The most potential as a fantasy QB THIS year (1 Viewer)

[azcards33]

I wanted to see who you guys thought could come in and produce immediately as their team's starting QB. Here are the guys i'd like to hear your opinions on....

Jason Campbell

Aaron Rodgers

Jay Cutler

Matt Leinart

Andrew Walter

Matt Cassel

also, if there's anyone else you'd like to throw into the mix please go ahead and do so

 

[gman8343]

Matt Schaub

 

[azcards33]

Matt Schaub

While I think that Schaub would be a great fantasy option if Vick went down, this thread was designed for younger players (1st and 2nd year), where as Schuab has been on the Falcons for alot longer now

 

[Portis 26]

Jim Sorgi didn't look bad in relief of Manning last year.

 

[gman8343]

Matt Schaub

While I think that Schaub would be a great fantasy option if Vick went down, this thread was designed for younger players (1st and 2nd year), where as Schuab has been on the Falcons for alot longer now

didn't really see that mentioned anywhere? But of the ones you listed, I like Andrew Walter's potential the most, though no one seems to be sure if he's good enough just yet.

 

[Jackal King]

I think Walter could flourish if given the chance. Very good offensive cast paired with a defense that is going to force the Raiders to throw a lot.

 

[sholditch]

I think Campbell could be something, but I'm a little hesitant to say he definitely will be because he might never be MENTALLY prepared for the NFL. Most of the time in college, except for his senior year, he looked lost on the field. I expect that to repeat itself at the NFL level.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Alex Smith

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Jason Campbell has Santana Moss and Chris Cooley to throw to as proven commodities. Lloyd makes it interesting. Portis keeps the opposing D honest. He's a first round pick. He has "fair" running ability.

The Redskins have had a top 3-5 D the last two years. Their HC has had teams in the past with two-three WRs going over 1,000 yards. The OC has a proven track record with the Chiefs.

As far who has the best chance of being at least servicable this year if the starting QB went down in week 1, it's Campbell by a wide margain.

Leinart & Cutler as rookies have virtually no chance. AR's team is in shambles.

I'd list Walter as the #2.

Tom Brady aside, the prospect of a 7th round QB is not exactly a good one. So no to Cassel as well.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Leinart and it's not close.

 

[Crazy8s]

I like P. Rivers(3rd yr)....we'll see this year.

 

[MLBrandow]

Charlie Frye should put up respectable QB2 numbers.

Walter should be starting by week 10, and we'll see Cutler if Denver is out of the playoff race, possibly for the last game of the season.

Campbell will start for the Redskins next year, but that doesn't help this season.

I'd vote Leinart, but he's a pretty obvious choice.

 

[gocats]

Leinart and it's not close.

 

[Chaka]

This season I think Jason Campbell has the most potential this season but I am not sure he will have the opportunity play.

With Arizona's weapons outside Leinart is the best long term prospect, and I also think he is the most likely to see the field this season where he could put up modest QB2 numbers. Polished or not he is still a rookie.

 

[gman8343]

Leinart and it's not close.

How often does a rookie QB come in and produce great fantasy numbers?

 

[Chase Stuart]

Leinart and it's not close.

How often does a rookie QB come in and produce great fantasy numbers?

Well the closest comparison to Fitzgerald and Boldin would be Moss and Carter. And Daunte Culpepper did phenomenally his first year starting. It was his second year in the NFL, but this could have been Matt Leinart's second year in the NFL too. And personally, I think he's probably a better QB for playing in 12 pressure packed games in front of national audiences and playing well, then sitting on the bench and not getting nearly as many reps.How many rookie QBs have had a HOF RB and two of the best WRs in the league at their disposal?

 

[Spartans Rule]

Leinart and it's not close.

How often does a rookie QB come in and produce great fantasy numbers?

How often does a rookie QB come in and play with Fitz, Boldin and Edge?Leinart wouldn't have to play especially well to produce good fantasy numbers on that team.

 

[gman8343]

Leinart and it's not close.

How often does a rookie QB come in and produce great fantasy numbers?

How often does a rookie QB come in and play with Fitz, Boldin and Edge?Leinart wouldn't have to play especially well to produce good fantasy numbers on that team.

I guess, it just seems strange that people are saying it's not even close, when historically nearly every single rookie QB has struggled substantially their first year. Also Zona's O line isn't very dominant - despte his great weapons, I have a hard time believing he's the best choice to produce this season.

 

[Tau837]

Leinart and it's not close.

How often does a rookie QB come in and produce great fantasy numbers?

Well the closest comparison to Fitzgerald and Boldin would be Moss and Carter. And Daunte Culpepper did phenomenally his first year starting. It was his second year in the NFL, but this could have been Matt Leinart's second year in the NFL too. And personally, I think he's probably a better QB for playing in 12 pressure packed games in front of national audiences and playing well, then sitting on the bench and not getting nearly as many reps.How many rookie QBs have had a HOF RB and two of the best WRs in the league at their disposal?

LOL at the bolded statement. He's a rookie. What he could have been is irrelevant.As for your last question, Roethlisberger had Bettis (HOF RB) and two of the best WRs in the league (Ward, Burress) at his disposal. He finished as QB21. Before you go there, I agree that the Cards' trio is better than the Steelers' was.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Leinart and it's not close.

How often does a rookie QB come in and produce great fantasy numbers?

Well the closest comparison to Fitzgerald and Boldin would be Moss and Carter. And Daunte Culpepper did phenomenally his first year starting. It was his second year in the NFL, but this could have been Matt Leinart's second year in the NFL too. And personally, I think he's probably a better QB for playing in 12 pressure packed games in front of national audiences and playing well, then sitting on the bench and not getting nearly as many reps.How many rookie QBs have had a HOF RB and two of the best WRs in the league at their disposal?

LOL at the bolded statement. He's a rookie. What he could have been is irrelevant.As for your last question, Roethlisberger had Bettis (HOF RB) and two of the best WRs in the league (Ward, Burress) at his disposal. He finished as QB21. Before you go there, I agree that the Cards' trio is better than the Steelers' was.

The point was that Leinart might not be your typical rookie. He's got a tremendous amount of experience. Culpepper was 23 years old when he started his first NFL game. Leinart will be 23 years old when he starts his first NFL game. Culpepper was the number 1 FF player. I'm not saying Leinart will be anywhere near that, but in terms of which QB has the most potential to be a stud this season, it's Leinart in a blowout.And Plaxico Burress was not one of the best WRs in the league. Further, if the '04 Steelers had the '06 Cardinals defense, I think Roethlisberger could have ranked in the top 10 for sure. Roethilsberger's not a fair comparison though, because he didn't even have anywhere near the exposure Leinart has had.

 

[Spartans Rule]

Leinart and it's not close.

How often does a rookie QB come in and produce great fantasy numbers?

How often does a rookie QB come in and play with Fitz, Boldin and Edge?Leinart wouldn't have to play especially well to produce good fantasy numbers on that team.

I guess, it just seems strange that people are saying it's not even close, when historically nearly every single rookie QB has struggled substantially their first year. Also Zona's O line isn't very dominant - despte his great weapons, I have a hard time believing he's the best choice to produce this season.

Though I like Leinart #1, I do think it's close. Walter has a big arm and Randy Moss, which is an exciting combo. And the Raiders showed some confidence in him by adding only a stopgap QB in Brooks this offseason.

 

[Donnybrook]

Interesting column more or less on the topic from PFW: http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Comme...danyluk2104.htm

 

[rzrback77]

Leinart and it's not close.

How often does a rookie QB come in and produce great fantasy numbers?

Well the closest comparison to Fitzgerald and Boldin would be Moss and Carter. And Daunte Culpepper did phenomenally his first year starting. It was his second year in the NFL, but this could have been Matt Leinart's second year in the NFL too. And personally, I think he's probably a better QB for playing in 12 pressure packed games in front of national audiences and playing well, then sitting on the bench and not getting nearly as many reps.How many rookie QBs have had a HOF RB and two of the best WRs in the league at their disposal?

LOL at the bolded statement. He's a rookie. What he could have been is irrelevant.As for your last question, Roethlisberger had Bettis (HOF RB) and two of the best WRs in the league (Ward, Burress) at his disposal. He finished as QB21. Before you go there, I agree that the Cards' trio is better than the Steelers' was.

LOL even more at your comparison of Arzona and Pittsburg offensive philosophies. I think the Cards will pass a little more often than the Steelers.

 

[Tau837]

Leinart and it's not close.

How often does a rookie QB come in and produce great fantasy numbers?

Well the closest comparison to Fitzgerald and Boldin would be Moss and Carter. And Daunte Culpepper did phenomenally his first year starting. It was his second year in the NFL, but this could have been Matt Leinart's second year in the NFL too. And personally, I think he's probably a better QB for playing in 12 pressure packed games in front of national audiences and playing well, then sitting on the bench and not getting nearly as many reps.How many rookie QBs have had a HOF RB and two of the best WRs in the league at their disposal?

LOL at the bolded statement. He's a rookie. What he could have been is irrelevant.As for your last question, Roethlisberger had Bettis (HOF RB) and two of the best WRs in the league (Ward, Burress) at his disposal. He finished as QB21. Before you go there, I agree that the Cards' trio is better than the Steelers' was.

LOL even more at your comparison of Arzona and Pittsburg offensive philosophies. I think the Cards will pass a little more often than the Steelers.

I don't disagree. I merely answered his question with the only group I could think of, and even admitted that the Cardinals' group that will support Leinart is better.

 

[Tau837]

Leinart and it's not close.

How often does a rookie QB come in and produce great fantasy numbers?

Well the closest comparison to Fitzgerald and Boldin would be Moss and Carter. And Daunte Culpepper did phenomenally his first year starting. It was his second year in the NFL, but this could have been Matt Leinart's second year in the NFL too. And personally, I think he's probably a better QB for playing in 12 pressure packed games in front of national audiences and playing well, then sitting on the bench and not getting nearly as many reps.How many rookie QBs have had a HOF RB and two of the best WRs in the league at their disposal?

LOL at the bolded statement. He's a rookie. What he could have been is irrelevant.As for your last question, Roethlisberger had Bettis (HOF RB) and two of the best WRs in the league (Ward, Burress) at his disposal. He finished as QB21. Before you go there, I agree that the Cards' trio is better than the Steelers' was.

The point was that Leinart might not be your typical rookie. He's got a tremendous amount of experience. Culpepper was 23 years old when he started his first NFL game. Leinart will be 23 years old when he starts his first NFL game. Culpepper was the number 1 FF player. I'm not saying Leinart will be anywhere near that, but in terms of which QB has the most potential to be a stud this season, it's Leinart in a blowout.And Plaxico Burress was not one of the best WRs in the league. Further, if the '04 Steelers had the '06 Cardinals defense, I think Roethlisberger could have ranked in the top 10 for sure. Roethilsberger's not a fair comparison though, because he didn't even have anywhere near the exposure Leinart has had.

Honestly, I could easily see him being the second coming of Chris Weinke. Weinke was 21-1 as a starter in college, including 1-1 in national championship games, and won a Heisman.Or how about Ken Dorsey? Dorsey was 38-2 as a starter, compared to Leinart's 37-2. He was a Heisman finalist and won one national championship.

Neither of those guys was quite as good as Leinart in college, and Leinart enters a much better situation than Weinke and Dorsey did, and he certainly earned his higher draft grade. But I am not sold on him becoming a great NFL QB. I think he'll be good in time, but probably not his first season. But great? I doubt it.

One thing I know for sure--I'd rather not have to rely on him on my fantasy teams this year. If Warner went down, I'd rather have at least 20 other QBs.

Side note--surprised not to even see Vince Young's name mentioned. If we're basically comparing the names in the first post here in the event that they take over the starting job this year, you can't overlook the likely 5+ fantasy points Young will get on the ground every game (in most scoring systems). That's a good base to start from in a comparison with the others.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Interesting column more or less on the topic from PFW: http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Comme...danyluk2104.htm

Great article thanks for posting it.

 

[Hawk]

Side note--surprised not to even see Vince Young's name mentioned. If we're basically comparing the names in the first post here in the event that they take over the starting job this year, you can't overlook the likely 5+ fantasy points Young will get on the ground every game (in most scoring systems). That's a good base to start from in a comparison with the others.

Thank you. How can this thread go that long without a mention of Vince Young (I can't believe he wasn't at least on the original list)? All 1st and 2nd year QB's are likely to struggle, but if Young is the starter, he will get a lot of points (in most scoring systems) that those other guys won't by running for at least 50-60 yards a game and by getting a handful of rushing TD's. He also likes to throw to the TE and Tenn has one of the best groups of TE's in the NFL.

Not saying he'll be a stud, but from a strictly fantasy perspective, the odds of Young scoring decently as a starter this season are better than most of the guys on the list (except maybe Leinart because of the superior skill players around him) due to Young's running ability.

 

[Norseman]

Tom Brady aside, the prospect of a 7th round QB is not exactly a good one. So no to Cassel as well.

Yea, everybody knows that you have to be taken by the sixth round if you want to be Super Bowl MVP.

I would think that New Englands track record for late round QB's would make you want to take a chance on someone that they like. If Brady would go down, he probably has a better chance to succeed than all the other qb's listed.

 

[Chaka]

Tom Brady aside, the prospect of a 7th round QB is not exactly a good one. So no to Cassel as well.

Yea, everybody knows that you have to be taken by the sixth round if you want to be Super Bowl MVP.

I would think that New Englands track record for late round QB's would make you want to take a chance on someone that they like. If Brady would go down, he probably has a better chance to succeed than all the other qb's listed.

Rohan Davey & Michael Bishop down?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Tom Brady aside, the prospect of a 7th round QB is not exactly a good one. So no to Cassel as well.

Yea, everybody knows that you have to be taken by the sixth round if you want to be Super Bowl MVP.

I would think that New Englands track record for late round QB's would make you want to take a chance on someone that they like. If Brady would go down, he probably has a better chance to succeed than all the other qb's listed.

Other than exception to the rule Tom Brady, what track record does New England have for late round QBs?

 

[gman8343]

I would think that New Englands track record for late round QB's would make you want to take a chance on someone that they like. If Brady would go down, he probably has a better chance to succeed than all the other qb's listed.

Seriously?

 

[Chase Stuart]

Tom Brady aside, the prospect of a 7th round QB is not exactly a good one. So no to Cassel as well.

Yea, everybody knows that you have to be taken by the sixth round if you want to be Super Bowl MVP.

I would think that New Englands track record for late round QB's would make you want to take a chance on someone that they like. If Brady would go down, he probably has a better chance to succeed than all the other qb's listed.

The same New England franchise that valued Tom Brady so highly that they used their first sixth round pick on Antwan Harris? And their fifth round pick on Jeff Marriott, who as far as I can tell never played a down in the NFL?

 

[Norseman]

Tom Brady aside, the prospect of a 7th round QB is not exactly a good one.  So no to Cassel as well.

Yea, everybody knows that you have to be taken by the sixth round if you want to be Super Bowl MVP.

I would think that New Englands track record for late round QB's would make you want to take a chance on someone that they like. If Brady would go down, he probably has a better chance to succeed than all the other qb's listed.

The same New England franchise that valued Tom Brady so highly that they used their first sixth round pick on Antwan Harris? And their fifth round pick on Jeff Marriott, who as far as I can tell never played a down in the NFL?

What do a DB and a DT have to do with their choice of a late round qb. Alot of 5th and 6th round picks have little or no NFL career.And in hindsight, Brady wouldn't have lasted that long if everybody knew how he would have turned out.

 

[-OZ-]

Dan Orlovsky

 

[Norseman]

I would think that New Englands track record for late round QB's would make you want to take a chance on someone that they like. If Brady would go down, he probably has a better chance to succeed than all the other qb's listed.

Seriously?

Short term (which this thread is about), yes. I wouldn't want a rookie qb on my fantasy team. That eliminated Cutler and Leinart. If Favre goes down, Green Bay is a . No Aaron Rodgers for me. Campbell and Walter would be close to Cassel for me, but I would pick Cassel because of the system.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Tom Brady aside, the prospect of a 7th round QB is not exactly a good one. So no to Cassel as well.

Yea, everybody knows that you have to be taken by the sixth round if you want to be Super Bowl MVP.

I would think that New Englands track record for late round QB's would make you want to take a chance on someone that they like. If Brady would go down, he probably has a better chance to succeed than all the other qb's listed.

The same New England franchise that valued Tom Brady so highly that they used their first sixth round pick on Antwan Harris? And their fifth round pick on Jeff Marriott, who as far as I can tell never played a down in the NFL?

What do a DB and a DT have to do with their choice of a late round qb. Alot of 5th and 6th round picks have little or no NFL career.And in hindsight, Brady wouldn't have lasted that long if everybody knew how he would have turned out.

If the Patriots were so good at scouting late round QBs, they would have known Brady was going to be as good as he turned out. If they had any idea he could become something like this I'm pretty sure they would have passed on Marriott.They got lucky on Brady. Doesn't mean that we should expect them to get lucky on Cassell.