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The Great 2020 All Time Movie Draft- The judging is heavily biased against me. It’s a hoax! Fake news. (1 Viewer)

KarmaPolice said:
Ok, that's awesome.  Mostly I just get an eye roll when I say I am doing another one of these drafts from the household.  

How old is the son?
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Son is 32.  Wife and I also have different tastes in movies/actors, so my picks are gonna be all over the place.  She has already told me her pick at 3.15, and I am sure it won't be taken.

 
timschochet said:
This doesn’t apply to me. All of my negative posts are made with full ill-intent in mind. Star Wars was a terrible pick. The Shawshank Redemption is overrated. Goonies is the worst pick yet. I hope I hurt some feelings. 
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It's your sniping me with "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" that really hurt. I thought for sure that I'd get that with my 48th pick.

 
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timschochet said:
This doesn’t apply to me. All of my negative posts are made with full ill-intent in mind. Star Wars was a terrible pick. The Shawshank Redemption is overrated. Goonies is the worst pick yet. I hope I hurt some feelings.
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ET, The Wizard of Oz, and The Goonies.

How can you say The Goonies is the worst children's movie of the 3?  I promise if you ask nothing but a bunch of kids which movie is the best, The Goonies wins hands down.  The category is Children's movie; not pretentious adult claiming to be a child movie.   :boxing:

 
TheWinz said:
ET, The Wizard of Oz, and The Goonies.

How can you say The Goonies is the worst children's movie of the 3?  I promise if you ask nothing but a bunch of kids which movie is the best, The Goonies wins hands down.  The category is Children's movie; not pretentious adult claiming to be a child movie.   :boxing:
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I'm not sure I agree with this. Except for implying that Tim is pretentious. 

 
Round 2 Martin Scorsese - Director, Modern

Most people will associate Scorsese with gangster films but he's made movies that would qualify for many categories in this draft including Comedy, Romantic Comedy, Childrens, Rock, Historical, Horror/Suspense, Sports and a few others. I can't list his films without spotlighting but he's made many great films while leaving his spin on them. 

He's received the AFI Lifetime achievement Award and he's received the second most Best Director nominations in Academy Award history and most among living directors.

 
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Dr. Octopus said:
Round 2 Martin Scorsese - Director, Legendary

Most people will associate Scorsese with gangster films but he's made movies that would qualify for many categories in this draft including Comedy, Romantic Comedy, Childrens, Rock, Historical, Horror/Suspense, Sports and a few others. I can't list his films without spotlighting but he's made many great films while leaving his spin on them. 

He's received the AFI Lifetime achievement Award and he's received the second most Best Director nominations in Academy Award history and most among living directors.
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Is most of his work pre-1980? 

 
I should like Scorsese but I don't. I haven't seen all his movies but I have seen several. Not one has had me walking away saying anything that resembled "Wow". Just not my taste. 

 
KarmaPolice said:
Is most of his work pre-1980? 
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Oh, no it's not. I forgot that's how we decided to break it up. I'll move him to modern. Honestly this legendary and modern classification is pretty stupid - it makes no sense to not call Scorsese a "legend "and it makes less sense to have an arbitrary cut off date. But rules is rules so to modern he goes.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I'm certain I am. 
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Oddly, the movie that won me over to Scorsese was Hugo.  My perception up until then was he kept to a palate of familiar issues, i.e., New York City, Italian-Americans, even The Last Temptation of Christ via his Italian/Catholic roots.  I'm not saying he didn't have examples outside of that 'comfort zone', but I didn't remember any of them. Until Hugo.  I thoroughly enjoyed everything about that movie: its looks, pacing and the fact that he got a 'disciplined' performance out of Sasha Baron Cohen showed me that he is a great director.  Thought of picking him over Spielberg no need to cover that territory again.

Scorsese is another pick I expected to go in the 1st round, so I think that's a nice value pick here. :thumbup:

 
Charlie Steiner said:
Oddly, the movie that won me over to Scorsese was Hugo.  My perception up until then was he kept to a palate of familiar issues, i.e., New York City, Italian-Americans, even The Last Temptation of Christ via his Italian/Catholic roots.  I'm not saying he didn't have examples outside of that 'comfort zone', but I didn't remember any of them. Until Hugo.  I thoroughly enjoyed everything about that movie: its looks, pacing and the fact that he got a 'disciplined' performance out of Sasha Baron Cohen showed me that he is a great director.  Thought of picking him over Spielberg no need to cover that territory again.

Scorsese is another pick I expected to go in the 1st round, so I think that's a nice value pick here. :thumbup:
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If you look at his list of films you may be surprised at the number of films that have nothing to do with NYC, Italians or crime. In fact a large percentage have no ties to any of that. Of course a lot of his "big" films do however.

and it would be tough to tell the story of Jesus without any Italians in it.  :whistle:

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
One of the greatest entertainers of the 80's labeled them as simply "Good Enough". :shrug:
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Touche!

My point still stands.  You offer a kid a choice between caviar, filet mignon, and a McDonald's cheeseburger, which one are they gonna take?  Perhaps we need a panel of kids to judge the kids movies?  If we had John Gotti judging the gangster movies, would you argue with him?

 
TheWinz said:
Touche!

My point still stands.  You offer a kid a choice between caviar, filet mignon, and a McDonald's cheeseburger, which one are they gonna take?  Perhaps we need a panel of kids to judge the kids movies?  If we had John Gotti judging the gangster movies, would you argue with him?
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I wouldn't argue with Gotti if he said the Goonies was the best gangster movie. 

 
Dr. Octopus said:
If you look at his list of films you may be surprised at the number of films that have nothing to do with NYC, Italians or crime. In fact a large percentage have no ties to any of that. Of course a lot of his "big" films do however.

and it would be tough to tell the story of Jesus without any Italians in it.  :whistle:
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It would be tougher without Jews and Romans but Marty is one of the greatest directors of all time and I hate his early work especially Taxi Driver and King of Comedy.  About the only early stuff I like of his is Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and I'd take Boxcar Birtha over Mean Streets.  

Some films I like of his that don't have gangsters, Kundun, NY Stories, and I like his remake of Cape Fear.

Goodfellas is one of the best films of all-time but he gets a bit derivative with Casino (another great film), Gangs of NY (great) the Departed (good) and then the Irishman  (disappointing).   The expectations are too high for anything he does or will do but on the whole he is without a doubt one of the greatest directors in film history.

 
What great kids movie wouldn't contain a quotes like these,

" The marijuana goes in the top drawer. The cocaine and speed go in the second drawer. And the heroin goes in the bottom drawer. Always separate the drugs."?

"Translation - never go up there. It's filled with Mr. Walsh's *sexual torture devices*."

I mean, it doesn't get more wholesome than that. 

 
Dr. Octopus said:
If you look at his list of films you may be surprised at the number of films that have nothing to do with NYC, Italians or crime. In fact a large percentage have no ties to any of that. Of course a lot of his "big" films do however.

and it would be tough to tell the story of Jesus without any Italians in it.  :whistle:
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I definitely should have refreshed my memory regarding his filmography, as I'm also a big fan of The Aviator, and appreciate his work on the Cape Fear remake among other non-NYC/organized crime works. Still, Hugo seemed to be on a different level than what I had seen from him before.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Oh, no it's not. I forgot that's how we decided to break it up. I'll move him to modern. Honestly this legendary and modern classification is pretty stupid - it makes no sense to not call Scorsese a "legend "and it makes less sense to have an arbitrary cut off date. But rules is rules so to modern he goes.
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It is, but we had to do a line somewhere I guess.  I suggested 90 for that reason.  if you have been doing movies for 40-50 years, you probably should be in the legendary spot, but less competition for Kubrick, so...

 
TheWinz said:
Don't listen to him - he thinks kids prefer yellow brick roads and homesick aliens over pirate ships.
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I doubt many kids today know what the Goonies are. Everyone knows and has seen the Wizard of Oz. It’s survived multiple generations. The Goonies will die out with the millennials. 

 
Bracie Smathers said:
It would be tougher without Jews and Romans but Marty is one of the greatest directors of all time and I hate his early work especially Taxi Driver and King of Comedy.  About the only early stuff I like of his is Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and I'd take Boxcar Birtha over Mean Streets.  

Some films I like of his that don't have gangsters, Kundun, NY Stories, and I like his remake of Cape Fear.

Goodfellas is one of the best films of all-time but he gets a bit derivative with Casino (another great film), Gangs of NY (great) the Departed (good) and then the Irishman  (disappointing).   The expectations are too high for anything he does or will do but on the whole he is without a doubt one of the greatest directors in film history.
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I have about the opposite take as this.  I love the pre-90s output, but don't click with a lot past that - including Goodfellas.  

 
Ilov80s said:
I doubt many kids today know what the Goonies are. Everyone knows and has seen the Wizard of Oz. It’s survived multiple generations. The Goonies will die out with the millennials. 
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Neither of my kids have seen Wizard of Oz.   To be fair, my son didn't like Goonies when I showed that to him either.  

 
Andy Dufresne said:
What great kids movie wouldn't contain a quotes like these,

" The marijuana goes in the top drawer. The cocaine and speed go in the second drawer. And the heroin goes in the bottom drawer. Always separate the drugs."?

"Translation - never go up there. It's filled with Mr. Walsh's *sexual torture devices*."

I mean, it doesn't get more wholesome than that. 
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Perhaps we need to define age when we say kid.  Are we talking purple dinosaurs or buried treasure here?

 
Andy Dufresne said:
What great kids movie wouldn't contain a quotes like these,

" The marijuana goes in the top drawer. The cocaine and speed go in the second drawer. And the heroin goes in the bottom drawer. Always separate the drugs."?

"Translation - never go up there. It's filled with Mr. Walsh's *sexual torture devices*."

I mean, it doesn't get more wholesome than that. 
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"penis breath"?

E.t. and Elliot getting hammered?

One of the kids at the table trying to touch the mom's ###?

:popcorn:

 
KarmaPolice said:
Neither of my kids have seen Wizard of Oz.   To be fair, my son didn't like Goonies when I showed that to him either.  
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I assume you and your wife aren’t fans? My nieces and nephew (10 and 11) loved it when they were younger and their whole family did the Wizard of Oz for Halloween a couple years ago. Your son is likely too old for it now.

 
Ilov80s said:
I doubt many kids today know what the Goonies are. Everyone knows and has seen the Wizard of Oz. It’s survived multiple generations. The Goonies will die out with the millennials. 
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My kids (22,21 and 18) love the Goonies and will keep it alive, along with fixing all the other things millenials are going to screw up in the next few years.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I"m not the one claiming E.T. is a "kid's" movie.

Goonies is a pre-teen movie AT BEST. 
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I guess we will let the judges determine how old children are.  I wish Tim would hurry up and make his pick.  We need to start bashing someone else's choice.

 
Ilov80s said:
I doubt many kids today know what the Goonies are. Everyone knows and has seen the Wizard of Oz. It’s survived multiple generations. The Goonies will die out with the millennials. 
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my 16 year old does not want to watch wizard of oz, does not like the witch and monkey scenes.. it's one of my favorite movies, whaddaygonnado?. :shrug:

 
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