent about something he knows that happened, shares the guilt of it just as much as the Roman soldier who pierced the flesh of our Lord to see if he was dead.

 
No, I don't really think that.

Although I think Communism was then, and is now, a threat it was too easy to "name names" without much proof and it certainly ruined lives.

Cancel culture has a lot in common with HUAC and McCarthyism and all are pretty nasty examples of human behavior.

Thought I'd get more of a rise, though. Good job everyone. 

I would like to find the source of this Jimmy Stewart quote for validity, "I don't think there's any question that the Communists are behind a great deal of unrest in the United States. In addition, I feel they are still a potential danger in show business."

 
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5.09 - All The Presidents Men - Political (Category 24)

The cast is a who's who of outstanding actors.   There are really too many to list here.   It won four academy awards and was nominated for a total of eight categories including Best Picture, Director, Supporting Actress, and Supporting Actor.

The film was nominated in multiple Oscar, Golden Globe and BAFTA categories, and, in 2010, was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".

As you all know this was the story of how Woodward & Bernstein broke the Watergate scandal.  The historical accuracy of All The President’s Men is due to the fact that the director did not mind making a slow-moving film. Many of the inaccuracies in previous films discussed here are due to the fact that the historical record does not always make for the most exciting (or speedy) viewing; therefore, key events are cut out entirely or are trimmed or combined with neighboring events to make the plot more interesting. In this film, however, none of this is done; the events follow the historical timeline, more or less, although it can sometimes be difficult to determine how long has passed between individual scenes. Another factor which worked to the film’s advantage was that it came out only four years after the events it depicts occurred; both Bernstein and Woodward commented on the initial drafts of the screenplay, for instance. Similarly, the film made extensive use of the articles they published on Watergate (and the eponymous book by the two), and was therefore able to work details from those articles (including a memorable quote by John Mitchell) directly into the film.

Overall, All the President’s Men manages to be both accurate and entertaining. There are many factors that allow it to be accurate while other films are not, but it is nonetheless to the credit of the director and writers that they chose the path of historical accuracy. The film is also important, demonstrating both the importance and the potential impact of investigative journalists in a period when they seem to be a dying breed.

There are many categories we can place this in (an may decide to move it later) but we think it falls best into the Political Category due to it's real life political impact and accuracy in telling how the story of Watergate was actually broken.  Couple that with great performances from the cast (not going to spotlight - although that's probably futile at this point) and this should be in contention for the top spot in which ever category we decide on. 

 
5.10 - Aliens - Sequel

I was upset when I saw Higgins take Alien because I thought he took Aliens. I think Aliens is better than Alien, but it's an argument of horror vs action. And for me action wins. 

The Director's Cut is definitely the better version because it shows how Ripley's daughter's death affected her.

- The picture of Ripley's daughter is actually that of Weaver's mother.

- Al Matthews, who plays a Marine sergeant in this film, was in real life the first black Marine to be promoted to the rank of sergeant in the field during service in Vietnam.

- The alien screams are Baboon shrieks altered in post.

- According to the shooting script, Vasquez and Drake spent a tough childhood together in a Hispanic slum, and were drafted into the Colonial Marines from juvenile prison.

- Whilst filming the power loader battle, the crew played a practical joke on Sigourney Weaver by strategically strapping a balloon connected to an air pipe to where her backside would be. When they pumped up the balloon, Sigourney thought that the man operating the power loader inside it was getting aroused behind her.

- 20th Century Fox Studios originally had little interest in a sequel, as conventional wisdom at the time stated that "sequels cost twice as much, but make only half as much". The original producers took the early initiative, with the support of Fox production head Alan Ladd Jr. who had greenlit the original. When Ladd left the company his successor Norman Levy had no faith in the plan. It wasn't until a management change at Fox in 1984 that the studio started to become more receptive to their ideas. Some studio executives still felt that the first draft of the screenplay was only "wall-to-wall horror and it needed more character development", but recently appointed studio head Lawrence Gordon loved it, and immediately greenlit the movie. Aliens was therefore early proof that sequels could be both artistically satisfying and commercially viable.

- In the original script, while Ripley is rescuing Newt, she encounters a cocooned Burke (Paul Reiser) in the power plant. He claims he can feel the chestburster inside him and asks for help. Ripley simply gives him a live grenade and moves on. This scene was filmed but cut it from the theatrical cut. It was not among the restored scenes in the Special Edition either, so for decades, the only proof that it existed was a single still image from a magazine. The scene was finally made available in full on the film's Blu-Ray bonus content.

- In 2007, Entertainment Weekly named Aliens as the second-best action movie of all time behind Die Hard.  Empire voted it the 'Greatest Film Sequel Of All Time'.
 

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
5.10 - Aliens - Sequel

I was upset when I saw Higgins take Alien because I thought he took Aliens. I think Aliens is better than Alien, but it's an argument of horror vs action. And for me action wins. 

The Director's Cut is definitely the better version because it shows how Ripley's daughter's death affected her.

- The picture of Ripley's daughter is actually that of Weaver's mother.

- Al Matthews, who plays a Marine sergeant in this film, was in real life the first black Marine to be promoted to the rank of sergeant in the field during service in Vietnam.

- The alien screams are Baboon shrieks altered in post.

- According to the shooting script, Vasquez and Drake spent a tough childhood together in a Hispanic slum, and were drafted into the Colonial Marines from juvenile prison.

- Whilst filming the power loader battle, the crew played a practical joke on Sigourney Weaver by strategically strapping a balloon connected to an air pipe to where her backside would be. When they pumped up the balloon, Sigourney thought that the man operating the power loader inside it was getting aroused behind her.

- 20th Century Fox Studios originally had little interest in a sequel, as conventional wisdom at the time stated that "sequels cost twice as much, but make only half as much". The original producers took the early initiative, with the support of Fox production head Alan Ladd Jr. who had greenlit the original. When Ladd left the company his successor Norman Levy had no faith in the plan. It wasn't until a management change at Fox in 1984 that the studio started to become more receptive to their ideas. Some studio executives still felt that the first draft of the screenplay was only "wall-to-wall horror and it needed more character development", but recently appointed studio head Lawrence Gordon loved it, and immediately greenlit the movie. Aliens was therefore early proof that sequels could be both artistically satisfying and commercially viable.

- In the original script, while Ripley is rescuing Newt, she encounters a cocooned Burke (Paul Reiser) in the power plant. He claims he can feel the chestburster inside him and asks for help. Ripley simply gives him a live grenade and moves on. This scene was filmed but cut it from the theatrical cut. It was not among the restored scenes in the Special Edition either, so for decades, the only proof that it existed was a single still image from a magazine. The scene was finally made available in full on the film's Blu-Ray bonus content.

- In 2007, Entertainment Weekly named Aliens as the second-best action movie of all time behind Die Hard.  Empire voted it the 'Greatest Film Sequel Of All Time'.
 
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an all time fave for me, great pick, I have to go to my break glass in case of emergency pick now, I have a good one hope it lasts a few rds...

 
The difference between a lady and a flower girl is not how she behaves, but how she is treated.

5.11 Legendary Movie Star: Audrey Hepburn

Continuing to try to be "smart" to score big points at what I consider to thinner categories. It hurts a little because I am leaving so many great movies on the board but I feel like this is a lock for major points and a big tier drop now. Her look, style, charm and voice are all instantly recognizable. Like Monroe, young girls still put her posters on their wall and the average person can still identify her easily. She's the best part of every movie she is in and even some of her most well known movies have aged poorly, but it's not because of her. If you had to pull any actress in history to make a romantic comedy, Audrey Hepburn is the choice. 

 
wasn't sure this was gonna make it back to me with some Jimmy getting quoted above.. this is an all time fave for me, as powerful now as it was then, I've seen it many times, but I'm ready for a re-watch with my daughters... 

5.12 - Mr. Smith Goes to Washington - 1939 - Political

wiki note:

Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is a 1939 American political comedy-drama film ... The film is about a newly appointed United States Senator who fights against a corrupt political system, and was written by Sidney Buchman, based on Lewis R. Foster's unpublished story "The Gentleman from Montana".[4] The film was controversial when it was first released, but successful at the box office, and it made Stewart a major star.[5] It was also loosely based on the life of Montana U.S. Senator Burton Wheeler, who underwent a similar experience when he was investigating the Warren Harding administration.[6][7]

Mr. Smith Goes to Washington was nominated for eleven Academy Awards, winning for Best Original Story.[8] Considered to be one of the greatest films of all time, the film was selected by the Library of Congress as one of the first 25 films for preservation in the United States National Film Registry in 1989, for being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".[9][10]
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Ilov80s said:
The difference between a lady and a flower girl is not how she behaves, but how she is treated.

5.11 Legendary Movie Star: Audrey Hepburn

Continuing to try to be "smart" to score big points at what I consider to thinner categories. It hurts a little because I am leaving so many great movies on the board but I feel like this is a lock for major points and a big tier drop now. Her look, style, charm and voice are all instantly recognizable. Like Monroe, young girls still put her posters on their wall and the average person can still identify her easily. She's the best part of every movie she is in and even some of her most well known movies have aged poorly, but it's not because of her. If you had to pull any actress in history to make a romantic comedy, Audrey Hepburn is the choice. 
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that's a good one!

 
Gally said:
5.09 - All The Presidents Men - Political (Category 24)
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The greatest accomplishment by the greatest screenwriter of all time, William Goldman (who i imagine will have had a hand in at least 25 of the movies drafted here). Watergate was still an open wound when Goldman adapted the book. So many were worried about possible fresh scandalizing, polemics from Pakula (a pretty political filmmaker who'd just come off a leftist conspiracy flick), political interference, etc etc. but, in the leanest, meanest creative decision ever made, Goldman decided to turn it into a procedural (when those were yet rare), almost a whodunit. To have America on the edge of their seats wondering how a story that was on their TV sets all day, watched live in classrooms, for a year would unfold is more amazing to me than Bruce the Shark, the Millenium Falcon & Arc of the Covenant combined.

 
IMO Aliens was the last of the great sequel picks, as i think most others fall in that category of being in a franchise or having source material, and not being as much of a "true" movie sequel. If I took a movie at the last turn that was going to be it.  

 
Ilov80s said:
The difference between a lady and a flower girl is not how she behaves, but how she is treated.

5.11 Legendary Movie Star: Audrey Hepburn

Continuing to try to be "smart" to score big points at what I consider to thinner categories. It hurts a little because I am leaving so many great movies on the board but I feel like this is a lock for major points and a big tier drop now. Her look, style, charm and voice are all instantly recognizable. Like Monroe, young girls still put her posters on their wall and the average person can still identify her easily. She's the best part of every movie she is in and even some of her most well known movies have aged poorly, but it's not because of her. If you had to pull any actress in history to make a romantic comedy, Audrey Hepburn is the choice. 
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as i've said before, never liked her until a drunken watch almost a decade ago of her most famous flick. during the watch, i got an idea for a sequel, which my FFApper friends know is the favorite of my many open writing files. in the process, i've had to watch this film upwards of 40 times and i am impossibly amazed to say that my enthrallment with her portrayal has not dimmed one li'l flicker, which has grown my admiration of her leaps & bounds

 
5.13 Raging Bull- GOAT sports movie

one of my all time favorites and Arguably Martin Scorsese's and Robert De Niro's finest film, Raging Bull is often painful to watch, but it's a searing, powerful work about an unsympathetic hero.

 Raging Bull has cemented its reputation as a modern classic. It was voted the best film of the 1980s in numerous critics' polls and is regularly pointed to as both Scorsese's best film and one of the finest American films ever made.

Several prominent critics, among them Roger Ebert, declared the film to be an instant classic and the consummation of Scorsese's earlier promise. Ebert proclaimed it the best film of the 1980s,[and one of the ten greatest films of all time. The film has been deemed "culturally, historically, and aesthetically significant" by the United States Library of Congress and was selected for preservation in the National Film Registry in 1990

 
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