The Magic Age of 25 (1 Viewer)

[tombonneau]

So this is something I've know for awhile, and it's an interesting fact but I think it can be used to your advantage in fantasy football: basically the Prefrontal Cortex is responsible for all of our decision-making and it doesn't fully mature until the age of 25 in males.

Maturation of the Prefrontal Cortex

The prefrontal cortex, the part of the frontal lobes lying just behind the forehead, is often referred to as the “CEO of the brain.” This brain region is responsible for cognitive analysis and abstract thought, and the moderation of “correct” behavior in social situations. The prefrontal cortex takes in information from all of the senses and orchestrates thoughts and actions to achieve specific goals.1,2

The prefrontal cortex is one of the last regions of the brain to reach maturation. This delay may help to explain why some adolescents act the way they do. The so-called “executive functions” of the human prefrontal cortex include:

[*]Focusing attention

[*]Organizing thoughts and problem solving

[*]Foreseeing and weighing possible consequences of behavior

[*]Considering the future and making predictions

[*]Forming strategies and planning

[*]Ability to balance short-term rewards with long term goals

[*]Shifting/adjusting behavior when situations change

[*]Impulse control and delaying gratification

[*]Modulation of intense emotions

[*]Inhibiting inappropriate behavior and initiating appropriate behavior

[*]Simultaneously considering multiple streams of information when faced with complex and challenging information

This brain region gives an individual the capacity to exercise “good judgment” when presented with difficult life situations. Brain research indicating that brain development is not complete until near the age of 25, refers specifically to the development of the prefrontal cortex.

Source: http://www.hhs.gov/opa/familylife/tech_assistance/etraining/adolescent_brain/Development/prefrontal_cortex/So how can this apply to FF? Well, when looking at a guy like Dez Bryant, I was trying to determine whether or not his maturity issues have been resolved so I decided to look to see how old he is: still 23, turns 24 in November.

To me, that says that he is a high risk to still do something(s) stupid in the next 1-2 years and might not be worth an investment. I'll bet that when you go back and look at NFL problem children, the ones that make it probably turn the corner somewhere around 24-26.

Just thought it would be some interesting food for thought as we head into draft weekend ...

 

[Ilov80s]

So this is something I've know for awhile, and it's an interesting fact but I think it can be used to your advantage in fantasy football: basically the Prefrontal Cortex is responsible for all of our decision-making and it doesn't fully mature until the age of 25 in males.

Maturation of the Prefrontal Cortex

The prefrontal cortex, the part of the frontal lobes lying just behind the forehead, is often referred to as the "CEO of the brain." This brain region is responsible for cognitive analysis and abstract thought, and the moderation of "correct" behavior in social situations. The prefrontal cortex takes in information from all of the senses and orchestrates thoughts and actions to achieve specific goals.1,2

The prefrontal cortex is one of the last regions of the brain to reach maturation. This delay may help to explain why some adolescents act the way they do. The so-called "executive functions" of the human prefrontal cortex include:

[*]Focusing attention

[*]Organizing thoughts and problem solving

[*]Foreseeing and weighing possible consequences of behavior

[*]Considering the future and making predictions

[*]Forming strategies and planning

[*]Ability to balance short-term rewards with long term goals

[*]Shifting/adjusting behavior when situations change

[*]Impulse control and delaying gratification

[*]Modulation of intense emotions

[*]Inhibiting inappropriate behavior and initiating appropriate behavior

[*]Simultaneously considering multiple streams of information when faced with complex and challenging information

This brain region gives an individual the capacity to exercise "good judgment" when presented with difficult life situations. Brain research indicating that brain development is not complete until near the age of 25, refers specifically to the development of the prefrontal cortex.

Source: http://www.hhs.gov/o...frontal_cortex/So how can this apply to FF? Well, when looking at a guy like Dez Bryant, I was trying to determine whether or not his maturity issues have been resolved so I decided to look to see how old he is: still 23, turns 24 in November.

To me, that says that he is a high risk to still do something(s) stupid in the next 1-2 years and might not be worth an investment. I'll bet that when you go back and look at NFL problem children, the ones that make it probably turn the corner somewhere around 24-26.

Just thought it would be some interesting food for thought as we head into draft weekend ...

What you are missing is that it this a process that happens over a long period of time. He will be 24 in November, which isn't far from the quote of, "near 25". His developmental track is very close to maturity and is the most developed it has ever been. It isn't like once he hits 25, his brain immediately makes some grand transformation to maturity.

 

[flc735]

So this is something I've know for awhile, and it's an interesting fact but I think it can be used to your advantage in fantasy football: basically the Prefrontal Cortex is responsible for all of our decision-making and it doesn't fully mature until the age of 25 in males.

Maturation of the Prefrontal Cortex

The prefrontal cortex, the part of the frontal lobes lying just behind the forehead, is often referred to as the "CEO of the brain." This brain region is responsible for cognitive analysis and abstract thought, and the moderation of "correct" behavior in social situations. The prefrontal cortex takes in information from all of the senses and orchestrates thoughts and actions to achieve specific goals.1,2

The prefrontal cortex is one of the last regions of the brain to reach maturation. This delay may help to explain why some adolescents act the way they do. The so-called "executive functions" of the human prefrontal cortex include:

[*]Focusing attention

[*]Organizing thoughts and problem solving

[*]Foreseeing and weighing possible consequences of behavior

[*]Considering the future and making predictions

[*]Forming strategies and planning

[*]Ability to balance short-term rewards with long term goals

[*]Shifting/adjusting behavior when situations change

[*]Impulse control and delaying gratification

[*]Modulation of intense emotions

[*]Inhibiting inappropriate behavior and initiating appropriate behavior

[*]Simultaneously considering multiple streams of information when faced with complex and challenging information

This brain region gives an individual the capacity to exercise "good judgment" when presented with difficult life situations. Brain research indicating that brain development is not complete until near the age of 25, refers specifically to the development of the prefrontal cortex.

Source: http://www.hhs.gov/o...frontal_cortex/So how can this apply to FF? Well, when looking at a guy like Dez Bryant, I was trying to determine whether or not his maturity issues have been resolved so I decided to look to see how old he is: still 23, turns 24 in November.

To me, that says that he is a high risk to still do something(s) stupid in the next 1-2 years and might not be worth an investment. I'll bet that when you go back and look at NFL problem children, the ones that make it probably turn the corner somewhere around 24-26.

Just thought it would be some interesting food for thought as we head into draft weekend ...

What you are missing is that it this a process that happens over a long period of time. He will be 24 in November, which isn't far from the quote of, "near 25". His developmental track is very close to maturity and is the most developed it has ever been. It isn't like once he hits 25, his brain immediately makes some grand transformation to maturity.

it's not like there is a switch that flips on your 25th birthday

 

[matttyl]

Yeah, my switch didn't flip till I was about 27.....

 

[tombonneau]

Right, obviously it's not some line of demarcation where magically a switch is flipped, but given he's still 23 and just recently as almost arrested for assaulting his mother, he doesn't strike me as a candidate to reach maturity sometime before Christmas.

Contrast this with a guy like Pacman Jones who had an extensive blotter with a last entry of January 2008 (strip club assault) at the age of 24 and has been fairly well-behaved since.

Again, it's not some magic rule but I just think given Dez is still only 23 I would hazard he is not mature enough at this point to follow the new set of rules set out for him. I would wager next year is the year he gets his #### together.

 

[Ilov80s]

Right, obviously it's not some line of demarcation where magically a switch is flipped, but given he's still 23 and just recently as almost arrested for assaulting his mother, he doesn't strike me as a candidate to reach maturity sometime before Christmas.Contrast this with a guy like Pacman Jones who had an extensive blotter with a last entry of January 2008 (strip club assault) at the age of 24 and has been fairly well-behaved since. Again, it's not some magic rule but I just think given Dez is still only 23 I would hazard he is not mature enough at this point to follow the new set of rules set out for him. I would wager next year is the year he gets his #### together.

He is about 23.75. Also, the study said, "near 25". I agree, he is obviously extra immature. I am more concerned about Dez screwing up because of his personal history than any age marker.

 

[tombonneau]

Right, obviously it's not some line of demarcation where magically a switch is flipped, but given he's still 23 and just recently as almost arrested for assaulting his mother, he doesn't strike me as a candidate to reach maturity sometime before Christmas.Contrast this with a guy like Pacman Jones who had an extensive blotter with a last entry of January 2008 (strip club assault) at the age of 24 and has been fairly well-behaved since. Again, it's not some magic rule but I just think given Dez is still only 23 I would hazard he is not mature enough at this point to follow the new set of rules set out for him. I would wager next year is the year he gets his #### together.

He is about 23.75. Also, the study said, "near 25". I agree, he is obviously extra immature. I am more concerned about Dez screwing up because of his personal history than any age marker.

Well you know on average it's close to 25 as that's what car insurance/rental actuaries use. Follow the money. Again, it's just interesting food for thought and is easier to apply to questionable guys coming out of college - this probably would have been more germane to post when Dez came out of a college as a better indicator that more trouble lies ahead - as well as troubled guys who tend to mature into their late 20s early 30s like Moss, TO, Dillon, those types, but then that's just more "Duh, people grow up."

 

[Shutout]

So, what you're saying is there are a lot of 22 year olds posting in these forums the last few weeks?

Seriously, its good info and has a place but at the same time, I think when you are looking at a young guy in the NFL, there are a lot of other factors going. This isn't to characterize or pigeonhole a player in general, but sometimes things like their economic backgrounds, how much they were coddled in different schools, and things like that go a really long way too.

For example, maybe a guy like Dez displayed his talent at a very young age. So he was basically taken care of and treated with kid gloves all the way through. He went to a big time school and got the preferred treatment there. And so on and so on.

Then let's say you have a kid who is the same age as Dez when he came into the league and he had a harder time coming up, had responsibility forced on him earlier, wasn't treated with kid gloves. And a guy like that appears very professional and mature right away.

Look at a guy like Patrick willis and what he had accomplished and how he handled his business when he was 22 and 23 versus a guy like Dez. Sometimes, its ALL that other life stuff that creates what you end up with and because of that, soem people would say that since it took a long time to develop you into what you are, you aren't likely to change anytime soon.

I think it would be interesting to use your information and apply it to the guys that HAVE already had big "Ok, i got it" turn arounds and look at how old they were when they got straight. Guys like Cris carter. How old was he when he turned it around?

 

[tombonneau]

I think it would be interesting to use your information and apply it to the guys that HAVE already had big "Ok, i got it" turn arounds and look at how old they were when they got straight. Guys like Cris carter. How old was he when he turned it around?

He signed with the Viking in 1990 and turned his career around. At the age of 25.

 

[Sweet Love]

What I find interesting is that I have gone downhill since age 25...not a joke.

 

[tombonneau]

What I find interesting is that I have gone downhill since age 25...not a joke.

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Benjamin-Button.jpg

 

[Sweet Love]

What I find interesting is that I have gone downhill since age 25...not a joke.

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Benjamin-Button.jpg

Dude, you trying to post a pic of yourself, all ripped, and show me up???

 

[McGarnicle]

So this is something I've know for awhile, and it's an interesting fact but I think it can be used to your advantage in fantasy football: basically the Prefrontal Cortex is responsible for all of our decision-making and it doesn't fully mature until the age of 25 in males.

I thought you were going to suggest joining leagues with dudes in their late teens and early 20s and offer them lopsided trades.

 

[rickyg]

Actually if you look at dez' first 2 years in the league and you take into account that this is his 3rd year, which is abywar that wrs typically break out and show what they are really about, the departure of Robinson, the injuries to Witten and Austin and the stars are lining up for dez to break out in a HUGE way this year providing he stays healthy and out of trouble. He has been going aroun the 5th round in drafts the year, an adp which he has a huge opportunity to outperform.

He is saying and doing all the rt things now.

I just have a feeling about him I think he is going to have a monster year this year. I'm targeting him in my dynasty league as well

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Regardless of what people are saying, interesting bit of info.

Obviously its not an exact science but I think there is definitely something to this...