The Joe Biden Thread- things are looking up (3 Viewers)

[Stealthycat]

We should absolutely do that. Yesterday. But it should have no impact on what we give to Ukraine.

we are 31 trillion in debt

eventually throwing tens of billions around will catch the USA, we will default and the global collapse will be astonishing - I think you had a thread on it once?? the runaway spending ?

 

[Stealthycat]

I can't wait for our heating bills to double this winter, then hear Biden tell us how expensive Europe's bills are.

no way around it - utilities will double or maybe triple ..... Joe B way

 

[timschochet]

There is no historical standard by which your statement is true.

inflation

checkmate

Much worse, by percentage, under several other Presidents. When Carter was President interest rates were at 19%.

 

[the moops]

the last 18-24 months of Joe B and Democrats are historically bad

I'll take my chances with GOP

You should take a look at who was president 24 months ago

 

[timschochet]

Ukraine is winning the war.

how does that effect me one way or the other ??? I know Ukraine has food/energy that impacts global things ... but me? I don't care if Russia takes Ukraine or not really. I'm much more worried about our own people. If Ukraine is strong enough to beat Russia ok ... but its not really our business.

is it ?

Well first off it makes your judgment completely wrong since for months you predicted that Russia could do whatever it wanted in Ukraine, and like your hero Trump you appeared to support Putin. Now you claim indifference but whatever.

I don’t have the time in this post to explain the advantages to the United States, and to you as an American citizen, of supporting NATO, Ukraine, and our international commitments. All I will say here is that if Ukraine is victorious, your children and grandchildren will live in a safer, more prosperous world.

 

[FairWarning]

the last 18-24 months of Joe B and Democrats are historically bad

I'll take my chances with GOP

You should take a look at who was president 24 months ago

I'm only concerned with who is today and tomorrow.

 

[urbanhack]

Someone should tell the left that we can have a democracy AND a better economy. Is that too much to ask?

What should we be doing right now to have a better economy? What changes / legislation / action would you take or would a republican pres be doing right now?

How much confidence do you have in the economy this winter? I have none. I also have no confidernce in an administration who will tell YOU what YOU want to hear, while WE see different.

So no answer to my original question? Are you just going to ignore?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Since January we’ve given 13.5 billion to Ukraine. It sure looks like that’s money well spent. How would you spend it differently?

how exactly was it well spent?

Ukraine is winning the war.

Prove it

 

[dkp993]

It isn’t. But voting for Republicans this time around won’t get you there.

the last 18-24 months of Joe B and Democrats are historically bad

I'll take my chances with GOP

There is no historical standard by which your statement is true.

inflation

checkmate

This narrative that inflation wouldn’t be in place if the GOP had won the last election is a wonderful fantasy land. Do they have free ice cream there too?

 

[FairWarning]

Someone should tell the left that we can have a democracy AND a better economy. Is that too much to ask?

What should we be doing right now to have a better economy? What changes / legislation / action would you take or would a republican pres be doing right now?

How much confidence do you have in the economy this winter? I have none. I also have no confidernce in an administration who will tell YOU what YOU want to hear, while WE see different.

So no answer to my original question? Are you just going to ignore?

The government cant keep spending, we have to take our medicine now. You guys voted him in, enjoy. I'm the minority.

 

[FairWarning]

It isn’t. But voting for Republicans this time around won’t get you there.

the last 18-24 months of Joe B and Democrats are historically bad

I'll take my chances with GOP

There is no historical standard by which your statement is true.

inflation

checkmate

This narrative that inflation wouldn’t be in place if the GOP had won the last election is a wonderful fantasy land. Do they have free ice cream there too?

with the best sprinkles.

 

[timschochet]

Since January we’ve given 13.5 billion to Ukraine. It sure looks like that’s money well spent. How would you spend it differently?

how exactly was it well spent?

Ukraine is winning the war.

Prove it

Are you watching the news? They haven’t won yet but they’re certainly winning right now.

 

[Stealthycat]

This narrative that inflation wouldn’t be in place if the GOP had won the last election is a wonderful fantasy land. Do they have free ice cream there too?

we don't know how it would have all went

we DO know how its went with Democrats running it - fantastically horrible

 

[Stealthycat]

Are you watching the news? They haven’t won yet but they’re certainly winning right now.

well the news wouldn't be wrong or misreport would they ??

 

[RCon]

Deficit spending increases inflation, so reducing that will help lower every day costs for Americans. The money comes from somewhere, taxes or borrowing, so sending more out while we struggle here doesn't make a lot of sense.

This seems to be the right's standard argument that deficits matter (when a Democrat is in office). How about instead of cutting support for Ukraine, we lower our defense budget by a couple percent or reverse the Trump tax cuts?

 

[RCon]

with the best sprinkles.

Total hijack, but I really, really dislike sprinkles on my ice cream.

 

[FairWarning]

Deficit spending increases inflation, so reducing that will help lower every day costs for Americans. The money comes from somewhere, taxes or borrowing, so sending more out while we struggle here doesn't make a lot of sense.

This seems to be the right's standard argument that deficits matter (when a Democrat is in office). How about instead of cutting support for Ukraine, we lower our defense budget by a couple percent or reverse the Trump tax cuts?

I suggested the reversal of the tax cuts, was told it can't be done.

 

[RCon]

Deficit spending increases inflation, so reducing that will help lower every day costs for Americans. The money comes from somewhere, taxes or borrowing, so sending more out while we struggle here doesn't make a lot of sense.

This seems to be the right's standard argument that deficits matter (when a Democrat is in office). How about instead of cutting support for Ukraine, we lower our defense budget by a couple percent or reverse the Trump tax cuts?

I suggested the reversal of the tax cuts, was told it can't be done.

It could be, with a couple GOP votes in the Senate. It can't be with zero GOP votes because as of now, there aren't enough D votes.

 

[sho nuff]

This narrative that inflation wouldn’t be in place if the GOP had won the last election is a wonderful fantasy land. Do they have free ice cream there too?

we don't know how it would have all went

we DO know how its went with Democrats running it - fantastically horrible

Well...we know how it was looking when they took over...and it was bad then too. We know that the spending prior to Biden was also high...and rates were kept artificially low. We know awful trade wars were started and tariffs put in place that have hurt us (that biden aboslutely should repeal those tariffs)
That is not to say Biden has not added to it...but its extremely short sighted to just claim its all a disaster because of him...as it does not appear there were plans to lower spending had Trump won either.

 

[dkp993]

This narrative that inflation wouldn’t be in place if the GOP had won the last election is a wonderful fantasy land. Do they have free ice cream there too?

we don't know how it would have all went

we DO know how its went with Democrats running it - fantastically horrible

Oh that’s a fun game to play, I love the “we don’t know what would’ve happened” game especially with things that we know exactly what would’ve happened. That’s a Fun Parisian game. So with this mindset we get to blame Trump for the pandemic happening. Awesome.

Inflation was happening 100% guaranteed regardless of who got elected. What we don’t know is would’ve been better or worse, that’s fair. But to act as if we wouldn’t be 90% of where we are now is laughable to say the least.

 

[Max Power]

Deficit spending increases inflation, so reducing that will help lower every day costs for Americans. The money comes from somewhere, taxes or borrowing, so sending more out while we struggle here doesn't make a lot of sense.

This seems to be the right's standard argument that deficits matter (when a Democrat is in office). How about instead of cutting support for Ukraine, we lower our defense budget by a couple percent or reverse the Trump tax cuts?

We already have lowered our defense budgets and increased taxes. I just dont think the Ukraine spending makes sense when our military is telling a quarter of enlisted to go sign up for food stamps to feed their familes.

 

[sho nuff]

Deficit spending increases inflation, so reducing that will help lower every day costs for Americans. The money comes from somewhere, taxes or borrowing, so sending more out while we struggle here doesn't make a lot of sense.

This seems to be the right's standard argument that deficits matter (when a Democrat is in office). How about instead of cutting support for Ukraine, we lower our defense budget by a couple percent or reverse the Trump tax cuts?

I suggested the reversal of the tax cuts, was told it can't be done.

I think you were told it would not be done prior to midterms as nobody is going to be running on raising taxes going into elections.

 

[the moops]

Are you watching the news? They haven’t won yet but they’re certainly winning right now.

well the news wouldn't be wrong or misreport would they ??

So do you think Ukraine is losing the war? And if so, what are you basing that on?

 

[urbanhack]

Someone should tell the left that we can have a democracy AND a better economy. Is that too much to ask?

What should we be doing right now to have a better economy? What changes / legislation / action would you take or would a republican pres be doing right now?

How much confidence do you have in the economy this winter? I have none. I also have no confidernce in an administration who will tell YOU what YOU want to hear, while WE see different.

So no answer to my original question? Are you just going to ignore?

The government cant keep spending, we have to take our medicine now. You guys voted him in, enjoy. I'm the minority.

What should we be doing right now to have a better economy? What changes / legislation / action would you take or would a republican pres be doing right now?

 

[Stealthycat]

Oh that’s a fun game to play, I love the “we don’t know what would’ve happened” game especially with things that we know exactly what would’ve happened. That’s a Fun Parisian game. So with this mindset we get to blame Trump for the pandemic happening. Awesome.

Inflation was happening 100% guaranteed regardless of who got elected. What we don’t know is would’ve been better or worse, that’s fair. But to act as if we wouldn’t be 90% of where we are now is laughable to say the least.

don't pretend you know what would have happened had Trump won in 2020 - we don't know

its not laughable at all - you are trying to act like whomever lead this nation, house and senate is irrelevant ...... it isn't. It absolutely makes a difference who is leading and who is passing laws/rules/spending packages, foreign relations, SC nominations etc etc

we wouldn't be 90% where we are - I don't believe that at all

 

[sho nuff]

Oh that’s a fun game to play, I love the “we don’t know what would’ve happened” game especially with things that we know exactly what would’ve happened. That’s a Fun Parisian game. So with this mindset we get to blame Trump for the pandemic happening. Awesome.

Inflation was happening 100% guaranteed regardless of who got elected. What we don’t know is would’ve been better or worse, that’s fair. But to act as if we wouldn’t be 90% of where we are now is laughable to say the least.

don't pretend you know what would have happened had Trump won in 2020 - we don't know

its not laughable at all - you are trying to act like whomever lead this nation, house and senate is irrelevant ...... it isn't. It absolutely makes a difference who is leading and who is passing laws/rules/spending packages, foreign relations, SC nominations etc etc

we wouldn't be 90% where we are - I don't believe that at all

Seems we would have similar spending if not more...tax cuts which would not have helped. Likely not going to try and raise rates because that would make him look bad...a few more "infrastructure weeks".
Probably a few pardons for heinous actions on January 6th, and investigations into Hunter Biden and why not one for Hillary too for old time's sake.

I don't think its pretending to know...but informed speculation that we would not be in any better shape when it comes to inflation right now other than trying to kick the can down the road further.
and its not all that logical to just claim its all Biden and Democrats fault.

 

[dkp993]

Oh that’s a fun game to play, I love the “we don’t know what would’ve happened” game especially with things that we know exactly what would’ve happened. That’s a Fun Parisian game. So with this mindset we get to blame Trump for the pandemic happening. Awesome.

Inflation was happening 100% guaranteed regardless of who got elected. What we don’t know is would’ve been better or worse, that’s fair. But to act as if we wouldn’t be 90% of where we are now is laughable to say the least.

don't pretend you know what would have happened had Trump won in 2020 - we don't know

its not laughable at all - you are trying to act like whomever lead this nation, house and senate is irrelevant ...... it isn't. It absolutely makes a difference who is leading and who is passing laws/rules/spending packages, foreign relations, SC nominations etc etc

we wouldn't be 90% where we are - I don't believe that at all

So then you agree the worldwide pandemic wouldn’t have happened if Trump hadn’t been elected. Good to know

 

[Stealthycat]

So do you think Ukraine is losing the war? And if so, what are you basing that on?

I don't know

What I do find ridiculous is to think that that Ukraine, population 44 millions, The land has a total area of 603,550 km² (233,032 mi²) and a total coastline of 2,782 km and with Ukraine ranked 22 of 142 out of the countries in military might ..... is winning a battle vs Russia, 144 million people.... It is the largest country in the world by area, covering over 17,098,246 square kilometres (6,601,670 sq mi,) ...... Russia is ranked 2 of 142 out of the countries considered

Sure, they could. But does it really make a lot of sense that they ARE ???

 

[Stealthycat]

and its not all that logical to just claim its all Biden and Democrats fault

fault ?

well any bills/laws they passed with majority kinda is ..... but regardless, its all their responsibility as leaders .... they're the head coaches, they own this disaster

 

[Stealthycat]

So then you agree the worldwide pandemic wouldn’t have happened if Trump hadn’t been elected. Good to know

did I ever say that ?

how Trump responded is absolutely his to own, his administration sure

just like Biden's ..... hundreds of thousands more dead under Joe ... don't forget

 

[the moops]

Sure, they could. But does it really make a lot of sense that they ARE ???

I guess if you think everything is a conspiracy it doesn't make sense

 

[sho nuff]

and its not all that logical to just claim its all Biden and Democrats fault

fault ?

well any bills/laws they passed with majority kinda is ..... but regardless, its all their responsibility as leaders .... they're the head coaches, they own this disaster

Yes...the amounts they added to things are on them. The effect overall is debatable.
Similarly...the tax cuts affected it, tariffs affected it, monetary policy has affected it.
Several presidents own this disaster and several versions of Congress...both R and D.

 

[dkp993]

So then you agree the worldwide pandemic wouldn’t have happened if Trump hadn’t been elected. Good to know

did I ever say that ?

how Trump responded is absolutely his to own, his administration sure

just like Biden's ..... hundreds of thousands more dead under Joe ... don't forget

Stealthy this isn’t hard. Your theory is that the world inflation might not have happened if Trump/the GOP had been elected. So along those exact line of thoughts the worldwide pandemic might not have happened if Trump hadn’t been elected. You are blaming Biden for the inflation. Therefore Trump is blamed for the pandemic.

Do you now see the flaw in this/your line of thinking?

 

[urbanhack]

Deficit spending increases inflation, so reducing that will help lower every day costs for Americans. The money comes from somewhere, taxes or borrowing, so sending more out while we struggle here doesn't make a lot of sense.

This seems to be the right's standard argument that deficits matter (when a Democrat is in office). How about instead of cutting support for Ukraine, we lower our defense budget by a couple percent or reverse the Trump tax cuts?

We already have lowered our defense budgets and increased taxes. I just dont think the Ukraine spending makes sense when our military is telling a quarter of enlisted to go sign up for food stamps to feed their familes.

We have?

U.S. House passes bill boosting Biden's record defense budget​

U.S. House passes bill boosting Biden's record defense budget

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill on Thursday paving the way for the defense budget to exceed $800 billion next year, authorizing $37 billion in spending on top of the record $773 billion proposed by President Joe Biden.

www.reuters.com

 

[Zegras11]

Someone should tell the left that we can have a democracy AND a better economy. Is that too much to ask?

What should we be doing right now to have a better economy? What changes / legislation / action would you take or would a republican pres be doing right now?

How much confidence do you have in the economy this winter? I have none. I also have no confidernce in an administration who will tell YOU what YOU want to hear, while WE see different.

So no answer to my original question? Are you just going to ignore?

The government cant keep spending, we have to take our medicine now. You guys voted him in, enjoy. I'm the minority.

I left the R party in 2016. One of the main reasons is they were no longer fiscally responsible, despite their claims. How much did Trump add to the debt?

Both parties don't give a ****.

Donald Trump​

At the end of fiscal year 2020, the debt was $26.9 trillion. Trump added $6.7 trillion to the debt between fiscal year 2017 and fiscal year 2020, a 33.1% increase, largely due to the effects of the coronavirus pandemic and 2020 recession.


In his FY 2021 budget, Trump's budget included a $966 billion deficit.16 However, the national debt actually grew by $1.5 trillion between October 1, 2020, and October 1, 2021.

• FY 2021: $1.5 trillion
• FY 2020: $4.2 trillion
• FY 2019: $1.2 trillion
• FY 2018: $1.3 trillion

Barack Obama​

President Obama added about $8.6 trillion, about a 74% increase, to the national debt at the end of President Bush’s last budget in 2009.

• FY 2017: $671 billion
• FY 2016: $1.42 trillion
• FY 2015: $326 billion
• FY 2014: $1.09 trillion
• FY 2013: $672 billion
• FY 2012: $1.28 trillion
• FY 2011: $1.23 trillion
• FY 2010: $1.65 trillion
  
  
  

  US Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

  Depending on how you measure it, different presidents have added to the national debt. Check out how the national debt has increased by year and president.

  www.thebalancemoney.com

 

[Cowboysfan8]

I can't wait for our heating bills to double this winter, then hear Biden tell us how expensive Europe's bills are.

This

I’ve mentioned it before to :crickets: but heating oil season is right around the corner
Yes people are doing what they have to do to buy groceries and put gas in their cars.
Heating oil is 4.59 here right now, a lot of working class people are going to struggle to heat their homes.

But yeah, “85 days straight of falling gas prices !!!!!!!”

gross

 

[sho nuff]

Its gross to say that gas prices have been falling? After people complained about them going up and blamed Biden for it for months?

 

[urbanhack]

The price of oil per barrel is almost identical today as the same time last year. Why is Biden keeping gas prices high for the US and the rest of world????

 

[timschochet]

Are you watching the news? They haven’t won yet but they’re certainly winning right now.

well the news wouldn't be wrong or misreport would they ??

More evidence as to why it is extremely difficult to engage in a reasonable discussion with many modern day conservatives- they reject the truth of any news which runs contrary to preheld conditions.

 

[timschochet]

So do you think Ukraine is losing the war? And if so, what are you basing that on?

I don't know

What I do find ridiculous is to think that that Ukraine, population 44 millions, The land has a total area of 603,550 km² (233,032 mi²) and a total coastline of 2,782 km and with Ukraine ranked 22 of 142 out of the countries in military might ..... is winning a battle vs Russia, 144 million people.... It is the largest country in the world by area, covering over 17,098,246 square kilometres (6,601,670 sq mi,) ...... Russia is ranked 2 of 142 out of the countries considered

Sure, they could. But does it really make a lot of sense that they ARE ???

If you’ve ever studied warfare, then you know that population size is almost never a factor. What matters is technology and equipment, the numbers of each side at the point of attack, generalship, a good officer corp, and the morale of the soldiers in the field.


ETA And perhaps most important of all in today’s warfare which is often asymmetrical: which side are the civilians on?

 

[FairWarning]

This narrative that inflation wouldn’t be in place if the GOP had won the last election is a wonderful fantasy land. Do they have free ice cream there too?

we don't know how it would have all went

we DO know how its went with Democrats running it - fantastically horrible

Well...we know how it was looking when they took over...and it was bad then too. We know that the spending prior to Biden was also high...and rates were kept artificially low. We know awful trade wars were started and tariffs put in place that have hurt us (that biden aboslutely should repeal those tariffs)
That is not to say Biden has not added to it...but its extremely short sighted to just claim its all a disaster because of him...as it does not appear there were plans to lower spending had Trump won either.

How much of the spending was outside of COVID relief though. Pretty much all countries were giving out some sort of relief (what were the other options)?

 

[sho nuff]

This narrative that inflation wouldn’t be in place if the GOP had won the last election is a wonderful fantasy land. Do they have free ice cream there too?

we don't know how it would have all went

we DO know how its went with Democrats running it - fantastically horrible

Well...we know how it was looking when they took over...and it was bad then too. We know that the spending prior to Biden was also high...and rates were kept artificially low. We know awful trade wars were started and tariffs put in place that have hurt us (that biden aboslutely should repeal those tariffs)
That is not to say Biden has not added to it...but its extremely short sighted to just claim its all a disaster because of him...as it does not appear there were plans to lower spending had Trump won either.

How much of the spending was outside of COVID relief though. Pretty much all countries were giving out some sort of relief (what were the other options)?

Id have to look back. But nommatter what it was for…it was still spent. Thus more cash into the system…thus a part of inflation.

 

[Max Power]

Deficit spending increases inflation, so reducing that will help lower every day costs for Americans. The money comes from somewhere, taxes or borrowing, so sending more out while we struggle here doesn't make a lot of sense.

This seems to be the right's standard argument that deficits matter (when a Democrat is in office). How about instead of cutting support for Ukraine, we lower our defense budget by a couple percent or reverse the Trump tax cuts?

We already have lowered our defense budgets and increased taxes. I just dont think the Ukraine spending makes sense when our military is telling a quarter of enlisted to go sign up for food stamps to feed their familes.

We have?

U.S. House passes bill boosting Biden's record defense budget​

U.S. House passes bill boosting Biden's record defense budget

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill on Thursday paving the way for the defense budget to exceed $800 billion next year, authorizing $37 billion in spending on top of the record $773 billion proposed by President Joe Biden.

www.reuters.com

I had to look into this a bit because it goes against all the moves we're making right now and our constant discussions on downsizing. So yes, the total number will be a record, but its a reduction % wise of our federal spending. Army is also getting hit the worst of all the branches.

 

[FairWarning]

This narrative that inflation wouldn’t be in place if the GOP had won the last election is a wonderful fantasy land. Do they have free ice cream there too?

we don't know how it would have all went

we DO know how its went with Democrats running it - fantastically horrible

Well...we know how it was looking when they took over...and it was bad then too. We know that the spending prior to Biden was also high...and rates were kept artificially low. We know awful trade wars were started and tariffs put in place that have hurt us (that biden aboslutely should repeal those tariffs)
That is not to say Biden has not added to it...but its extremely short sighted to just claim its all a disaster because of him...as it does not appear there were plans to lower spending had Trump won either.

How much of the spending was outside of COVID relief though. Pretty much all countries were giving out some sort of relief (what were the other options)?

Id have to look back. But nommatter what it was for…it was still spent. Thus more cash into the system…thus a part of inflation.

What is worse - COVID relief for all or making good on campaign promises to entitled collegians when inflation is an issue?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Its gross to say that gas prices have been falling? After people complained about them going up and blamed Biden for it for months?

Yes, it is gross to celebrate a $3.71 national average for a gallon of regular unleaded

 

[Stealthycat]

Stealthy this isn’t hard. Your theory is that the world inflation might not have happened if Trump/the GOP had been elected. So along those exact line of thoughts the worldwide pandemic might not have happened if Trump hadn’t been elected. You are blaming Biden for the inflation. Therefore Trump is blamed for the pandemic.

Do you now see the flaw in this/your line of thinking?

I never said inflation wouldn't have happened - to the degree it has is highly debatable and even so ... its not a virus. You seriously going to compare markets with a virus?

really ?

 

[Stealthycat]

More evidence as to why it is extremely difficult to engage in a reasonable discussion with many modern day conservatives- they reject the truth of any news which runs contrary to preheld conditions

More evidence that modern day liberals believe anything they're fed ?

I don't have many preheld ideas on Ukraine really .... so whatever point you were hitting at fell far short

 

[Stealthycat]

If you’ve ever studied warfare, then you know that population size is almost never a factor. What matters is technology and equipment, the numbers of each side at the point of attack, generalship, a good officer corp, and the morale of the soldiers in the field.


ETA And perhaps most important of all in today’s warfare which is often asymmetrical: which side are the civilians on?

we don't know how Russian citizens feel, or Ukraine for that matter other than what we're told.

again, most everyone ranks Russia #1-3 in the world in military might .... Ukraine #20-25 right ?? can we agree Ukraine is NOT better military speaking?

but go little dog Ukraine, its a hella feel good story isn't it ?

 

[Stealthycat]

How much of the spending was outside of COVID relief though. Pretty much all countries were giving out some sort of relief (what were the other options)?

we can always justify - fact is, we are 31 trillion in debt and spending trillions ever 3 months and sending billions away to non-US citizens

and the left is saying how great it is :(

 

[sho nuff]

This narrative that inflation wouldn’t be in place if the GOP had won the last election is a wonderful fantasy land. Do they have free ice cream there too?

we don't know how it would have all went

we DO know how its went with Democrats running it - fantastically horrible

Well...we know how it was looking when they took over...and it was bad then too. We know that the spending prior to Biden was also high...and rates were kept artificially low. We know awful trade wars were started and tariffs put in place that have hurt us (that biden aboslutely should repeal those tariffs)
That is not to say Biden has not added to it...but its extremely short sighted to just claim its all a disaster because of him...as it does not appear there were plans to lower spending had Trump won either.

How much of the spending was outside of COVID relief though. Pretty much all countries were giving out some sort of relief (what were the other options)?

Id have to look back. But nommatter what it was for…it was still spent. Thus more cash into the system…thus a part of inflation.

What is worse - COVID relief for all or making good on campaign promises to entitled collegians when inflation is an issue?

Worse in terms of what? I don’t support the student loan forgiveness. But I don’t think inflation cares what the spending is for.