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The Haynesworth post game speech (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

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Just heard it on ESPN...man does he want out of Washington. Really going after the coach and the organization. Said it wasn't headaches that kept him out but the team is trying to make him look bad for not participating in the off season conditioning. He went on to say he would not participate in it next year either. This is going to create some locker room cohesiveness.

Haynesworth was playing with the scrubs in the 4th quarter...did register a sack. Imagine what that QB was feeling looking at Haynesworth across from him in the 4th.

 
I think he ends up suspended in similar fashion to how TO was when he was with the Eagles.

He just comes off as a total selfish arrogant #######. No way around it really.

 
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I feel like Shanny went too far though. Haynesworth says there were medical reasons he missed practice this week. But Shanny should not be sending a $100 million DT into the game with the 3rd unit in the 4th quarter.

Shanny saying that Haynesworth has to earn his way into the line up...enough is enough. Obviously this relationship isn't going to work so just trade him or cut him. Unfortunately I also agree with the above poster that Haynesworth is going to get suspended now and probably a 4 gamer to start with, 2 at a minimum. Albert seems to want to push the issues.

Snyder must be having a lot of fun watching this.

 
I think he's pushing to get out again. I posted an article about it and the link earlier this evening in the Redskins team thread.

 
Since it hasn't been posted yet, here's the full text of what he said: Link

Letting things go this far is Dan Snyder's fault. This is the last remaining part of the "run the team from the front office" method used by Snyder and Cerrato over the years. Shanahan won't give in, Haynesworth won't give in, and it should have been resolved months ago. But it's not, because the Redskins have some sort of lingering fantasy of recovering the $21 million they were required by contract to pay Haynesworth last April. So the situation lingers, hoping that Haynesworth will finally do something to give them a legit claim to get part of the money back. And he's too smart to do that. Take away the "try to get back some money" issue and he would have been traded awhile ago.

 
I'm not defending the Washington front office's actions or Shanny's coaching call at all, but it's incredibly stupid for Haynesworth to tell a reporter the following after failing two team physicals earlier this summer:

Next year I'm not coming either. I'll be with my trainer again and I'll get back in the same shape I'm in and feel good about myself.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
I feel like Shanny went too far though. Haynesworth says there were medical reasons he missed practice this week. But Shanny should not be sending a $100 million DT into the game with the 3rd unit in the 4th quarter.Shanny saying that Haynesworth has to earn his way into the line up...enough is enough. Obviously this relationship isn't going to work so just trade him or cut him. Unfortunately I also agree with the above poster that Haynesworth is going to get suspended now and probably a 4 gamer to start with, 2 at a minimum. Albert seems to want to push the issues. Snyder must be having a lot of fun watching this.
Haynesworth hurt his knee and continues to be nicked up because he is not in shape.This is on Haynesworth, Snyder, and Cerrato - not Shannahan.
 
This is on Haynesworth, Snyder, and Cerrato - not Shannahan.
I don't agree. I think between Shanahan and Bruce Allen (the new GM) who have cut, traded, and signed players at will since taking over, they certainly would have traded Haynesworth if there was no "recover some money" issue involved. I don't think Shanahan or Allen would accept any direct orders to hang on to Haynesworth until he screwed up enough. So I think both of them are part of the problem as well.This should have been done with months ago. It's a cluster #### with no clear resolution.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
I feel like Shanny went too far though. Haynesworth says there were medical reasons he missed practice this week. But Shanny should not be sending a $100 million DT into the game with the 3rd unit in the 4th quarter.Shanny saying that Haynesworth has to earn his way into the line up...enough is enough. Obviously this relationship isn't going to work so just trade him or cut him. Unfortunately I also agree with the above poster that Haynesworth is going to get suspended now and probably a 4 gamer to start with, 2 at a minimum. Albert seems to want to push the issues. Snyder must be having a lot of fun watching this.
Haynesworth skiped offseason workouts, then came in and couldn't pass a conditioning test that a 47 year old ex NFL player turned morning show host passed. Then passed it when it was just him and Shanny. Seems to me Shanny did what he could to get the guy in camp and considering he couldn't pass the conditioning test, third string is exactly where you play a hundred million dollar, out of shape player. This is all Haynesworth being a cry-baby tool.
 
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This is on Haynesworth, Snyder, and Cerrato - not Shannahan.
I don't agree. I think between Shanahan and Bruce Allen (the new GM) who have cut, traded, and signed players at will since taking over, they certainly would have traded Haynesworth if there was no "recover some money" issue involved. I don't think Shanahan or Allen would accept any direct orders to hang on to Haynesworth until he screwed up enough. So I think both of them are part of the problem as well.

This should have been done with months ago. It's a cluster #### with no clear resolution.
Could not agree more with you Fat
 
Albert Haynesworth is likely suffering from rhabdomyolysis, a league source tells NFL.com's Jason La Canfora.

Rhabdomyolysis is the breakdown of muscle fibers that can end up resulting in damage to the kidney. Symptoms include dizziness, nausea, vomiting and muscle swelling and exertion/hot can exacerbate the problem. In other words, Haynesworth wasn't faking and is upset with the Redskins for not fully disclosing what has been ailing him. You can cut the tension between Haynesworth and the team with a knife right now.

Source: NFL.com

 
Can they release him for non football related injury & recoup anything? Seems like an illness like that carries a liability.

 
I don't think Shanny should get off scot free for his nefarious intentions here. To me its been clear since he hired Haslett that they didn't want Haynesworth around. Why on earth would he bring in a 3-4 DC with 100 million Haynesworth

Shanahan is a #### and Haynesworth is a petulant punk. They deserve each other.

 
This was Mike Shanahan's way of saying "It shouldn't have taken you 10 days to pass a conditioning test Mike Golic passed in one take"...

This was an opportunity for Haynesworth to show a more team centric attitude by keeping his mouth shut and instead he poured gasoline on embers. B - U - M. BUM.

 
Albert Haynesworth is likely suffering from rhabdomyolysis, a league source tells NFL.com's Jason La Canfora.Rhabdomyolysis is the breakdown of muscle fibers that can end up resulting in damage to the kidney. Symptoms include dizziness, nausea, vomiting and muscle swelling and exertion/hot can exacerbate the problem. In other words, Haynesworth wasn't faking and is upset with the Redskins for not fully disclosing what has been ailing him. You can cut the tension between Haynesworth and the team with a knife right now.Source: NFL.com
If that's the problem it is still likely Haynesworth's fault, rhabdomyolysis usually doesn't happen unless something tangibly happens to the subject. I won't say it is definitely Haynesworth's fault because there are cases where it just happens for no apparent reason, but we're talking a < 10% chance.
 
Ministry of Pain said:
I feel like Shanny went too far though. Haynesworth says there were medical reasons he missed practice this week. But Shanny should not be sending a $100 million DT into the game with the 3rd unit in the 4th quarter.

Shanny saying that Haynesworth has to earn his way into the line up...enough is enough. Obviously this relationship isn't going to work so just trade him or cut him. Unfortunately I also agree with the above poster that Haynesworth is going to get suspended now and probably a 4 gamer to start with, 2 at a minimum. Albert seems to want to push the issues.

Snyder must be having a lot of fun watching this.
Terrible idea, which is why it hasnt happened and isn't happening. Just because someone acts out a bit does NOT mean you should trade him for next to nothing, or cut him FOR nothing.a) it sends a terrible message to the team. Whine and you can get what you want.

b) an opponent can/will pick him up

c) you will get next to no $ back by doing this

Shanny knows what he's doing.

 
Albert Haynesworth is likely suffering from rhabdomyolysis, a league source tells NFL.com's Jason La Canfora.

Rhabdomyolysis is the breakdown of muscle fibers that can end up resulting in damage to the kidney. Symptoms include dizziness, nausea, vomiting and muscle swelling and exertion/hot can exacerbate the problem. In other words, Haynesworth wasn't faking and is upset with the Redskins for not fully disclosing what has been ailing him. You can cut the tension between Haynesworth and the team with a knife right now.

Source: NFL.com
Here's the Link to the story on NFL.com
Haynesworth experienced the symptoms of rhabdomyolysis, according to a source. Those symptoms included dizziness, nausea, vomiting and muscle swelling. He was treated by team doctors, with rhabdomyolysis believed to be the likely cause.

Rhabdomyolysis is the breakdown of muscle fibers resulting in the release of muscle fiber contents (myoglobin) into the bloodstream. Some of these are harmful to the kidney and can result in kidney damage. When muscle is damaged, a protein pigment called myoglobin is released into the bloodstream and filtered out of the body by the kidneys. Myoglobin breaks down into potentially harmful compounds.

Exertion and hot conditions exacerbate the problem, but in most mild cases people recover in a week or two. It is treated with aggressive hydration to dilute the urine and flush the myoglobin from the kidneys. Haynesworth's symptoms were not at the extreme end of the spectrum, and he recovered enough to take part in the preseason game with the Ravens.
 
If that's the problem it is still likely Haynesworth's fault, rhabdomyolysis usually doesn't happen unless something tangibly happens to the subject. I won't say it is definitely Haynesworth's fault because there are cases where it just happens for no apparent reason, but we're talking a < 10% chance.
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The disorder may be caused by any condition that results in damage to skeletal muscle, especially trauma.

Risk factors include the following:

* Alcoholism (with subsequent muscle tremors)

* Certain inherited or genetic syndromes

* Crush Injuries

* Heat intolerance

* Heatstroke

* Ischemia or necrosis of the muscles (as may occur with arterial occlusion, deep venous thrombosis, or other conditions)

* Low phosphate levels

* Seizures

* Severe exertion such as marathon running or calisthenics

* Shaking chills

* Trauma

* Use or overdose of drugs, especially cocaine, amphetamines, statins, heroin, or PCP
link
 
If that's the problem it is still likely Haynesworth's fault, rhabdomyolysis usually doesn't happen unless something tangibly happens to the subject. I won't say it is definitely Haynesworth's fault because there are cases where it just happens for no apparent reason, but we're talking a < 10% chance.
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The disorder may be caused by any condition that results in damage to skeletal muscle, especially trauma.

Risk factors include the following:

* Alcoholism (with subsequent muscle tremors)

* Certain inherited or genetic syndromes

* Crush Injuries

* Heat intolerance

* Heatstroke

* Ischemia or necrosis of the muscles (as may occur with arterial occlusion, deep venous thrombosis, or other conditions)

* Low phosphate levels

* Seizures

* Severe exertion such as marathon running or calisthenics

* Shaking chills

* Trauma

* Use or overdose of drugs, especially cocaine, amphetamines, statins, heroin, or PCP
link
I know the possible causes, betting money says it's something Haynesworth did (or didn't do) that caused it but it's possible it was out of his control so I'm not throwing him under the bus for it...yet.
 
Shanahan should let Haynesworth play every snap in the last preseason game with all the other scrubs. Then say he was just making sure Albert could handle a full load of snaps and that he was in shape.

 
Here's the problem the Redskins front office has led themselves into: We're 3 weeks from the regular season and they don't know who their starting defensive line will be after the large number of personnel moves they made in the offseason. And the reason they don't know is because they don't know what to do with Haynesworth yet.

Haynesworth is a jerk, there's no way around it. But jerks can be traded. He could have been traded in the offseason. They could have waited until he was 2 weeks into camp, was practicing regularly and saying good things about his defensive coach the the defensive scheme, when his value would be as high as it would get, and traded him. But they didn't, and the nose tackles on the team are crummy. Kemoeatu is getting pushed around despite his size. Howard Green has not been good at all. Haynesworth would be better at NT than either of those guys and the front office knows it. They need him on the field or the defense will take a noticeable step backwards (noticeable on the field physically and noted in game scores), but they still appear to be out to belittle or embarrass the guy. When you've constructed your team to need one guy, you don't do that. It would be similar to the Vikings taking Favre back, and then trying to belittle or embarrass him. It would make no sense.

The whole shift to a 3-4 defense has seemed wrongheaded by the Redskins, and they've built the whole scheme upon many players learning new positions. They were adamant that Haynesworth would play nose tackle, even though he'd be a far better end, and he's there and not complaining any more about playing nose tackle. They had what they wanted from him, and it makes no sense to antagonize him. Unless they're still involved in "let's get him to screw up so we can get some money back".

It's the only part of this offseason that I think they've mismanaged. And man, have they ever mismanaged it.

 
I don't think Shanny should get off scot free for his nefarious intentions here. To me its been clear since he hired Haslett that they didn't want Haynesworth around. Why on earth would he bring in a 3-4 DC with 100 million Haynesworth

Shanahan is a #### and Haynesworth is a petulant punk. They deserve each other.
I'm very afraid this guy might be right.Come on. Stopping on a Clownboy is a victimless crime.
 
Sebowski posted this in the Redskins thread:

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/08/22/mike-sh...worths-excuses/

8/22/2010 5:16 PM ET By Thomas George

ASHBURN, Va. -- Albert Haynesworth had his say on Saturday night after the Washington Redskins 23-3 preseason loss to the Baltimore Ravens, informing all that the team was holding it against him that he did not participate in "their offseason program" and that the Redskins were underplaying his injuries in describing them only as headaches.

On Sunday afternoon, Redskins coach Mike Shanahan had his say.

"One thing for sure that is clear to me is that Albert has gotten away in the past with playing without practicing,'' Shanahan said. "That will not happen under this regime. If he's going to play, he's going to practice, and that is the same with every player here. The days of him playing without practicing are over. And that, to me, says it all.''

And as far as the condition that Haynesworth is reported to possibly have -- rhabdomyolysis -- that concerns muscle fiber damage? Shanahan said: "Not aware of that.''

Rhabdomyolysis? This Haynesworth/Redskins twirl is one lollapalooza.

Haynesworth skipped most of the team's offseason drills and said he had worked, instead, with his own trainer. But he had difficulty passing the team's conditioning test once he reported to training camp and out of 18 practices, he has made five.

The Redskins will actively rotate their defensive linemen this season, so they are looking for Haynesworth to play 55 to 60 percent of all snaps. He was in for 19 plays against the Ravens, all in the third quarter, and after those plays was so winded that he had to be pulled.

Part of his spill after the game likely had to do with the fact that he did not play until the third quarter, with reserves.

Sources within the team said that Haynesworth complained of dizziness and headaches last week and was asked if he was dehydrated. He said no, but tests revealed he actually was dehydrated. When he was told he would not play in the Ravens preseason game without practice, the headaches eventually "disappeared,'' a Redskins coach said.

Shanahan said that he will continue to work to get the best from Haynesworth.

"We know what type of talent he is,'' Shanahan said. "We will keep looking for that.''

Memo to Haynesworth: The Redskins next practice is at 12:50 p.m. on Monday.
 
Here's the problem the Redskins front office has led themselves into: We're 3 weeks from the regular season and they don't know who their starting defensive line will be after the large number of personnel moves they made in the offseason. And the reason they don't know is because they don't know what to do with Haynesworth yet.

Haynesworth is a jerk, there's no way around it. But jerks can be traded. He could have been traded in the offseason. They could have waited until he was 2 weeks into camp, was practicing regularly and saying good things about his defensive coach the the defensive scheme, when his value would be as high as it would get, and traded him. But they didn't, and the nose tackles on the team are crummy. Kemoeatu is getting pushed around despite his size. Howard Green has not been good at all. Haynesworth would be better at NT than either of those guys and the front office knows it. They need him on the field or the defense will take a noticeable step backwards (noticeable on the field physically and noted in game scores), but they still appear to be out to belittle or embarrass the guy. When you've constructed your team to need one guy, you don't do that. It would be similar to the Vikings taking Favre back, and then trying to belittle or embarrass him. It would make no sense.

The whole shift to a 3-4 defense has seemed wrongheaded by the Redskins, and they've built the whole scheme upon many players learning new positions. They were adamant that Haynesworth would play nose tackle, even though he'd be a far better end, and he's there and not complaining any more about playing nose tackle. They had what they wanted from him, and it makes no sense to antagonize him. Unless they're still involved in "let's get him to screw up so we can get some money back".

It's the only part of this offseason that I think they've mismanaged. And man, have they ever mismanaged it.
Agree with everything again Fat, and especially the bolded part. They simply are antagonizing him by sending him in with the scrubs in the 4th...I wouldn't want ot be SHanny and pull this guy into my office alone...in fact I bet the two will not talking one on one, probably be a large group of folks around when these two duke it out on Monday. Honestly the best thing Shanny could do is buy him dinner and try to work with him until they can trade him. SOmething like "We don't need to like each other but in order to get you out of here we need to try and pretend we can work together." Haynesworth can be pretty destructive now because he has medical issues and the players union will have his back now.

 
Sebowski posted this in the Redskins thread:

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/08/22/mike-sh...worths-excuses/

8/22/2010 5:16 PM ET By Thomas George

And as far as the condition that Haynesworth is reported to possibly have -- rhabdomyolysis -- that concerns muscle fiber damage? Shanahan said: "Not aware of that.''
To be fair, it's really not too surprising that the head coach is minimizing Haynesworth's physical problem now when he did so all last week as well.
 
They had what they wanted from him, ...
:no: All they've ever wanted are players that want to be part of the team and Haynesworth hasn't come close to giving that to them.
Experts say that Haynesworth's ability to play in Saturday's game likely means he's recovered from the condition. They also warn, though, that the fact that Haynesworth was suffering from rhabdomyolsis might also indicate that he wasn't in proper shape to practice in the summer heat.
Link
 
Sebowski posted this in the Redskins thread:

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/08/22/mike-sh...worths-excuses/

8/22/2010 5:16 PM ET By Thomas George

And as far as the condition that Haynesworth is reported to possibly have -- rhabdomyolysis -- that concerns muscle fiber damage? Shanahan said: "Not aware of that.''
To be fair, it's really not too surprising that the head coach is minimizing Haynesworth's physical problem now when he did so all last week as well.
How specific does Shanahan usually get when discussing player injuries? Many coaches avoid discussing players' physical problems as much as possible. I'm not familiar with Shanahan's MO here.
One defensive veteran aware of Haynesworth's condition said he understood why Haynesworth was upset, but also sided with Shanahan in saying that Shanahan would never reveal details about any player's medical condition to the media.
 
If anyone has a link to some editorial for the DC area on this I would love to read it. You need a password or whatever for the Washington Post. If anyone could just paste some of the local beat writer reactions I would enjoy reading it.

Thanks

 
team sources say the defensive lineman was sidelined last week with a mild case of rhabdomyolysis, a condition marked by the breakdown of skeletal muscle and the release of myoglobin in the bloodstream.

Haynesworth accused Shanahan of mischaracterizing his ailment as a mere headache, and three sources said Sunday that the team believes Haynesworth's symptoms were brought about by rhabdomyolysis, which caused Haynesworth to miss nearly three full days of practice last week.
Haynesworth's symptoms, which included swelling of the hands and feet, nausea, headaches and vomiting, were not at the extreme end of the spectrum, and he recovered in time to take part in Saturday's preseason game with the Ravens
According to the National Center for Health, there are approximately 26,000 reported cases of rhabdomyolysis a year, but it's not clear how many athletes suffer from the condition. Another Redskins player is believed to have suffered from it last season, according to one team source
Rick Maese and Jason Reid, Washington Post beat reporters covering the Redskins
 
If anyone has a link to some editorial for the DC area on this I would love to read it. You need a password or whatever for the Washington Post. If anyone could just paste some of the local beat writer reactions I would enjoy reading it.

Thanks
The WaPo beat writers have been fairly neutral, at least so far with this latest incident. Sally Jenkins is a WaPo sports columnist, though, and she's been extremely critical of Haynesworth this whole off season. She tends to go over the top with her one-liners and scathing remarks towards the people she is critical of, but part of what she wrote today I can get behind.
Haynesworth has flunked every test of fitness and dedication that Shanahan has issued so far - and the tests weren't that hard. He was merely asked to do the following: get in real shape, run some shuttle sprints, practice consistently, and divert some of his colossal commitment to himself toward a group effort. He couldn't do any of it.
John Keim, the beat reporter for the Washington Examiner, wrote this yesterday:
There’s no way this can end well with Albert Haynesworth. He’s already ticked off and we’re not even into the regular season yet. During the game I wondered what he thought about playing in the third quarter of a game and, sure enough, he was upset about that. This smells like another message being delivered by the coaches. If he can play, why not play him in the nickel with the starters? But here’s the thing about Haynesworth and him being upset about what Mike Shanahan said about his injuries: if you talked during the week, you could have let everyone know what was wrong. When you let others talk for you, this is what happens.
This was posted above, but I believe it bears repeating; Shanahan's response to Haynesworth's postgame remarks:
"One thing for sure that is clear to me is that Albert has gotten away in the past with playing without practicing,'' Shanahan said. "That will not happen under this regime. If he's going to play, he's going to practice, and that is the same with every player here. The days of him playing without practicing are over. And that, to me, says it all.''
 
Shanahan should let Haynesworth play every snap in the last preseason game with all the other scrubs. Then say he was just making sure Albert could handle a full load of snaps and that he was in shape.
Wouldn't be surprised if it got that point at this rate.Washington needs to handle this like Philly did with TO. Keep making Haynesworth do all the drills in practice, and also put him in whenever games they want in preseason. Basically, make him follow all the team rules. Let him refuse and then suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team. If they lose the grievance so be it, but they are already on the hook for the money for a player that doesn't want to give a 100% effort, and he's not getting along with players in the locker room. Get him out of there, move on, and take a chance at getting some money back. The way he keeps running his mouth about stuff he's likely to say something here soon that the team can use, along with other conduct, to suspend him. That is where this is all headed.
 
fatness said:
Here's the problem the Redskins front office has led themselves into: We're 3 weeks from the regular season and they don't know who their starting defensive line will be after the large number of personnel moves they made in the offseason. And the reason they don't know is because they don't know what to do with Haynesworth yet.Haynesworth is a jerk, there's no way around it. But jerks can be traded. He could have been traded in the offseason. They could have waited until he was 2 weeks into camp, was practicing regularly and saying good things about his defensive coach the the defensive scheme, when his value would be as high as it would get, and traded him. But they didn't, and the nose tackles on the team are crummy. Kemoeatu is getting pushed around despite his size. Howard Green has not been good at all. Haynesworth would be better at NT than either of those guys and the front office knows it. They need him on the field or the defense will take a noticeable step backwards (noticeable on the field physically and noted in game scores), but they still appear to be out to belittle or embarrass the guy. When you've constructed your team to need one guy, you don't do that. It would be similar to the Vikings taking Favre back, and then trying to belittle or embarrass him. It would make no sense. The whole shift to a 3-4 defense has seemed wrongheaded by the Redskins, and they've built the whole scheme upon many players learning new positions. They were adamant that Haynesworth would play nose tackle, even though he'd be a far better end, and he's there and not complaining any more about playing nose tackle. They had what they wanted from him, and it makes no sense to antagonize him. Unless they're still involved in "let's get him to screw up so we can get some money back".It's the only part of this offseason that I think they've mismanaged. And man, have they ever mismanaged it.
Nobody wants to trade for Haynesworth because he costs too much.
 
This is why you don't give big money to 350 lbs. players.

Haynesworth, by all appearances, came into camp in great shape. Shanahan needs to realize that some guys warrant special treatment. At the same time though, this Redskins organization has been so bad for the past 10 years, that Shanahan has no choice but to try to make an example of Haynesworth.

In reality, Dan Snyder deserves 100% of the blame here.

 
More local commentary: Mike Wise of the Washington Post

Basically, Big Al is tired of being made so small by a team hellbent on making sure not even its most dominating player is held to a double standard. "I guess to make themselves look good, make me look bad for not going to their offseason conditioning program," Haynesworth said when asked why the team didn't reveal more about his condition. "But, I mean, next year I'm not coming either. I'm going to be with my trainer again and I'll get back in the same shape I am and feel good about myself."

Boy, they sure taught Albert a lesson didn't they? He finally came around and realized who was boss, huh?

Again, does Shanahan want to be right or happy? Unless he truly believes Haynesworth represents such a toxic combination of insubordination and distraction that the team would be better off without such a talent, the coach can't be both.

If Haynesworth truly hasn't earned his playing time or a position on the first team, don't play him at all after a couple of missed practices. Getting a guy game repetitions is one thing. But putting him among reserves - as possible punishment for being a malcontent - makes no sense for a guy who has missed significant time due to injury in his career.

Put him on the field with the players he's going to be playing with on opening night against Dallas. Anything else is a waste of his talent and, yes, team objectives - if the objective is to win football games with the best possible players on the roster.

But if the goal to just humiliate the guy so he doesn't care and quits entirely, thereby making the $21 million bonus he received in the spring worth going after via litigation, what a bang-up job they're doing, no?
 
Nobody wants to trade for Haynesworth because he costs too much.
Most of his bonus money is already paid. The rest of his contract is no longer guaranteed. He's a fairly affordable at his current salary now. If the Redskins are asking too much for him in trade, then they should take less. He's worth nothing to them on the bench, or suspended, or cut. They need to make up their mind what they want to do with him, which they haven't been able to do since he first talked to Shanahan in April. The regular season starts soon.
 
If he were to get released, my first guess would be that he'd go to the Eagles under a short, affordable & cut friendly contract.

 
MoP,

Here's the full text of the Sally Jenkins column:

Albert Haynesworth has failed every test issued by Mike Shanahan

By Sally Jenkins

Washington Post Staff Writer

Monday, August 23, 2010; 12:07 AM

Who do you think is going to win the contest of wills between Albert Haynesworth and Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan? The guy who once played a football game with a ruptured kidney and didn't go to the hospital until he filled a sink with vomit three times and urinated bright red blood - or the guy who felt a little faint and headachy and spit up when he got out of the hot tub? The guy with the Super Bowl rings and a record of refusing to put up with malcontents who don't get with the program? Or the guy with the energy and motivation of an aspic, whose most animated feature is his mouth, unless it's those snakes in his head?

Haynesworth has flunked every test of fitness and dedication that Shanahan has issued so far - and the tests weren't that hard. He was merely asked to do the following: get in real shape, run some shuttle sprints, practice consistently, and divert some of his colossal commitment to himself toward a group effort. He couldn't do any of it. He flunked the sprints, developed a condition called rhabdomyolysis probably because of severe muscle strain or dehydration, and played exactly two partial, undistinguished, half-effort preseason games with the second team before he threw a tantrum in which he accused the team of minimizing his ailments and basically said, "I'm so special I don't have to earn it." His exact words were, "I'm a ninth-year pro. I don't think I should have been out there in the third quarter." You know what I think? A ninth-year pro should have figured out how to train and hydrate by now without a team trainer handing him a bottle with a nipple.

Before Haynesworth makes a cringe-worthy fool of himself in public again, perhaps he should read the biography of his head coach. This is a man so committed that as a college quarterback he nearly killed himself playing in the spring game at Eastern Illinois, when he stayed on the field despite a spearing hit that shoved his kidney behind his spine and split it open. Shanahan passed out, his vital signs quit, his heart stopped beating for half a minute, and a priest gave him last rites. When the doctors finally told him he would live after five days being unconscious, he was less happy to survive than crushed to learn his career was over.

Shanahan's insistence that Haynesworth get himself into "football shape" isn't some head game he's playing. It's not some ruse to recoup Haynesworth's $21 million offseason bonus check, or some petty little punitive measure by a martinet. It's a matter of non-negotiable, foundational values to Shanahan. To know that, all you have to do is read just a few pages of Shanahan's book, "Think Like a Champion." In fact, just read the dedication. It's to his wife, Peggy. You might expect a love note. Instead, it thanks her for her "commitment, dedication, and sacrifice." Apparently the head coach's wife has more of those qualities than the highest paid member of the Redskins defense. Shanahan can't stand for that - and he won't.

Shanahan is not asking Haynesworth to play until he bleeds internally. He simply asked him to do those fundamental things NFL champions do: shape up, and buy in. Haynesworth is trying to cast Shanahan as an over-demanding Machiavellian, and no doubt Shanahan has some of those qualities, as all NFL coaches do. But that's not the real dynamic here.

Haynesworth's illness last week, which caused him to sit out practice with nausea and dizziness, is nothing to minimize - it was potentially dangerous and a good thing it was caught. But it's also a sign that Haynesworth didn't report fit, and perhaps that he cut corners. Shanahan's on-field training camp workouts have been demanding but not unreasonable, and he has clearly tried to give players adequate rest and protection.

Talk to Shanahan's former players and they'll tell you he is uncompromising but not uncompassionate. The players he has issues with are those who lack deep-seated commitment. His methods are calculated to expose them, and push them, but they aren't calculated to run people out the door. Those who yield to him and follow his program have usually been rewarded with rings and Pro Bowls, without suffering a loss of dignity. Look at Clinton Portis. Or Shannon Sharpe. Or Trevor Pryce.

Haynesworth should take the trouble to read in Shanahan's book about his conflict with Pryce, his star defensive tackle in Denver. Pryce, a first-round draft choice for the Broncos in 1997, drew Shanahan's ire when he was continually late, which Shanahan considered "completely disrespectful." Shanahan fined him to the tune of about $15,000, but Pryce continued to be a problem. Then Pryce missed a team flight in a snowstorm one Saturday in October of '97 for a road game with the Buffalo Bills. Denver was socked with about 22 inches of snow. Other players managed to fight their way to the team facility through the storm. Shanahan watched them come in the doors crusted in ice. Some guys even rode on snowmobiles to get there. Everyone made it except for Pryce, who didn't answer his phone, and missed the flight.

At the end of the season, Shanahan told Pryce if he didn't change his ways he'd be out of a job. But Shanahan didn't stop there. Every single day during the offseason, Shanahan had coaches call Pryce and harass him. "What time are you going to be here Trevor?" a coach would say. The next day the phone would ring off the hook again. "Why weren't you here today Trevor?" Finally, according to Shanahan, Pryce got it. "He realized it was easier to do the work and be accountable than put up with the constant pressure and the barrage of phone calls from our organization. . . . He became a professional."

There are a couple of morals to that story. One is that in Shanahan's value system, highly paid stars ride on snowmobiles through two-foot snowdrifts to get to work, and anything less shows contempt to teammates. The other is that Pryce won a Super Bowl ring and made four straight Pro Bowls from 1999 on. That's what can happen when a player decides to do things Shanahan's way. Those who don't find themselves off the team, and sometimes out of the league.

One thing Shanahan can't do for a player is prevent him from committing career suicide. Haynesworth had a reputation as a terrible diva by the time he left the Tennessee Titans, and only the silliness of the Redskins owner brought him here at such a price and empowered him. We've all wanted to believe in a better Haynesworth, but it's become apparent that he is discontented and complaining, and is bent on ruining his value in the league. He's the worst cliche of a head case - he demands respect instead of earns it, and lately he has cast himself as that most pitiable of things, a perpetual victim. We are supposed to see him as the casualty of the corporate machine, fighting to protect himself from the cold-hearted mechanistic coach, who tortures him with treadmills? Please.

A nine-year veteran as talented and well-compensated as Haynesworth should be a locker room leader, a setter of habits and maker of manners. Instead he has preferred to play the petulant locker room brat. It's not too late for Haynesworth to become the responsible, self-determined, durable professional the Redskins need him to be. But the only way it will happen is Shanahan's way. Haynesworth has tried it his way, and all it did was make him sick.

 
Shanny don't play like that.....

Shanny runs his own show and you either get in line or you get out of town.....he will not give in....and he won't take a job where he is not backed up by the owners in his approach.......that is why this is going to get very ugly.......this ain't Brad Childress.....Shanny will quit before he backs down......as a KC fan I hated Shanny, but I hated him because he is a good coach and his approach works......

Haynesworth seems like the typical case of a guy getting a fat contract and he thinks because he gets that contract, he gets to call the shots and dictate things.....Shanny don't play that.....I don't think Albert loves the game and actually cares whether he plays or not.....he would probably just as soon be suspended so he could go race his speedboats and ####.....

just sayin right now, Albert will be the one that has top get in line......Shanny won't compromise much, if at all, because Shanny is huge on messages and team first......

 
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MoP,

Here's the full text of the Sally Jenkins column:

Albert Haynesworth has failed every test issued by Mike Shanahan

By Sally Jenkins

Washington Post Staff Writer

Monday, August 23, 2010; 12:07 AM

Who do you think is going to win the contest of wills between Albert Haynesworth and Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan? The guy who once played a football game with a ruptured kidney and didn't go to the hospital until he filled a sink with vomit three times and urinated bright red blood - or the guy who felt a little faint and headachy and spit up when he got out of the hot tub? The guy with the Super Bowl rings and a record of refusing to put up with malcontents who don't get with the program? Or the guy with the energy and motivation of an aspic, whose most animated feature is his mouth, unless it's those snakes in his head?

Haynesworth has flunked every test of fitness and dedication that Shanahan has issued so far - and the tests weren't that hard. He was merely asked to do the following: get in real shape, run some shuttle sprints, practice consistently, and divert some of his colossal commitment to himself toward a group effort. He couldn't do any of it. He flunked the sprints, developed a condition called rhabdomyolysis probably because of severe muscle strain or dehydration, and played exactly two partial, undistinguished, half-effort preseason games with the second team before he threw a tantrum in which he accused the team of minimizing his ailments and basically said, "I'm so special I don't have to earn it." His exact words were, "I'm a ninth-year pro. I don't think I should have been out there in the third quarter." You know what I think? A ninth-year pro should have figured out how to train and hydrate by now without a team trainer handing him a bottle with a nipple. :eek:

Before Haynesworth makes a cringe-worthy fool of himself in public again, perhaps he should read the biography of his head coach. This is a man so committed that as a college quarterback he nearly killed himself playing in the spring game at Eastern Illinois, when he stayed on the field despite a spearing hit that shoved his kidney behind his spine and split it open. Shanahan passed out, his vital signs quit, his heart stopped beating for half a minute, and a priest gave him last rites. When the doctors finally told him he would live after five days being unconscious, he was less happy to survive than crushed to learn his career was over. MOP:I did not know that

Shanahan's insistence that Haynesworth get himself into "football shape" isn't some head game he's playing. It's not some ruse to recoup Haynesworth's $21 million offseason bonus check, or some petty little punitive measure by a martinet. It's a matter of non-negotiable, foundational values to Shanahan. To know that, all you have to do is read just a few pages of Shanahan's book, "Think Like a Champion." In fact, just read the dedication. It's to his wife, Peggy. You might expect a love note. Instead, it thanks her for her "commitment, dedication, and sacrifice." Apparently the head coach's wife has more of those qualities than the highest paid member of the Redskins defense. Shanahan can't stand for that - and he won't.

Shanahan is not asking Haynesworth to play until he bleeds internally. He simply asked him to do those fundamental things NFL champions do: shape up, and buy in. Haynesworth is trying to cast Shanahan as an over-demanding Machiavellian, and no doubt Shanahan has some of those qualities, as all NFL coaches do. But that's not the real dynamic here.

Haynesworth's illness last week, which caused him to sit out practice with nausea and dizziness, is nothing to minimize - it was potentially dangerous and a good thing it was caught. But it's also a sign that Haynesworth didn't report fit, and perhaps that he cut corners. Shanahan's on-field training camp workouts have been demanding but not unreasonable, and he has clearly tried to give players adequate rest and protection. :loco:

Talk to Shanahan's former players and they'll tell you he is uncompromising but not uncompassionate. The players he has issues with are those who lack deep-seated commitment. His methods are calculated to expose them, and push them, but they aren't calculated to run people out the door. Those who yield to him and follow his program have usually been rewarded with rings and Pro Bowls, without suffering a loss of dignity. Look at Clinton Portis. Or Shannon Sharpe. Or Trevor Pryce.

Haynesworth should take the trouble to read in Shanahan's book about his conflict with Pryce, his star defensive tackle in Denver. Pryce, a first-round draft choice for the Broncos in 1997, drew Shanahan's ire when he was continually late, which Shanahan considered "completely disrespectful." Shanahan fined him to the tune of about $15,000, but Pryce continued to be a problem. Then Pryce missed a team flight in a snowstorm one Saturday in October of '97 for a road game with the Buffalo Bills. Denver was socked with about 22 inches of snow. Other players managed to fight their way to the team facility through the storm. Shanahan watched them come in the doors crusted in ice. Some guys even rode on snowmobiles to get there. Everyone made it except for Pryce, who didn't answer his phone, and missed the flight.

At the end of the season, Shanahan told Pryce if he didn't change his ways he'd be out of a job. But Shanahan didn't stop there. Every single day during the offseason, Shanahan had coaches call Pryce and harass him. "What time are you going to be here Trevor?" a coach would say. The next day the phone would ring off the hook again. "Why weren't you here today Trevor?" Finally, according to Shanahan, Pryce got it. "He realized it was easier to do the work and be accountable than put up with the constant pressure and the barrage of phone calls from our organization. . . . He became a professional."

There are a couple of morals to that story. One is that in Shanahan's value system, highly paid stars ride on snowmobiles through two-foot snowdrifts to get to work, and anything less shows contempt to teammates. The other is that Pryce won a Super Bowl ring and made four straight Pro Bowls from 1999 on. That's what can happen when a player decides to do things Shanahan's way. Those who don't find themselves off the team, and sometimes out of the league.

One thing Shanahan can't do for a player is prevent him from committing career suicide. Haynesworth had a reputation as a terrible diva by the time he left the Tennessee Titans, and only the silliness of the Redskins owner brought him here at such a price and empowered him. We've all wanted to believe in a better Haynesworth, but it's become apparent that he is discontented and complaining, and is bent on ruining his value in the league. He's the worst cliche of a head case - he demands respect instead of earns it, and lately he has cast himself as that most pitiable of things, a perpetual victim. We are supposed to see him as the casualty of the corporate machine, fighting to protect himself from the cold-hearted mechanistic coach, who tortures him with treadmills? Please. MOP: It's clear she would like to see Haynesworth humiliated. This would be where I might step in another direction. She comes across like the type that says "They make millions and I get paid $50,000 a yr to write this column"...yeah OK so what?

A nine-year veteran as talented and well-compensated (I told you) as Haynesworth should be a locker room leader, a setter of habits and maker of manners. Instead he has preferred to play the petulant locker room brat. It's not too late for Haynesworth to become the responsible, self-determined, durable professional the Redskins need him to be. But the only way it will happen is Shanahan's way. Haynesworth has tried it his way, and all it did was make him sick.
She's good, she has some great points, but she goes a little too far over the top and her jealousy of the money these guys get paid would rub me the wrong way. If you don't like it find something else to write about. But she is a woman in a man's world although that is quickly changing, I'm sure she has a pretty good following of folks. Thank you so much for posting this.

 
I feel like Shanny went too far though. Haynesworth says there were medical reasons he missed practice this week. But Shanny should not be sending a $100 million DT into the game with the 3rd unit in the 4th quarter.

Shanny saying that Haynesworth has to earn his way into the line up...enough is enough. Obviously this relationship isn't going to work so just trade him or cut him. Unfortunately I also agree with the above poster that Haynesworth is going to get suspended now and probably a 4 gamer to start with, 2 at a minimum. Albert seems to want to push the issues.

Snyder must be having a lot of fun watching this.
Terrible idea, which is why it hasnt happened and isn't happening. Just because someone acts out a bit does NOT mean you should trade him for next to nothing, or cut him FOR nothing.a) it sends a terrible message to the team. Whine and you can get what you want.

b) an opponent can/will pick him up

c) you will get next to no $ back by doing this

Shanny knows what he's doing.
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The Redskins fired their PR guy, Zack Bolno. He was well-liked and well-respected by the local press. No details on why he was fired, yet. I'm assuming it had something to do with the Haynesworth situation.

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