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Roger Clemens reincarnation.
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Insoxicated
The obvious answer here is Stern. The guy's bat has been on fire this spring and by all accounts he's a solid option (though not on Coco's level) defensively in center. Factor in that he's the fastest guy on the team and I'm not too concerned about a big dropoff there. Certainly they're not equivalent but Stern should look good out there. I personally don't think Wily Mo has made enough headway with his patience at the plate to be considered an everyday option at this point... but we'll see.
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bialczabub
Lord of the Flies
Willy Mo is a young Red Sox that frightens me. He good.
Borat
Footballguy
The Sox had planned to send Stern down as soon as he was elligible (without getting plucked off waivers) so he could be an everyday player and get some at-bats. I suppose that plan may have changed with Coco's injury (although I hadn't heard that he broke a bone in his hand; I heard he just jammed his fingers).
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It definitely wouldn't be the best OF in the league defensively... though Manny has shown to be much improved this year in Left. He apparently worked on his leatherwork in the offseason. It's always an adventure with him out there but he did lead all MLB outffielders in throw-outs last year. Some of this has to do with people (mistakenly) trying to run on him because of his defensive rep. He's no Jim Edmonds, but I'll take him out there.What trot lacks in overall speed he makes up for with hustle. He's a career .983 F% guy... not too shabby. Is he a gritty looking dirt dog? Yes. Can he play right? Yes.
That said.. Wily Mo will certianly complete the puzzle of OFs with certain issues... Stern is a speed demon with a above average glove... I hope Tito is smart enough to see that.
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Insoxicated
he's good but has very polarized splits at the plate and I'm not sure he's good enough with the glove to anchor our OF in Center. He needs some seasoning to improve his batting eye and platooning is IMHO the best way to work him in. He's got the potential to be a monster though... no doubt.
RedRaiders
Mr. +EV
Is Crisp's broken finger confirmed? Rototimes is saying "unsure" at this point. gdb missing the lineup submission for this week 
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
I heard he could be out 6-8 weeks on the radio this morning.Is Crisp's broken finger confirmed? Rototimes is saying "unsure" at this point. gdb missing the lineup submission for this week
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All but confirmedWaiting on 2nd opinion but I'd definitley not play him this week.Is Crisp's broken finger confirmed? Rototimes is saying "unsure" at this point. gdb missing the lineup submission for this week
RedRaiders
Mr. +EV
thanks JTC. Voicemail to change lineup left. He's a strong source of stolen bases for me too.I heard he could be out 6-8 weeks on the radio this morning.Is Crisp's broken finger confirmed? Rototimes is saying "unsure" at this point. gdb missing the lineup submission for this week
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
1-2-3 Papelbon.
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bialczabub
Lord of the Flies
I'm surprised the Sox would lock up Crisp through 2010.
doctor Gunks
Footballguy
He's average?
bialczabub
Lord of the Flies
They're reluctant to extend long term deals to a whole bunch of guys, and after he's played a whopping 5 or so games for the Sox, they sign up a guy with his stats for 3 more years with an option for a 4th?Crisp might end up being really, really good, but similar batters at 25 are:
Dom DiMaggio
Steve Garvey
Lou Brock
Roy Weatherly
Amos Otis
Garret Anderson
Tito Francona
Don Mueller
Lenny Dykstra
Ron Northey
and I think it's obvious that he's no Lou Brock. There's some great players on that list, but it is a bit hit or miss.
They're locking him in for his peak power years is all I can think of, but it's a bigger risk than I'm used to seeing the Sox make.
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bialczabub
Lord of the Flies
Sure but this is the team with the second highest salary in baseball that let Pedro Martinez, Johnny Damon, Bill Mueller, and Orlando Cabrera all go pretty easily.
The big difference is age, and while I understand the value of youth, there is also the uncertainty of Crisp's career. He's not Eric Chavez.
The big difference is age, and while I understand the value of youth, there is also the uncertainty of Crisp's career. He's not Eric Chavez.
Borat
Footballguy
Very few people are confident in Martinez's ability to remain healthy and effective over the length of his Mets contract. That's not the case with Crisp.Johnny Damon simply wanted too much money. That's not the case with Crisp.
Bill Mueller was replaced by Mike Lowell, whose contract is much larger than Mueller's.
I will never understand why they didn't re-sign Cabrera, but they did give an even bigger contract to Renteria.
I don't think any of these situations are comparable with Crisp's.
What did you expect them to do? Just go to arbitration for the next three years in a row? No, he's not Chavez. Few are. That doesn't mean you don't sign anyone who's not a superstar.
bialczabub
Lord of the Flies
That he was eligible for arbitration for the next three years answers my question, and I believe is why he got a contract extension where so many others haven't.
doctor Gunks
Footballguy
Wells currently rocking the "sideways 8" ERA.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
You really can't compare Crisp's contract to any of those guys.It was going to cost the Sox 48 million to lock up Damon and probably 60 million to lock up Pedro.
Crisp is costing them 15.5 million. They aren't exactly pot committed if it doesn't work out and they will look like geniuses if he keeps improving.
doctor Gunks
Footballguy
What word is "####"?Good thing Arroyo was traded for a platoon OF.Maybe he'll #### and stop acting like he's doing the Sox a favor by being here....prolly not.Wells looked good tonight.
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Schilling off to first 3-0 start since 2002.
Papelbon shuts door for 5th straight save.
Sox win a close one 2-1 on the back of some great pitching.
ETA: At what point does Schilling's season move from "lucky/hot start" to "The guy is officially back"?
Papelbon shuts door for 5th straight save.
Sox win a close one 2-1 on the back of some great pitching.
ETA: At what point does Schilling's season move from "lucky/hot start" to "The guy is officially back"?
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bostonfred
Footballguy
S T E U?What word is "####"?Good thing Arroyo was traded for a platoon OF.Maybe he'll #### and stop acting like he's doing the Sox a favor by being here....prolly not.Wells looked good tonight.
Michael Brown
Footballguy
It's already happened, unfortunately. I have to admit, I didn't think Schilling would turn in the year he has. But once I saw him opening day against Texas, I was sold that he was back. His start wasn't like someone along the lines of a Miguel Batista or a Kenny Rogers having a hot start - meaning Schil's was legit.He and Beckett should combine for around 35-40 wins, and Wakefield will be Wakefield.
Here's hoping Wells and Clement bring the team ERA over 5.00 by themselves!
Actually what are the chances Papelbon is moved into the rotation and Hansen closes at some point? I know you don't mess with a good thing, but if Clement/Wells are pretty much losses every fifth day, how long can/will that go on you think?
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
7-3. nice start. i think the pitching will be a surprising strong point for us as long as boomer gets his #### somewhat straight.
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Wells and Clement sure are trying so far aren't theyIt's already happened, unfortunately. I have to admit, I didn't think Schilling would turn in the year he has. But once I saw him opening day against Texas, I was sold that he was back. His start wasn't like someone along the lines of a Miguel Batista or a Kenny Rogers having a hot start - meaning Schil's was legit.He and Beckett should combine for around 35-40 wins, and Wakefield will be Wakefield.
Here's hoping Wells and Clement bring the team ERA over 5.00 by themselves!
Actually what are the chances Papelbon is moved into the rotation and Hansen closes at some point? I know you don't mess with a good thing, but if Clement/Wells are pretty much losses every fifth day, how long can/will that go on you think?
The biggest problem with Wells is he's paid per start with nice incentives that kick in after a certain number of starts (I want to say 20 but I'm not sure)... so unfortunately he's not going to be happy about stepping down to AAA to figure out WTF is wrong with him.Hansen has stellar stuff but apparently the Sox brass doesn't think he's quite there... I've heard reports that they expect him to be ready by the break but who knows with these sort of things. I got to see the kid throw in spring training and there is no doubt that ball just flat out jumps out of his hand. I don't believe he allowed a single run in all of ST (not that that's saying much).
The fact that Wells is going on the DL and they're giving his start to Lenny DiNardo speaks volumes about Papelbon's position as a closer. This is an ideal opportunity for Paps to move into the rotation, but keeping him at the closer is basically saying he's "stuck" there until someone else can do the job.
Will be interesting to see how Beckett does in his next start... he was having trouble locating his curve early against Toronto, hence the wild first. Given his intensity level I'm curious to see how he'll handle a day when it just doesn't work, period.
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Manny's fine. IIRC he has a similar start last year. Looking at him in the box he's just needing to tweak his mechanics just a bit. If you watch him you can see him performing little drills to adjust his swing plane, etc. Sometime in the next couple of weeks he'll explode and have a .600/5HR/12RBI week and he'll be back to being "manny"
NCBoSoxFan
Footballguy
Schilling and Papelbon, Now that a great combination. I so glad to see that Schilling has regained his old form. Crisp will be back and he will show that he earned that contract extension. The one person that is doing the Red Sox nothing is David Wells. Why are they keeping him. Go ahead and give him the trade get him out of here. I hope that Foulke will return to his old form to. Hey what do you think will happen when the great defector returns. I hope the Sox crush the yanks and i hope that Tavarez buzz's Damon with a pitch. Even though the Sox did not really want him to say that he would never play for the yankees and then to put on the pinstripes. That just wrong
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Cmon dude. Wells has had exactly one start so far. Its really too early to be writing him off. He got off to a bad start last year too, in fact his first two were terrible. The guy knows how to pitch, I bet he comes around.
