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The Hug Life Chronicles: :( (3 Viewers)

So Stacy has seen you be a good friend, with a moral compass, offended by your friends cheating.

You scored a few dozen points in her head before your 6 for 6 night.

 
Yankee23Fan said:
So Stacy has seen you be a good friend, with a moral compass, offended by your friends cheating.

You scored a few dozen points in her head before your 6 for 6 night.
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Perhaps. We mentioned it early in the week, just trying to see if Kate was talking to either of us. Haven't discussed it a whole lot. We may talk about it some tomorrow. 

Oh, and Kate didn't even have a clue that Stacy was there until a couple of days later. I wasn't going to say anything, unless she asked, but Stacy inadvertently let her know that she had come home with me. 

 
Quasi-celeb comparison for Kate is the sister of Britney Spears. She has actually been asked if she was her before. 

Kate is about a 7.5 all dolled up. And about a 6 without. 

 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
Now for the other fork in the story… This picks back up at the conclusion of Chapter 4. And forgive me if these thoughts are somewhat scattered on this one. This is my friend. And some of this hurts me to say, but it’s the truth.

After hearing the noise of the door opening, I promptly forgot that bit of commotion and fell back asleep. Stacy was still asleep as well. I woke up a little while later and had to hit the head, so I go and take care of my business and decide I better check on Kate and make sure she is alive. Her bedroom door is pushed to, but slightly ajar.  I push the door open and from across the room, I observe the back of a very distinguishable bald and scarred head face down, under the covers, on top of a very distinguishable head of blonde hair. Now I didn’t KNOW for sure at that point that Dave, a seemingly very married individual, was railing one of my good friends, who happened to be good friends with Dave’s wife MJ. I didn’t know that. Maybe they were just kissing. Maybe they were just sleeping with aggressive restlessness in close proximity to one another. It didn’t look like or sound like the sechs was happening from what I could see of them at that time, so I didn’t want to presume. This is fine! This is all fine! I quickly and quietly backed out of the room, undetected by the pair, and slink back down the hallway. Stacy was stirring when I got back to the couch and looked up as I approached. I think my face, probably something like :shock:  at that point, probably gave away the fact that something was clearly wrong. Stacy says “what is it? What’s wrong??” and I say “It’s Dave. She ####### brought Dave here.” And I don’t think it registered to her what I meant just yet. That is, until a few moments later when we hear, coming from down the hall, some quiet moans and squeaking mattress noises. THIS IS FINE!! I’m sure they’re just playing mattress trampoline!!!! :wall:  

Stacy and I look at each other. :eek: :shock: and I whisperyell “WHAT THE ####?!?” :wall: This #### is bad. This #### is really bad. 

We sat there in stunned silence for a few seconds. I didn’t know what to say.  I just know that I wished that I hadn’t seen or heard any of what had just taken place.

Stacy dozed back off and I tried to but I just couldn’t sleep after that. She woke up around 10AM and we talk quietly for a few minutes and then I grab my stuff, left Kate’s key on the table, and we head out.

Kate texts me about 2 hours later and says something to the effect of “Hey, I am having some pretty big gaps in my memory from last night and trying to piece some things together, but hope you had a good time!”  Bull####. I knew right away she was fishing to see what I knew and if I was going to say anything. 

I didn’t reply to her until Tuesday. I was busy the rest of Sunday with my kids and also running on about 30 minutes of sleep, but I was also pissed, hurt, and a quite honestly a little disgusted with Kate’s behavior, for the entire night, not just the Dave situation.  I know she knew I knew that something was up, because she and I text pretty much daily, and I never go without replying. I told her I was sorry that I hadn’t responded but I had a lot to say and I needed to talk to her, either a phone call or in person.  She said OK and she knew that I must have been upset about something she did, and that she was trying to piece things together. :rolleyes:  

We both had stuff going on the rest of that week and I was ahem busy last weekend, so we didn’t get to talk until this week.

It went about as I expected. I basically recapped the entire night for her (a lot of which was a surprise to her), and told her she was off the rails Saturday night, and that I was worried about her drinking. I know more than what was told here, but let’s just say I’ve had my suspicions that she might be a borderline alcoholic, but seeing her in action and seeing her reaction to me talking to her about it, pretty much confirms it for me.  She claimed that she was “good” and that that night was just a fluke because she had had 3 Red Bulls, and that she doesn’t get that bad drunk any more (regularly), and that it was just a bad decision that night.  
 

I then brought up the Dave situation, not because I had much to say about it (not much that could be said at that point), but because I wanted her to know for certain that I knew what the hell was going on. She didn’t have a whole lot to say about it either. I could tell she was a little ashamed, yet she still tried to make a couple of excuses and somewhat legitimize her terrible decision making. I said “what happens when this #### blows up? Because it WILL, it’s just a matter of WHEN.” She says “I will not admit this to anyone other than you. I will lie if I am accused.” :wall: :rant:  

By the end of the conversation she’s starting to slur her speech. Yep, she’s drunk. :wall:  She says she’s got to go to sleep, and we had been on the phone for probably 2 hours at that point. 

She texts me the next morning and says “did I fall asleep talking to you? I don’t remember the end of the conversation”  which really pissed me off, considering I had taken 2 hours of my life to try and express genuine concern for her well-being, and we exchanged a few heated words over text. Things calm, she apologizes, and I call her again that night and recap the end of the conversation, and she’s not drunk but drinking a little (as always). But she was much more coherent, and even sounded a little remorseful. She apologized for her behavior, for her bad decisions, and said that she really appreciated the concern but reiterated that she was fine.

I don’t know what happens from here. I am guessing that:  she will keep drinking; she and Dave will probably continue to play mattress trampoline and pretend to their entire circle of friends, including MJ, that nothing is going on; she will deny any wrongdoing and shrug off any responsibility.

She’s still my friend, but it just really made me look at her in a whole different light. And not a good one.  I don’t have a good poker face in situations like this. I honestly don’t know how I will act next time I am around her.

Sorry for the depressing update.
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For a good, close friend, I think you need to allow him/her a flaw. 

 
Spike said:
Her flaw, “a” flaw, is her behavior with Dave that night/morning. 

Our friends are not perfect. We decide if the flaws they have are such that we actively remain friends with them. 
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Gotcha. Yes, and this was the internal struggle I had. There's some context that I didn't share that also factored in on my decision, but it was very much a crossroads for me with her. Not to sound like I'm on a moral high horse, but more as someone posted earlier, to distance myself (and my family) from any of that kind of behavior. I simply want no part of it, and wish I didn't even know about it.  We will remain friends, at least for now, but she knows that i absolutely do not approve of that behavior.  

If we lived in the same town and hung out regularly, it would probably be a harder decision for me to make as well. 

 
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belljr said:
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE RANDOM GUY?
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:lol: No one seems to know. I think he thought he was getting lucky with Margot and she probably just kissed him and sent him on his way. When I recapped the night to Kate, she said she didn't even know anyone by his name. I like to think that he did me a solid and just Ubered out of there when he realized he wasn't spending the night with Margot. Here's to you, Random Guy, wherever you may be.  :banned:

 
Frostillicus said:
How could you even pretend to know this?
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she got drunk on the phone while he was talking to her for 2 hrs.   let alone she's banging a married dude and then says flat out she'll deny it.   From the entire several paragraphs that Nate posted, its obvious she's a lush.

 
Yeah I mean, you've been close friends for a year and you text basically every day and you care about her enough to talk to her on the phone for two hours but yeah, now that it looks like something is very wrong in her life you should just be like, bye felicia.

 
Frostillicus said:
Yeah I mean, you've been close friends for a year and you text basically every day and you care about her enough to talk to her on the phone for two hours but yeah, now that it looks like something is very wrong in her life you should just be like, bye felicia.
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Wait...who's Felicia?

 
Frostillicus said:
Yeah I mean, you've been close friends for a year and you text basically every day and you care about her enough to talk to her on the phone for two hours but yeah, now that it looks like something is very wrong in her life you should just be like, bye felicia.
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 exactly. These boards scare me sometimes. Guy has a close friend regardless of how long he knew her and now because she has some issues people are suggesting kicking her to the curb. I wouldn't wanna be their friends.

 
shadyridr said:
 exactly. These boards scare me sometimes. Guy has a close friend regardless of how long he knew her and now because she has some issues people are suggesting kicking her to the curb. I wouldn't wanna be their friends.
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I suggested he bring her into his relations with Stacy, I'm not mean like these others

 
Are you friends with Dave/MJ or is that in the offing if things progress with Stacy? If so, I think I would have kept it from Kate that you knew about Dave being there. It's all about plausible deniability there. If and when this goes nuclear, if it's found out that you knew and stayed silent, you could get dragged through the mud. You've also implicated Stacy in the complicity. 

If these people are nothing to you and will be nothing to you, you still could have held that trump card to extort blackmail anal from Kate in the event that Stacy decides to up and move to Pahrump, NV or become a long-haul trucker. 

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Are you friends with Dave/MJ or is that in the offing if things progress with Stacy? If so, I think I would have kept it from Kate that you knew about Dave being there. It's all about plausible deniability there. If and when this goes nuclear, if it's found out that you knew and stayed silent, you could get dragged through the mud. You've also implicated Stacy in the complicity. 

If these people are nothing to you and will be nothing to you, you still could have held that trump card to extort blackmail anal from Kate in the event that Stacy decides to up and move to Pahrump, NV or become a long-haul trucker. 
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To be fair, Kate doesn't sound like the type of girl that needs to be blackmailed in order to perform anal.    :wub:

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
Are you friends with Dave/MJ or is that in the offing if things progress with Stacy? If so, I think I would have kept it from Kate that you knew about Dave being there. It's all about plausible deniability there. If and when this goes nuclear, if it's found out that you knew and stayed silent, you could get dragged through the mud. You've also implicated Stacy in the complicity. 

If these people are nothing to you and will be nothing to you, you still could have held that trump card to extort blackmail anal from Kate in the event that Stacy decides to up and move to Pahrump, NV or become a long-haul trucker. 
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That night was my first time to meet both of them, so not too worried about their opinion of me.  But I do worry about Stacy and said pretty much those exact words to her (about her being implicated) when we did briefly discuss it. Though it wasn't me that implicated her. Stacy had mentioned to Kate in passing later in the week that she was there with me. Kate was clueless that Stacy had been there. Kate acted like it was news to her that Stacy was there when I talked to her on the phone, but I already knew that Kate knew otherwise (per Stacy). But hell, maybe Kate was drunk and forgot about Stacy telling her, who knows. Pretty sure Stacy's plan is to just play dumb to it all. She's kinda like me, not wanting to be a part of any of it, but it's a little trickier for her since this is her group of friends and she sees most of them way more often that I do. And although she is friends with Kate, they've only been friends since last summer, so it's not like they're lifelong best friends or anything. If push comes to shove, I think Stacy would rat Kate out if directly asked, and I wouldn't blame her. 

 
I’m not sure why anyone has a problem with Kate’s actions. Kate didn’t get married, she didn’t make a vow. For all we know, she is a wise broad that doesn’t believe in the institution of marriage. Rag on the married guy if you must but even that seems like a stretch. He had his #### tossed to the curb, pretty sure by almost anyone’s moral standards that entitles him to go nail some strange.

 
tommyboy said:
she got drunk on the phone while he was talking to her for 2 hrs.   let alone she's banging a married dude and then says flat out she'll deny it.   From the entire several paragraphs that Nate posted, its obvious she's a lush.
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What's your point, judgy mcsoftdrink?

 
JuniorGong said:
I’m not sure why anyone has a problem with Kate’s actions. Kate didn’t get married, she didn’t make a vow. For all we know, she is a wise broad that doesn’t believe in the institution of marriage. Rag on the married guy if you must but even that seems like a stretch. He had his #### tossed to the curb, pretty sure by almost anyone’s moral standards that entitles him to go nail some strange.
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This. 

Also I kinda thought OP was a Boy Scout before... now I think he’s a WEBLOS. 

 
JuniorGong said:
I’m not sure why anyone has a problem with Kate’s actions. Kate didn’t get married, she didn’t make a vow. For all we know, she is a wise broad that doesn’t believe in the institution of marriage. Rag on the married guy if you must but even that seems like a stretch. He had his #### tossed to the curb, pretty sure by almost anyone’s moral standards that entitles him to go nail some strange.
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Aren't Kate and MJ friends? You wouldn't have an issue with one of your buddies plowing your wife if the two of you had a fight because your friend didn't make a vow? 

 
Son, we live in a world that has bars. And those bars need to be frequented by lushes with liver damage. Who's going to do it? You? You, Lieutenant Wineboy?

 
Bob Sacamano said:
Son, we live in a world that has bars. And those bars need to be frequented by lushes with liver damage. Who's going to do it? You? You, Lieutenant Wineboy?
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Possibly my favorite line in the whole movie. How Weinberg didn't yell out : "Me? WTF did I do?" is beyond me. Such a sniper shot by Jessep. 

 
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